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HTC Pyramid next Nexus device?

http://briefmobile.com/htc-pyramid-renders-leaked-next-nexus-device
What do you guys think?

What do I think? I think that will be my next phone. Especially if it's Vanilla.

It looks like a hot device & possible upgrade from the N1 someday! Here's the main thread discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939909

No trackball
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Only 768 MB of Ram? Single Core 1.2 GHz?
That's a good upgrade, but not worth all the money for not much of a technology leap.
Maybe if it had 1 GB Ram and a dual core/quad core 1+ GHz processor.

abccg said:
Only 768 MB of Ram? Single Core 1.2 GHz?
That's a good upgrade, but not worth all the money for not much of a technology leap.
Maybe if it had 1 GB Ram and a dual core/quad core 1+ GHz processor.
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Some sites are reporting dual 1.2GHz processors but at this point it's probably just speculation.

If its a dual core, its mine

My money is on the next Nexus device being made by Motorola.

I hope it's not a pentile display like the Atrix.

I really hope that image is a mock up. It's basically an extended nexus minus the trackball.
it looks nice, but not that sexy

Hot looking phone, not worth the upgrade yet IMO.

dual core and a bigger screen ftw. (hope it's dual core)

GldRush98 said:
Hot looking phone, not worth the upgrade yet IMO.
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I would upgrade just to get a N1 with better/working touch.
That said, I prefer AMOLED.

HTC Pyramid will be first HTC's dual core phone. Looks good IMO

htc always rocks....
great devices

Everyone take a look at the back of it. We don't know if its a mock up picture or not, most likely, though I hope it will be like that when it comes to the states. But again, look at the back of your nexus one, then look at another android phone, then look at the pyramid picture. The google logo is google stand alone, which only dedicates to nexus line. Regular android phones don't have that
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No trackball and what looks like no notification lights!!!
Why are we going backwards?

gibosn6594 said:
No trackball and what looks like no notification lights!!!
Why are we going backwards?
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You might as well get used it, if my memory serves me correctly no recently released HTC Android device has a trackball. Actually, not just HTC, the trackball is almost non-existant on Android phones now.

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If its a dual core, its mine
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It's got a dual-core 1.2 (per core) Snapdragon aka Scorpion. It's the same SoC in the HP TouchPad; better than Tegra 2.
EDIT: It's way WORSE than Tegra 2..... it's a Cortex A8 device, with an underwhelming GPU
HTC Pyramid benchmarks
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...60-smartbench-2011-result-have-been-revealed/

Don't see the point of single-core, sub-1gb-RAM phones in 2011 ... seriously.
Tegra 3 is coming out in august for pads, christmas for phones. Hoping HTC makes a nice Nexus HD or something out of it for the holidays.
- Tegra 3
- 1gb DDR3
- 16-32gb internal
- micro-sd slot
- 3.7-4.0in HD screen
- no keyboard for the love of God
- same build quality as N1 (not some Dollar-store Nexus S plastic plz)
- NFC or not, don't really care since it won't be widely used until like 2014
- Some sort of LED notification area (not necessarily a trackball, but an LED which we can control the same we do now on the N1... it's MUCH NEEDED!)
- this is a personal choice, but the same button placement (BACK - MENU - HOME - SEARCH) would rock ... I know most phones now have the BACK and MENU inversed...
- Dock support would rock too (same 3-pin system, wtv...)
- Most importantly, Vanilla Android. At that point, I'm guessing it will be Ice Cream [Sandwich?] or J...jello? copyright... wtv... something J.
No use buying a single-core phone in 2011 ! stick to the N1 for now...

Quad-core or 2gb ram?

In real phone scenario what we could benefit more? Will a quad-core be faster the 2gb of ram? Or will a 2gb will perform better against quad-core?
Pocketnow did a video between the gs2 and gs3 and both were opening apps really quick, they were really close on browsing, gaming. Do you think the 2gb will make a difference on the phone compare to the international? What are your thoughts?
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2GB will help with multitasking while the faster processor will help with gaming and to a degree, faster apps.

If it were an iPhone, then the quad core would be much better because apps will actually make use of the amazing gpu. In android, I doubt there will be an app released in the next year or two that realistically benefits from the quad core's gpu vs the dual core's.
Both the dual and quad core will have all of the software optimizations Samsung has done for web browsing. The 2gb memory is probably overkill at this point, but in theory it means that apps will never close in the background since there will be no need to free up new memory.
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lepapirriky said:
In real phone scenario what we could benefit more? Will a quad-core be faster the 2gb of ram? Or will a 2gb will perform better against quad-core?
Pocketnow did a video between the gs2 and gs3 and both were opening apps really quick, they were really close on browsing, gaming. Do you think the 2gb will make a difference on the phone compare to the international? What are your thoughts?
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Here's my thoughts:
1. Still on the Epic 4G I've never had any real lag.
2. Lack of ram can stall a device, but an excess of ram will not make it faster.
3. Mobile quad-cores are new and untested.
4. Android is not designed for quad-core processors.
5. The dual-core US version should easily match the quad-core international.
6. More ram means more easily multitasking/app-switching.
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muyoso said:
If it were an iPhone, then the quad core would be much better because apps will actually make use of the amazing gpu.
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Amazing gpu? The Galaxy S I opposed the iPhone 4. The Epic 4G has a better gpu than the iPhone 4, the PowerVR SGX 540 vs the iPhone's PowerVR SGX 535. Just thought I'd mention it since you're in an Epic 4G forum.

RandomKing said:
Here's my thoughts:
1. Still on the Epic 4G I've never had any real lag.
2. Lack of ram can stall a device, but an excess of ram will not make it faster.
3. Mobile quad-cores are new and untested.
4. Android is not designed for quad-core processors.
5. The dual-core US version should easily match the quad-core international.
6. More ram means more easily multitasking/app-switching.
Check out this article.
Amazing gpu? The Galaxy S I opposed the iPhone 4. The Epic 4G has a better gpu than the iPhone 4, the PowerVR SGX 540 vs the iPhone's PowerVR SGX 535. Just thought I'd mention it since you're in an Epic 4G forum.
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1. Well the whole android cant handle 4 cores i think is false because its derived from Linux and i know those who use 4,6,8 core processor's and use Linux. so if android isn't im sure its all in code is all.
2. More Ram does mean things will run much faster. For Example: playing gta 4 with 4GB of DDR3 Ram @ 1333MHz plays decent but my pc setup that plays gta 4 with 8Gb of DDR2 Ram @ 1333MHz plays faster and loads faster but GPU does factor those speeds too so, in a sense you cant bottleneck them.

Extra RAM. It's going to be a while before the apps/software catches up with having two more cores. Meanwhile even old stuff can benefit from extra memory. Also see it as more future proof as you won't get the lame ass excuses from Samsung about it not having enough RAM to run whatever the latest release of Android is like we got with ICS and the Epic 4G.

XxLostSoulxX said:
1. Well the whole android cant handle 4 cores i think is false because its derived from Linux and i know those who use 4,6,8 core processor's and use Linux. so if android isn't im sure its all in code is all.
2. More Ram does mean things will run much faster. For Example: playing gta 4 with 4GB of DDR3 Ram @ 1333MHz plays decent but my pc setup that plays gta 4 with 8Gb of DDR2 Ram @ 1333MHz plays faster and loads faster but GPU does factor those speeds too so, in a sense you cant bottleneck them.
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You've misunderstood. Android can use 4 cores, of course. What it can't do is use them effectively in a way that creates any sort of advantage. But just as a mention, being derived from Linux source does not make it a full-fledged Linux OS by far.
And on your second point, again, you're comparing to a full PC operating system. Up until now, apps have been designed for phones with far less than 1GB of ram. It really depends on how you use your phone as to how much ram is needed. If you have a video editor running in the background, while playing pandora, and emulating Mario 64 you'll need more than simply browsing the web. But the processor, bus speeds, operating system, etc. all factor into how effectively more ram can be used. For Example: A 32 bit computer can't even use more than 4GB of ram. More ram does not simply mean 'much' more more speed, there are many other limiting factors. You can throw all the ram you want at a netbook, it will never run GTA4.
Off-Topic Edit: I vote 2GB ram over Quad-Core.

I guess then the only thing that will "improve", not that the int'l lacks of, is on the multitasking??
The few videos I saw, they were really fast but that's of course without all the apps that a normal user install. Like I have 38 apps install on my phone and most of the time I open between 9 to 13 apps everyday. Most of the time I have to close it...I guess more for the habit of doing it and of courses need it when playing games.
I read the answer and I kinda feel its true, maybe android is not yet ready for such hardware just yet, does it feels the hardware manufacture is going too fast compare to the software?
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lepapirriky said:
I guess then the only thing that will "improve", not that the int'l lacks of, is on the multitasking??
The few videos I saw, they were really fast but that's of course without all the apps that a normal user install. Like I have 38 apps install on my phone and most of the time I open between 9 to 13 apps everyday. Most of the time I have to close it...I guess more for the habit of doing it and of courses need it when playing games.
I read the answer and I kinda feel its true, maybe android is not yet ready for such hardware just yet, does it feels the hardware manufacture is going too fast compare to the software?
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There will be improvement between the dual-core, faster processor, and more ram, rest assured!
Although I still recommend closing apps unnecessarily opened to save battery.

2 A15s > 4 A9s.
Also, the A15 use less power. I'd take the 2 GBs of RAM with the newest CPU anyday.
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theking_13 said:
2 A15s > 4 A9s. Also, the A15 use less power. I'd take the 2 GBs of RAM with the newest CPU anyday.
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RandomKing said:
Here's my thoughts:
1. Still on the Epic 4G I've never had any real lag.
2. Lack of ram can stall a device, but an excess of ram will not make it faster.
3. Mobile quad-cores are new and untested.
4. Android is not designed for quad-core processors.
5. The dual-core US version should easily match the quad-core international.
6. More ram means more easily multitasking/app-switching.
Check out this article.
Amazing gpu? The Galaxy S I opposed the iPhone 4. The Epic 4G has a better gpu than the iPhone 4, the PowerVR SGX 540 vs the iPhone's PowerVR SGX 535. Just thought I'd mention it since you're in an Epic 4G forum.
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You don't have any lag on our epic 4g's? What ROM are you running? I've tried every rom out there and am friends with several other rooted epic owners, none of our phones are remotely comparable to the modern phones like s2 and above.
I'd love to see a video of you opening and running netflix, facebook, web browsing on chrome and stock, or whatever if you have time because this blows my mind. i'm doing something horribly wrong.

Too bad we don't have a samsung developed a15
I don't know why but I don't like qualcomm chips
Also whenever I hear snapdragon I automatically think worse than hummingbird
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I would take the dual core Krait hands down because it is designed from cortex a15. More instruction per clock is better than stacking cores which a phone doesn't even use. I think the 2 gb of ram has more performance advantage.
They also increased the memory bandwidth with new SOC by adding a new dual channel memory controller which the exynos had all along... They fixed alot of the shortcoming of snapdragon processor with the this gen product

gtuansdiamm said:
[...]Also whenever I hear snapdragon I automatically think worse than hummingbird[...]
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That's because Hummingbirds rape Snapdragons. See the following:
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Either way if you want LTE at the moment you are stuck with dual core. So the 2GB of RAM is a nice enhancement. The EVO 1x ended up as two models the 1X which is quad core with no LTE and the 1XL which is dual core with LTE.
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RandomKing said:
Amazing gpu? The Galaxy S I opposed the iPhone 4. The Epic 4G has a better gpu than the iPhone 4, the PowerVR SGX 540 vs the iPhone's PowerVR SGX 535. Just thought I'd mention it since you're in an Epic 4G forum.
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Where the hell did the epic4g or the iPhone 4 come into the question? My point was that iPhones actually make use of their gpu's better than android phones do, so the difference between the quad core and the dual core gs3 should be minimal in that regard, at least for a while.
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noobnl said:
I would take the dual core Krait hands down because it is designed from cortex a15.
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This is wrong.
The Krait is very much designed from the Cortex A9. While it shares similarities with the A15, it is not quite as powerful.
Krait is about 60% of the way between the A9 and A15.

jnadke said:
This is wrong.
The Krait is very much designed from the Cortex A9. While it shares similarities with the A15, it is not quite as powerful.
Krait is about 60% of the way between the A9 and A15.
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No, where'd you even get that from? Krait is slightly below an A15, Qualcomm derived their design from it. Yes, its not a true A15 core. But its the best right now in production.
Qualcomm has a license to mess around with ARMs designs and make their own CPUs, not just copy and slap an "A4" on them like Apple does.
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theking_13 said:
No, where'd you even get that from? Krait is slightly below an A15, Qualcomm derived their design from it. Yes, its not a true A15 core. But its the best right now in production.
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Interesting how someone "Likes" wrong information.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4940/qualcomm-new-snapdragon-s4-msm8960-krait-architecture
Designing a processor takes an extremely long amount of time. A15 was just barely released a few months ago. No way Krait was designed from it.
Now, Krait borrows some features from A15, but it's missing some important features as well. Krait does feature an extended instruction pipeline over the A9 (11 vs 9 cycles), but it's nowhere near as long as the A15 (15 cycles). Strictly speaking, lengthening a pipeline is less work than shortening it, hence Krait was not designed from the A15.
It's more likely Krait is an evolution of the Scorpion than anything.
As far as Apple, they have no place in this conversation, but if you must.... while they do have a "processor-only" license with ARM, they do farm out to a company to change some transistor signaling to make it more power efficient (they later bought them).
2 years ago, Apple bought Freescale, the only remaining PowerPC processor design company. (aside: The defense industry was largely concerned, as they rely on PowerPC for their power-efficient but high-speed applications). Anyhow, I wouldn't be surprised if they have an architecture license now so they can design their own ARM processors, Qualcomm-style. The main advantage would be integrating LTE radios like Qualcomm does.
Coincidentally it takes about 2 years to fully design a processor.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6022/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-review-att-and-tmobile-usa-va

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6022/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-review-att-and-tmobile-usa-variants What do you think?

Ram is good, if that is what you are specifically asking. However i was disappointed by the battery tests like web surfing, wifi, standby, hotspot etc. With huge 2100 mah, it still falls behind likes of one x and one s which have smaller batteries. Why? Super amoled?

rakeshchn said:
Ram is good, if that is what you are specifically asking. However i was disappointed by the battery tests like web surfing, wifi, standby, hotspot etc. With huge 2100 mah, it still falls behind likes of one x and one s which have smaller batteries. Why? Super amoled?
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No just in general the whole review
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I would still rather have the Quad-Exynos just for the heck of having Quads

Ace42 said:
I would still rather have the Quad-Exynos just for the heck of having Quads
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I'm waiting for the SGS3 also, but I have the Quad core HTC 1X right now too, I hardly do anything that stresses the phone enough to really use the 4 cores much,. I'd rather have the 2gigs of ram (which is why I'm getting the SGS3 also). Iin single or dual thread tests the S4 (a15 based) dual cpu out performed the a9 based tegra3 in alot of the tests. the exynos (a9 based) is also a a 32nm design compared to the 28nm of the S4, which makes it (S4) more efficient. True that's less than the differentiation between the S4 and the Tegra3, but still worth mentioning.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27706783&postcount=1025
Link is to a post by kernel dev Faux123, speaking of S4 =/ Tegra3 in other words A15(ie S4 CPU) cores to A9(ie Exynos/Tegra3 CPU) cores. Skip the parts where he's talking about the coding and understand the parts in which he's speaking about the ARM instruction sets.

Next Nexus?

I realize no ones gotten a retail unit yet but how does everyone feel about the phone not having a truly next gen chip? Cortex A15 would've been boss battery wise. Chime in
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nexom said:
I realize no ones gotten a retail unit yet but how does everyone feel about the phone not having a truly next gen chip? Cortex A15 would've been boss battery wise. Chime in
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It is based on A15,
http://androidheadlines.com/2012/09...pro-is-the-best-chip-out-there-heres-why.html
The Snapdragon S4 Pro from Qualcomm is coming to market with power in all the right places, for one, it’s running 4 cores at 1.5Ghz and when these cores are Cortex-A15 cores then you know this thing is going to be crazy fast.
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chrisjcks said:
It is based on A15,
http://androidheadlines.com/2012/09...pro-is-the-best-chip-out-there-heres-why.html
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That website is false. S4 pro's are based on Krait processors which merely have some architectural similarities to the A15.
Kraits are much better than A9's butThe A15 pretty much blows the Kraits to smithereens.
Having said that - and putting aside heat/throttling issues - The Quad Krait + Adreno 320 combo is quite a bit better than anything out there, enough to be termed "next gen" IMO.

omersak said:
That website is false. S4 pro's are based on Krait processors which merely have some architectural similarities to the A15.
Kraits are much better than A9's butThe A15 pretty much blows the Kraits to smithereens.
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Its still based off a15, they have just adapted it.
Just likes apples dual core A6 processor, its a15 but adapted by apple to their needs.
So whilst they ain't true a15 based processors, both the s4pro and A6 are still based on
A15 architecture. (but adapted......)
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chrisjcks said:
Its still based off a15, they have just adapted it.
Just likes apples dual core A6 processor, its a15 but adapted by apple to their needs.
So whilst they ain't true a15 based processors, both the s4pro and A6 are still based on
A15 architecture. (but adapted......)
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No
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I'd rather they work on heat and batteries before SoC's...

omersak said:
That website is false. S4 pro's are based on Krait processors which merely have some architectural similarities to the A15.
Kraits are much better than A9's butThe A15 pretty much blows the Kraits to smithereens.
Having said that - and putting aside heat/throttling issues - The Quad Krait + Adreno 320 combo is quite a bit better than anything out there, enough to be termed "next gen" IMO.
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chrisjcks said:
Its still based off a15, they have just adapted it.
Just likes apples dual core A6 processor, its a15 but adapted by apple to their needs.
So whilst they ain't true a15 based processors, both the s4pro and A6 are still based on
A15 architecture. (but adapted......)
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A better way to look at it is that the Krait (S4 Pro) and Cortex-A15 processors are both based on the same architecture, which is ARMv7. Neither one is anything completely new, since many of the latest SoC's have built around ARMv7, but neither one has made the next step up to v8.
In general I would say that the Cortex series are better than the S series spec-wise. For example, Krait has an smaller pipeline (11 vs 15) and half the cache of the A15 (16kB + 16 kB L1, 2mB L2 vs 32 kB + 32 kB L1, 4 mB L2), but a larger pipeline and cache don't always make something better.
I think its fair to say that the Krait is like A15's little brother. Maybe not as powerful, but from the same powerful family.

Ryukeima said:
A better way to look at it is that the Krait (S4 Pro) and Cortex-A15 processors are both based on the same architecture, which is ARMv7. Neither one is anything completely new, since many of the latest SoC's have built around ARMv7, but neither one has made the next step up to v8.
In general I would say that the Cortex series are better than the S series spec-wise. For example, Krait has an smaller pipeline (11 vs 15) and half the cache of the A15 (16kB + 16 kB L1, 2mB L2 vs 32 kB + 32 kB L1, 4 mB L2), but a larger pipeline and cache don't always make something better.
I think its fair to say that the Krait is like A15's little brother. Maybe not as powerful, but from the same powerful family.
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Yeah, that's what I was saying.
But the OP is saying its not next gen, yet this is the most powerfull mobile cpu/gpu available for Google.....
What else could you ask for?
True a15 based cpus won't be entering phones for about 6 months, right?
Delay the nexus till then?
LOL
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This Chrisjcks guy is easily the biggest/most annoying Google fanboy on this site. How about keeping your mouth shut when you don't understand something? Go visit Mountainview, and tell them how much you love them instead of spewing your ignorance here please.

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This Chrisjcks guy is easily the biggest/most annoying Google fanboy on this site. How about keeping your mouth shut when you don't understand something? Go visit Mountainview, and tell them how much you love them instead of spewing your ignorance here please.
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PMSL
Your still bitter because everyone told you what a retard you were for wanting to buy a phone you don't like.
You come on here, *****ing and moaning about the Nexus 4 and all the things you hate about it - yet you say you 'have to' buy one because you already sold your galaxy nexus.
Who in their right mind, would not only sell their device for a phone they don't like, but then also moan about it on a forum and STILL go ahead and buy it.
You-are-seriously-retarded.
Ill say it again, XDA is not a forum for you to troll, ***** and moan about a device.
Go cry elsewhere.
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chrisjcks said:
PMSL
Your still bitter because everyone told you what a retard you were for wanting to buy a phone you don't like.
You come on here, *****ing and moaning about the Nexus 4 and all the things you hate about it - yet you say you 'have to' buy one because you already sold your galaxy nexus.
Who in their right mind, would not only sell their device for a phone they don't like, but then also moan about it on a forum and STILL go ahead and buy it.
You-are-seriously-retarded.
Ill say it again, XDA is not a forum for you to troll, ***** and moan about a device.
Go cry elsewhere.
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Not once did I say that I "hate" this device. I'm just not as ignorant and oblivious to its flaws as a fanboy like yourself. I love this phone, and I can't wait to get it, but I'm openly willing to talk about its problems Fanboys ---------->

Will you two please cut it out this is no place for your bickering.
Thank you

Nexus 4 is still a significant improvement over the Gnex. I've enjoyed my Gnex but plan to purchase the Nexus 4. Hardware is improved and the price is right. Time will tell if the battery life is a major issue (I did upgrade my Gnex battery to 2000mah). The nexus line is a developers phone and is not intended to blow the doors off the competition.

Isn't the new N7 the same spec as the N4?

Isn't this just practically the same spec as the N4? Same CPU, same amount of RAM, GPU etc. etc.?

Yes
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With a better display resolution ofc. Is that a good thing or a bad thing for you? Because I think It's awesome to have a tablet like that at this price tag. I'll refresh my Nexus 7 with the new one as soon as I can since it's extremely affordable.

Djabolic said:
With a better display resolution ofc. Is that a good thing or a bad thing for you? Because I think It's awesome to have a tablet like that at this price tag. I'll refresh my Nexus 7 with the new one as soon as I can since it's extremely affordable.
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I have a Nexus 4, no Nexus 7. Have an iPad 3 but want something more portable so don't know if I should get the new N7 or wait for an iPad Mini update. Tied into both ecosystems, but if I go all Android, there's a lot of money wasted on iOS apps.
Also, how do you change names? My girlfriend set this up but doesn't use the account anymore - or is it best to just start a new account?

You can either use multi-user functionality or detach current Google account from tablet and set it up with a new one again.
Nexus 7 is also really portable. It fits into my back pocket and I'm going to everywhere with it without any hassle. iPad 3 in the other hand it's a gigantic device compared to Nexus 7 because it's bigger than 10" and also it has a 4:3 display makes it even more harder to carry around with ease.

Djabolic said:
You can either use multi-user functionality or detach current Google account from tablet and set it up with a new one again.
Nexus 7 is also really portable. It fits into my back pocket and I'm going to everywhere with it without any hassle. iPad 3 in the other hand it's a gigantic device compared to Nexus 7 because it's bigger than 10" and also it has a 4:3 display makes it even more harder to carry around with ease.
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Pretty sure he is referring to his XDA screen name.
Just make a new account, doesn't take long.
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michaelg1030 said:
Pretty sure he is referring to his XDA screen name.
Just make a new account, doesn't take long.
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You could also email the administrator.
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So can one use the Steps to Flash the Android 4.3 Build [Clean FLASH or Retention of Data /w Flash], for the N7? IOW: Will this N4 procedure work on the N7?

xips said:
So can one use the Steps to Flash the Android 4.3 Build [Clean FLASH or Retention of Data /w Flash], for the N7? IOW: Will this N4 procedure work on the N7?
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This thread is discussing the new nexus 7, however many nexus operations are similar, so I don't see why it wouldn't work. Just make sure to use the proper filenames for your device.
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SarahJane89 said:
Also, how do you change names? My girlfriend set this up but doesn't use the account anymore - or is it best to just start a new account?
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You could try asking an admin, but your best bet would be to just create your own account.

I would say yes but this devicenis more capable. I know LG is known for thermal throttling on their mobile phone line. Those constraints won't apply to this new device. Its able to run hotter longer. So even if not stock, once Roms come out, this device/processor can be pushed alot more than in a phone.
Btw, I disabled thermal throttling. On my LG optimus G pro with Snapdragon 600 and Andreno 320. It runs great. So the S4 can be easily pushed past stock limits with no problem.

Eh, its smooth enough. Really no lag at all, but then again, I never had the 1st Nexus 7, so I don't know if that lagged at all. Overall, I couldn't care less whats inside as long as its smooth and fast for the user (me). The ipad mini has 1/4 the power of this, and it runs just as smooth.

SarahJane89 said:
Isn't this just practically the same spec as the N4? Same CPU, same amount of RAM, GPU etc. etc.?
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Yup it's an oversized N4, just like an iPad is an oversized iPod/iPhone.
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Ace42 said:
Yup it's an oversized N4, just like an iPad is an oversized iPod/iPhone.
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Except Google actually used a good screen.

NO there internals are different
SarahJane89 said:
Isn't this just practically the same spec as the N4? Same CPU, same amount of RAM, GPU etc. etc.?
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NO there internals are different
Snapdragon s4 pro (1.5GHZ) = uses krait 200 cores
snapdragon 600 (1.7GHZ) = uses krait 300 cores
Nexus 4 SOC - (APQ8064) = four Krait 200 cores + 2GB LPDDR2 RAM +Adreno 320
Nexus 7 SOC - (APQ8064–1AA) = four krait 300 cores which are underclocked + 2GB DDR3L-1600MHz SDRAM + Adreno 320
so basically the New Nexus 7 uses a underclocked Snapdragon 600

DizzlePro said:
NO there internals are different
Snapdragon s4 pro (1.5GHZ) = uses krait 200 cores
snapdragon 600 (1.7GHZ) = uses krait 300 cores
Nexus 4 SOC - (APQ8064) = four Krait 200 cores + 2GB LPDDR2 RAM +Adreno 320
Nexus 7 SOC - (APQ8064–1AA) = four krait 300 cores which are underclocked + 2GB DDR3L-1600MHz SDRAM + Adreno 320
so basically the New Nexus 7 uses a underclocked Snapdragon 600
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Source please?
I read something like this already, but I'm a bit skeptical about it. Why would Google advertise the lower spec than they actually are?
If this is true, than it's a gamechanger as krait 300 cores are some 30-40% faster than their older (krait200) brothers.

ashbringer said:
Source please?
I read something like this already, but I'm a bit skeptical about it. Why would Google advertise the lower spec than they actually are?
If this is true, than it's a gamechanger as krait 300 cores are some 30-40% faster than their older (krait200) brothers.
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i believe they claim that it's a s4 pro because of it clockspeed alone, most phones out today which use the snapdragon 600 soc have 1.7ghz + clockspeeds
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http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-7-2013-s-4-pro-snapdragon-600-249594/
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7176/nexus-7-2013-mini-review/4

http://www.androidauthority.com/nexus-7-2013-s-4-pro-snapdragon-600-249594/

Yea we have an underclocked S4 600. So its faster then the N4. Also the memory bus has been increased.
The N72 is faster then the N4 but probably nothing noticeable right now. Perhaps with KLP, the additional memory bus and newer CPU instructions might distance the N72 further away from the N4, but who knows.
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