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**WARNING** If you happen to be one of the few satisified X10 customer who are happy with your device and wouldn't change a thing, you may want to stop reading now.
For the rest of us it is really time to start getting excited; not about the X10. Unless of course you are stuck in one of those 3 year Rogers contracts. But for Gingerbread!
Xmas 2010 is looking bright, very bright.
Gingerbread 3.0 is expected to be released in time for the season of giving. Possibly as early as three weeks from now. So hopefully each of us will have a little extra budget to pick out the gifts that we will be giving our favorite person for Xmas; ouselves So the question for us X10 users is would you trade your X10 in for this?
Strong rumers are starting to spread about what these 3.0 devices will offer under the hood:
Things like:
2ghz, 1280x760 resolution that will put iphone to shame, minimum 4" displays, 1020p hd, no third party UI, micro sdXc with a minimum 64gb, webM with VP8 video codec, and much more...
It is possible the first two out might be the new SE psp2 slider, and the Samsung Galaxy s2.The new devices still wont cook your breakfast, but they will do just about everything else.
Maybe they will look like one of the devices below.
http://space.offgamers.com/en/blogs/346-august-2010/3864-the-playstation-android-phone-could-be-yours-this-october
http://www.newlaunches.com/archives/sony_ericsson_to_bring_forth_android_30_psp_go_inspired_gaming_phone.php
You might want to get your X10 on ebay now!
That's cool...
This is an X10 sub forum though so this thread doesn't belong here..
MOD : can you please move this to the general Android section?
Thanks
im_iceman said:
That's cool...
This is an X10 sub forum though so this thread doesn't belong here..
MOD : can you please move this to the general Android section?
Thanks
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Touchy!
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Touchy!
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Yeah these guys don't like it when you rub salt in the wound, att just got the x10, for some this whole "future" technology is witchcraft.
Nice. How about pre-ordering this beauty and putting it on ebay immediately, just because next summer new quad core 3GHz HD 3D HTC device comes loaded with Android 3.5?
last month's rumor
have a read at this,
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ht...012855625_sony_boss_on_move_vs_kinect_ps.html
Does this talk about the PlayStation brand signal more products coming soon -- maybe a new mobile device?
"No new mobile launches this year."
Will you be extending the brand to other company's hardware that runs PlayStation games?
"Our strategy is to maintain the PlayStation brand on Sony devices and provide experiences that are exclusive and proprietary."
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would be nice if they do make an SE PSP phone, seeing how they want to be the leading company for android smartphones but seeing how things are, I doubt we'll be seeing anything this year, probably next year
and yes, this thread doesnt belong here, speak of new phones should be at android section
HA next month... the only thing SE will be doing next month... or any month after that.. will be finding a way to delay whatever's next on their schedule
So thats why MT is disabled! So that we buy it for gaming Snes games rule with MT. Even better with hardware controler But than again I'm not a real mobile-gamer.
Devtone said:
So thats why MT is disabled! So that we buy it for gaming Snes games rule with MT. Even better with hardware controler But than again I'm not a real mobile-gamer.
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All part of SE's plan to motivate you into buying their next device.
Man, I wish I could afford to upgrade phones more often...All my money now gets spent on my girlfriend
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Man, I wish I could afford to upgrade phones more often...All my money now gets spent on my girlfriend
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That is the way it should be
Why putting your money in hands of already billionaires?
Give her your phone and but a new one
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Man, I wish I could afford to upgrade phones more often...All my money now gets spent on my girlfriend
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ARM announced that 1.2 GHz processors will be out early 2011 and 1.5 GHz will come late 2011, So whose gonna make 2 GHz before this Xmas?
Duh, SE is going to use the new Core i7s and a GeForce graphics card!
I won't buy a slider phone, they don't feel solid to me at all. Let's hope that they make a touch only version, just like what they did with X10 mini and mini pro and also Vivaz and Vivaz pro ..
Pretty sure there would be more buzz if gingerbread was around the corner. I don't think there would be that much demand for a psp phone. Sure its cool but how many people need a phone that plays console-like games?
It may happen, but I don't think it will be a great success. The psp wasn't a great success to begin with.
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Pretty sure there would be more buzz if gingerbread was around the corner. I don't think there would be that much demand for a psp phone. Sure its cool but how many people need a phone that plays console-like games?
It may happen, but I don't think it will be a great success. The psp wasn't a great success to begin with.
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I would have thought Google would time the announcement of Gingerbread to compete with the launch of WP7... let's see what happens
And psp I think was a pretty big success...
according to wiki the console is "the most successful non-Nintendo handheld game system ever sold"
Actually, LOL nvm what I said above
PSP is the highest selling console, week in and week out in Japan, for the past two years.
If that's not "succesful" I don't know what is.
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All part of SE's plan to motivate you into buying their next device.
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no, SE's motivating us into buying their opponents next device.
If you think that SE is alone in doing something like this, you're the most naive person on earth.
Just look at HTC and the Desire. A few months after release, they re-release it with a better screen, then a month after that, announce a new phone with everything people wanted from the first model.
Look at Nintendo... they just keep releasing the same system with a different config every few years.
It's called business.
Dont buy se! They won't update product in long term
that's mentioned around 50 times now here in almost every topic in this section, but thank you for starting another topic about it. And to prove I really listen to these kind of well motivated, proved by links which confirms statements posts, I pre-ordered 2 Arc's yesterday...
I really don't care about these manufacturers updates, our devs are doing much better jobs, losing all the default crap and making our phones better, faster and better looking than all manufacturers can do together. I only need a good looking empty shell which holds these creations together.
And if I don't like it, I will sell it and buy another phone, but I think it is just too good looking not to try it for a while. So instead of flaming I thought it might be nice for a change to motivate why I do will get an Arc (black for my wife and silver for me)
Cheers,
Arnold
I'm getting 2 Arc's also.
I want to buy 1 as well I just hope it is not too expensive with the package i want to buy *finger crossed*
Pre-ordered two as well. One for me, the other one is for my brother
Can't understand those people coming here just to annoy us about SE
Anyone who hates SE should not bother coming here
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Maybe the OP should change the topic to
"Who likes the Arc so much, they're getting 2?"
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Dont buy se! They won't update product in long term
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Please close and deled this thread. Thats just a troll with life issues!
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Original i9000 I loved how you took care of me for the past few months. But now I have a new love ... the i9100. Ever since I had her in my hands I forgot all about you ...
But now that I look at you as I am prepping to sell you, I would like to say good bye Samsung i9000.
It was good while it lasted
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Original i9000 I loved how you took care of me for the past few months. But now I have a new love ... the i9100. Ever since I had her in my hands I forgot all about you ...
But now that I look at you as I am prepping to sell you, I would like to say good bye Samsung i9000.
It was good while it lasted
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Good for you.
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May you use it with joy. I am waiting for the quad core arm processors . They are allready used on the new psp. There is only a matter of time now.
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Original i9000 I loved how you took care of me for the past few months. But now I have a new love ... the i9100. Ever since I had her in my hands I forgot all about you ...
But now that I look at you as I am prepping to sell you, I would like to say good bye Samsung i9000.
It was good while it lasted
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May you rot in hell with the rest of them...
Unless I get one too...
(I'm not jealous at all! ;-) )
Just don't turn supercurio and hardcore over to the darkside!
Supercurious going to the sgs 2?? Its the saddest news i heard im a fan of supercurious byt i dont have the money for a sgs 2....
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starkmapper said:
May you rot in hell with the rest of them...
Unless I get one too...
(I'm not jealous at all! ;-) )
Just don't turn supercurio and hardcore over to the darkside!
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Supercurious going to the sgs 2?? Its the saddest news i heard im a fan of supercurious byt i dont have the money for a sgs 2....
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SuperCurio, DocRambone, Chainfire and a few others have already joined us. We are waiting on Hardcore to cross the bridge.
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SuperCurio, DocRambone, Chainfire and a few others have already joined us. We are waiting on Hardcore to cross the bridge.
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What happens to us regular folk who don't buy a new phone every year?
answer: We thrive in our galaxy and travel to the EVEN bigger one (III) after another cycle has passed!
Damn nice, its not available here yet
I ordered a SGS2, sold my SGS1 to someone at work but my SGS2 was delayed (unit shortages) and I am now stuck with an old Motorola flip phone =/
how do you guys even afford to buy a new phone every half a year
I'll wait for the next Google phone. No more touchwiz crap for me, thanks. No more begging for updates.
Also, while it's clearly a better phone, the differences are too small. ppi density was poor already, now with the bigger screen they should have gone for 540 x 960, like the Sensation.
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how do you guys even afford to buy a new phone every half a year
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Really clever guy would have sold SGS 1 just before SGS launch £250 .
Bought O2 PAYG and if it was as many are unlocked sold on Ebay £500 .
Buy PAYG O2 £399 net transfer cost £49 .
If i had thought about it i would have bought more than one O2 for onward sale .
SGS2 has a flashing counter on boot screen better stick with SGS 1
jje
i just got my brand new sgs a couple of weeks ago, after selling my old htc legend, so i'll stick with it for at least one year from now... after i'll master the tehnic of rooting it and all the customizing stuff, maybe then i'll consider upgrading to the new sgs2, but right now i consider it useless for me
only thing i miss from my legend is the sense ui, definetly much more user friendly than the touchwiz stuff, this is the main reason i consider rooting my sgs, i'll just wait for a stable release of sense ui for the sgs and then i'll be completly sattisfied with this awesome phone
heads off to SGS 2 thread tho. no need to make everyone jealous
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Supercurious going to the sgs 2?? Its the saddest news i heard im a fan of supercurious byt i dont have the money for a sgs 2....
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But he is not' yet. The guy has just got approx. +200$ (or mayB I'm wrong) via donations from us users for his magnificent job, so he is still stuck on v1, for now
As for the rest, I just joined the SGS1 club, so if I just thought for changing it, my wife would kill me with a pillow wile I sleep between two flashings ))
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It is too bad that many of the good devs are jumping ship before we get mature Gingerbread releases and mods.
In a way despite all the whinging we see on here about Samsung they are supporting the device for longer than most of the XDA devs.
The doomsayers were saying Samsung would bail on SGS 2.3 given the SGS2, when in fact it was XDA devs that bailed fast upon SGS2 release. Not that they don't have the right and I appreciate the work they did while they were here.
Lol SGS3 comes out late this year... What will people do who just upgraded to SGS2?
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I jut upgraded to 2.3.3 a coupla weeks ago, and I'm content to stay with a 90% cutting edge phone that still outperforms my old iOS Applecrap. It's kinda like having an E46 M3 (last version) versus the the new one. A few performance mods and you're just as good as the stock new one, and most non-gearheads wouldn't notice or care anyway. They'll just be impressed with the notion you own a fast Bimmer.
The money in my case would be better spent on a Honeycomb tablet as a companion to the SGS. Ones like the Asus Transformer look promising in terms of price, performance and battery life over the Asus G50VT laptop I'm typing this on.
I'm not begrudging anyone heading to the next level. Hell, Ill even admit jealousy. It's just that we bought 2 of these since the summer of last year and the shine hasn't worn of just yet, especially since moving to GB. And by the Christmas season, somebody will have raised the bar again. But I'll be still thinking that these are really just phone with a computer along for the ride. And I never upgraded my computers this fast. And stir in that the combined monthly bill is nearly $200 over the initial cost of the damn things. Yup, I'll wait.
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SGS2 has a flashing counter on boot screen better stick with SGS 1
jje
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What do you mean by this?
Wrong forum for posting about the sgs2 i think...
But since its here, I dont see the point to buy a sgs2 right now unless youre a developer. In the other case it just means having to go back to stock roms and miss out on all the awesome developments that were made for the SGS.
Id rather wait to jump ships until such developments are being made on SGS2 aswell.
Righty ho folks this is your chance to stand up and be counted, for those of you that watch THE GADGET SHOW they are holding a vote for gadget of the year and the Galaxy S II is on there top ten VS the iPhone 4S.
The gadget show seriously bum apple products for whatever crappy reason, but i have been a supporter of Android from the beginning and think we need to show them ANDROID KICKS APPLE BUTT!!
all you need to do is click the link below, the gadget show website will pop up, on the right hand side is the voting poll, simply select galaxy s II and submit, no registration needed so i expect you all to do since the you know aswell as i do the phone is one mighty powerful device and kicks iphone out of the water anyday!!!!
http://fwd.channel5.com/adv/gadget-of-the-year-2011
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What does this have to do with development?
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wheres your team spirit? instead of being negative why not do something positive to inspire samsung to carry on delivering the best of best in the devices? Im sure Samsung would love yet another Badge to there title for not just the best phone of the year but best gadget of the year is something totally new and pretty big.
and with the GADGET SHOW being watched all over the globe its something to be proud of! you own the best gadget of the year.
so please be positive and lets do this together
To be honest, who gives a damn? I don't care what others think about a device I have, as long as I enjoy using it myself.
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wheres your team spirit? instead of being negative why not do something positive to inspire samsung to carry on delivering the best of best in the devices? Im sure Samsung would love yet another Badge to there title for not just the best phone of the year but best gadget of the year is something totally new and pretty big.
and with the GADGET SHOW being watched all over the globe its something to be proud of! you own the best gadget of the year.
so please be positive and lets do this together
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I agree with akusokuzan. Even though you're enthusiastic, this has got zero to do with development. You'll get a lot more positive response in the general section!
The people who own the phones know which is best...we dont need a tv show to prove it
(and this should be in general, theres no development in this thread, just a fanboy thread by a user called fanboi...ooo the irony)
Remove this please, nor does it belong in development, nor at xda at all in my opinion. Looks like advertisement for some site of which the op might earn cash for clicks.
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I really don't care . Yes, that gave me the urge to post this.
Darkside Agent said:
The people who own the phones know which is best...we dont need a tv show to prove it
(and this should be in general, theres no development in this thread, just a fanboy thread by a user called fanboi...ooo the irony)
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And you say i kill you with my posts and sig... You da man....
And to OP we all know here we have one of the best phones around we do not need a tv show to say that for us...Have a nice day
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Righty ho folks this is your chance to stand up and be counted, for those of you that watch THE GADGET SHOW they are holding a vote for gadget of the year and the Galaxy S II is on there top ten VS the iPhone 4S.
The gadget show seriously bum apple products for whatever crappy reason, but i have been a supporter of Android from the beginning and think we need to show them ANDROID KICKS APPLE BUTT!!
all you need to do is click the link below, the gadget show website will pop up, on the right hand side is the voting poll, simply select galaxy s II and submit, no registration needed so i expect you all to do since the you know aswell as i do the phone is one mighty powerful device and kicks iphone out of the water anyday!!!!
http://fwd.channel5.com/adv/gadget-of-the-year-2011
Many thanks for participating
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done
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http://fwd.channel5.com/adv/gadget-of-the-year-2011
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I can seem to find the voting list. Is it over? Am I too late?
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NVm, i got it.
But...Is it ironic that the voting list did not show up on my Dolphin browser on galaxy s2?
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I love gadget show but they are pro-apple as they get lots of apple products for free, even their competition is full of apple gear.
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I love gadget show but they are pro-apple as they get lots of apple products for free, even their competition is full of apple gear.
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which is the reason i want them to wake up n smell the bacon, the iphone isnt the be all n end all, if you open your eyes youll notice the sgs ii is by far the better handset in every aspect and android in general the better os
I have voted
hopefully the galaxy will win
Ian Jones said:
I have voted
hopefully the galaxy will win
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thats the plan, thanks to everyone that is voting, we need to shock the gadget show to get them to realise their is better out their than just the crappy old iphone that seems to win everything on the gadget show even if it has blatently lost.
KEEP VOTING
Bumping post to raise awareness of thread
The Gadget Show is dire. It is an appalling TV programme. It lasts about 45 minutes (excluding the much better produced adverts) and you would be lucky to find 5 minutes worthy of a tech show.
They do 'challenges' which are purely for entertainment - but fail even to do that.
As said earlier, they are very Apple centric.
The only bit of the show that is any good is the web only reviews, and even then they tend to be very superficial. Then there is the one minute of adverts before the review starts, only to get under 2 minutes of contect.
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The Gadget Show is dire. It is an appalling TV programme. It lasts about 45 minutes (excluding the much better produced adverts) and you would be lucky to find 5 minutes worthy of a tech show.
They do 'challenges' which are purely for entertainment - but fail even to do that.
As said earlier, they are very Apple centric.
The only bit of the show that is any good is the web only reviews, and even then they tend to be very superficial. Then there is the one minute of adverts before the review starts, only to get under 2 minutes of contect.
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a bit like top gear but failing miserably lol never really thought about it until you just said
I understand. You love HTC. You love the HTC One. You want it to do better than the Galaxy S IV. You may not even like Samsung phones that much.
But those are not excuses for bashing one company over and over in threads that wouldn't even mention Samsung otherwise. I know I'm probably going to get some hate now because I have a Samsung phone, and yes, I just made a post explaining why I like some of its features over the One (removable battery, microsd). But I'm not saying Samsung is the very best or anything like that. I'm tired of reading threads and coming across random hate. I'll admit, there are a bunch of trolls that come over and bash the One. Bashing the S3/S4 back is not an acceptable response.
I like Samsung phones. I also like HTC phones. I'm not a fan of LG phones, however, but that doesn't mean I go around saying things like the "Craptimus G" or "I'm glad the One doesn't have XXX like the LG Optimus G Pro, that's such a piece of ****."
Some of the threads on here are so bad I feel like I'm browsing reddit.com/r/Android at times. For those of you who don't know about reddit/that particular subreddit, be glad. It's downright awful (up there with /r/Atheism).
If you did want to compare against the S3/S4, you can just say, "I feel like the HTC One is superior to the S3/S4 in XXX aspect. I'm just not a fan of Samsung phones in general." You should not say, "Lol, the S3/S4 doesn't even compare to the One. The only reason anybody bought that plasticy piece of **** was because Samsung has more marketing. It's terrible in every aspect."
I'm no mod. I don't have any power over any of you. I've even been on xda for less time than most of you. But I know one thing for sure.
If I wanted to read hate against a certain brand I would start a thread on modmyi inciting hate against Samsung.
/rant.
News flash, it happenes in every forum. Go have fun in the Samsung forum, see how they also talk about HTC.
Read one line of your worthless post and that was enough.
Great thread, thanks for making it.
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News flash, it happenes in every forum. Go have fun in the Samsung forum, see how they also talk about HTC.
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Really?
daleski75 said:
Is the Galaxy S4 just getting announced on the 14th of March or released on that date as I see a lot of websites stating a release date of the 14th surely this is wrong?
BTW torn between a Galaxy S4 and the HTC One (pre-ordered)
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HTC one for me fancy a change. Love the look of blinkfeed.
Wonder if I will regret my decision. Funnily I get my phone the day the s4 is released.
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Gonna be interesting to see how it compares to the HTC One.
The One benchmarks pretty well, 12k in Quadrant, 25k in Antutu...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wijp79uCwFg
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I'll buy a Sony/HTC if Samsung doesn't release a phone with those specs yeah... The reason why I don't buy HTC is that it isn't always sure you can S-OFF them...
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Meh..There aren't many problems with getting S-Off on HTCs nowadays.HTC's bootloader unlocking tool seems to be here to stay,and it seems to be working ok.Sony is the most developer friendly manufacturer,so if it's developing/modding you care about,maybe Sony's phones are the best for you.A problem that we have with both HTC and Samsung are incomplete kernel sources.I do hope things will get better with the One and the S4 and they become more like Sony,but my gut tells me that I'm probably wrong in hoping...
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Those are all from the S3 forum. If you can find bashing of HTC there I'd gladly change my mind.
Geez chill out.
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I think you should take fanboy-ism from both sides with a grain of salt. 99 percent of us land in the middle somewhere, but you're in a forum of a flagship device that hasn't even been released yet. The common (and sane) folk don't show up until the device has been released.
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I understand. You love HTC. You love the HTC One. You want it to do better than the Galaxy S IV. You may not even like Samsung phones that much.
But those are not excuses for bashing one company over and over in threads that wouldn't even mention Samsung otherwise. I know I'm probably going to get some hate now because I have a Samsung phone, and yes, I just made a post explaining why I like some of its features over the One (removable battery, microsd). But I'm not saying Samsung is the very best or anything like that. I'm tired of reading threads and coming across random hate. I'll admit, there are a bunch of trolls that come over and bash the One. Bashing the S3/S4 back is not an acceptable response.
I like Samsung phones. I also like HTC phones. I'm not a fan of LG phones, however, but that doesn't mean I go around saying things like the "Craptimus G" or "I'm glad the One doesn't have XXX like the LG Optimus G Pro, that's such a piece of ****."
Some of the threads on here are so bad I feel like I'm browsing reddit.com/r/Android at times. For those of you who don't know about reddit/that particular subreddit, be glad. It's downright awful (up there with /r/Atheism).
If you did want to compare against the S3/S4, you can just say, "I feel like the HTC One is superior to the S3/S4 in XXX aspect. I'm just not a fan of Samsung phones in general." You should not say, "Lol, the S3/S4 doesn't even compare to the One. The only reason anybody bought that plasticy piece of **** was because Samsung has more marketing. It's terrible in every aspect."
I'm no mod. I don't have any power over any of you. I've even been on xda for less time than most of you. But I know one thing for sure.
If I wanted to read hate against a certain brand I would start a thread on modmyi inciting hate against Samsung.
/rant.
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Your post is "almost" as cheap as a Samsung device. <3
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Thunder350 said:
Your post is "almost" as cheap as a Samsung device. <3
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LMAO!!!
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i am not a fanboy of htc, i have galaxy s3 and buy htc one, i think will be better for me than galaxy s4.
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I think you should take fanboy-ism from both sides with a grain of salt. 99 percent of us land in the middle somewhere,
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But sadly, the 1% have a 50% share of voice.
The common (and sane) folk don't show up until the device has been released.
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If this forum is like the Teg3 One X forum it'll actually get worse. After release, issues that are bound to come up (because no device ever produced has been issue-free or met everyone's expectations equally) go through Elisabeth Kübler-Ross' five stages (denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and, finally, acceptance) as part of their discussion. As an example, there were clearly assembly-related QC issues and a Wi-Fi issue HTC publically acknowledged with the One X. It took dozens of pages of posts with people sharing the same issues before the "defenders" reached EKR’s "acceptance." And mentioning the "S" word unless followed by a derogatory adjective is a sure way to get the crowd riled. For some reason HTC forums tend to be more emotional. If you view a lot of it purely for the entertainment value it's kind of fun to watch. But knowing that, the best advice is "don't poke the bear."
Something I'm already annoyed about in this forum...
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get over it mate..... it's the interwebs..... people are gonna post what they wanna post, and they are not gonna think twice about what's buggin ya .... might as well wear a "kick-me" sign
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I think you should take fanboy-ism from both sides with a grain of salt. 99 percent of us land in the middle somewhere, but you're in a forum of a flagship device that hasn't even been released yet. The common (and sane) folk don't show up until the device has been released.
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good point.... device isn't out yet but the forum is buzzzzzzin..... must be the fans!
Amazing people just now find the Internet! It actually astonishes me....
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Turb0wned said:
News flash, it happenes in every forum. Go have fun in the Samsung forum, see how they also talk about HTC.
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So u act like a douche and your excuse is everyone else does it
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