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Nexus S stands for sucky!!!!!

When I saw a picture of the Nexus S, I thought, what a ugly phone. Then, I saw that it's made by Samsung, nothing against Samsung but to me their phones are cheap The phone doesn't deserve the Nexus name. IMO HTC makes the best phones. I have three friends that have Galaxy S's, and their always asking me for my N1, to use my navigation, and make phone calls, because they're always losing their signal, and their GPS is screwy, plus they have ****ty battery life, so they live on their chargers. I keep telling them to root, but they want me to do it for them, I stopped rooting peoples phones who refuse to educate themselves about rooting, because they're always calling you with problems, because they don't understand. Another thing, I was thinking about buying the Evo, but my friend has it and the resolution is crap, the colors are dull, almost to the point of transparency, I think HTC focused too much on having the biggest screen, so I won't be buying that crap, I thought that all the high-end android devices after the N1 would blow us out, but have done nothing except confirm that I made the right choice with my Sexy Nexy, so we'll be together a little while longer. I thought the N2 would go in the direction of the Desire look, that's a classy phone, that has a professional look for older gents like myself, I'm very disappointed that Google gave Samsung the contract.

have you ever typed a reply and deleted it while think *why bother?*

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have you ever typed a reply and deleted it while think *why bother?*
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greenstuffs said:
have you ever typed a reply and deleted it while think *why bother?*
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If a post doesn't hold your interest, on to the next one.

There's already a thread for this. Try searching next time.

More lamers are on xda now...

On the flamethrower!!
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blas4me said:
When I saw a picture of the Nexus S, I thought, what a ugly phone. Then, I saw that it's made by Samsung, nothing against Samsung but to me their phones are cheap The phone doesn't deserve the Nexus name. IMO HTC makes the best phones. I have three friends that have Galaxy S's, and their always asking me for my N1, to use my navigation, and make phone calls, because they're always losing their signal, and their GPS is screwy, plus they have ****ty battery life, so they live on their chargers. I keep telling them to root, but they want me to do it for them, I stopped rooting peoples phones who refuse to educate themselves about rooting, because they're always calling you with problems, because they don't understand. Another thing, I was thinking about buying the Evo, but my friend has it and the resolution is crap, the colors are dull, almost to the point of transparency, I think HTC focused too much on having the biggest screen, so I won't be buying that crap, I thought that all the high-end android devices after the N1 would blow us out, but have done nothing except confirm that I made the right choice with my Sexy Nexy, so we'll be together a little while longer. I thought the N2 would go in the direction of the Desire look, that's a classy phone, that has a professional look for older gents like myself, I'm very disappointed that Google gave Samsung the contract.
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You're a professional guy who needs a classy phone. I get it.

I too despise helping people not as smart as I. It's so monotonous dealing with the simpletons.

Lol! A sore loser. Your nexy is outdated, it belongs to the past. Face it, accept it, move on.

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All the time, brother!

Apple 3G ---> Apple 3GS for "speed?"
Nexus One ---> Nexus S for "speed?"

After going from Nexus One to Evo to G2 I have to say that the G2 is the true successor to the Nexus One

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Cool story, bro.

it was only a couple of weeks ago when most people on here was up in arms that samsung was rumoured to be making a nexus.
now your all lapping it up. whats happened?

I wanted Vibrant once, but I can consider NS instead, and it's only better!

ROBIN50N said:
now your all lapping it up. whats happened?
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Maybe it's the rumored Orion CPU which if true will be able to compete with any mobile CPU/GPU through 2012.

Award Tour said:
Maybe it's the rumored Orion CPU which if true will be able to compete with any mobile CPU/GPU through 2012.
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hmm yeah that will be it. so samsungs crappy build is no longer a concern.
the "ill never buy a samdung" brigade have scuttled back under there rocks.

Is it possible its something as simple as google wanting to continue use of a amoled screen capable phone for dev. phone purposes? I mean thats one of the main interest points ive noticed when anyone sees my N1. Everyone says "wow the screen is so crisp". Seeing how samsung took amoled away from everyone else just kind of makes sense on googles part if that be the case.
Nothing against HTC, they make great phones but i just wonder if use of amoled is more paramount than most give credit for. Look at it this way, all phone makers can more or less make the same kind of phones hardware wise. Only difference being is samsungs ability to use amoled. Just a thought , nothing more.

i read on here that HTC said the N1 would be thier first and last phone designed for a non carrier and that is why google had to go else where. I'd have prefered motorola, but samsung is an ok 2nd choice. HTC would obviously have been my first but they are out of the question. All i really care about is vanilla android with updates from google, a nice sized screen, good hardware, and a nice design.
the nexus S has all of the above minus the nice design...but it has helped me realize that the design weights a lot more in my purchasing decision than I had previously thought. I dont see myself buying a nexus s if it looks like the leaks orion processor or not

Really considering selling my atrix for a Sgs2

Please convince me not to do this! I've been really thinking about doing it ='(
I want a better camera , gingerbread , and I heard the gs2 has a better display

i don't understand why you need us to convince you to keep something. it's your own decision. if you want the SGS2, then get it. if you're happy with your atrix, then keep it. we all have different opinions and decisions. make your own, honestly.

lesonal said:
Please convince me not to do this! I've been really thinking about doing it ='(
I want a better camera , gingerbread , and I heard the gs2 has a better display
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I would trade mine in a heartbeat if this bootloader doesn't get unlocked. I am getting sick of the Motorola drama.

Do it. You wont regret it
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Any ideas on a good place to sell the Atrix and buy the SGS2 (or the Samsung Attain which will be the AT&T version of the SGS2)? I'm new on eBay so I'm a little worried that buyers wouldn't buy from me because I don't have any feedback. Any other options?

Think about it, try out the GSII if you are able, look at the dev threads and maybe wait a few weeks to see what the situation is for the Atrix compared to it. I know I certainly will consider it if/when the GSII comes to AT&T.
EDIT: Only other place I can think of is Craigslist. If you post plenty of pictures and a detailed description, that will help.

Just keep it and wait till the next Nexus comes out and then sell it
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rjayflo said:
Just keep it and wait till the next Nexus comes out and then sell it
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This is what you should do.
Also the processor and GPU on the Atrix is better than the one on the SGSII. When the Atrix gets 2.3 it will do circles around the SGSII.
There are only 2 things that will pull me towards an SGSII
1. Unlocked bootloader (this likely going to be locked when it comes to AT&T)
2. Super Amoled screen
If those are important to you go get it if not keep the atrix. The dev section is booming we might get the bootloader unlocked.

lesonal said:
Please convince me not to do this! I've been really thinking about doing it ='(
I want a better camera , gingerbread , and I heard the gs2 has a better display
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Tired of reading threads like this!
BYE!

I've got both handsets and to be honest the grass isn't necessarily greener on the SGS II side. Geez its a nice handset though, but I still believe 4" is the best size. I've found that the SGS II has a very plastic feel, and the back cover is so thin. I've been in a few situations where I've accidently sat down with the Atrix in my back pocket, and its survived easily, but I worry about doing the same with the SGS II. The SGS II probably isn't the phone I would take out drinking with the boys on a Friday night - I'm sure I would easily break it.
If you're looking for a speed comparison between Gingerbread handsets, it runs just as smooth on the SGS II as it does on my Nexus S (yes I also have the NS). There's no real difference between them IMO, (even though the Nexus S is single core). Where the SGS II shines is in having numerous widgets going and live wall papers at the same time - and although the lag is still there in momentary milliseconds, its no where as bad as the Atrix with live wallpapers going with Android 2.2. I think this is where Gingerbread shines though - and I'm sure the Atrix will perform similar when it gets Gingerbread. Its this very reason why, although I've been tempted to sell the Atrix as well, I'm prepared to hang onto it until it gets 2.3.
Damage wise, I've found the Atrix is easier to fix. For example, I dropped my Atrix onto my concrete driveway from low height and damaged the corners of the back cover - However, the cover was easily replaced by one from www.cnn.cn. As you know, the cover on the Atrix covers the corners, so when you replace the back cover, its all fixed. The SGS II isn't the same. If you drop it on the corners, you need to replace the entire body..! I'm not looking forward to this..
I think other than the shear size of the SGS II being a negative for me, I really wish the SGS II had qHD screen resolution. 800x480 at 4.3" on the SGS II is just bad IMO, although maybe if I hadn't gone from the Atrix to the SGS II, I wouldn't have cared. I feel I have been spoilt by the qHD though, especially when I view high resolution photos I've taken with my Canon 5D Mk II DSLR - on the SGS II, the sub-pixelation is a killer...
My 2 cents

lesonal said:
Please convince me not to do this! I've been really thinking about doing it ='(
I want a better camera , gingerbread , and I heard the gs2 has a better display
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I don't give a ****, and I don't know who else does. I'm sick of all these idiots thinking people care that "I sold my Atrix" or "Traded Atrix for Nexus S" or "Atrix or Wait for SG2" and the post that you just made, young sir, is no better. Look it up and make your own opinion, for God's sake. We don't need ONE MORE NONSENSE THREAD someone made asking which handset to buy, or informing people they have rid of their Atrix and/or got something else.

BravoMotorola said:
I don't give a ****, and I don't know who else does. I'm sick of all these idiots thinking people care that "I sold my Atrix" or "Traded Atrix for Nexus S" or "Atrix or Wait for SG2" and the post that you just made, young sir, is no better. Look it up and make your own opinion, for God's sake. We don't need ONE MORE NONSENSE THREAD someone made asking which handset to buy, or informing people they have rid of their Atrix and/or got something else.
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You know, sometimes you have to just get out there and say how you feel.

I'm starting to think Samsung fanboys are worse than apple fanboys. After all, we don't get iphoners in here talking trash all the time.

BravoMotorola said:
I don't give a ****, and I don't know who else does. I'm sick of all these idiots thinking people care that "I sold my Atrix" or "Traded Atrix for Nexus S" or "Atrix or Wait for SG2" and the post that you just made, young sir, is no better. Look it up and make your own opinion, for God's sake. We don't need ONE MORE NONSENSE THREAD someone made asking which handset to buy, or informing people they have rid of their Atrix and/or got something else.
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Why again should he not ask for opinions about a phone on a board that is focused around discussions on said phone?

BravoMotorola said:
I don't give a ****, and I don't know who else does. I'm sick of all these idiots thinking people care that "I sold my Atrix" or "Traded Atrix for Nexus S" or "Atrix or Wait for SG2" and the post that you just made, young sir, is no better. Look it up and make your own opinion, for God's sake. We don't need ONE MORE NONSENSE THREAD someone made asking which handset to buy, or informing people they have rid of their Atrix and/or got something else.
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Normally I would agree with this school of thought, but the SG2 is a $600-$900 phone to just "Jump into".
The Atrix unlocked is not cheap either.
It's nice to hear other people's input since XDA is a "community" that tries to help others.
Sure you can read reviews in Samsung's forum, but to hear it from somebody in here gives you more perspective.
Sure I've seen multiple threads about this, "and wish it was all in one neat thread", but if Motorola got their act together (especially for Bell users) this **** wouldn't be happening as much...

Man_of_Leisure said:
I'm starting to think Samsung fanboys are worse than apple fanboys. After all, we don't get iphoners in here talking trash all the time.
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Nobody is talking thrash, OP is just asking for "help" from others.
The "only" mistake OP made, was creating a new thread instead of posting his concerns in the other existing, that's all...

CaelanT said:
Tired of reading threads like this!
BYE!
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LOL! All I could think of was this:
“I command ye, therefore, upon the peril of your lives, to depart immediately out of this place! Take away that shining bauble there, and lock up the doors. You have sat here too long for the good you do. In the name of God, go!”

@cheetah2k Thanks for the great writeup!
Everyday to and from work, I think about making the switch myself. I've had the Bell Atrix for over a month, and have probably used it for half the time. My Motorola Milestone is kicking it's ass right now and that's not sitting well with me.
^ (still have a capped device with no Stock SBF and Adfree still doesn't work)
The only thing that still keeps me holding on is hoping that Gingerbread actually fixes this device, and that I get the "Telus Fascinate" experience again.
^Basically I had the same garbage issues with the Fascinate on Eclair, but Froyo almost fixed everything. Sadly GPS was still broken, but the phone was way better than before.
Last week I actually wiped my Atrix and almost sold it, but after reading about some of the bugs on the SGII it's bought me a little bit more time.
Hardware and form factor wise the Atrix is PERFECT, but it's like using a Core 2 Duo PC running on 98/Me. Part of me still doesn't trust Motorola, and the support on their forums blows right now, but the phone has so much potential in front of it.
If the Galaxy S II didn't have so many dead pixel units reported, I would have pulled the trigger a long time ago and pitted the 2 phones against each other. For now I'm just waiting for the SG2 to either come down in price, or Moto to give us an "official" timetable of when Gingerbread is gonna be rolled out (including the forgotten Bell units)...

+1 for cheetah2k, a good seemingly unbiased comparison. I think its best that I stick with the Atrix because of the things it still has that the SGS2 doesn't, like qHD and the awesome fingerprint sensor. Plus, it'll probably be a little while before the SGS2 officially comes on AT&T, so I might as well just wait for the next Nexus. Thanks again, cheetah2k!

system update is really a issue constraining phone's spec
I bought atrix just for it is the first phone with 1ghz*2 +1g ram
but I'm now considering to replace it with a next-g nexus
for it is branded by Google and always gets the latest version
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Samsung Galaxy S II Gadget Of The YEAR!!

Righty ho folks this is your chance to stand up and be counted, for those of you that watch THE GADGET SHOW they are holding a vote for gadget of the year and the Galaxy S II is on there top ten VS the iPhone 4S.
The gadget show seriously bum apple products for whatever crappy reason, but i have been a supporter of Android from the beginning and think we need to show them ANDROID KICKS APPLE BUTT!!
all you need to do is click the link below, the gadget show website will pop up, on the right hand side is the voting poll, simply select galaxy s II and submit, no registration needed so i expect you all to do since the you know aswell as i do the phone is one mighty powerful device and kicks iphone out of the water anyday!!!!
http://fwd.channel5.com/adv/gadget-of-the-year-2011
Many thanks for participating

What does this have to do with development?
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wheres your team spirit? instead of being negative why not do something positive to inspire samsung to carry on delivering the best of best in the devices? Im sure Samsung would love yet another Badge to there title for not just the best phone of the year but best gadget of the year is something totally new and pretty big.
and with the GADGET SHOW being watched all over the globe its something to be proud of! you own the best gadget of the year.
so please be positive and lets do this together

To be honest, who gives a damn? I don't care what others think about a device I have, as long as I enjoy using it myself.

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wheres your team spirit? instead of being negative why not do something positive to inspire samsung to carry on delivering the best of best in the devices? Im sure Samsung would love yet another Badge to there title for not just the best phone of the year but best gadget of the year is something totally new and pretty big.
and with the GADGET SHOW being watched all over the globe its something to be proud of! you own the best gadget of the year.
so please be positive and lets do this together
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I agree with akusokuzan. Even though you're enthusiastic, this has got zero to do with development. You'll get a lot more positive response in the general section!

The people who own the phones know which is best...we dont need a tv show to prove it
(and this should be in general, theres no development in this thread, just a fanboy thread by a user called fanboi...ooo the irony)

Remove this please, nor does it belong in development, nor at xda at all in my opinion. Looks like advertisement for some site of which the op might earn cash for clicks.
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I really don't care . Yes, that gave me the urge to post this.

Darkside Agent said:
The people who own the phones know which is best...we dont need a tv show to prove it
(and this should be in general, theres no development in this thread, just a fanboy thread by a user called fanboi...ooo the irony)
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And you say i kill you with my posts and sig... You da man....
And to OP we all know here we have one of the best phones around we do not need a tv show to say that for us...Have a nice day

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Righty ho folks this is your chance to stand up and be counted, for those of you that watch THE GADGET SHOW they are holding a vote for gadget of the year and the Galaxy S II is on there top ten VS the iPhone 4S.
The gadget show seriously bum apple products for whatever crappy reason, but i have been a supporter of Android from the beginning and think we need to show them ANDROID KICKS APPLE BUTT!!
all you need to do is click the link below, the gadget show website will pop up, on the right hand side is the voting poll, simply select galaxy s II and submit, no registration needed so i expect you all to do since the you know aswell as i do the phone is one mighty powerful device and kicks iphone out of the water anyday!!!!
http://fwd.channel5.com/adv/gadget-of-the-year-2011
Many thanks for participating
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done
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I can seem to find the voting list. Is it over? Am I too late?
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NVm, i got it.
But...Is it ironic that the voting list did not show up on my Dolphin browser on galaxy s2?
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I love gadget show but they are pro-apple as they get lots of apple products for free, even their competition is full of apple gear.
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I love gadget show but they are pro-apple as they get lots of apple products for free, even their competition is full of apple gear.
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which is the reason i want them to wake up n smell the bacon, the iphone isnt the be all n end all, if you open your eyes youll notice the sgs ii is by far the better handset in every aspect and android in general the better os

I have voted
hopefully the galaxy will win

Ian Jones said:
I have voted
hopefully the galaxy will win
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thats the plan, thanks to everyone that is voting, we need to shock the gadget show to get them to realise their is better out their than just the crappy old iphone that seems to win everything on the gadget show even if it has blatently lost.
KEEP VOTING

Bumping post to raise awareness of thread

The Gadget Show is dire. It is an appalling TV programme. It lasts about 45 minutes (excluding the much better produced adverts) and you would be lucky to find 5 minutes worthy of a tech show.
They do 'challenges' which are purely for entertainment - but fail even to do that.
As said earlier, they are very Apple centric.
The only bit of the show that is any good is the web only reviews, and even then they tend to be very superficial. Then there is the one minute of adverts before the review starts, only to get under 2 minutes of contect.

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The Gadget Show is dire. It is an appalling TV programme. It lasts about 45 minutes (excluding the much better produced adverts) and you would be lucky to find 5 minutes worthy of a tech show.
They do 'challenges' which are purely for entertainment - but fail even to do that.
As said earlier, they are very Apple centric.
The only bit of the show that is any good is the web only reviews, and even then they tend to be very superficial. Then there is the one minute of adverts before the review starts, only to get under 2 minutes of contect.
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a bit like top gear but failing miserably lol never really thought about it until you just said

Getting sick of all these comparisons

I don't really care if people kick up a fuss about this but I'm getting seriously sick of the constant comparison and poll threads between the One and the S4. The phones are really not very alike at all. People will buy which ever one they want and if they don't they're a ****ing moron for letting anyone brainwash them. And anyone who gets passionate enough to cry whenever someone says they don't like the phone you like is a total loser imo. It's a phone. Enjoy the one you have but you can't hate someone who likes something else.
Personally I think the One is phenomenal even compared to the S4. But does it really matter? We all know who will sell more. We all know which one we think is better.
It's been done. Get over it!
Oh and all this fanboy crap that people band about here is also utter tripe. I'm an HTC fan, is that so wrong? I don't give a crap what anyone else on here thinks. You don't know me or anyone else on here personally (maybe some do) so you can't begin to judge people really.
Anyway rant over. Let's just enjoy our new epic shiny toy and hope it does the trick for HTCs sales this year.
PS. Sorry mods for this post. Just getting pissed off of coming on here to more crying about 'my phones better' 'no my phones better and if you don't agree you're a moron and a fanboy' 'but mine has a **** extension button'. Blah blah blah!
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Fanboy-ism leads to brand loyalty and then lead to massive sales.
You want HTC to succeed?
Get the One, love the One, promote the One to your friends and family.
That's how Samsung succeeded.
Brilliant enthusiasts like us are the kickstarters to these companies successes.

All my friends and family who have played with my phone since friday want it and two of my friends were samsung fanboys and the others were deciding out of One, S4, XZ and have all chosen the one.

Livebyte said:
Fanboy-ism leads to brand loyalty and then lead to massive sales.
You want HTC to succeed?
Get the One, love the One, promote the One to your friends and family.
That's how Samsung succeeded.
Brilliant enthusiasts like us are the kickstarters to these companies successes.
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No Samsung succeeded through great marketing.
I will always show people my phone and let them play if they wish but honestly fanboyism will not lead to sales. HTC marketing team will lead to sales. A simple stunning TV advert would do.....
But regardless I think you missed the point of my post!
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You are buying a great phone regardless which one you pick.. HTC put their all into the "One" giving it the best design smartphone (my opinion)
The Galaxy S4 is a great phone too
it all comes down to whatever the user want.. you got fanboys-girls and then you got tech heads like me who buy both of the hottest phones out..
i do think Samsung has a better marketing plan than HTC does.. and you know how the consumer market work..
HTC spends more time and money in other countries on ads and TV commercial spots than in the US (from what i see)
HTC had a mini commercial movie spot in Japan for HTC Butterfly that was pretty neat and showed everything the phone could do.
HTC needs to do that everywhere like Samsung does

The War Horse said:
I don't really care if people kick up a fuss about this but I'm getting seriously sick of the constant comparison and poll threads between the One and the S4. The phones are really not very alike at all. People will buy which ever one they want and if they don't they're a ****ing moron for letting anyone brainwash them. And anyone who gets passionate enough to cry whenever someone says they don't like the phone you like is a total loser imo. It's a phone. Enjoy the one you have but you can't hate someone who likes something else.
Personally I think the One is phenomenal even compared to the S4. But does it really matter? We all know who will sell more. We all know which one we think is better.
It's been done. Get over it!
Oh and all this fanboy crap that people band about here is also utter tripe. I'm an HTC fan, is that so wrong? I don't give a crap what anyone else on here thinks. You don't know me or anyone else on here personally (maybe some do) so you can't begin to judge people really.
Anyway rant over. Let's just enjoy our new epic shiny toy and hope it does the trick for HTCs sales this year.
PS. Sorry mods for this post. Just getting pissed off of coming on here to more crying about 'my phones better' 'no my phones better and if you don't agree you're a moron and a fanboy' 'but mine has a **** extension button'. Blah blah blah!
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I completely agree with you. I'm okay with moderate comparisons but this is beyond madness ( on both the One forum and S IV forum). I think the mods should aggressively close all the dupe threads and keep one open on each forum.

I came from s2, s3. i just was waiting for the s4 announce to make my choice..i am tired of the same...my htc one will arrive soon.
i am sure that htc one will be the best 2013 smartphone
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The War Horse said:
I don't really care if people kick up a fuss about this but I'm getting seriously sick of the constant comparison and poll threads between the One and the S4.
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While I totally agree with what you're saying, a thread like this won't help matters to be honest. I'm not saying it'll make the situation worse, but it won't help either.
It's not as if comparing devices is a new concept among the XDA folk. It's always happened. Why? Well it's simple. People like to show off that their device/upcoming device is better than other flagship devices on the market/to be announced. Whether we like it or not, the S4 IS a flagship device and will undoubtedly sell more than the One so a lot of people from this forum are going to want to take any victory over Samsung that they can.
Even if the only aspect which the One "won" on was affordability, we'd still see similar threads along the lines of - "S4 is rubbish because it costs too much and the One is cheaper".
Want proof of this?
Wait for the next popular phone to get released and you'll see that exactly the same will happen, yet again.
As I said at the top of this post though, I do totally agree with you and think that no-one should be bothered what device someone else gets because it's clearly none of their business.
The need to compare things to other items seems to be becoming an ever present problem among human nature, unfortunately.
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I've owned every iPhone since day one. Diehard Apple fanboy. This is nothing new to me. Every time a new phone was released all the fanboys dubbed it the iPhone killer. Ugh - just learn to ignore it and make sensible, well-rounded decisions based on your own experiences and you'll be a much happier person. Lol - that's why, even after all these years, I'm here on XDA, reading every thread and dying to pick up the One! Can't wait!

Although the OP speaks out of my heart, I have to close this as off-topic. As you see when you read the thread. it again started to become a battleground of fanboys.

Samsung - inspired by nature.

You know how Samsung say they're inspired by nature? One thing's rather peculiar. I don't recall nature being bloated, ugly and sluggish. Or maybe they specifically mean stink bugs, ticks, weeds, etc.. Rather peculiar, don't you think?
'Tis a funny world we live in.

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You know how Samsung say they're inspired by nature? One thing's rather peculiar. I don't recall nature being bloated, ugly and sluggish. Or maybe they specifically mean stink bugs, ticks, weeds, etc.. Rather peculiar, don't you think?
'Tis a funny world we live in.
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Inspired by what comes out of a cows ar*e I think... ill never buy a samsung again I know that much
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This is the first and the last samsung phone, from now on i'm going with nexus.

My first Samsung phone, OEM wise. I had a Gnex before. This is, however, my very last Samsung device. EVER. I will never buy another Faildung device again. Deciding which phone will be my bext is hard, though, because I'm considering either the Xperia Z, HTC One or the next Nexus. Maybe not the HTC after all because I don't feel like messing with locked down bootloaders (unless they're nexii because it's a simple fastboot command to lock/unlock at your will)

Theshawty said:
My first Samsung phone, OEM wise. I had a Gnex before. This is, however, my very last Samsung device. EVER. I will never buy another Faildung device again. Deciding which phone will be my bext is hard, though, because I'm considering either the Xperia Z, HTC One or the next Nexus. Maybe not the HTC after all because I don't feel like messing with locked down bootloaders (unless they're nexii because it's a simple fastboot command to lock/unlock at your will)
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Yeah htc's are a bit*h man a mate of mine has a xperia z its a very very nice phone in my opinion
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Theshawty said:
........ Rather peculiar, don't you think?
'Tis a funny world we live in.
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Questions belong in Q&A

Theshawty said:
My first Samsung phone, OEM wise. I had a Gnex before. This is, however, my very last Samsung device. EVER. I will never buy another Faildung device again. Deciding which phone will be my bext is hard, though, because I'm considering either the Xperia Z, HTC One or the next Nexus. Maybe not the HTC after all because I don't feel like messing with locked down bootloaders (unless they're nexii because it's a simple fastboot command to lock/unlock at your will)
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Don't forget this site if you want an xperia z
http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/
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i agree to you guys..
samsung is crap. will never buy samsung again, NEVER.
you will only have problems with samsung, like the SDS.
Go with Iphone (no im not iphone fan or something, never owned one but friends got.)or with Nexus.
Software > Hardware

saprer said:
i agree to you guys..
samsung is crap. will never buy samsung again, NEVER.
you will only have problems with samsung, like the SDS.
Go with Iphone (no im not iphone fan or something, never owned one but friends got.)or with Nexus.
Software > Hardware
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"Software > Hardware"
Clearly not the case with iPhones, ^^

Inspired by nature, yeah right.
Two words: dog poo.
Its natural
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The Inspired by Nature thing was a huge marketing fail in my view.

Where is Glebun.. Waiting for him.. Shawty beware...
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zoot1 said:
Where is Glebun.. Waiting for him.. Shawty beware...
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Haha got the jaws theme tune in my head now
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I'm quite happy with my samsung. Had the S II before this S III and I guess I like the multitude of roms available. Sure, Samsung needs to get their Exynos sources out in the wild but even without them AOSP, Cyanogenmod and AOKP aren't that bad. Used those type of Roms for a while and never thought I would flash a Samsung based rom again... Until a few weeks ago. You could say there's alot of bloatware in the stock rom and you're absolutely right. On the other hand, some bloat is really "useful". For me personally I really like showing photos and videos directly on my TV without having to open a third party DLNA app. I like how easy it is to root and unroot everything back to stock. I like my external SD card, removable battery. I like how their phones feel in my hand. My girlfriend has an Xperia S and although I kinda like the design, it just doesn't feel right in the hand nor are the menu and back button easy to touch. I think the S4 with a Snapdragon or Exynos with sources will be the perfect phone. Gonna hold on to my S III for the time being or till I have one of my impulsive buying sprees.

Personally, I don't really "get" the Nature bit. Bit of a Marketing thing, differentiation and all that USP stuff.
I'm actually quite happy with the S3. I've a later one, mind. I've never had any funny reboots whatever firmware I used, never had any marks or cracks and the battery life on a Stock or Stock based ROM is rather good.
My primary likes are:
Good sound, great FM radio (I use this a lot due to a serious walking regime - I'm probably of a similar age to one of you other guys). The call quality and general signal sensitivity (GPS/FM/Cell/WiFi/BT) are really good. The notification LED is a real boon too - not having to wake the phone to see missed activity or see something come in during a meeting is fantastic.
The screen is truly oleophobic AND scratch-resistant - I hate screen protectors - they're hard to fit properly and look sh1t quickly.
They hold their value well if looked after cosmetically.
In a word then it is reliable - and eminently modifiable.
The things I dislike are:
The screen is just not bright enough outside even without direct sunlight. Hopelessly dim. This is the biggy for me - walking whilst outside and trying to read anything is just a joke.
The Samsung software is cobbled together, and feels so. Fortunately I remove most of it, but the core is still there... and their non-open source approach and lack of engagement with their development community is a "shame".
A soft gel case is a necessity or you will drop it. I never have. Touch wood.
The accessories supplied are 2nd rate. Belies the cost of the phone.
Replacing the screen and digitizer as a unit (the only real way to do it) is f.expensive (I did a mate's - £150)
I would buy another Samsung, I had the SGS2 and that was good for its time too. My wife's 2 yo Omnia 7 is also reliable and she has had no issues with that either. My eldest daughter's Xperia S has started losing pixels. My youngest daughter's HTC ONE S is totally stock and has randomly rebooted from new for no obvious reason. And this is the 4th Amazon BNIB replacement. It looks like crap too after a few weeks as the black finish is brittle.
Problem is, what else is there?
S4 - unknown quantity (might not have an FM Radio, might be Snapdragon or not), £600 and being an early adopter means beta tester.
HTC ONE - even if you can get hold of one, too early to tell if they are reliable or durable and the modding potential is not great.
Nexus 4 - No FM radio and LG not the world's best phone designer
Sony Z - good but odd in the hand and screen dim - massive development potential though thanks to Sony.
LG Optimus G - not readily available, too expensive, no FM radio and no development community and Billy Bland.
Note 2 - get real. S3 on acid with a silly stick, has its own identity crisis.
I would like the OPPO Find 5 - but not available and may not have an FM Radio or LED notification. Or development potential. I have an OPPO Blu-Ray player that is utterly fantastic. For those that remember, like a Nakamichi tape deck style quality.

zoot1 said:
Where is Glebun.. Waiting for him.. Shawty beware...
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right here! Where was I? Right.. This kind of stuff should be in the General thread, that's what it's for

Glebun said:
right here! Where was I? Right.. This kind of stuff should be in the General thread, that's what it's for
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Well! You won't get an argument from me..
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Glebun said:
right here! Where was I? Right.. This kind of stuff should be in the General thread, that's what it's for
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Better late than never

Glebun said:
right here! Where was I? Right.. This kind of stuff should be in the General thread, that's what it's for
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With the current discussions going on in the general thread (eels, lube, etc.) I don't think many dare entering, or even stay after they've entered so I thought I'd liven the place up a bit.

slaphead20 said:
Better late than never
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Your location reminds me of my favorite Orbital song!