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[Q] How do I flash a kernel?

Hi, new here and kind of an android noob, I would like to know how to flash a kernel to my epic 4g, if it requires root, if I need to first flash a non-stock recovery, and if flashing a custom kernel will give me root if it does not first require it. If a similar question has been submitted and answered prior to this date then assist me in becoming aware to its presence if you would not mind.
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Jae4prez said:
Hi, new here and kind of an android noob, I would like to know how to flash a kernel to my epic 4g, if it requires root, if I need to first flash a non-stock recovery, and if flashing a custom kernel will give me root if it does not first require it. If a similar question has been submitted and answered prior to this date then assist me in becoming aware to its presence if you would not mind.
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The easiest way is to start with a custom recovery (non-stock) that will let you flash another kernel or rom: start here (you do not need root to flash this custom recovery )
A lot of the custom roms/kernels have root built in- if not it is simple to use the one click stickied to the top of the dev forum- good luck

Thank you very much jimmyz, you answered my questions with great proficiency.
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[request] Full rooting guide for the SGS2

Hello and welcoming myself to this new community of SGS 2 users. Coming from the HTC Desire section, I am quite confounded (entirely my own fault, of course) by the sheer confusion between the "Original Development" and the, uh, "Derivative Development" sections. More on that later, but...
Now what's REALLY confusing me is the complete lack of a start to finish rooting guide, or even a CWM guide for the SGS2 in the forum. Does anyone around have good link, and also where should I go to for my first ROM? Any ideas?

Go for the big well-known roms to start. VillainROM, Cognition or Lightning Rom. They all have tutorials to flash the specific roms when coming from stock.
I came from the Desire too, the weird thing about the SGS2 is that you flash roms that have the root installed in there. So you flash a rom with a rooted kernel inside of it, your phone is rooted. Change the kernel only to a stock one, root is gone.
So check the rom threads.

prodygee said:
Go for the big well-known roms to start. VillainROM, Cognition or Lightning Rom. They all have tutorials to flash the specific roms when coming from stock.
I came from the Desire too, the weird thing about the SGS2 is that you flash roms that have the root installed in there. So you flash a rom with a rooted kernel inside of it, your phone is rooted. Change the kernel only to a stock one, root is gone.
So check the rom threads.
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Ah... so... er... how do I get CWM inside? I saw the VillainROM thread and it says I need CWM inside before I can begin...

sakai4eva said:
Ah... so... er... how do I get CWM inside? I saw the VillainROM thread and it says I need CWM inside before I can begin...
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start by flashing cf-root kernel via ODIN. instructions are in chainfire's cf-root thread.

Nitrile said:
start by flashing cf-root kernel via ODIN. instructions are in chainfire's cf-root thread.
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Alright. Thanks for that.

i guess this might help you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
also here is a good collection of shipped roms and another rooting guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
i used the latter to root my phone yesterday, a first for me, since this is my first android phone, and it worked at once and it took less than 10 minutes till i was up and running again.

Why don’t we all take a breather and don't mistreat the newbie..I mean the new user.
Don't make me get on my high horse....it won't be pretty
Cheers,

As MTM said, take a couple of breaths and learn how to be nice to your fellow forum members. Next person to be disrespectful will earn a temporary ban. You have been warned.

It took me a while to get up to speed with the way things are here too.
The usual steps would be:
- download a stock rom
- flash cf-root
- choose your custom rom
From here onwards, its an ocean of info.

byobodybag said:
It took me a while to get up to speed with the way things are here too.
The usual steps would be:
- download a stock rom
- flash cf-root
- choose your custom rom
From here onwards, its an ocean of info.
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Yeah... getting up to speed here is a little difficult. I came from the HTC Desire, so I was pampered, of sorts, by the fullness of guides there.

willverduzco said:
As MTM said, take a couple of breaths and learn how to be nice to your fellow forum members. Next person to be disrespectful will earn a temporary ban. You have been warned.
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Did the disrespectful posts vanish or did I just not get it ?
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norpan111 said:
Did the disrespectful posts vanish or did I just not get it ?
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It disappeared.

sakai4eva said:
Yeah... getting up to speed here is a little difficult. I came from the HTC Desire, so I was pampered, of sorts, by the fullness of guides there.
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There are no pretty guides because , its so extremely easy to root SGS2 , all you do is flash "cf kernel with CWM" via ODIN = done you rooted
Then you have CWM recovery and you can flash any SGS2 ROM. No need for any hacks or exploits.

ghost77 said:
There are no pretty guides because , its so extremely easy to root SGS2 , all you do is flash "cf kernel with CWM" via ODIN = done you rooted
Then you have CWM recovery and you can flash any SGS2 ROM. No need for any hacks or exploits.
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I was confounded by the mere mention of ODIN. Apparently, everybody knew where to download/get it and how to use it but nobody provided a link. I sorted that out anyway.
I had to appreciate the relative openness of Samsung vs. HTC at this point

sakai4eva said:
Hello and welcoming myself to this new community of SGS 2 users. Coming from the HTC Desire section, I am quite confounded (entirely my own fault, of course) by the sheer confusion between the "Original Development" and the, uh, "Derivative Development" sections. More on that later, but...
Now what's REALLY confusing me is the complete lack of a start to finish rooting guide, or even a CWM guide for the SGS2 in the forum. Does anyone around have good link, and also where should I go to for my first ROM? Any ideas?
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Welcome to the sgsii forums! I hope more and more people jump on the international bandwagon. I came from the samsung captivate forums so this wasn't that big of a difference. I think over time this forum will get better and more organized, as it's still relatively new.
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Haha, thanks! Been missing the warmth of the Desire section

Root with Odin

I've seen a lot of threads about Odin and recently rooted my friend's Droid Charge. I had flawless results and another friend who wants his Samsung Fascinate rooted and a custom ROM installed.
I greatly enjoyed using the Odin software and I am wondering if I follow the instructions on this thread (switching out for a Fascinate compatible Odin rom of course) I will get the same result on the Fascinate as I did on the Charge?
Otherwise if that one won't work, I am specifically interested in a root using Odin thread for the Fascinate (I did search but haven't had much luck with it.). Thought I would ask the experts

BrettKoster said:
I've seen a lot of threads about Odin and recently rooted my friend's Droid Charge. I had flawless results and another friend who wants his Samsung Fascinate rooted and a custom ROM installed.
I greatly enjoyed using the Odin software and I am wondering if I follow the instructions on this thread (switching out for a Fascinate compatible Odin rom of course) I will get the same result on the Fascinate as I did on the Charge?
Otherwise if that one won't work, I am specifically interested in a root using Odin thread for the Fascinate (I did search but haven't had much luck with it.). Thought I would ask the experts
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yes pretty much works the same... fyi for future reference please post your questions in the q&a section. You will get more responses there.

Thanks I had not thought about the Q&A forum, I will keep that in mind for next time!

BrettKoster said:
Thanks I had not thought about the Q&A forum, I will keep that in mind for next time!
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No problem... here is a good thread for rooting your phone!
http://www.galaxyforums.net/forum/fascinate-rs-guides/1967-how-root-froyo-gingerbread-your-fascinate.html

How do I proceed from here?

A while back when ICS was first leaked, I flashed it.
My A500 is not rooted or unlocked or anything. It was completely stock HC.
Whatever it was that I flashed, I was able to flash using the built-in recovery tool.
Under Settings, it says this:
Image version: Acer_AV041_A500_RV05RC01_PA_CUS1
Build number: Acer_AV01_A500_1.033.00_PA_CUS1
Now all the threads I'm reading about flashing newer roms says I have to be on GEN1 first. Searching for PA_CUS1 doesn't give me any results.
What do I do, where do I go, what can I flash from where I am now?
And pointers would be greatly appreciated.

this is not a forum for questions. should have posted this in Q&A forums buddy

mythek88 said:
this is not a forum for questions. should have posted this in Q&A forums buddy
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Thought about that, but this question is specifically about what this forum is designed for. No? Regardless, a mod can move this thread if they feel necessary. But thanks for taking the time to post. I think.

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i think your on the first build of ics, have a look for the root method and see if you can root the rom your running, if successive i would then recommend you try using the flexreaper extreem v5.1 the latest and greatest from civato ,
if you reply ill try to help more in-depth but i just got back from a engagement party and its 3:30 am sooooooo...u know
note: im so luving the new :highfive: highfive emoticon :laugh::highfive::highfive::highfive:

[Q] Which Loki Method to use??

I have noticed there is a bunch of loki methods floating around, and I for one would like some confusion cleared... which loki method should i use? or what do they depend on? and does it matter which rom i am flashing? Or do they all work?
FYI I am on a Bell I337M Version
1. ShappyPengiuns [RECOVERY] SGH-I337 OUDHS Recovery 1.0.3.4 - now with auto-loki
2. KToonsez [KERNEL] KT-SGS4-TW-JB
3. Loki-Doki [FLASHABLE FIX]

A simple search would answer these questions. You are not AT&T and you are not Verizon...are you sure you even need Loki?
Read...Read...Read.

It's not that hard.
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They are correct READ, they all work, just find the one that works for you. It is not hard. agreed!

If you have root then just go to Play and install GooManager and let it install TWRP recovery which has Loki built in now.
My understanding is if you need it its there and if you don't it wont matter.
Edit: My understanding was wrong! I think its the other recovery that will, but dont count on it until you verify yourself.

TheAxman said:
They are correct READ, they all work, just find the one that works for you. It is not hard. agreed!
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FireRaider said:
If you have root then just go to Play and install GooManager and let it install TWRP recovery which has Loki built in now.
My understanding is if you need it its there and if you don't it wont matter.
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To reiterate what Scott already pointed out, the OP is on Bell. Loki doesn't even apply to him.
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FireRaider said:
If you have root then just go to Play and install GooManager and let it install TWRP recovery which has Loki built in now.
My understanding is if you need it its there and if you don't it wont matter.
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Twrp does not have auto loki. You still have to flash a kernel or loki doki.

Tough Crowd OP
But, they are right and looking out for you.
Need to read more than the OP pages on this, if you haven't.
Most of the threads are short enough still to scan whole thread.
At least read first/last 20 pages, don't want to lose a great phone
Also, if you don't normally do it--back up phone an sdcard regular--put copies on PC.

rfb813 said:
Twrp does not have auto loki. You still have to flash a kernel or loki doki.
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Right you are sir. Damn good thing I cant get anything to download right now anyway. I think to much reading has made all the threads run together in my head. I will edit that earlier reply to avoid the continuing confusion.

rugmankc said:
Tough Crowd OP
But, they are right and looking out for you.
Need to read more than the OP pages on this, if you haven't.
Most of the threads are short enough still to scan whole thread.
At least read first/last 20 pages, don't want to lose a great phone
Also, if you don't normally do it--back up phone an sdcard regular--put copies on PC.
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Lol tough crowd indeed, but its tough love and helps to learn, thank u everyone for the answers, no need to Loki on bell Canada, and I can't believe that I can flash just about any s4 rom (except i900 roms) its amazing, so many roms to choose from
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bobbydigital222 said:
Lol tough crowd indeed, but its tough love and helps to learn, thank u everyone for the answers, no need to Loki on bell Canada, and I can't believe that I can flash just about any s4 rom (except i900 roms) its amazing, so many roms to choose from
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Like me, I would have just posted a thread too. Sometimes its annoying to search and read through all the crap. Lol talking about life and shet. 7ulu 3an ayre

Billmog said:
Like me, I would have just posted a thread too. Sometimes its annoying to search and read through all the crap. Lol talking about life and shet. 7ulu 3an ayre
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Derp
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jd1639 said:
Derp
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sorry, quoting wrong person here...
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Billmog said:
Like me, I would have just posted a thread too. Sometimes its annoying to search and read through all the crap. Lol talking about life and shet. 7ulu 3an ayre
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Say what? here is hint for searching, type in the exact phrase (words) to search for, it works. searching this "shet. 7ulu 3an ayre" will yield you no results.
No the problem is, it is easier to get on a post a please help walk me thru it.
Un-locked bootloader means no loki for you!

rfb813 said:
Twrp does not have auto loki. You still have to flash a kernel or loki doki.
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So LokiDoki does waht after you flash a ROM? Is it the ROM that gets Loki'd or it seeks out the actual Kernel thats installed by the ROM?
Thanks for your insight?
I ask because some say if you have a loki'd kernal the ROM doesnt matter.

There is a loki thread in original development that finally helped an old fart like me understand--
good info

igotroot said:
So LokiDoki does waht after you flash a ROM? Is it the ROM that gets Loki'd or it seeks out the actual Kernel thats installed by the ROM?
Thanks for your insight?
I ask because some say if you have a loki'd kernal the ROM doesnt matter.
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If you use a loki kernel everytime you flash a rom, it will work.