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[how-to] flash ics easily

i dono why. i don understand at all. why do we need to flash this, reboot, flash this and that, and then flast this......
come on! i am now in LP5 by just flashing the factoryfs and zImage, followed by a wipe and that's all!! why do we need to care about the boot loader? and why to concern about to repartition it or not? pls, do it your way. flashing a rom is only a file copy process!!
i respect all ppls' work. but for me, i prefer to let the user happy by flashing a rom or finishing a task in one single step.

New installation steps for ICS Stunner @ Stunner Topic. Much Simple.
These steps didn't work for LP1 based ROM and it broke root previously.

ykk_five said:
i dono why. i don understand at all. why do we need to flash this, reboot, flash this and that, and then flast this......
come on! i am now in LP5 by just flashing the factoryfs and zImage, followed by a wipe and that's all!! why do we need to care about the boot loader? and why to concern about to repartition it or not? pls, do it your way. flashing a rom is only a file copy process!!
i respect all ppls' work. but for me, i prefer to let the user happy by flashing a rom or finishing a task in one single step.
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My understanding is that If you flash the bootloader you will risk bricking your phone also no way to revert back to GB.

Does your simple way preserve root and allow for an easy way back to GB? If it does could you provide some simple, fool-proof instructions? Thanks.

We're finally seeing developers include kernel and modem files in their ROMS, so it's getting easier...before it was, "flash this base, reboot, wipe, flash this base, reboot, flash this base, flash it again and reboot, flash my ROM 2x, reboot 2x, enjoy. Repeat from beginning if you messed up." Okay, so a little over the top, but that's what it felt like to me. I'm definitely happy with the progress being made!

actually all i wanted is to push the rom makers to go a step further, by telling them that even by just flashing the zimage and system will do so they should provide proper script to run the installation automatically. i am glad to see the procedures become simplier. but on the other hand i hope ppl will pay more time to prepare the installation steps and be user friendly

Lance Uppercut said:
Does your simple way preserve root and allow for an easy way back to GB? If it does could you provide some simple, fool-proof instructions? Thanks.
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root permissions can be retained or restored. back to gb is totally possible. it all depends on the rom makers to make it or not

daraj said:
My understanding is that If you flash the bootloader you will risk bricking your phone also no way to revert back to GB.
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thats why i mentioned no need to care about the bootloader, i mean no need
to flash the bootloader.

Why is this post in development? =/
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Narada2XK said:
Why is this post in development? =/
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That's way beyond me, mate.

chasmodo said:
That's way beyond me, mate.
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LOL.As always spot on

Narada2XK said:
Why is this post in development? =/
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what do u think this post is about?
should all development related posts contain tangible things and downloads but not thoughts nor ideas? if so, then fine

ykk_five said:
should all development related posts contain tangible things and downloads but not thoughts nor ideas? if so, then fine
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I can take esoteric musings as well as the next guy, but do they have to be posted here? I mean, really?

chasmodo said:
I can take esoteric musings as well as the next guy, but do they have to be posted here? I mean, really?
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to be frank, it depends
if i'm not for the good of the users, i wont post anything

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321268
That explains why you are in the wrong forum.
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btyork said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321268
That explains why you are in the wrong forum.
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thx btyork
but could it be a GUIDE to tell ppl it is safe to flash the ics, or a FIX to the previous installation?
i want to sort it out too and i'll send pm to the mods to seek advise

Doesn't the factoryfs include the bootloader? (Sbl) Or did I mis something?

hkgrob said:
Doesn't the factoryfs include the bootloader? (Sbl) Or did I mis something?
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no, the factoryfs only contains /system

ykk_five said:
thx btyork
but could it be a GUIDE to tell ppl it is safe to flash the ics, or a FIX to the previous installation?
i want to sort it out too and i'll send pm to the mods to seek advise
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It could be... But it's neither.
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[Q] Roms

I am thinking about flashing a rom with a custom kernel. Can any of you guys give me some insight on which rom would be the best. i have Rooted using auto root twrp custom recovery software mdl

E-420 said:
I am thinking about flashing a rom with a custom kernel. Can any of you guys give me some insight on which rom would be the best. i have Rooted using auto root twrp custom recovery software mdl
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I don't think it's allowed to ask "What is the best" questions since it starts a lot of arguing here on XDA, but this thread should help narrow your search, once you've identified what you are looking for in a rom. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2303917

MHousos said:
I don't think it's allowed to ask "What is the best" questions since it starts a lot of arguing here on XDA, but this thread should help narrow your search, once you've identified what you are looking for in a rom. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2303917
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Its allowed its just not going to be answered by facts only opinions
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Questions go in Q&A
And all ROMs are the best. Read each and you will see
No one can tell you which is best for YOU but YOU

[Q] what custom Recoveries are out there for the i337m so far?

the question pretty much is self explanatory, i would like know what Recoveries are out there so far for i337m other than the basic CWM and TWRP
EDIT: I made a goof when i posted this thread i meant recoveries not kernels.

Buddyjohn said:
the question pretty much is self explanatory, i would like know what kernels are out there so far for i337m other than the basic CWM and TWRP.
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Well first, CWM and TWRP are NOT kernels, but recoveries, sir, you are in serious trouble if you do not figure out what you are asking....
start here for sure...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
then if you have questions, feel free to ask.

TheAxman said:
Well first, CWM and TWRP are NOT kernels, but recoveries, sir, you are in serious trouble if you do not figure out what you are asking....
start here for sure...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
then if you have questions, feel free to ask, someone will be by to visit you here shortly.
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oh wow, you are right i did mean recovery, lately i have been reading up so much about kernels i mistakenly got mixed up between the two. I do know the difference i have been flashing custom roms and recoveries for a while now, sorry about my mix up.

Buddyjohn said:
oh wow, you are right i did mean recovery, lately i have been reading up so much about kernels i mistakenly got mixed up between the two. I do know the difference i have been flashing custom roms and recoveries for a while now, sorry about my mix up.
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If you have been reading, then be careful. I noticed you are on the Canadian variant, your kernels are the ones you need to run, I have them in my guide here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2295557
also edit your post to reflect the correct info you are requesting...
Good Luck.

TheAxman said:
If you have been reading, then be careful. I noticed you are on the Canadian variant, your kernels are the ones you need to run, I have them in my guide here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2295557
also edit your post to reflect the correct info you are requesting...
Good Luck.
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i edited it.
i also know i am on the Canadian variant and have paid close attention to it, i also know how to recover from bricking my phone, i have done it with a few of my previous devices. i am not necessarily a noob to all this i just learned by trial and error mostly until i figured out how to do proper research. this kernel/recovery mix up was just a brain fart moment.

[Q] Custom ROM

hey yall, ok so im bit confused with all the recovery and lokid and stuff on gs4-----was so simple to root and install roms for gs2/gs3
can anyone please tell me the simplest way to install custom rom on gs4?
im have rooted my GS4 with motochopper, can i just download the ROM zip--go to recovery and install??
i also noticed there is no backup/restore option into recovery but thats fine i will return to stock using odin

desichiko23 said:
hey yall, ok so im bit confused with all the recovery and lokid and stuff on gs4-----was so simple to root and install roms for gs2/gs3
can anyone please tell me the simplest way to install custom rom on gs4?
im have rooted my GS4 with motochopper, can i just download the ROM zip--go to recovery and install??
i also noticed there is no backup/restore option into recovery but thats fine i will return to stock using odin
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Lets use this great guide, simple. You will be up and understanding after this, I assure you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314494
Thanks to xBeerdroiDx - leave a thanks for his effort.
The Ax says Good luck and good day!

If there is no backup/restore option than you are in stock recovery and won't be able to flash anything anyways. Please visit the I337 guide in my signature for the next steps after obtaining root. Cheers

We really should get you and Ax's guides/how to's stickied. They are great. If guide has no post for a day or two they get pushed down list. And folks may not see them as not everyone searches well.
I know Ax wasn't interested, but maybe we can get him to change his mind
How about it Kenny--

Without hi-jacking this gentleman's thread...sorry OP.
The reason I do not want a sticky, is if you are on a cell phone and doing xda, you have to physically use the stickies button, and there went half the traffic, that is having to use an extra step for non-readers, an extra step is disastrous. You know, to much work.
Now if you have a solution, I am all for it!
The Ax's opinion only!

TheAxman said:
Without hi-jacking this gentleman's thread...sorry OP.
The reason I do not want a sticky, is if you are on a cell phone and doing xda, you have to physically use the stickies button, and there went half the traffic, that is having to use an extra step for non-readers, an extra step is disastrous. You know, to much work.
Now if you have a solution, I am all for it!
The Ax's opinion only!
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Gotcha--Maybe Kenny does--just a lot of good info not to have "in your face" at top of thread
On tapatalk 4 beta paid app it works fine. I did install xda free just see it and see what you mean. Thought they mirrored each other, guess not.
Yes, back to OT

xBeerdroiDx said:
If there is no backup/restore option than you are in stock recovery and won't be able to flash anything anyways. Please visit the I337 guide in my signature for the next steps after obtaining root. Cheers
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ok so i done all the steps and it seems all went well EXCEPT so i think, after doing CASUAL Process should i have done anything? because now i dont have custom logo with unlock logo when i boot the device
and also i tried to install LiquidROM but it says fail--something about i need to install supersu?

desichiko23 said:
ok so i done all the steps and it seems all went well EXCEPT so i think, after doing CASUAL Process should i have done anything? because now i dont have custom logo with unlock logo when i boot the device
and also i tried to install LiquidROM but it says fail--something about i need to install supersu?
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Sounds to me you don't have root. If you don't have SU in the apps, your not rooted, and if it is asking you to install SU, you are not rooted...the way I use to check root is terminal emulator from the market, run that, and at the prompt type SU, if it says command not found, you are not rooted.
You want a little advice...you need to flash a TW rom first, get used to whats going on, then go for the complicated roms.
The Ax says....again my suggestion only!
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rugmankc said:
Gotcha--Maybe Kenny does--just a lot of good info not to have "in your face" at top of thread
On tapatalk 4 beta paid app it works fine. I did install xda free just see it and see what you mean. Thought they mirrored each other, guess not.
Yes, back to OT
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So are you saying when you go into this forum you see the sticky's right off?

TheAxman said:
Sounds to me you don't have root. If you don't have SU in the apps, your not rooted, and if it is asking you to install SU, you are not rooted...the way I use to check root is terminal emulator from the market, run that, and at the prompt type SU, if it says command not found, you are not rooted.
You want a little advice...you need to flash a TW rom first, get used to whats going on, then go for the complicated roms.
The Ax says....again my suggestion only!
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So are you saying when you go into this forum you see the sticky's right off?
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Not right off, I open XDA app go to my Favorites, this Forum obviously, open General Section and Stickies are a choice at top along with Topics and Announce. I just don't see the issue vs having your great Guides/How To's available. I think most folks on the app or tapatalk are experienced and know for the most part what they are doing. But, the noobies will be on the pc and see the Threads quicker if Stickied. IMHO Sir
On Tapatalk they are there at top right off--

desichiko23 said:
can i just download the ROM zip--go to recovery and install??
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Make sure that it's a custom recovery.
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Root question

I want to root my phone, the s4 as listed below. I am new to android but I think I understand how to root it. My concern is that there is no recovery. I am not sure what that means. Does that mean that one cannot unroot or does that mean that if you install a Custom rom that there is no going back? Or, does it mean something else? Thank you.
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thehoz said:
I want to root my phone, the s4 as listed below. I am new to android but I think I understand how to root it. My concern is that there is no recovery. I am not sure what that means. Does that mean that one cannot unroot or does that mean that if you install a Custom rom that there is no going back? Or, does it mean something else? Thank you.
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I think you do not understand how to root if there is no recovery. keep researching. you're a long way from safely rooting your phone.

OP, if your S4 is on the MF3 firmware then look around in the general and q&a sections. there's some material there that will point you in the right direction.
in short, if you are on MF3, you can root only (which i advise against for beginners as there currently is no recovery option). cheers

thehoz said:
I want to root my phone, the s4 as listed below. I am new to android but I think I understand how to root it. My concern is that there is no recovery. I am not sure what that means. Does that mean that one cannot unroot or does that mean that if you install a Custom rom that there is no going back? Or, does it mean something else? Thank you.
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Why do you want to root your phone when you don't even understand what it is you want to do?

scott14719 said:
Why do you want to root your phone when you don't even understand what it is you want to do?
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My question wasn't "what can I do with root?" I wanted to know if it was possible to "unroot" which apparently it is not yet. I would want to root to be able to get more out of titanium backup and Tasker as well as block ads. But thanks for the help.
And yes, I am on MF3. I had root on the prior os and I had to unroot to get the MF3 update which had features I wanted. I just don't know the proper terms I guess. I don't know what a recovery is. To unroot before, I had the two files I needed to delete. I foget what they are. I am sure you guys know. I used to always have my iOS jailbroken. I didn't need to understand too much about it. I could just follow instructions and jailbreak. It was too easy to unjailbreak.
Last time I rooted, it was easy. The unrooting was nerve-wracking because I couldn't get the update I wanted without it. I've read how to root now... Again I can follow directions. It just wasn't clear that you can't unroot until a recovery is is out there. I thought maybe a recovery was needed if you used a custom rom. I just wanted to use the stock rom and unroot if I wanted to.
Again, I'm not a hacker, just a user that wants more and not a whole lot of time to learn all the in and outs.
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thehoz said:
My question wasn't "what can I do with root?" I wanted to know if it was possible to "unroot" which apparently it is not yet. I would want to root to be able to get more out of titanium backup and Tasker as well as block ads. But thanks for the help.
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I suggest you do a little more research. There is a thread with a method to unroot that multiple people have claimed works with MF3. Of course, you never said what firmware you have...and it does make a difference. But honestly, don't take the advice if you think you don't need it and do what you want Good luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432876
Try it at your own risk.

scott14719 said:
I suggest you do a little more research. There is a thread with a method to unroot that multiple people have claimed works with MF3. Of course, you never said what firmware you have...and it does make a difference. But honestly, don't take the advice if you think you don't need it and do what you want Good luck.
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I appreciate the advice to keep looking. I'll try to find the thread you mention.
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thehoz said:
I appreciate the advice to keep looking. I'll try to find the thread you mention.
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I edited my post above to include it.

scott14719 said:
I edited my post above to include it.
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Thank you very much!
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thehoz said:
My question wasn't "what can I do with root?" I wanted to know if it was possible to "unroot" which apparently it is not yet. I would want to root to be able to get more out of titanium backup and Tasker as well as block ads. But thanks for the help.
And yes, I am on MF3. I had root on the prior os and I had to unroot to get the MF3 update which had features I wanted. I just don't know the proper terms I guess. I don't know what a recovery is. To unroot before, I had the two files I needed to delete. I foget what they are. I am sure you guys know. I used to always have my iOS jailbroken. I didn't need to understand too much about it. I could just follow instructions and jailbreak. It was too easy to unjailbreak.
Last time I rooted, it was easy. The unrooting was nerve-wracking because I couldn't get the update I wanted without it. I've read how to root now... Again I can follow directions. It just wasn't clear that you can't unroot until a recovery is is out there. I thought maybe a recovery was needed if you used a custom rom. I just wanted to use the stock rom and unroot if I wanted to.
Again, I'm not a hacker, just a user that wants more and not a whole lot of time to learn all the in and outs.
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You were right, recovery is used to flash custom ROM, back up and restore ROM; but there is no recovery for MF3.
If you just want to use Titanium Backup, adblock then root is enough. And you can unroot.

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