I want to upgrade my phone by purchasing this one, and I wonder if this device with a Custom ROM and JB tweaks works with zero lag.
I'm stuck with this or a S3.
Do you guys recommend me one Galaxy Nexus?
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I had the galaxy nexus. It was okay but I definitely felt the old hardware in day to day performance. I would go for the nexus 4. It's pretty much future proof of 2 years or so. As for custom rom there are really good ones here.
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It will be fine since I will use it for app development and gaming.
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I was mainly deciding between a Nexus 4 and a used S3 (since they can be had for 200$), I ended up getting a Nexus 4 from the carrier due to the monthly payment of 17$ for 24 months (basically for the 16GB model which I could have gotten direct from google for 350$, I'm paying bout ~60 interest for basically a loan when you think bout it).
Namely for two reasons.
1) It's nearly impossible to hard-brick, and just as easy to unlock (though an S3 wouldn't be that difficult either)
2) Google will continue to provide OS updates for it at the very least for the next 2 maybe 3 years if you want AOSP or any roms based on AOSP.
Reasons I considered the S3:
- Longer battery life (both phones have a 2100mAh battery, but the S3's battery can be user-replaced)
- Can be had decently lower price used (~200-250 since the S4 is out now)
- Has a microSD slot, so could pop in a 64GB micro-SD card
- higher megapixel user-side camera (1.9MP vs 1.3MP)
- will support USB-OTG (Nexus4 will not and it's not capable of it on the hardware level).
I'm somewhat new to the Nexus4 itself, but so far with the custom rom SlimBean I've had zero lag, and short of google wallet (probably rom related, I resolved it with titanium backup), I haven't had a problem yet.
to me nexus devices are the only ones that i have ever had where i don't need to use a custom rom its already stock and using custom ones generally add features which i for don't really use or want.
easy to root, and with a custom kernel its truly an amzaing device.
having said that if you want smooth, this is about as smooth as any other device out atm HOWEVER android is going to get a massive speed (and potentially battery) boost with the next android version due to changes in the UX rendering system and limiting draw calls.
so the nexus 4 can only get better imo.
but if you can hold out till novemeber maybe wait for the the new nexus and a hardware boost (and probably a 1080p screen)
A custom ROM gives more speed, but with stock is enough? No lags?
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A custom ROM gives more speed, but with stock is enough? No lags?
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Stock on Google devices are about as slimmed down as you can get of any stock devices, I know plenty of people who are happy with stock-rooted.
Custom roms can do a lot of things not just speed.
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Stability and speed I expect for the ROMS for this device.
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Stability and speed I expect for the ROMS for this device.
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Development is rather strong for nexus devices.
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Anyone thinking of jumping over to the lg nexus when it get announced?
Soon our beloved nexus s will be 2 years old and will really start to show it's age
I'm 80% sure I'll be getting the new nexus
Quad core s4 pro is a beast
2gb ram
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Got my nexus a few months ago on a 2 year contract.
I'll be getting the new nexus. I'm actually really excited about it. I know LG had a bad reputation as fat as maintaining and keeping things up to date, but Google will be handling that, so no worries.
Being a Nexus rooting and unlocking should be easy.
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I want it! Thinking about it hard! Form factor us a huge issue for me. I feel that the phone will be to big tbh. I miss the perfect size that the current nexus has.
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Yes I want it just hope Sprint get it & doesn't take months to sell it or I may get the Note 2 or skip them both & wait for next year phones with 1080p HD screens & arm cortex A-15 CPU I want Exynos 5250 with Mali-T 604 GPU they say this dual core chip is 2x faster than tegra 3!!!
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Really just depends on the battery for me. Two things I don't care for with my current Nexus S 4G is the camera and the small battery. Other than that it's a helluva device. Camera im sure will be better its just the battery im hoping gets a beastly upgrade. Tired of pluging my phone in whenever I want to use it and having to turn off data / jump through hoops or just plain not using my phone to get through a full day.
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I'll probably move on either to the Galaxy Nexus or whatever Google's new pure Android offering is; I'm not committing to anything until I see my options in their final release state.
I'm sticking with the Nexus line for sure...
Whatever is available and appealing to me at the time of my upgrade (in April 2013) is what I'll switch to. I imagine there will be another Nexus device out by then, if things go the way I've been reading about. We'll see.
I'm 99.99% sure that I'll be getting the LG Nexus.
Depending in the price for the unlocked ... maybe!!
It looks pretty good.
I'm 99% sure I'll get it, unless they seriously **** it up.
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Either that or the optimus g. 13 mp camera sounds nice on the optimus..I love nexus though. I've had no problems really.
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Early upgrade available so I'll be all over that. The note 2 was on the cards but the rumours started...... and. The rest is history.
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Apparently there will be a black and white model. Which would you get?
Nexus S (GSM i9020a)
AOKP (Build 5 - 4.1.2)
Matrix Kernel (23.5 - CFS)
Ondemmand (Screen On) (800/100)
Ondemmand (Screen Off) (400/100)
Deep Idle (N/A - Deadline)
BLX (N/A - Inverted Apps)
Black Exodus (Stock Voltage)
White sometimes discolours and looks dirty a black one would be my choice
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I'll be getting the next Nexus phone (unlocked), but not the one by LG, as they are horrible in supporting/updating their devices (according to my co-worker, who owns an LG G2X).
im going to wait few months untill the price drop down 30% or more
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I'll be getting the next Nexus phone (unlocked), but not the one by LG, as they are horrible in supporting/updating their devices (according to my co-worker, who owns an LG G2X).
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Yea but the lg nexus is a Google phone... it'll be updated by Google so no worry on lg updating stuff
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If it looks good and has the s4 pro and 2gb ram I'm sold
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I want something new and I want it to be a nexus so maybe. Both the galaxy nexus and lg nexus look too big for my hands, but something has to give as I push my nexus s too hard. My phone reboots itself once a day or more with both stock JB and CM 10.
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Alright so to start off I am looking to buy a tablet for my dad for Christmas and have been to a couple stores looking at various tablets and must say I am not to impressed with screen responsiveness on TW. Pinch to show screen previews lags a good amount on tab 2 and note 2 from what I saw. The smoothness overall just left something to be desired. My question is would I be better off getting a nexus 7 and tossing on a custom ROM or getting the nexus 10 and keeping stock. I realize I could put a ROM on nexus 10 without problem, but I would rather not risk breaking a $400 gift. The nexus 7 at only $200 and being developed for a year means I will certainly mess with it. Sorry to ramble. So in your opinion would it be better to get a nexus 7 with a custom ROM or nexus 10 that will stay stock. Thanks for your time
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well it depends the nexus 7 is more portable and cheaper then the nexus 10 but the nexus 10 does have better specs but the nexus 7 is more than enough for most people so i'd get the nexus 7 and flash a rom like paranoid android onto it and just give him that but its your choice
Do you notice any lag or poor response times with the custom ROMs? Tw is horrible imo, but throwing on a 3rd party launcher should cut down considerably on the lag
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Holo Launcher HD comes highly recommend, free from Google Play the pro version doesn't cost much either
Any avid flashers go back to stock ROM and stay there? I flip flop between CM and aospa frequently and I'm considering going back to stock. Id think that Google optimised the stock ROM for the Nexus 4. Any comments. Ive always used custom roms
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I haven't stayed there on the N4, my GN lived on stock for the last couple of months I used it.
That said if CM didn't exist I would have ZERO issues with rocking the stock images. I'd just carefully choose which market apps to fill some of the functionality void.
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When I first got my n4 in November I immediately started flashing ROMs (cm being ROM of choice). But after about a month I went back to 100% stock unrooted and stayed that way. Its nice to know everything will just work, plus after a while I get sick of flashing ROMs all the time. Only thing about stock is it gets kinda boring after a while, which is why I flashed PA yesterday but I'm kinda already thinking about going back to stock lol... Nothing matches its speed & smoothness imo
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How bout battery life? I don't like using custom kernels... To many things to tinker with.
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I wouldn't consider myself an avid flasher but I did try a ROM (AOKP) and ended up going back to stock because I like knowing everything will work on my phone when I need it to. On previous non nexus devices I always flashed ROMs that were as close to AOSP as possible because I think it's smoother (but they'd always have minor issues here and there were functionality didn't quite work all the way). I usually pick a ROM and stick with it. In this particular case I think it will be stock.
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How bout battery life? I don't like using custom kernels... To many things to tinker with.
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Same here, never been a huge fan of kernels. But I decided to give Franco a try and I can safely say battery is slightly better than stock. I was getting about 15 hrs + 3screen on with stock, now on PA w/ Franco I'm getting 4hrs screen on time. Only thing I noticed is every once in a while I see a tiny micro-stutter in an animation, but its worth it for an extra hr of SOT lol. Btw I'm running all stock settings on franco
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I have used the phone for 2 days and it just seems more laggy than the note 2. The note 2 is crispy especially when switching between apps.
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Yes. I have noticed this as well. Last weekend I purchased a HTC One, the reception was very poor compared to the Note 2, also seemed to have a bit of lag. I took it back immediately.
Then, I outright bought the Galaxy S4 and am debating taking it back because of the lag. I wonder if it has something to do with 1080 vs 720 screen resolution processing?
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I have used the phone for 2 days and it just seems more laggy than the note 2. The note 2 is crispy especially when switching between apps.
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My best guess the is the s4 software was a rush job. They didn't expect to have to use the snapdragon 600 processor and so they didn't have time to fully optomize it the best they could. The soc is more than powerful enough. However, i think with in the the next month or so an update will completely clear that up. The same thing happened to the s3.
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My best guess the is the s4 software was a rush job. They didn't expect to have to use the snapdragon 600 processor and so they didn't have time to fully optomize it the best they could. The soc is more than powerful enough. However, i think with in the the next month or so an update will completely clear that up. The same thing happened to the s3.
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That is true, with an update it will help regulate the system a little better. I do too remember that with the SIII i didnt have it then but i knew a few people who did have it. The lag isnt BAD but i think to much runs in the background and sucks the ram up I feel as if i need a task killer for some of the background crap. Plus with the awesome dev selection coming here and once tweaks start cracking out im sure it will be all gone
What I did was install trickstermod, change the governor from on demand to interactive, up the read ahead from 256 to 1024, change scheduler to deadline, and turn off zram.. and this thing is running like butter. And I'm getting amazing battery life
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What I did was install trickstermod, change the governor from on demand to interactive, up the read ahead from 256 to 1024, change scheduler to deadline, and turn off zram.. and this thing is running like butter. And I'm getting amazing battery life
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I see two settings for the CPU Governor... You just changed the one under the General section correct. Or did you also change the Governor setting under the Specific sections as well?
EDIT: NVM the one under Specific section is for the GPU... misread it the first time I looked at the settings.
This seems odd to me. I had an S3 tweaked to optimal performance, and the S4 completely stock still blazes in comparison.
I don't have a single sliver of lag, I go from app to app in a heartbeat, and my roommate has a Note 2 as well and the S4 is still smoother.
Very weird, this is one beast of a phone haha. There is literally nothing better at the moment since it came out so early in the year!
I'm sure any issues you have will disappear in a second once kernel development gets going!
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The latest sprint OTA takes care of the lag issue
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This seems odd to me. I had an S3 tweaked to optimal performance, and the S4 completely stock still blazes in comparison.
I don't have a single sliver of lag, I go from app to app in a heartbeat, and my roommate has a Note 2 as well and the S4 is still smoother.
Very weird, this is one beast of a phone haha. There is literally nothing better at the moment since it came out so early in the year!
I'm sure any issues you have will disappear in a second once kernel development gets going!
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What do you consider to be "lag"? The S4 does lag. That's all there is to it. Not as much as my EVO LTE does but it still does. Especially compared to the HTC One. But I'd rather have a little lag as opposed to the negatives with HTC, Sense, and the One.
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What do you consider to be "lag"? The S4 does lag. That's all there is to it. Not as much as my EVO LTE does but it still does. Especially compared to the HTC One. But I'd rather have a little lag as opposed to the negatives with HTC, Sense, and the One.
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I'm sure you know all about my phone.
My phone doesn't stutter in the slightest, it does not ever freeze up even for a second, everything opens and close immediately, multi tasking works flawlessly, there is literally nothing on it that doesn't work flawlessly. It has a processor that's already excessively powerful for just a phone.
As other people have said, some people may be having lag solely due to software, and the consensus is that the latest firmware updates took care of the minor issues people were having. I've had an android phone from every generation starting with the G1 and I can say that my phone, the one in my hand, does not lag at all, while all others had plenty of lag decreasing exponentially through generations.
I am running AOSP though, and not the stock TW though and have been since it came out, so I can't give a respectable opinion on the current state of the stock rom.
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Off topic, but what do u consider to be the negatives of the htc one that keep you from getting it? Just asking cause I might be trading with somebody's s4 today
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Off topic, but what do u consider to be the negatives of the htc one that keep you from getting it? Just asking cause I might be trading with somebody's s4 today
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The S4 is a better investment. HTC is on the brink of going out of business. The S4 will receive constant updates for the next 2 years where that's always been a challenge with HTC phones.
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I'm sure you know all about my phone.
My phone doesn't stutter in the slightest, it does not ever freeze up even for a second, everything opens and close immediately, multi tasking works flawlessly, there is literally nothing on it that doesn't work flawlessly. It has a processor that's already excessively powerful for just a phone.
As other people have said, some people may be having lag solely due to software, and the consensus is that the latest firmware updates took care of the minor issues people were having. I've had an android phone from every generation starting with the G1 and I can say that my phone, the one in my hand, does not lag at all, while all others had plenty of lag decreasing exponentially through generations.
I am running AOSP though, and not the stock TW though and have been since it came out, so I can't give a respectable opinion on the current state of the stock rom.
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I have all 3 devices the S3 S4 and Note 2 and the S4 is way smother than all. I have zero lag as well. Maybe those that do should try a hard reset just a thought.
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I've noticed this in every version of the s4 using a snapdragon 600 I've seen. Some will come out of the box fine others tend to lag. To the op I'd give the one another shot. I think your the only person whose had lag issues, so you probably got a dud unit.
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I've noticed this in every version of the s4 using a snapdragon 600 I've seen. Some will come out of the box fine others tend to lag. To the op I'd give the one another shot. I think your the only person whose had lag issues, so you probably got a dud unit.
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Weird. I noticed lag on the display model at Sprint, on my brothers S4 right after he purchased his, and on mine right after purchasing my S4. My brother also claims his device doesn't lag the slightest bit but it clearly did while I was testing his out. Maybe some of us are super-human and can detect a higher FPS in the 'ol noggin. Lol. Who knows.
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I have 0 lag with the updated. It seems to have taken care if that issue
I also notice I have more free RAM than I used to have prior to OTA
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I have a question? When I look at my ram usage it stays at 1.2+ out of 1.78. Is that how it is for everyone else? Sorry if this has been asked.
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Hi everybody, I want to buy one of this three devices (since I have a very old phone now, the galaxy ace), but I'd like to know which one is the most lagfree. The s4 and the htc one are surely faster (even If I saw some videos in which the n4 with custom rom was faster than an s4 with stock rom), but what about lag? Is the n4 really the smoothest android experience? Thanks in advance!
I have not gotten the chance to try the Galaxy S4 but I have gotten to use an HTC One for a few days, I loved the phone but I still feel my Nexus 4 was a smoother experience. The HTC one is extremely smooth and fast though, no doubt.
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I've heard that the s4 has some lag. Either way every android phone I had with oem skin on has gotten more and more slow and laggy, my gnex is almost smoother then my s3 by now.. I have no idea why
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The S4 is very laggy at the moment. I've had both the AT&T and T-Mobile version both lag during leaving apps. Sometime it lags on the home screen while moving through pages.
HTC one i only got to play with for about 30 mins and it was pretty smooth. I didn't notice lag at all. But the nexus with a custom rom is going to be better until someone makes better use of the HTC one and GS4 power.
And for the record the GS4 lag on a custom rom CM10 and Wicked.
I played with a brand new s4 today, only factory apps installed, and imported contacts, and i definitely noticed some ui lag. Nexus 4 is way smoother imo.
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The S4 is stupidly laggy for something with such amazing hardware. From videos that I've seen the One seems pretty much as lag-free as the N4, right now the One is definitely the best phone on the market IMO.
Ok guys, thanks for the help! I want the nexus 4 so badly!
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Ok guys, thanks for the help! I want the nexus 4 so badly!
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You won't regret it.
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I had a play wit ha S4 yesterday. Its almost unrecognizable as an android device. Samsung has done their best to bloat touchwiz up so bad, it almost wont run. Shame for a phone with such awesome hardware to have stuttering and lag like that .
S4 is too much laggy (exynos octa version) because it doesnt have a govenor and I/O scheduler sufficiently smart to manage the low-power and and performance cores.
If you wanna add a wildcard how about the s4 Google edition, all the nexus experience with the Sammy hardware. Unlocked bootloader out of the box. Should be a contender.
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I've had my nexus 4 for about 2 weeks and I have yet to experience any type of lag.
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If you wanna add a wildcard how about the s4 Google edition, all the nexus experience with the Sammy hardware. Unlocked bootloader out of the box. Should be a contender.
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I read that the s4 gogle edition will be an USA exclusive, and I live in Italy... Also the nexus 4 looks 100 times cooler ahahah
I was torn between the GE S4 and the Nexus. I picked the nexus because it is the same experience for almost have the price.
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If you plan on getting a nexus 4 root and flash roms and kernels, it makes the phone so much better
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If you plan on getting a nexus 4 root and flash roms and kernels, it makes the phone so much better
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It's the first thing I'm going to do once it'll be in my hand!
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It's the first thing I'm going to do once it'll be in my hand!
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I've got a Nexus 4. Zero lag. Very smooth. I've gone into a few different AT&T stores to check out the HTC One and the S4. Every time I tried the S4, the first thing I noticed was lag. I was really surprised. Even a little jittery when swiping the home screen. It's not terrible, don't get me wrong, but it's there. Didn't notice it with the HTC One.
My thoughts are that the HTC One has the highest build quality of the three. There's no doubt, it's the most "premium" and for that reason it makes me want one. It also has the best screen in my opinion. However, there's also no doubt that the Nexus 4 has the best software (both HTC and Samsung ruined their phones with all the unnecessary changes they made) and there's also obviously no doubt that it will get Android updates the quickest and longest into the future, so for that reason I'd stick with my Nexus 4. I also hate that both HTC and Samsung removed the dedicated app switcher button (which I use all the time). The Nexus 4 battery life is a little disappointing coming from an iPhone 4S, but it blows the iPhone away in almost every other way in my opinion.
The best phone "in the world" would be an HTC One that was a Nexus and had the app-switcher button. But, it doesn't exist. So, Nexus 4 is my vote instead.
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I read that the s4 gogle edition will be an USA exclusive, and I live in Italy... Also the nexus 4 looks 100 times cooler ahahah
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That's true I love the nexus' look and operation. Hands down my favorite android device. Can't wait for the five.
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