Nexus 7 w/ custom ROM vs Nexus 10 stock - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Alright so to start off I am looking to buy a tablet for my dad for Christmas and have been to a couple stores looking at various tablets and must say I am not to impressed with screen responsiveness on TW. Pinch to show screen previews lags a good amount on tab 2 and note 2 from what I saw. The smoothness overall just left something to be desired. My question is would I be better off getting a nexus 7 and tossing on a custom ROM or getting the nexus 10 and keeping stock. I realize I could put a ROM on nexus 10 without problem, but I would rather not risk breaking a $400 gift. The nexus 7 at only $200 and being developed for a year means I will certainly mess with it. Sorry to ramble. So in your opinion would it be better to get a nexus 7 with a custom ROM or nexus 10 that will stay stock. Thanks for your time
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well it depends the nexus 7 is more portable and cheaper then the nexus 10 but the nexus 10 does have better specs but the nexus 7 is more than enough for most people so i'd get the nexus 7 and flash a rom like paranoid android onto it and just give him that but its your choice

Do you notice any lag or poor response times with the custom ROMs? Tw is horrible imo, but throwing on a 3rd party launcher should cut down considerably on the lag
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Do you regret buying a N7 due to not using it enough?

Hello,
So, topic pretty much says it all.
I would like to buy a Nexus 7, but because I always carry my smartphone with me and it pretty much does everything I need it to, I am afraid of spending the money and not using it enough to justify the cost.
So, what's your case? For what do you use your tablet?
Do you regret buying it?
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I use it pretty much constantly, its almost as portable as my phone and much more ole sent to use due to the better screen and battery life. I think it is a good investment
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As a student it's nice having this battery life without having to haul my laptop around.
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I have always preferred using my phones over my laptop....since I bought the N7 not only have I not even glanced at my laptop I haven't been using my phones that much either...which has been great for their battery life I use the N7 for pretty much everything....paying bills, browsing, texting, etc...which are all the things I did on the phones. If I didn't need the laptop for Odin or kies, I would sell it.
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This. Nexus 7 is my primary computer now. How could I live without 7 inch device before..? My phone is just a phone now, which is great.
No.
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My Nexus 7 has pretty much replaced my pc and laptop...
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I've carried an iPad with me constantly for the last couple of years, so I knew exactly how I would use my N7. At work for note-taking in meetings, checking email when away from my desk, logging on to my Citrix desktop, listening to music or watching a video when work gets boring In personal time, I watch videos and play music, check email, read (books, magazines), browse the net and play games.
It's never far from my side and gets plenty of use! Justifying the $300 price tag vs. $500-600 for an iPad (I paid more than that for my iPad 1 a couple of years back) is a no-brainer for me.
Don't regret it one bit. My PC is getting far less use at home now (good considering I spend 8 hours a day in front of one at work) and my has been relegated to phone duties.
I don't regret it at all. I use my tablet pretty much every day for most of the day. Like many others have said, I rarely use my laptop for anything anymore unless I have a ton of typing to do.
Not one bit! I haven't been able to put it down since the day I brought it. Sold my laptop and my desktop gets used less and less. I've also been using my Evo LTE as just a phone now lol. Excellent purchase in my book. Trust me you won't be disappointed. If you ever find yourself not using it, you can easily sell it and recoup some of your money.
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The thing is I previously had an HTC Sensation as a phone and an HTC flyer as a tablet.
Was using almost always the sensation because the flyer always stayed at home.
Ended up selling both and got a galaxy note to try and have the best of both worlds.
Granted the nexus 7 is a different beast from the flyer, but I fear the same might happen...
Thinking about selling the note and pick a nexus as a smaller phone and a nexus 7.
I am afraid to end up feeling the nexus is too small and the nexus 7 too big to carry around.
Cheers
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I'm constantly on mine. Phone gets used for text now.
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gdourado said:
The thing is I previously had an HTC Sensation as a phone and an HTC flyer as a tablet.
Was using almost always the sensation because the flyer always stayed at home.
Ended up selling both and got a galaxy note to try and have the best of both worlds.
Granted the nexus 7 is a different beast from the flyer, but I fear the same might happen...
Thinking about selling the note and pick a nexus as a smaller phone and a nexus 7.
I am afraid to end up feeling the nexus is too small and the nexus 7 too big to carry around.
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I have the GNote and GNex and after using the GNote everything seems small, but the GNex feels like a toy after I've been using the GNote all week. I wish the GNex was a little bigger....even my sgs2 looks bigger next to the GNex, even though it's only 4.5.Hoping they make the next nexus at least 4.8....although "leaks" of specs are rumored to be the same size as the GNex.
Since I got my nexus 7 I don't think I've put it down unless its for charge wile I sleep. Rarely use my xperia s unless I'm out and about. Ive never used my laptop much before anyway. Unless it was for uni. I carry my nexus all over the house. Whether its for readings books, browsing tapatalk or just generally browsing. When I hold my xperia after the n7 it feels so small lol.
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rkanwar said:
Since I got my nexus 7 I don't think I've put it down unless its for charge wile I sleep. Rarely use my xperia s unless I'm out and about. Ive never used my laptop much before anyway. Unless it was for uni. I carry my nexus all over the house. Whether its for readings books, browsing tapatalk or just generally browsing. When I hold my xperia after the n7 it feels so small lol.
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I bought a second N7 because I found that when I had to charge it I missed it too much. So I bought another one so that I'd always have one at my disposal
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Mine has replaced my phone for everything but calling, texting and navigation. Gaming, web, reading ebooks and comics...all more comfortable on the N7.
I'm actually thinking of selling/trading my GNote and getting a Nexus.
I can do everything I did with the SPen just as easily on my N7 with a standard stylus too and my storage needs are happily met with my external drive.
Love the Note but it's usefulness as a phablet isn't there for me anymore.
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It all depends on what your current phone is, If it's a SGSIII or other high end device then the Nexus 7 isn't much of a improvement other then having a bigger screen.
I actually still use my SGSIII more then the Nexus 7 as I can do everything and more (like being able to pocket it) on the phone while the Nexus 7 is now just a coffee table family tablet. Games are kind of nice but some of them are very hard to control due to placement of virtual joypads.
I guess I'll either give away the Nexus 7 or figure some other use for it.
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It all depends on what your current phone is, If it's a SGSIII or other high end device then the Nexus 7 isn't much of a improvement other then having a bigger screen.
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There is no comparing a sgs3 to a pure Google tablet. Just no comparison.
Even my GNote at 5.3 is isn't useable as a tablet. Don't know why you think the N7 isn't much of an improvement over a 4.87 ics, touchwiz PHONE.
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I use mine quite a lot, still use the phone, but at home I'll use my N7, and sometimes ill take my N7 to work so will use it their, and on my commute to work.
I love this thing.
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Nexus 7 vs 5'' phone

Hello
So the situation is that I have a 10 inch tablet now and a 4.7 phone. I find the tablet too big for carrying it around and other stuff except movies..
Planning to upgrade my phone to a 5 inch one soon and idk I'd its worth it to get the nexus 7 if I have a 5 inch phone since they are almost similar in size
Is it worth it?
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Hi, I currently have the original galaxy note and the n7. I have to say that the difference in size doesn't seem a lot on paper but when you're using it you will benefit so much from having the extra space on the n7. They have similar resolutions but the n7 is so much nicer for web browsing, watching videos etc. Such a shame because I hardly pick up my phone these days unless I want to...well make a call or text...
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I to find my phone to small for Internet and other usages since I got my N7. I think the N7 is the right size for every day use.
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I too have an original Galaxy Note and my Nexus 7, and the experience is perfect. I can still take both devices everywhere, and things like reading and general browsing in the N7 is far easier than the note. The other benefit is that my Note gets to save its already incredible battery life for actual phone use and such while I use the Nexus.
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Get a nexus 7 and a phone that fits in a shirt pocket.
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I hardly use my phone (Arc S) since I got my N7 I now find it hard to type on the keyboard since using the N7. My Arc S is now used as a phone & texting device and for data when out & for facebook & Google + when I'm in bed and can't sleep and don't wanna disturb the wife. I'd get the N7 and a pocket sized phone, especially one that has WiFi hotspot feature so you've then got a phone for calls and texts and the N7 for everything else.
Roland
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I keep my Nexus 7 in my jacket pocket, excellent portable tablet.
I'll still be upgrading my phone to a 5" when my upgrade is due.
I find that I use both devices for very different purposes now.
The phone is just a phone - the Nexus 7 does everything else
Same here my 5" player doesn't get much use since getting the N7. And I have a 4.7" phone that only gets used as phone, txt messages and GPS when I'm not on WiFi.
I like that I can hold the N7 in one hand since I usually stay in portrait mode and that the N7 will fit in a back pocket.
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performance on this thing...is it any good ?

How is the multi-tasking etc ? gaming ?
And seriously is 1gb of ram good enough ?
I find it great at both of those even better if you flash a custom kernel but stock is still amazing at both, this is definitely the best 7 inch tablet you can get but if your looking for a big 10 inch takes and have money to spend I'd try the Nexus 10 as it also looks very promising
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How is the multi-tasking etc ? gaming ?
And seriously is 1gb of ram good enough ?
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Is there really a need for another post/thread like this? Use the search button its what it is there for.
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This is the best tablet on 7inch display multi tasking is no trouble and being able to swap back and forth from app to app in a flash is great. Performance all round is smooth and very pleasing. Games run quick and the size of the tablet makes playing all games so much easier. If u are thinking of buying one dnt think just do it. this thing holds no disappointment to anything it dose.
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Just don't update ota to 4.2.1, lots of performance problems as reported here on the forum.
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Try using a Tegra 2 tablet for a day then pick up a Nexus 7. Big difference, bigger than I expected. I have a TF101 and N7 both running 1280x800 resolution so that's not a factor. It could be that the TF101 is on 4.0.1 and my N7 is on 4.2.1. It drives me crazy to use my TF101 now.
I'm running 4.2.1 OTA, bone stock (for now) and am not seeing any problems, performance or otherwise.

Nexus 4 vs SGS4 vs Htc One (lag)

Hi everybody, I want to buy one of this three devices (since I have a very old phone now, the galaxy ace), but I'd like to know which one is the most lagfree. The s4 and the htc one are surely faster (even If I saw some videos in which the n4 with custom rom was faster than an s4 with stock rom), but what about lag? Is the n4 really the smoothest android experience? Thanks in advance!
I have not gotten the chance to try the Galaxy S4 but I have gotten to use an HTC One for a few days, I loved the phone but I still feel my Nexus 4 was a smoother experience. The HTC one is extremely smooth and fast though, no doubt.
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I've heard that the s4 has some lag. Either way every android phone I had with oem skin on has gotten more and more slow and laggy, my gnex is almost smoother then my s3 by now.. I have no idea why
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The S4 is very laggy at the moment. I've had both the AT&T and T-Mobile version both lag during leaving apps. Sometime it lags on the home screen while moving through pages.
HTC one i only got to play with for about 30 mins and it was pretty smooth. I didn't notice lag at all. But the nexus with a custom rom is going to be better until someone makes better use of the HTC one and GS4 power.
And for the record the GS4 lag on a custom rom CM10 and Wicked.
I played with a brand new s4 today, only factory apps installed, and imported contacts, and i definitely noticed some ui lag. Nexus 4 is way smoother imo.
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The S4 is stupidly laggy for something with such amazing hardware. From videos that I've seen the One seems pretty much as lag-free as the N4, right now the One is definitely the best phone on the market IMO.
Ok guys, thanks for the help! I want the nexus 4 so badly!
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Ok guys, thanks for the help! I want the nexus 4 so badly!
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You won't regret it.
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I had a play wit ha S4 yesterday. Its almost unrecognizable as an android device. Samsung has done their best to bloat touchwiz up so bad, it almost wont run. Shame for a phone with such awesome hardware to have stuttering and lag like that .
S4 is too much laggy (exynos octa version) because it doesnt have a govenor and I/O scheduler sufficiently smart to manage the low-power and and performance cores.
If you wanna add a wildcard how about the s4 Google edition, all the nexus experience with the Sammy hardware. Unlocked bootloader out of the box. Should be a contender.
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I've had my nexus 4 for about 2 weeks and I have yet to experience any type of lag.
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BxingFetus said:
If you wanna add a wildcard how about the s4 Google edition, all the nexus experience with the Sammy hardware. Unlocked bootloader out of the box. Should be a contender.
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I read that the s4 gogle edition will be an USA exclusive, and I live in Italy... Also the nexus 4 looks 100 times cooler ahahah
I was torn between the GE S4 and the Nexus. I picked the nexus because it is the same experience for almost have the price.
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If you plan on getting a nexus 4 root and flash roms and kernels, it makes the phone so much better
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If you plan on getting a nexus 4 root and flash roms and kernels, it makes the phone so much better
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It's the first thing I'm going to do once it'll be in my hand!
The Zel said:
It's the first thing I'm going to do once it'll be in my hand!
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I've got a Nexus 4. Zero lag. Very smooth. I've gone into a few different AT&T stores to check out the HTC One and the S4. Every time I tried the S4, the first thing I noticed was lag. I was really surprised. Even a little jittery when swiping the home screen. It's not terrible, don't get me wrong, but it's there. Didn't notice it with the HTC One.
My thoughts are that the HTC One has the highest build quality of the three. There's no doubt, it's the most "premium" and for that reason it makes me want one. It also has the best screen in my opinion. However, there's also no doubt that the Nexus 4 has the best software (both HTC and Samsung ruined their phones with all the unnecessary changes they made) and there's also obviously no doubt that it will get Android updates the quickest and longest into the future, so for that reason I'd stick with my Nexus 4. I also hate that both HTC and Samsung removed the dedicated app switcher button (which I use all the time). The Nexus 4 battery life is a little disappointing coming from an iPhone 4S, but it blows the iPhone away in almost every other way in my opinion.
The best phone "in the world" would be an HTC One that was a Nexus and had the app-switcher button. But, it doesn't exist. So, Nexus 4 is my vote instead.
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I read that the s4 gogle edition will be an USA exclusive, and I live in Italy... Also the nexus 4 looks 100 times cooler ahahah
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That's true I love the nexus' look and operation. Hands down my favorite android device. Can't wait for the five.
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Is it a good idea to buy one?

I want to upgrade my phone by purchasing this one, and I wonder if this device with a Custom ROM and JB tweaks works with zero lag.
I'm stuck with this or a S3.
Do you guys recommend me one Galaxy Nexus?
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I had the galaxy nexus. It was okay but I definitely felt the old hardware in day to day performance. I would go for the nexus 4. It's pretty much future proof of 2 years or so. As for custom rom there are really good ones here.
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It will be fine since I will use it for app development and gaming.
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I was mainly deciding between a Nexus 4 and a used S3 (since they can be had for 200$), I ended up getting a Nexus 4 from the carrier due to the monthly payment of 17$ for 24 months (basically for the 16GB model which I could have gotten direct from google for 350$, I'm paying bout ~60 interest for basically a loan when you think bout it).
Namely for two reasons.
1) It's nearly impossible to hard-brick, and just as easy to unlock (though an S3 wouldn't be that difficult either)
2) Google will continue to provide OS updates for it at the very least for the next 2 maybe 3 years if you want AOSP or any roms based on AOSP.
Reasons I considered the S3:
- Longer battery life (both phones have a 2100mAh battery, but the S3's battery can be user-replaced)
- Can be had decently lower price used (~200-250 since the S4 is out now)
- Has a microSD slot, so could pop in a 64GB micro-SD card
- higher megapixel user-side camera (1.9MP vs 1.3MP)
- will support USB-OTG (Nexus4 will not and it's not capable of it on the hardware level).
I'm somewhat new to the Nexus4 itself, but so far with the custom rom SlimBean I've had zero lag, and short of google wallet (probably rom related, I resolved it with titanium backup), I haven't had a problem yet.
to me nexus devices are the only ones that i have ever had where i don't need to use a custom rom its already stock and using custom ones generally add features which i for don't really use or want.
easy to root, and with a custom kernel its truly an amzaing device.
having said that if you want smooth, this is about as smooth as any other device out atm HOWEVER android is going to get a massive speed (and potentially battery) boost with the next android version due to changes in the UX rendering system and limiting draw calls.
so the nexus 4 can only get better imo.
but if you can hold out till novemeber maybe wait for the the new nexus and a hardware boost (and probably a 1080p screen)
A custom ROM gives more speed, but with stock is enough? No lags?
manudo said:
A custom ROM gives more speed, but with stock is enough? No lags?
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Stock on Google devices are about as slimmed down as you can get of any stock devices, I know plenty of people who are happy with stock-rooted.
Custom roms can do a lot of things not just speed.
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Stability and speed I expect for the ROMS for this device.
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manudo said:
Stability and speed I expect for the ROMS for this device.
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Development is rather strong for nexus devices.
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