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[Q] ATT S4, Feels choppy ?

I'm not sure if there is too much crap in the default kernel, or if the cpu is being underclocked somewhere. But this 'feels' choppier to me then the S3 ever did which should not be the case. I can be in facebook and just scrolling along and poof .5 sec lag then it jumps ahead of where I wanted to go, and I am seeing this all over. Even in the play store installing apps. Suggestions ?

trichert said:
I'm not sure if there is too much crap in the default kernel, or if the cpu is being underclocked somewhere. But this 'feels' choppier to me then the S3 ever did which should not be the case. I can be in facebook and just scrolling along and poof .5 sec lag then it jumps ahead of where I wanted to go, and I am seeing this all over. Even in the play store installing apps. Suggestions ?
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Yeah..I noticed it too. Especially after I put all my apps on it.

plmiller0905 said:
Yeah..I noticed it too. Especially after I put all my apps on it.
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All the more reason we need this accursed bootloader unlocked

Yeah my note 2 feels smoother at stock BUT the S4 is smoother than my note 2 with any custom rom. Very odd.
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yes i notice this very much. i have rooted mine as per the motosomething posted on the forum and disabled most services in titanium backup but still, there is a bit of studder/lag. its not 100% smooth as i was expecting out of a phone with a 1.9GHZ quad core processor and 2gb ddr3 ram!!!

TechSilver13 said:
Yeah my note 2 feels smoother at stock BUT the S4 is smoother than my note 2 with any custom rom. Very odd.
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Note 2 stock uses full potential of exynos. Custom Roms doesnt since exynos source not released
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And that sucks it kindof got me rethinking about purchasing this at the moment with all these lag threads everywhere

The htc one is smoother but it has zero features. I still like the s4 with or without lag.
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Guys just give it a minute. They could release an OTA update that fixes it. Remember it's 4.2.x not all apps are meant for it.
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Yeah the phone feels a bit laggy after I installed all my apps and signed into my account.
I was going to post this but you seedy beat me to it
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Tell me about it my balls are itching for a release of a software upgrade.
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The thing about an update is samsung NEVER releases updates si I doubt itll happen.
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I personally want to thank all of the Guinea Pigs for helping to sort through all of the early release issues so mine will be a much better experience when I finally buy it.

I'm sure its do to apps not being optimized for it yet. I looked at what was using all of my memory and there was my good ole xda premium app at the top of the list. Lol. My one I had felt faster but I say give it time. I remember my note 2 had a couple updates within the first month or two. I could care less BC I live this phone.
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Turn on power savings and see if it is snappier. It feels to me like it is. Very odd but maybe its just me.
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Thank God it's not just me. I just exchanged the One that I bought on the 23rd for the S4 today and noticed a bunch of lag. Kind of upsetting. All the reviews I watched there was no lag at all. The One and the S4 have the same chip but the One is clocked at 1.7. Doesn't make any sense that it's snappier than the S4. I REALLY hope I don't regret my decision because the One I had was very good quality control wise..

I've noticed a bit of a slow down when unlocking from the lock screen and opening the app drawer. Nothing major but pretty annoying. The One I traded in today had nothing like that. Oh well.
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I also experience lag on my gs4. Not terrible, but my gs3 is faster in everyday use.

It's gotta be able to be fixed through an update right? If it's happening to all of us..

My international exynos I9500 has a bunch of lag also so don't feel bad guys. My guess is that it has to do with the 4.2 Jellybean. That version is pretty much optimized for the Nexus 4 (which I had) and had almost zero lag. That was probably the snappiest android device I've used along with the Note 2.
The HTC One is still on 4.1 so my guess once it's updated to 4.2 it will lag just the same until the overlays are optimized for it (Sense and TW).
In this meantime it's kinda bullsh1t that a phone with this much power still has more lag than a prior gen Galaxy S3.

I use a note 2 and I see the lag in the s4. A new "flagship" device shouldn't have this much lag on it even with all the bloat... The s3 didn't even lag like this which is kinda sad.

[Q] S4 i9500 or i9505 ? which one has more issues?

Hi everyone, i am planing to buy an S4, but i have heard they have alot of issues, the overheating, battery drain, and others so i dont know which one to buy...
thank you

milot said:
Hi everyone, i am planing to buy an S4, but i have heard they have alot of issues, the overheating, battery drain, and others so i dont know which one to buy...
thank you
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I m using i9500 since a month and not having any issue battery is also good easily I get abt 18 hours with average use like 2 hours tt 30 mins game wifi on full time on etc
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I have had no issues using the I9505, I got rid of any lag by minimising the animation time of transitions and stopping s voice from opening up with the home button. Battery life is pretty decent. Had full day of it running with the screen on bright.
The only difference that I think there would be is 4G LTE, and how important that is to you? I've got good coverage so I'm loving the network speed of late.
If you want to speed it up and flash it with some a ROM, CM, AOKP and some other customs are coming out with good results so far
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123hiten said:
I m using i9500 since a month and not having any issue battery is also good easily I get abt 18 hours with average use like 2 hours tt 30 mins game wifi on full time on etc
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thanks, i also want to know about the speed performance,and the wifi problem which one has it?

I also have GT- 9500, everything Stock, and have NOT had any issues so far (thanks god, it came perfect from stock). I believe every phone is different even though its the same model, cuz other people have list out their issues and I have not had any of their issues.

urbanpitch said:
I have had no issues using the I9505, I got rid of any lag by minimising the animation time of transitions and stopping s voice from opening up with the home button. Battery life is pretty decent. Had full day of it running with the screen on bright.
The only difference that I think there would be is 4G LTE, and how important that is to you? I've got good coverage so I'm loving the network speed of late.
If you want to speed it up and flash it with some a ROM, CM, AOKP and some other customs are coming out with good results so far
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Extreme184X said:
I also have GT- 9500, everything Stock, and have NOT had any issues so far (thanks god, it came perfect from stock). I believe every phone is different even though its the same model, cuz other people have list out their issues and I have not had any of their issues.
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Thank you... here in my country still theres no 4G LTE, so i am going for I9500
Thanks...

The i9500 will be perfect for you then. Its a smarter too. You only need what you can actually use . That is honestly the only difference between the two phones. Both have different chipsets, exynos and Qualcomm, but they are both fast chips that get the job done. Go with what you need. I9500 is better because is a 3G phone first.
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Nexus 4: the most lagfree android device?

Hi all, the nexus 4 is the devices that I want to buy, but I wanted to ask you something: is it the most lagfree device avaible in the market? How is it after installing many apps? I've read in many reviews that's the smoothest android device, but I would like some confirmations
PS: I have a galaxy ace and I know that the nexus 4 will definitely be a super-upgrade

I've got about 100 or so installed apps and it works just fine.
Edit: just checked. I have 129 apps.
From a Nexus 4 bathing in Jelly Beans

Its definitely one of the fastest out there if not the fastest. The pure Google experience that you get with the phone is awesome. If you like to flash your phone there's a huge variety of roms that can be personalized to the tiniest details, and with the right combination of a rom and a decent kernel you will forget what lag is.
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Oh, I know what flashing is and I think I will mess around with that!

The Zel said:
Oh, I know what flashing is and I think I will mess around with that!
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After you flash for the first time, you will become an addict, beware
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With a nexus 4 you won't "need" to flash anything, you can do it if you want some extra customizations, but even the stock rom is lag free. Install apex or nova launcher and boost animation/window speed, and you'll get an even snappier experience.
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I played with HTC One which is claimed to be the fastest, smoothest, and powerful Android phone. Yes it is! But sometimes you will have the stutter feeling when opening apps, just sometimes though, and it is somewhat unpredictable. its fast but not quite like a Nexus. you have to experience it to know what i mean. plus most apps are developed based on a Nexus, so yeah you'll have the best experience.
I have about 113 apps and still no lag. stock everything until last week i flashed franco kernel. planning to jump onto cyanogenmod tomorrow.

With all the things you say, you make me desire more and more the nexus!

I'm on stock, unlocked and rooted with 700hrs of up-time so far, no crashes other than a couple of 3rd party apps and no lag whatsoever =)
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just grab this amazing phone..
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Had my N4 since Xmas and whilst the UI is smooth scrolling in certain apps is a pain, like XDA or tapatalk or facebook.
I have tried loads of roms, currently using Sabermod which has the least lag but there is still judder issues with some apps, ALL android devices that I have used (N1, S2, S3, N4) have suffered this problem. Until all major apps act as lag free as my launcher I cannot say the N4 is lag free

bentez2003 said:
Had my N4 since Xmas and whilst the UI is smooth scrolling in certain apps is a pain, like XDA or tapatalk or facebook.
I have tried loads of roms, currently using Sabermod which has the least lag but there is still judder issues with some apps, ALL android devices that I have used (N1, S2, S3, N4) have suffered this problem. Until all major apps act as lag free as my launcher I cannot say the N4 is lag free
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The problem there is the app itself
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hey man, I came from cooper too and now I have an N4. It's a really good phone, specially when you flash franco's kernel and CM10.1 nightlys (yeah, you don't have anymore to wait updates from Maclaw, OldDroid or biel ). Battery life is good, and with franco kernel it's even better.
All the UI and system apps are really smooth, but when using some apps it's a pain to scrool (apps's fault). Videos and music also play without interruptions. Buy it, you will not regret.

Well I also have a note 10.1 and I'm not sure I'm noticing the lag you're talking about in the facebook app...

I've had every galaxy s series phone available from the vibrant to the sII then the s3 tried the s4....and absolutely nothing comes close to the Nexus experience period.
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Compared next to the s4 this phone actually opens and closes apps faster by a split second or so, but the dual core s3 is faster than the s4 in my opinion so....
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bentez2003 said:
Had my N4 since Xmas and whilst the UI is smooth scrolling in certain apps is a pain, like XDA or tapatalk or facebook.
I have tried loads of roms, currently using Sabermod which has the least lag but there is still judder issues with some apps, ALL android devices that I have used (N1, S2, S3, N4) have suffered this problem. Until all major apps act as lag free as my launcher I cannot say the N4 is lag free
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You picked the worst apps =p
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bentez2003 said:
Had my N4 since Xmas and whilst the UI is smooth scrolling in certain apps is a pain, like XDA or tapatalk or facebook.
I have tried loads of roms, currently using Sabermod which has the least lag but there is still judder issues with some apps, ALL android devices that I have used (N1, S2, S3, N4) have suffered this problem. Until all major apps act as lag free as my launcher I cannot say the N4 is lag free
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I don't think what you are describing is lag caused by the Nexus 4...
It's lag caused by your data speed.
With your facebook example, scolling sometimes stuters as it downloads the actual data & information from facebook itself.
The facebook app tries to place new information at the top & then it tens to want to automatically jump to the top.
If you were connected to LTE or even a fast WiFi connection that problem would be less noticable.
But as said earlier... it's just bad coding from facebook.
Come on man, the Nexus is amazing...
It has the same amount of RAM as my work computer, & lags less.

Personally I find the Nexus 4 to be a very fast device, I wont say lag free as I can certainly see some lag but is it the fastest device out? You bet, ive played around with a very new note 2 and an s4, the N4 seems to be much faster than the Note2 and marginally faster than the s4 just pressing the home button on those two devices show about .5 seconds slower than my n4 in action.
Battery life? Hmm struggle with mine if I am honest but I get a day now, it seems I get way less than everyone else and I am not sure why but I feel i got unlucky with my device and I pray to god I have a faulty power button or something so I can RMA within the warranty to hope for a new device haha.
Its the best value phone and has pretty much the same specs as the top phones, whats not to like? And its a Nexus .
Maybe I should add that the device is also faster than the iphones/ipads I have used which shocked me as people always praised their performance... lol, the N4 is simply held back by some poorly coded applications but what can you do? Hope Developers get better

rayiskon said:
...but even the stock rom is lag free.
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Strange; I install the factory ROM onto my N4 and N10, and was quickly reminded as to what lag truly was... it was not pleasing :/

[Q] Worth Buying??

Guys, I know it's Hard but is it worth buying the Galaxy S4??? Or I should go to HTC One, or any other android phone??>.
BTW I heard it has lags.. gets over-heated from the CPU side??..
What's your opinion about the i9500 (cause that's only availaible at my place).

S4 is the way to go
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I9500 is a fantastic device. Go for it.
What you mentioned are issues prevalent with some of the devices (depends on your luck) and could happen even If you buy any other brand.
The Overheating issue is there on both S4 and HTC one, which occurs while gaming not while using it for day to day activities.
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NoteboyTech said:
Guys, I know it's Hard but is it worth buying the Galaxy S4??? Or I should go to HTC One, or any other android phone??>.
BTW I heard it has lags.. gets over-heated from the CPU side??..
What's your opinion about the i9500 (cause that's only availaible at my place).
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I have used I9500 and using HTC one both are very good u can get any one of it if u want lag free device HTC one is for u
And u want more features u should go with S4
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I have both phones and HTC one does heat quicker and battery is not as good. But phone and screen looks much better then galaxy s4. HTC one has no SD card and no removable battery which some people don't like. Both are great phones. HTC one is much smoother and not laggy as sgs4 but if you apply custom roms that lag goes away.
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first - what phone do you have right now?
for me if the phone doesn't have SDcard slot it's worthless so this is my reject on the HTC one
and you can always root and change the startup apps running on the phone background to reduce lag. keep in mind that if you are conservative user - you can keep your S4 running with free 700mb RAM

I've have both. More features on the S4 and there are settings to get rid of the lag. Both cameras are good I like the screen on the HTC One better though. The SD card and removable battery are nice too.
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i9505 lag as hell

Hi yall!
Just got my gs4/9505 it has version 4.3
On it but it lags as hell at games
Like dead trigger 2 and others...
I had before that an iPhone 5 and lg g pro
And never had any lag at games and any task as this device. .
Anyone has the same problem as I do with the 9505?
Or even with the 9500 octa?

GUARDIANBD said:
Hi yall!
Just got my gs4/9505 it has version 4.3
On it but it lags as hell at games
Like dead trigger 2 and others...
I had before that an iPhone 5 and lg g pro
And never had any lag at games and any task as this device. .
Anyone has the same problem as I do with the 9505?
Or even with the 9500 octa?
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I don't play that games, but reasons for lags could be many. Some video games are not optimized for all drivers / GPUs.
Samsung's phones are so filled with bloat I wonder they work at all. This with knox is a totally new dimension. I always root, and at least remove everything I don't need and/or go AOSP/CM as soon as I can.
Back to your problem. Activate developer options, by tapping Build Number (Settings - about phone.). There you'll find options 'force GPU rendering' and 'disable HW overlays'. Play with these and see if it helps.
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Wrong forum. Use the Q&A sections for this stuff..
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Helped a bit but still laggy...
Too bad..a great powerhorse being kicked in the nuts
By laggy software. ..
Im on 4.3 since day one is there any change from 4.2.2
To 4.3?
Changing my device to 9500 will do any difference?

Im not facing any issues on I9500
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Done factory reset and the phone now back to normal.
Games are a bit lagging but not that
Serious.
Its a shame that the adreno 320 cant handle / not optimized
For games...with my older nexus4 I had no problems
Maybe because the high resulotion instead of 720p...

I play that game on High settings and never experienced a lag. Make sure you have turned Off Power Save Mode and give Antutu a try to know what's going on with your phone.

Im not on psm and for instance Dead trigger 2 is lagging on high settings.
My os is 4.3 XXUMK9 and antutu gives me 29663pts