Loving the phone running wicked rom with kt kernel on att. Everything has been great but even with group messaging turned on I can send the group message but comes back one person reply in group message and the other not. Anyone experience this issue with the s4 yet? Thanks in advance.
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My phone originally seemed to work great for group texting....now doesn't seem to work...idk
And neither of you are on stock rom are you. The Rom you're on doesn't support group messages.
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I will check with my rom Dev and see if it's that has to be rom
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Group Messaging on both stock ROM and CM10.1 Nightlys have worked fine for me. It all depends on who you're sending it to and how they handle group messaging.
Prior to the S4 I had a iPhone 4S. I regularly have a group message with two iOS users, and one BlackBerry user.
On iOS 6.1.2, it handles it fine. One box for all 3 users. Every response from all 3 users would go into the same group box chat.
On my S4, with stock ROM, using both stock messaging apps and 3 different Messaging apps I tried out, and on CM10.1 Nightly, it has some issues but its the other devices causing the issue. Same 3 users, 2 iOS and one BlackBerry. I can group text all 3 users. They will all get my group text in a Single box. The two iOS users responses will show up in the group chat. However, the BlackBerry's response will show up in a separate box from just that user. (Hard to tell if they are talking to just me or the group).
This is due to the nature of group messaging. By the standard spec, MMS and SMS messages do not allow group messaging. However, there is non-standard protocol and headers in MMS and SMS that will allow for Group Messaging so long as the phone supports it. That's the tricky part. Because there's no standard for it, every phone and device implements it differently. When I send group chats its sent as a MMS message. iOS picks up on this and replies in kind with a MMS message. Apparently BlackBerry, at least the way my friend has it set up, it gets the group message but instead replies with a SMS. Apparently iOS had a way of deciphering that the SMS was a reply to that group chat, and throws it in the same group chat. However, Android is not able to tell that that SMS belongs to the group chat for some reason and interprets it as a separate text.
So it's all about what devices/settings your friends have set up and whether they reply in the correct manner that Android can respond in.
Thankfully for me 90% of my friends have iPhones which does support group messaging fully, at least where it can interact with my S4 properly, and so long as they have the "Group Messaging" function turned on it Settings>Messages, so it's not much of an issue for me. Just this one friend with a Blackberry I have a issue with. Theoretically you would run into issues with Android so long as they have Android 4.2+ or GoSMS or any 3rd party Messaging app that supports groups.
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So I bounce between my HD2 (Group Textings on OS works nearly perfect, just a little delay.) and my G2. I recently went back to my G2 due to options for apps. Ive tried Handcent & Go SMS..but they fall so short and have bugs/doesnt work.
Most my friends have iPhones & I still resist. Any permanent 'fixes' or options ive overlooked?
what is your problem with group texting? i cant think of a single rom that the default messaging app didnt support it. even dating back to the ol g1 days. maybe we have different ideas on how group texting should work...
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what is your problem with group texting? i cant think of a single rom that the default messaging app didnt support it. even dating back to the ol g1 days. maybe we have different ideas on how group texting should work...
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If someone includes me in a group text that hes say 5 different iphone #'s in it..If I respond it only gets sent to the original sender, and if I recieve 4 respones from 4 different reciepients itll be 4 individual texts "threads" besides the original one.
Am I missing something?
That's how every group message I've ever used worked. Unless some apps have a way to change that.
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I too have had this problem. I have settled on handcent. It is not perfect but it gets the job done. When I was doing my research some people were having luck with the verizon messaging app......
HammDroid - True group messaging performs more like a group chat. When the message comes through you can see sender and the other recipients of the message. When you reply it gets sent to the group. I believe it has become more popular due to iphone usage...
Ok, I have never had an android phone before, preorded a N7 and once I used it I knew I would ditch iOS as soon as I could. Being that I have only used the Nexus 7 I have absolutely no idea how SMS works on the android system. If at all possible can someone confirm that android to iphone group messaging works properly? IE everything is contained in a single thread, doesn't show up as MMS, and I don't receive my own texts? Also in our group messages two of my friends are on ipods so we use imessage to include them. Am I correct in saying that I will not be able to message with them without using a third party app? Thanks for the help guys and hope I receive my N4 soon! :good:
NoL1m1tZ said:
Ok, I have never had an android phone before, preorded a N7 and once I used it I knew I would ditch iOS as soon as I could. Being that I have only used the Nexus 7 I have absolutely no idea how SMS works on the android system. If at all possible can someone confirm that android to iphone group messaging works properly? IE everything is contained in a single thread, doesn't show up as MMS, and I don't receive my own texts? Also in our group messages two of my friends are on ipods so we use imessage to include them. Am I correct in saying that I will not be able to message with them without using a third party app? Thanks for the help guys and hope I receive my N4 soon! :good:
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Group messaging is featured and works natively. I did it once and it worked fine.
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I've seen this question pop up a lot, but I thought I would see if any Nexus 4 users are having a problem on 4.2.2.
I participate in a group SMS chat with 5 other people. Everyone is an iPhone user, except one person who is on a Blackberry. The text messages from the Blackberry user show up on my N4 as individual texts to me, not in the group message.
The only way I've gotten this working is by installed a 3rd party app called GO SMS Pro. Since installing that, the Blackberry user texts now show up in the group message on both applications (stock and 3rd party).
From everything I have read online about SMS and MMS, this would seem to be a problem with the Blackberry user's texts, and iPhone is just handling it better than Android.
I would really like for this to just work in the stock app. For now it is, but I don't like that it just magically started working after installing the 3rd party app.
Thoughts?
Let me first start by saying that I know there are a ton of threads out there supporting issues with users who switch from and iPhone to an S4 and not being able to receive ANY group messages. this is NOT one of those cases.
I have an S4 on AT&T, rooted, stock rom. i use the included/stock SMS/MMS app for my messaging purposes. I know there are alternatives, but this is bugging the crap out of me, so here I go:
I have a group message going with 3 other people with details as follows: Contact 1 - t-mo Windows Phone 8x, Contact 2 - AT&T iPhone 4s, Contact 3 - Verizon S4. When i send a group message, EVERYONE receives it as a group message. when Contacts 1 and 2 respond to the group, i see it as grouped, as does everyone else. When Contact 3 responds, Contacts 1 and 2 see his response as grouped, however, I receive it as an individual message.
This behavior has been consistent on every rom i've tried (unfortunately being on MF3 i'm kinda limited to Tw based, but I digress). If i use textra, chomp, gosms, Contact 3's responses show as part of the group, not individual. what's weirder about this is if I head back to the stock app after Contact 3 responds and his response shows in the group; but when i use the stock app, the aforementioned behavior occurs.
I have literally (at least I think) tried everything beyond a "reflash" suggested by samsung support.
a couple of "requirements" that I've already checked:
1. group messaging - checked
2. mms - enabled
3. mobile data - enabled
i'm getting to my wits end with this. any assistance ANYONE can offer would be amazing!
thanks!
Ha, guess in the only one this is affecting. :/ damn
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nhugh406 said:
Ha, guess in the only one this is affecting. :/ damn
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I have searched and searched as well.. My scenario is close to the same. Any group message my girlfriends is included on (verizon Note II) the exact same thing happens. Her message I receive as a individual separate message, and everyone else receives it in the group.
P.S. Im on an AT&T S4
anyone else?
Fixed the issue. Left the s4 got an HTC one. Couldn't be happier.
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Fixed the issue. Left the s4 got an HTC one. Couldn't be happier.
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That's a sure bummer. Tons of people are switching devices because of things similar to this and of course MF3 locking things up. Referring to your message (although you switched), on my S4, I have that problems sometimes. I also sometimes receive the group message in our individual convo allowing me to download it. After downloading it, it appears in the group chat. Odd behavior.
Glad you found a fix.
I usually have use MMS for group chats on textra and it works fine for me but you have to be on 4g for it to push and send.
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So I have seen stuff all over the web about this topic, but have yet to find an answer. I am one of the many folks that has a problem with group messaging not working correctly. Here is what I have noticed so far.
If I use my stock messaging app to send a group message, it ALWAYS sends out as a group message.
When using Handcent, sometimes, yes just sometimes, when I send out a group message, it will send to each individual contact in that group message. Most times Handcent works properly though. Then every now and then, it sends all individual messages.
Anybody with an Iphone, or another Sprint Galaxy s4, I have no problems with. Theyre replies always come back as a group text
One friend, who has an android on Verizon, when he replies to the group, I not only get his message as if its just coming from him to me, it is also blank, and I cant read it.
Another friend, has an android, not sure what provider, but his messages can be read, but they also come back to me as individual messages.
Is there a different ROM that will solve this issue? I am using Stock 4.2.2, but it is rooted.
This is really annoying, so I wanted to see if anyone has figured this out yet.
me too
This is very annoying to me too. here's what happens to me.
My s4 is on Tmobile prepaid(has been for years since flexpay)
I use Google Voice for calls n text.
I use the native sms app to send/receive.
I use google voice to send/receive and to start my group messages.
Now my native app is starting to not send long messages, roughly 20 characters or more.
Same for my google voice app since the new yr.
I can send out group messages from my google voice app but the replies come back as individual.
All 1,500+ of my contacts use my google voice number to talk to me.
I dont know if this is related but I use Google voice build 0.2.2.80 and will not update yet.
I've attached my version rom. I've used Jovy xtremeperia rom for yrs and its been the best rom I've used thus far. I jus started having issues a month ago with group messaging. I have not done anything different and I never update apps or my rom unless comments say otherwise.
someone please help us if you know anything. I do not use my regular number so if this issue is google voice related please advise. Thanks in advance