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Handscent Android group chat like iPhone

Well here it is my fellow androids. We asked for it and Handcent fell through. We should all thank Handcent and their developers for this new big update. Keep in mind this app is still in Beta stage. However, I tested it for a couple of days and I was able to chat with my fellow iPhone lovers. I was also able to chat with verizon Galaxy Nexus, Thunderbolt and LG revolution. I havent had a chance to chat with none Verizon phones. You guys will be our testers. Please list all bugs here and Ill forward the list to the developer. So far there are two bugs with this build. The first bug is double notifications on group mms and the second one is blurry background images with Droid Razor phones
Setup:
1. You must make this app default messaging app for all MMS and SMS.
"settings"->application settings->Default Messaging Application-> All(SMS&MMS)
2. You must enable Thread Group Conversation. Its all the way down in application settings
"settings"->application settings->group messaging->check Thread Group conversation
3. MMS retrieval should be set to Auto unless you want to download each group message.
4. You might experience some lag as the group mms pour in one after another. I think this is normal cuz I do experience it on my Razor maxx using the stock app since it has this this feature built in. In addition, I asked my freind with iPhone 4s if he experiences lag when all these group messages pour in and he said yes. Sometimes he cant touch his phone until all the messages have been received
5. Be gentle on me if I missed any bugs. Im already in the Dog house in my wifes book for spending too much time on this project. This is the reason why the developer is releasing the app for public feedback.
File got updated:
Fixed double notification
fixed some bugs
This file not in market, so you guys are Handcent beta testers.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/6yz8r9rbrec9c85/hc_sms.apk

Loving the capability! It seems to be working well.
Have one question/bug. Some replies say "Me:" and they go to the group. Some replies say "Me to name: and they are going individually to the group it appears.
I did not do anything different I don't think on any of the replies but I may be missing something or this could be a bug.
Thanks for the great feature!

tgrgrd00 said:
Loving the capability! It seems to be working well.
Have one question/bug. Some replies say "Me:" and they go to the group. Some replies say "Me to name: and they are going individually to the group it appears.
I did not do anything different I don't think on any of the replies but I may be missing something or this could be a bug.
Thanks for the great feature!
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What phone are you using? Can you send a screen shot. In other words when you reply to message, you are replying to yourself also? I had that at first was fixed. I wonder if each phone will have that bug
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trikotret said:
What phone are you using? Can you send a screen shot. In other words when you reply to message, you are replying to yourself also? I had that at first was fixed. I wonder if each phone will have that bug
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I am using the OG EVO. I will send you a PM with a screenshot.

tgrgrd00 said:
I am using the OG EVO. I will send you a PM with a screenshot.
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Go ahead send the screen shot and tonight ill email the developer. Unfortunately we didn't get a chance to test on none Verizon phones but I'm sure it's a quick fix.
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so testing it with cm9 on HTC evo 3D (sprint) doesn't seem to want to send group messages at all. Just get that continuous loading symbol and never sends. I'll test it on stock first and see if it is the problem with the rom and report back

tgrgrd00 said:
Loving the capability! It seems to be working well.
Have one question/bug. Some replies say "Me:" and they go to the group. Some replies say "Me to name: and they are going individually to the group it appears.
I did not do anything different I don't think on any of the replies but I may be missing something or this could be a bug.
Thanks for the great feature!
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I'm also experiencing this, Droid Charge on Gingerbread.

so i tested this out and it seems to work somewhat on stock rom, has trouble with cm9 it seems. big problem is i have to always manually download the mms to make it show up on the thread.

fsalazar504 said:
so i tested this out and it seems to work somewhat on stock rom, has trouble with cm9 it seems. big problem is i have to always manually download the mms to make it show up on the thread.
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Do you have mms setup as auto retrieve?
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tgrgrd00 said:
Loving the capability! It seems to be working well.
Have one question/bug. Some replies say "Me:" and they go to the group. Some replies say "Me to name: and they are going individually to the group it appears.
I did not do anything different I don't think on any of the replies but I may be missing something or this could be a bug.
Thanks for the great feature!
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The file has been update. Hopefully fix your issue.

So far I have had it "break" and resort to sending separate messages once. I have three theories as to why...
It may have been due to not completely removing my old Handcent beta first.
I was Texting with friends pretty frequently, and I noticed if I exit the thread and re-enter it would "convert to MMS", Maybe it drops out of MMS if you send several texts in a row?
The thread I was sending to had my google voice number in it, so I was essentially sending messages to myself at the same time.
Sometimes if you have a group message with say Joe Smith as a participant and a separate thread with Joe, getting the group text will show a notification for the separate thread and you have to do "mark as read" to fix it.
I am on a HTC Thunderbolt BTW.
Did not try the updated file yet, downloading now.

Morkai Almandragon said:
So far I have had it "break" and resort to sending separate messages once. I have three theories as to why...
It may have been due to not completely removing my old Handcent beta first.
I was Texting with friends pretty frequently, and I noticed if I exit the thread and re-enter it would "convert to MMS", Maybe it drops out of MMS if you send several texts in a row?
The thread I was sending to had my google voice number in it, so I was essentially sending messages to myself at the same time.
Sometimes if you have a group message with say Joe Smith as a participant and a separate thread with Joe, getting the group text will show a notification for the separate thread and you have to do "mark as read" to fix it.
I am on a HTC Thunderbolt BTW.
Did not try the updated file yet, downloading now.
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I think the new file supposed to fix this since they did find a bug. please post your results after you install new file

It works well for me.
Is there anything I can do about the <Subject: New Message> that shows up before every message?

bauerknight said:
It works well for me.
Is there anything I can do about the <Subject: New Message> that shows up before every message?
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I asked the developer about it. I did a test and sent a screen shot. I really love public Beta

trikotret said:
I think the new file supposed to fix this since they did find a bug. please post your results after you install new file
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Have not had the issue where the group message sends separate again, but this one is still happening...
Sometimes if you have a group message with say Joe Smith as a participant and a separate thread with Joe, getting the group text will show a notification for the separate thread and you have to do "mark as read" to fix it.

An issue happens when you send texts too quickly it sends you back to inbox and doesn't display the messages. From what my friends tell me it displays something weird in their group chat. I have to visually see it to confirm. Love that it actually works though
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fsalazar504 said:
An issue happens when you send texts too quickly it sends you back to inbox and doesn't display the messages. From what my friends tell me it displays something weird in their group chat. I have to visually see it to confirm. Love that it actually works though
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can you send me a screen shot please and Ill forward to developer.

How is it supposed to work? I tried it with my friend who has an iPhone but it didn't send messages via Internet service but normaly as SMS messages. Friend with iPhone tried to pull his sim card out of phone with no succes. Does it need any special settings to make it work?
Anyway I don't care much cause I have all my SMS free I just wanted to try that function.
I use HC Talk service to chat with my girlfriend everyday so there's no problem about functionless HC Service

loqan said:
How is it supposed to work? I tried it with my friend who has an iPhone but it didn't send messages via Internet service but normaly as SMS messages. Friend with iPhone tried to pull his sim card out of phone with no succes. Does it need any special settings to make it work?
Anyway I don't care much cause I have all my SMS free I just wanted to try that function.
I use HC Talk service to chat with my girlfriend everyday so there's no problem about functionless HC Service
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In the first post is suggests going to settings>application settings>default messaging application>set it to all sms and mms.
Then settings again>application settings>scroll all the way down>check the thread group conversation box.
Then should work
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trikotret said:
can you send me a screen shot please and Ill forward to developer.
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Ok I'll try and get one
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Permanent resolution for Group Texting? Tried it all..

So I bounce between my HD2 (Group Textings on OS works nearly perfect, just a little delay.) and my G2. I recently went back to my G2 due to options for apps. Ive tried Handcent & Go SMS..but they fall so short and have bugs/doesnt work.
Most my friends have iPhones & I still resist. Any permanent 'fixes' or options ive overlooked?

what is your problem with group texting? i cant think of a single rom that the default messaging app didnt support it. even dating back to the ol g1 days. maybe we have different ideas on how group texting should work...

demkantor said:
what is your problem with group texting? i cant think of a single rom that the default messaging app didnt support it. even dating back to the ol g1 days. maybe we have different ideas on how group texting should work...
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If someone includes me in a group text that hes say 5 different iphone #'s in it..If I respond it only gets sent to the original sender, and if I recieve 4 respones from 4 different reciepients itll be 4 individual texts "threads" besides the original one.
Am I missing something?

That's how every group message I've ever used worked. Unless some apps have a way to change that.
Sent from my EVO 3D, using TapaTalk 2.

I too have had this problem. I have settled on handcent. It is not perfect but it gets the job done. When I was doing my research some people were having luck with the verizon messaging app......
HammDroid - True group messaging performs more like a group chat. When the message comes through you can see sender and the other recipients of the message. When you reply it gets sent to the group. I believe it has become more popular due to iphone usage...

[Q] Auto Forward Text Messages 3G nexus 7

Hi,
I have recently been given a work phone and don't want to carry two phones.
I would like to keep my personal number so will continue that contract. I will set my carrier setting to auto forward calls to my work phone, but I would like a way to auto-forward SMS (text) messages to my work number, or email.
I have a nexus 7 3g and this seems like a good device to use as I can then still make use of my personal phone contract's internet access.
I installed the mms.apk app (thread found else where in this forum) and can now send and receive texts from my Nexus 7. But as it is not with me every day I want an automated way to get SMS messages to another number of email.
Does anyone know of an app which will let me auto forward SMS messages to a different number or to email? I'm happy to pay for the outbound message cost, but the only app I have found which *claims* compatibility is phoneleash and it does not forward anything.
Does anyone have a suggestion for how I can accomplish this?
Thanks
T.

You could just use an app that sends texts to the tablet like Cloud SMS. Then you could turn off the notifications on the phone.
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Thanks for the reply, but I think I have not been clear with my request.
I have a personal contract which my friends know the number for.
I want to keep this SIM in my tablet but forward any SMS message sent to my personal number to a work phone, so that I can just carry the work phone.
I have found Auto SMS since my last update, but this is not compatible with the nexus 7. I will see if there is a way to get this app to work.
I will update if I get any further.
T.

have you try mighty text? try that one first
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Thanks for the further replies here.
I don't think mighty text will work, it seems to be a way to read and reply to texts received on your phone, but handled by a tablet or computer as the viewing device.
I need a way to auto forward SMS messages to a different number.
Regards
Tony.

Progress
OK, I installed auto SMS onto my touchpad and then used titanium backup to extract the application.
I've side loaded this onto my nexus 7 and so far my tests have been successful.
The auto forwarded text messages come through as
<0123 123123> Mr FirstName SecondName: Content of message
I can either call the originator back, or switch to a new message and reply back directly via SMS from the work phone.
Thanks
T.

Acuum4 said:
OK, I installed auto SMS onto my touchpad and then used titanium backup to extract the application.
I've side loaded this onto my nexus 7 and so far my tests have been successful.
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I have the same problem as you, but I can't find auto SMS or extract the application (Nexus 7 is my only Android device).
Can you please share it somehow?
Thanks in advance!
Edit: in meanwhile I found and installed it, works well

Att S4 group message issues?

Loving the phone running wicked rom with kt kernel on att. Everything has been great but even with group messaging turned on I can send the group message but comes back one person reply in group message and the other not. Anyone experience this issue with the s4 yet? Thanks in advance.
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My phone originally seemed to work great for group texting....now doesn't seem to work...idk

And neither of you are on stock rom are you. The Rom you're on doesn't support group messages.
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I will check with my rom Dev and see if it's that has to be rom
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Group Messaging on both stock ROM and CM10.1 Nightlys have worked fine for me. It all depends on who you're sending it to and how they handle group messaging.
Prior to the S4 I had a iPhone 4S. I regularly have a group message with two iOS users, and one BlackBerry user.
On iOS 6.1.2, it handles it fine. One box for all 3 users. Every response from all 3 users would go into the same group box chat.
On my S4, with stock ROM, using both stock messaging apps and 3 different Messaging apps I tried out, and on CM10.1 Nightly, it has some issues but its the other devices causing the issue. Same 3 users, 2 iOS and one BlackBerry. I can group text all 3 users. They will all get my group text in a Single box. The two iOS users responses will show up in the group chat. However, the BlackBerry's response will show up in a separate box from just that user. (Hard to tell if they are talking to just me or the group).
This is due to the nature of group messaging. By the standard spec, MMS and SMS messages do not allow group messaging. However, there is non-standard protocol and headers in MMS and SMS that will allow for Group Messaging so long as the phone supports it. That's the tricky part. Because there's no standard for it, every phone and device implements it differently. When I send group chats its sent as a MMS message. iOS picks up on this and replies in kind with a MMS message. Apparently BlackBerry, at least the way my friend has it set up, it gets the group message but instead replies with a SMS. Apparently iOS had a way of deciphering that the SMS was a reply to that group chat, and throws it in the same group chat. However, Android is not able to tell that that SMS belongs to the group chat for some reason and interprets it as a separate text.
So it's all about what devices/settings your friends have set up and whether they reply in the correct manner that Android can respond in.
Thankfully for me 90% of my friends have iPhones which does support group messaging fully, at least where it can interact with my S4 properly, and so long as they have the "Group Messaging" function turned on it Settings>Messages, so it's not much of an issue for me. Just this one friend with a Blackberry I have a issue with. Theoretically you would run into issues with Android so long as they have Android 4.2+ or GoSMS or any 3rd party Messaging app that supports groups.

Switched from iphone now cant receive Imessages from other users

I just switched from iphone to nexus 4 and am on straight talk now.
I cant seem to get text from iphone unless my friends go in manually and change my contact info to send as sms and not as imessage. Needless to say thats alot of contacts to have change. I called apple support and they took my number off the imessage servers which is what i thought would work. Needless to say it still doesnt seem to work. They can receive my messages but i cant receive theirs. Does anyone have expeirce with this? Any ideas?

You aren't on iMessage anymore. It's proprietary. They'll need to switch to SMS when texting you. Sorry.

I never had an apple device so I'm not too sure about this, but maybe you can disable it somewhere in the settings of your apple id?
Edit:
If found some information on the apple support forums: https://discussions.apple.com/message/22436272#22436272

I would think it makes sense. Why would your nexus work with an I app. Daughter has iPhone 5. She text me just fine
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newtonfb said:
I just switched from iphone to nexus 4 and am on straight talk now.
I cant seem to get text from iphone unless my friends go in manually and change my contact info to send as sms and not as imessage. Needless to say thats alot of contacts to have change. I called apple support and they took my number off the imessage servers which is what i thought would work. Needless to say it still doesnt seem to work. They can receive my messages but i cant receive theirs. Does anyone have expeirce with this? Any ideas?
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Unfortunately, this is an issue with Apple. Slow process is to remove the device from your apple account. I forgot the link.
How I resolved it was by activating my account with an iPhone and changed the settings in messages to only send by sms, so it doesn't use iMessage anymore.
This resolved everything.

AdriVelazquez said:
Unfortunately, this is an issue with Apple. Slow process is to remove the device from your apple account. I forgot the link.
How I resolved it was by activating my account with an iPhone and changed the settings in messages to only send by sms, so it doesn't use iMessage anymore.
This resolved everything.
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oh k cool! glad you worked it out.