[Q] Messages app - not grouping all texts - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've seen this question pop up a lot, but I thought I would see if any Nexus 4 users are having a problem on 4.2.2.
I participate in a group SMS chat with 5 other people. Everyone is an iPhone user, except one person who is on a Blackberry. The text messages from the Blackberry user show up on my N4 as individual texts to me, not in the group message.
The only way I've gotten this working is by installed a 3rd party app called GO SMS Pro. Since installing that, the Blackberry user texts now show up in the group message on both applications (stock and 3rd party).
From everything I have read online about SMS and MMS, this would seem to be a problem with the Blackberry user's texts, and iPhone is just handling it better than Android.
I would really like for this to just work in the stock app. For now it is, but I don't like that it just magically started working after installing the 3rd party app.
Thoughts?

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Mass/group texting

I do a lot of mass texting, and because you're only allowed to text 10 people per text I had to download a 3rd party app called group "group sms". So I sent all the texts out (about 140) and it says they all were successfully sent with 0 failed. Unfortunately some of the people that I have sent the text to say they never received it.
Has anyone run into this problem? Any suggestions? I've already uninstalled and reinstalled the app.
Thanks
I THINK Handcent(sp?) allows mass texting. Please don't quote me on this as I don't use it. My buddy owned a sports bar and used to send out mass text on UFC nights for promo and he never mentioned having to do 10 at a time which would have been horridly time consuming.
blizzard1017 said:
I THINK Handcent(sp?) allows mass texting. Please don't quote me on this as I don't use it. My buddy owned a sports bar and used to send out mass text on UFC nights for promo and he never mentioned having to do 10 at a time which would have been horridly time consuming.
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Hancent does have group texting within itself.
I personally use and app called group text. I have encountered people saying that they did not receive a text from me but I just assumed it was on their end because the majority of people received it.
I use Group SMS and I have this same problem a lot! I prefer Group SMS because it actually appears as different chat strings within your SMS program. For some reason not every one seems to get the text though. I may have to go away from Group SMS if this is the case. My current SMS program is Chomp SMS which I like for texting but it sends group texts out as one big text and doesn't allow macro usage the same way Group SMS does.
Bottom line, if you're just looking to send out a few group texts with more than 10 recipients but don't want to change your sms program, I'd put handcent or chomp on your phone and just not set it as the default texting app, but use it to send out messages to your groups. Both Handcent and Chomp allow you to send to groups created in contacts.google as well (without selecting each contact individually like the native app).
Hope this helps,
Brian
I'm not sure how helpful this will be but with in gmail there is a utility from which you can send out mass text's or mass emails you have to set it up using specific servers for sprint, at&t, verizon and t-mobile. This is really only useful if you have a set list of people you want to send out texts to a list that doesnt frequently change. I apologize for not having more information as i very rarely use this feature. But it might be worth y'all taking a look.

[Q] group texting

I've looked throughout the forum and I haven't found any concrete answer to my problem. Is there any way I can receive group texts across platforms? So if my friend sends a text from his iphone to multiple people (including other iphone and android users), it will show in one thread? If there is a solution, can someone post step by step instructions? I saw that ATT messages does this but I don't like the UI. Sorry, I am new to android and would really appreciate the help.
EDIT: Also, if my friend sends that group text, if does show up in a thread, when I respond I want the app to respond back to everyone in that thread....thanks for the help guys
Without a 3rd party app, it's not possible. If your friends get Chat On or Whatsapp (I have both and they are both very good since they use data instead of cell to send messages. Also super fast), you could group chat across all platforms.
EDIT: Also some extra info about the apps, they are connected to your phone number so as long as anyone installs it, you will see them on your list. No need for usernames or anything, it uses your number. I also prefer the Whatsapp app because I guess it's a bit cleaner you could say but they are both good.
You can do group texting with Handcent and goSMS...need to enable an option in settings.

Att S4 group message issues?

Loving the phone running wicked rom with kt kernel on att. Everything has been great but even with group messaging turned on I can send the group message but comes back one person reply in group message and the other not. Anyone experience this issue with the s4 yet? Thanks in advance.
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My phone originally seemed to work great for group texting....now doesn't seem to work...idk
And neither of you are on stock rom are you. The Rom you're on doesn't support group messages.
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I will check with my rom Dev and see if it's that has to be rom
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Group Messaging on both stock ROM and CM10.1 Nightlys have worked fine for me. It all depends on who you're sending it to and how they handle group messaging.
Prior to the S4 I had a iPhone 4S. I regularly have a group message with two iOS users, and one BlackBerry user.
On iOS 6.1.2, it handles it fine. One box for all 3 users. Every response from all 3 users would go into the same group box chat.
On my S4, with stock ROM, using both stock messaging apps and 3 different Messaging apps I tried out, and on CM10.1 Nightly, it has some issues but its the other devices causing the issue. Same 3 users, 2 iOS and one BlackBerry. I can group text all 3 users. They will all get my group text in a Single box. The two iOS users responses will show up in the group chat. However, the BlackBerry's response will show up in a separate box from just that user. (Hard to tell if they are talking to just me or the group).
This is due to the nature of group messaging. By the standard spec, MMS and SMS messages do not allow group messaging. However, there is non-standard protocol and headers in MMS and SMS that will allow for Group Messaging so long as the phone supports it. That's the tricky part. Because there's no standard for it, every phone and device implements it differently. When I send group chats its sent as a MMS message. iOS picks up on this and replies in kind with a MMS message. Apparently BlackBerry, at least the way my friend has it set up, it gets the group message but instead replies with a SMS. Apparently iOS had a way of deciphering that the SMS was a reply to that group chat, and throws it in the same group chat. However, Android is not able to tell that that SMS belongs to the group chat for some reason and interprets it as a separate text.
So it's all about what devices/settings your friends have set up and whether they reply in the correct manner that Android can respond in.
Thankfully for me 90% of my friends have iPhones which does support group messaging fully, at least where it can interact with my S4 properly, and so long as they have the "Group Messaging" function turned on it Settings>Messages, so it's not much of an issue for me. Just this one friend with a Blackberry I have a issue with. Theoretically you would run into issues with Android so long as they have Android 4.2+ or GoSMS or any 3rd party Messaging app that supports groups.

Group messaging problems and getting back replies as individual messages

So I have seen stuff all over the web about this topic, but have yet to find an answer. I am one of the many folks that has a problem with group messaging not working correctly. Here is what I have noticed so far.
If I use my stock messaging app to send a group message, it ALWAYS sends out as a group message.
When using Handcent, sometimes, yes just sometimes, when I send out a group message, it will send to each individual contact in that group message. Most times Handcent works properly though. Then every now and then, it sends all individual messages.
Anybody with an Iphone, or another Sprint Galaxy s4, I have no problems with. Theyre replies always come back as a group text
One friend, who has an android on Verizon, when he replies to the group, I not only get his message as if its just coming from him to me, it is also blank, and I cant read it.
Another friend, has an android, not sure what provider, but his messages can be read, but they also come back to me as individual messages.
Is there a different ROM that will solve this issue? I am using Stock 4.2.2, but it is rooted.
This is really annoying, so I wanted to see if anyone has figured this out yet.
me too
This is very annoying to me too. here's what happens to me.
My s4 is on Tmobile prepaid(has been for years since flexpay)
I use Google Voice for calls n text.
I use the native sms app to send/receive.
I use google voice to send/receive and to start my group messages.
Now my native app is starting to not send long messages, roughly 20 characters or more.
Same for my google voice app since the new yr.
I can send out group messages from my google voice app but the replies come back as individual.
All 1,500+ of my contacts use my google voice number to talk to me.
I dont know if this is related but I use Google voice build 0.2.2.80 and will not update yet.
I've attached my version rom. I've used Jovy xtremeperia rom for yrs and its been the best rom I've used thus far. I jus started having issues a month ago with group messaging. I have not done anything different and I never update apps or my rom unless comments say otherwise.
someone please help us if you know anything. I do not use my regular number so if this issue is google voice related please advise. Thanks in advance

Samsung Messages or Google Messages

Just got my S10+ this week, and have been busy playing with settings, etc..I'm coming over from the Note 8 (AT&T).
Question for everyone. Do you prefer the built in Samsung Messages app, or Google Messages. I like both, especially now with the dark them more readily available.
What makes me lean more towards Google Messages is the ability to get messages on the web/browser. Was using it all the time on the Note 8.
Wanted to ask if anybody has switched back/forth between the two messaging apps, and if they have encountered any issues? I had switched from Google Messages back to Samsung's message app on the Note 8, and my messages were being sent to the wrong person. That's not a good situation to be in. I ended up switching back because of that.
Also, I noticed there is an updated apk for Samsung messages. My S10+ is using v 10.0.10.111. Looks like they are up to v 10.0.20.37. Anybody install that apk? Any good/bad things in there?
TIA
Coming from an S7 edge i was forced off Google Messages due to the handling of group messages. Sometimes it would work but other times texts that belonged in a group would come in separately. I would then have to click to download the text before it popped back into the group. Other times those texts would show up as expired (even though i just received them) and i would never see what it was. Needless to say i couldn't use it anymore so i ended up using Samsung Messages which never has that issue. Now that i'm on S10+ i'm tempted to try Google Messages again in hopes that it works the way is should as i do prefer it over Samsung Messages just due to the look and of course the web messages.
I've been flip-flopping between: Textra, Google Messages, and Samsung messages.......I've decided to stick with Google Messages.
The Samsung app, feels dated.... I do like the notifications I get when sending to other (At&t) users using the Samsung messaging app (tells when read, or they're replying...ect...), but I only have 1 person out of my 200+ contacts that it's worked on (my 17yr old son, who hates the Samsung messaging app). Plus, it just feels dated. No swipe to delete and long messages require you to "read more".
Textra is the lightest of the bunch, and I've been using for the past 4 or 5 years..... It's also the most customizable. But, Google has upped their game on the last release and incremental updates. It just feels "native" to the phone now. I also like the fact when you receive a PIN number, it recognizes this and copies just the PIN for you.
Google Messages gets my vote
BTW: No issues with group messages for me on the Google Message app
I like the Google messages app very much, but since the update to OneUI I have been using the Samsung version as it's good enough and themes the same way as the other Samsung stock apps, which I like a lot.
I prefer Truecaller messages because of its spam feature..
I love Google messages over Samsung. It worked perfect when i was with ATT. Now that i'm with Verizon I've had issues with google messages. They would come through late or not come at all. Switching to Samsung messages seemed to clear this issue up, as far as i know. No one has said they texted me and i didn't reply. Although that doesn't mean its working correctly, i may not have been aware of missing texts.. Anyone else had any issues with Verizon? i read somewhere a while back that Verizon text messages only worked right when using Verizon messages app. Not sure why that is... Or if it's true. If anyone can shed any light on whether there is, or is not an issue with Verizon messaging if not using Verizon app.
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I love Google messages over Samsung. It worked perfect when i was with ATT. Now that i'm with Verizon I've had issues with google messages. They would come through late or not come at all. Switching to Samsung messages seemed to clear this issue up, as far as i know. No one has said they texted me and i didn't reply. Although that doesn't mean its working correctly, i may not have been aware of missing texts.. Anyone else had any issues with Verizon? i read somewhere a while back that Verizon text messages only worked right when using Verizon messages app. Not sure why that is... Or if it's true. If anyone can shed any light on whether there is, or is not an issue with Verizon messaging if not using Verizon app.
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Been using Google Messages for last like 2 years and never seem to have had any problems on Verizon besides the typical sending and receiving from an iPhone of videos etc
Textra every day of the week!
One more benefit of using Google messages is you can enable chat feature now.
sharmajay said:
One more benefit of using Google messages is you can enable chat feature now.
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Not in the United States. At least not yet.
It is live for 2 of my phones now
Using Google messages, but really like the ability to pin conversations to the top in Samsung app.
Sent feature request to Google..lol
I prefer Android Messages over the stock one.
I love google messages but 2 minor things why I don’t use it on my s10 .
1. Wish google messages had schedule send sms feature . I use that quite a bit . No where in google messenger can I find this option .
2. The notification doesn’t have a pop up view bubble, quick read notification come on the top of the screen when I receive text . Couldn’t find a way to get google messages to do that like stock app notification does .
If there is a fix for both I’d switch back to google messages.
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I prefer Samsung over Google mainly because of the ability to pin conversation and star message, the pop up bubble.
If Samsung had scheduler that would be awesome.
There's Qsms which is quite good but I don't want additional apps installed when Samsung messages works atm .
I use Samsung messages at the moment. But the one thing I really miss from Google messages is swipe to archive conversations...I liked to be able to hide conversations I don't use a lot without having to delete them.
mastaofdacat said:
I love google messages but 2 minor things why I don’t use it on my s10 .
1. Wish google messages had schedule send sms feature . I use that quite a bit . No where in google messenger can I find this option .
2. The notification doesn’t have a pop up view bubble, quick read notification come on the top of the screen when I receive text . Couldn’t find a way to get google messages to do that like stock app notification does .
If there is a fix for both I’d switch back to google messages.
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You can enable the bubble for Google Messenges notifications in Advanced Settings/Smart Pop-up View.

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