My X8 runned on GDX every since the v12-13 came out til now, and i was experiencing random boots and freezes every while. (was on dx's LinuxDX then transfered to Alfs (all up to date)), and i decided to try new ROM.
I put on miniCM9 with nAa latest kernel and gave it a shot.
Same thing. I installed it 3 hours ago, already had a random reboot, and performance is awful, freezes, stopped responding apps...
I overclocked to every single value, tried every governor, did swap, KSM, u name it i tried it...
How to fix this? I thought everyone was experinceing that :/
Suggestions?
(Sry 4 bad english)
How much did u overclocked to?
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Thats not a problem, most of the time i stayed at 600-691 high, i tried to go higher but even worse. If there are problems at 600, i dont think its the processor... (my guess)
Install any lighter rom, cm7 or cm6.
Try shin engine rom, even very powerful and faster in stock kernel
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I'm using MiniCM9 for 3 days (or more?) now. the ROM was extremely lag at the first time I got it installed. then I overclock the CPU to 806Mhz +128MB swap + AMM + Greenify. these makes my phone flying(just metaphors lol) and imma keep this running until I switch to other JB ROM.
Maybe it runs fast but not that fast like froyo. Android 4 and up is designed for better phones, every app is much more heavier than on for example froyo. Froyo with custom kernel is really flying on this phone. App like phone, sms, settings starts in less than 2 sec - this is impossible on ics, jb. Next thing which is really annoying on 4.1 that it can't be used with one finger (no zoom buttons) and fake dt causes errors on new kernel. Music works really bad on 4.1, sound has lower quality, and music is very laggy. It has lag every time you try to wake up screen, back to home etc.
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Maybe it runs fast but not that fast like froyo. Android 4 and up is designed for better phones, every app is much more heavier than on for example froyo. Froyo with custom kernel is really flying on this phone. App like phone, sms, settings starts in less than 2 sec - this is impossible on ics, jb. Next thing which is really annoying on 4.1 that it can't be used with one finger (no zoom buttons) and fake dt causes errors on new kernel. Music works really bad on 4.1, sound has lower quality, and music is very laggy. It has lag every time you try to wake up screen, back to home etc.
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what jb kernel/rom are you talking about? while i agree that froyopro is faster (it is froyo), naa's jb rom is far from what you described. i don't experience sleep of death anymore. sound quality is the same (it's more of a hardware thing although there are some tweaks to improve it by a little), and i'm using playerpro not the default app and it though it doesn't start as fast as froyopro the difference at most is a second. apps you mention start in 2 secs on jb. fake dt is fixable by using dx's module instead of the default. on top of that i have tsf shell on my x8 with jb and smart launcher on my x8 with froyopro. 90 apps in all. i've beem using minicm10 since naa first released it. and i've also tried daveee's jb rom which is quite good.
froyopro (i prefer froyobread tbh) may be faster, but jb roms aren't as horrible as you make them out to be.
Just because i don't doesn't mean i can't.
I know, I was using fake dt by dx but it causing errors. In some games when you touch by two fingers it's getting force close Ok, apps starts in 2 sec but only if you haven't got any cached apps. Music (I can live with lower quality) is laggy, it makes my very angry. Next thing is that you shouldn't use heavy apps with background processes because it slows down phone. I need some apps like maps or facebook messenger. I know about Greenify but that isn't a point. I'm using liveview - it is bluetooth watch, it need to have a few processes in background. Connection on jb is unstable when you try to do something on phone (exacly as on eclair).
I don't know, maybe my x8 don't like jelly beans
point taken. probably the biggest factor that causes us different experiences with jb roms are the apps we have and use. i don't use greenify either. i don't use task killers at all. well, different people have different needs. my x8 likes beans though. and we're way off topic.
@op: have you tried a clean flash? maybe even reflash kernel?
Just because i don't doesn't mean i can't.
@cascabel
you're right !! there are lots of JB roms, but some of them good for daily use.. JB roms need to tweak the build.prop a little bit..
i run MiniCM10 with high performance(ofcoursethebatterywon'tholdlong) tweaking=boostperformance...
I tried almost everything, reflashing too, i only dont have random reboots and freezes on stock
day two on cm9, its been better than the early start but still horrible :/
I could try cm10 and see if my X8 likes jb, if dont, hello froyopro...
P.S: I think cell signal can be problem. My signal is constantly weak, every once in a while signal kinda disables itself (no signal) then it stays for a couple of seconds that way, then goes back to 3-4 bars 8at home). When i talk on mobile with someone, every couple of minutes im getting kicked out of call, because of that signal fail....
I dunno if that is case with stock rom, cause i havent been on him much ...
Thoughts?
i believe it is the carrier's problem my friend, you are being disconnected because the one's you are calling have no signal
plus, every while i have to write pin code on and one because cellfhone kinda restartes, not fully, just freezes in browser for example, stays at that for about of minute and returns to lockscreen with asking me to put on a pin code. So thats a celling problem i guess.
Also, thats an issue with wifi too, keeps restarting every 5-10 minutes, depends on distance between me and router, and that cell and wifi signal, when they are low/no signal, restarting, my phone is kinda strugling and that causes freezing, blocking, restarting (x8 is not very powerfull to keep strugling so it kinda restarts). I thought its a ram problem, but on alfs thats not the case, (im not sure for nAa) so it has to be something else. I hope I found it..
Dayum, im awesome
Tnx everyone
Firstly when you said you were running CM9 with the "latest naa kernel", did you mean 2.6.32.6 or 2.6.29.6? Because that can make a huge difference.
Just use ES Task Manager and disabled app that you do not want to use it..
by using the startup manager setting to enabled or disabled app..
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Just use ES Task Manager and disabled app that you do not want to use it..
by using the startup manager setting to enabled or disabled app..
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then simply remove the app you're not using. we've been through countless task manager/killer apps discussions it's not funny anymore.
Just because i don't doesn't mean i can't.
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It usually didn't happened
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Err..what? This is not the way to get 10 posts.
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I feel embarrassed to have to ask this, and I know a lot of people hate this type of post. I want a suggestion for what custom ROM to flash.
I started flashing about 5 months ago with Darky's ROM. And now I like my phone. ( I won't say love, because I love my parents, my children, StarTrek, BSG, hot girls, and icecream and that's it). BUT, the more I flash, the more I get annoyed with the gliches. Darky's 10.1 didn't have working GTalk (w/ Camera), and sometimes has some bugs. I lately flashed Ruyyo EDB1.1 (JVP ROM), but sometimes the phone restarts or crashes, and every 3 days or so, SOMETHING runs down the battery (meaning, the phone over-heats, acts slow, and loses all battery in 5 hours). That might be because of an app, but I think its on the rom. The main apps I use are HandcentSMS, ADW-Ex, and Multi-picture live wall paper. And Gmail (which is FCing every time I restart the phone)
Now there are so many ROMs out, I don't know which one to get. All say they are stable and fast...and I'm sure for many people they are. But I am searching for suggestins. I cannot try out many because I live in China, and because of the damn stupid retarded Great Firewall of China, all downloads of ROMs from Multi-upload are slow (and I need special software to access that site).
So...I'm looking for a ROM which is really stable, which I do not need to do a wipe-flash with and can install with CWM. I would prefer that it use the same lag-fix solution as the Darky ROM so that I can go back to it when they update ...but as I don't every actually activate the lag-fix, probably does not matter.
I'm looking for a ROM which must have voodoo sound (the ability to use my phone with my own AKG earphones without having to unplug said earphones when I answer a call is what convinced me to keep the SGS instead of getting an iPhone4... so this is critical)
I need my ROM to support live wallpapers, so that I can use my LCARS wallpaper with multi-pic.
I prefer my ROM to support the Samsung Music player with the integrated lock-screen widget.
I really prefer ROM which has the front-camera fixed and google-talk operating.
Any suggestions are appreciated.
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I feel embarrassed to have to ask this, and I know a lot of people hate this type of post. I want a suggestion for what custom ROM to flash.
I started flashing about 5 months ago with Darky's ROM. And now I like my phone. ( I won't say love, because I love my parents, my children, StarTrek, BSG, hot girls, and icecream and that's it). BUT, the more I flash, the more I get annoyed with the gliches. Darky's 10.1 didn't have working GTalk (w/ Camera), and sometimes has some bugs. I lately flashed Ruyyo EDB1.1 (JVP ROM), but sometimes the phone restarts or crashes, and every 3 days or so, SOMETHING runs down the battery (meaning, the phone over-heats, acts slow, and loses all battery in 5 hours). That might be because of an app, but I think its on the rom. The main apps I use are HandcentSMS, ADW-Ex, and Multi-picture live wall paper. And Gmail (which is FCing every time I restart the phone)
Now there are so many ROMs out, I don't know which one to get. All say they are stable and fast...and I'm sure for many people they are. But I am searching for suggestins. I cannot try out many because I live in China, and because of the damn stupid retarded Great Firewall of China, all downloads of ROMs from Multi-upload are slow (and I need special software to access that site).
So...I'm looking for a ROM which is really stable, which I do not need to do a wipe-flash with and can install with CWM. I would prefer that it use the same lag-fix solution as the Darky ROM so that I can go back to it when they update ...but as I don't every actually activate the lag-fix, probably does not matter.
I'm looking for a ROM which must have voodoo sound (the ability to use my phone with my own AKG earphones without having to unplug said earphones when I answer a call is what convinced me to keep the SGS instead of getting an iPhone4... so this is critical)
I need my ROM to support live wallpapers, so that I can use my LCARS wallpaper with multi-pic.
I prefer my ROM to support the Samsung Music player with the integrated lock-screen widget.
I really prefer ROM which has the front-camera fixed and google-talk operating.
Any suggestions are appreciated.
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Sounds very much like what I am looking for also. I am on Darky at the moment as well. I just want a good, fresh and 100% stable ROM.
- I need root
- Lagfix would be nice
- Needs to be able to work well with Launcher Pro Plus
- Good battery life
- BLN essential
We all need roms that are stable, fast, and with a good battery life... I think I've tried all main SGS roms, but at the end I think I'll stick with MIUI.
I liked Darky's rom, but I've got too many force-closes... maybe it was my fault because I didn't flash it correctly.
But for a month or so I've used MIUI... it's the fastest rom... You've got tons of lockscreens.. including samsung's (I think). Battery life it's not the best, but the devs are really working on making this rom perfect. For example.. for Galnet... this week 2 updates came out, and we're waiting for a big one friday.
My advice: give MIUI a try and you won't be disapointed
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We all need roms that are stable, fast, and with a good battery life... I think I've tried all main SGS roms, but at the end I think I'll stick with MIUI.
I liked Darky's rom, but I've got too many force-closes... maybe it was my fault because I didn't flash it correctly.
But for a month or so I've used MIUI... it's the fastest rom... You've got tons of lockscreens.. including samsung's (I think). Battery life it's not the best, but the devs are really working on making this rom perfect. For example.. for Galnet... this week 2 updates came out, and we're waiting for a big one friday.
My advice: give MIUI a try and you won't be disapointed
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There are three reasons why I did not try MIUI. BUT, my reasons may be flawed.
1. In my understanding, MIUI is based on Cryogen (or something like that), which requires that I flash (wipe-flash?) a Froyo ROM first. Which means that I have to download two huge files through the Great FireWall of China. I know that's a lame reason...but that's a fair amount of work for me. Not to mention reloading all my apps.
2. In my understanding, CM (and hence MIUI) does not have the Voodoo sound and does not have the Samsung Music app. The music app is not so big a deal because (in my understanding), CM and MIUI have their own in-notification-bar music controls (which is why I like the Samsung music app). However, I need Voodoo sound in order to allow use of my own headphone while talking on the telephone.
3. In my understanding, MIUI is supposed to look like iOS, which I do not like.
Please let me know if my understandings are wrong.
I also didn't try it because I don't want to flash an updated version twice a week. I want a good working ROM from the start with no need to update until the next Android version comes out.
I am oso on darky's rom previously but having same issue. Then tried Tweaky's rom and Juwe's rom too. Juwe's rom is fast but its bit dull colored and lack of sgs2 apps like Tweaky's rom.Now I am using my own rom base on JVP with Talon kernel with OC, actually it's a mix and match of Tweaky n Juwe's rom. Everything is working so far with some sgs2 apps, tw4, gtalk with video call.Flash n wipe is a must for a start. If u r interested I can post a link for u.
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CM7 (CyanogenMod7) has Voodoo Sound for sure, even Voodoo Colour. BLN should also be possible with a custom kernel.
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best looking rom, fast and reliable its galnet mui. Battery life it;s not great yet but galnet its working hard to fix.
i think that after flashing couple of roms you will decide.
My advice: Juwe's Smart Edition v5.0 XXJVP .... he have all what you need .... and much more
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My advice: Juwe's Smart Edition v5.0 XXJVP .... he have all what you need .... and much more
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I'm gonna go with that. What's the best way to flash from Darky 10.1? Disable lag, wipe, flash official and then juwe?
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I'm gonna go with that. What's the best way to flash from Darky 10.1? Disable lag, wipe, flash official and then juwe?
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Exactly. Just diable lagfix, full factory reset and finally flash Juwe's ROM with CWM.
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I tried most of these roms. I tried to play dungeon defenders with some roms. Holy.. that was very laggy and and unplayable. Now I'm on MIUI 2.2 rom. I tried dungeon defenders again. Wow.. Smooth and smooth... all FPS are X2 on quadrant. My device clock is 1600 mhz max as default as miui. Sometimes it stucks and restarts. But galnet works really hard. And battery is not the best ok. But thats worth it. You can download different themes with theme manager. Also there is an air update app for muiu. Which updates your device latest miui. I l
will stick with that..
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i m using galnet miui also
but the updates is too fast for me to chase
i came from mcgv5.3 to miui 2.2 without going thru mcgv 7.6
personally wat i think miui lacks off is the slide to call or sms from contacts and phone calls there
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Exactly. Just diable lagfix, full factory reset and finally flash Juwe's ROM with CWM.
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Why factory reset? Why not just do no-wipe flash with CWM?
Part of my problem is that there are a lot of ROMs, and if I'm wiping everytime I do a new ROM, its takes quite a while to restore to full functionality...albiet the end result may be more stable.
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I tried most of these roms. I tried to play dungeon defenders with some roms. Holy.. that was very laggy and and unplayable. Now I'm on MIUI 2.2 rom. I tried dungeon defenders again. Wow.. Smooth and smooth... all FPS are X2 on quadrant. My device clock is 1600 mhz max as default as miui. Sometimes it stucks and restarts. But galnet works really hard. And battery is not the best ok. But thats worth it. You can download different themes with theme manager. Also there is an air update app for muiu. Which updates your device latest miui. I l
will stick with that..
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So you are saying that you had better battery life with others, and MIUI sometimes gets stuck, but you like MIUI because its faster for games and themes? That's not really what I need (although I do like the notification options I saw on it has). I am more not into this because I'm not into having to Flash back to Froyo in order to install.
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CM7 (CyanogenMod7) has Voodoo Sound for sure, even Voodoo Colour. BLN should also be possible with a custom kernel.
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Hearing this, I'm tempted to bite the bullet and go through the CM7 install proceedure. I then will have to upload the google apps and the new google talk. But the end result may be pretty cool (assuming does not drain battery more than other ROMs). Thanks for the info.
MIUI rom doesnt stuck and restarts as your think. Battery life is not horrible. You can control your headset in miui with different module like voodoo sound. I think thats the best rom to stick now. You can get air updates and you dont need to wipe your data for updates. Just give it a try. I guess you will like it.
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MIUI rom doesnt stuck and restarts as your think. Battery life is not horrible. You can control your headset in miui with different module like voodoo sound. I think thats the best rom to stick now. You can get air updates and you dont need to wipe your data for updates. Just give it a try. I guess you will like it.
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Thank you. I don't think it gets stuck. Its just that you said in previous post "Sometimes it stucks and restarts." I may try this out. I think I'm going to wait and see what this JVQ-based ROM is like before I do any ROM which requires a wipe.
Slightly off-topic...About my phone...I'm not sure, but I think sometimes the heavy battery drain and restarts are caused by Handcent SMS. I downloaded an app called "OSMonitor" It showed that sometimes Android System is continuously using 40% of CPU, and at those times, Handcent is using 50% of CPU. I guess I should delete Handcent and see if my phone gets better stability and performance. Seems maybe the stability problems were might be blamed in the wrong place. BUT...I really like Handcent...
I'm in a similar situation and decided the only way to get what I want is to put it together myself. This also means you probably wont have the latest and greatest because they might be cool but not always the most stable.
What you can do is, get a deodexed stock rom, install a stable kernel with the mods you need (voodoo, bln, rooted and busybox etc) than use Titanium backup to remove all the things you don't want. presto, you'll have what you wanted...
I think the best option is CM7.
Greetings.
I have CM7 and must re-charge every 8h... Moderate use. Are other ROMs better battery-wise?
Is your G3 a reliable phone? All of us on XDA have superduper custom ROMs and OC kernels and what not, it's all really great and I'm thankfull to the developers for that. But, it seems it makes the phone so very unreliable. It happened to me 100 times that I need to make a very important call and the phone just starts laging or freezes. Today it happened to me twice, once I had to call my friend and the other time I was expecting a call. Both of the times the phone freezed. Don't get me wrong, I can call anyone at anytime and talk for hours but in case of emergency it seems that the phone would melt in my hands. It's not just about calling but thats what you mostly need if something important arises.
After i flash a new rom, everything is nice and smooth but after some time, the phone is not that responsive. It depends on the rom and/or kernel, it may take a few days (like now in my case) or a few months. I must say that i didn't have any problems with CM7 A4, even after months of usage, but then i got bored of some stuff not working and then I flashed Speed rom base, after three days the phone was unreliable. It may be the different filesystems, when i changed to ext2/4/2 the phone seemed less responsive than before. Now I changed back to RFS to see if it makes any difference.
well, speedmod base was just a base, you should flash v1.0 on it via recovery...
and this responsiveness and freezing is mostly because of the kernel...tell me which kernel are you on??
@kacipeder
I keep a spare phone
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well, speedmod base was just a base, you should flash v1.0 on it via recovery...
and this responsiveness and freezing is mostly because of the kernel...tell me which kernel are you on??
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Speedmod base is just what i need, v1.0 extreme has some apps and features that i don't need or have downloaded allready. I don't need LW, 5 Lockscreen etc.
I'm using g3mod performance kernel, fequency at 760 performance, screen lock 190-570 ondemand, and some battery specific profiles. I think the problem is in filesystems, yesterday i switched back to all RFS from ext2/4/2. Phone was faster immediately, especialy after unlocking, runs better with low frequncy like 380mhz. I'm sure that it's not placebo because i noticed small lag when i first switched to ext2/4/2. The problem is in data/ext4. Ext4 uses more CPU because it has some journaling, safety mesures and stuff and since our G3 has low CPU power, it makes it lag, very noticable with low CPU freq.. Ext4 is supposed to remove lags but I think it adds lags on some devices, including G3. So, if RFS gives you lags (not to me) use all partitions to ext2.
My back button does not work randomly, been down to service centre 3 times in 3 weeks and its still not fixed
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So far handset is very reliable. Cant complain at all. Runing stock jpq with g3mod. 400-1400 on demand
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Love this fone but yes that happened to me as well. Sometimes in emergency i cant rely on it.
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mine is realy reliable I have had some problems with some roms (not mentioning names) but now I have no problems, if you want very stable go for a stock rom or try lower OC like fugumod 2.4 beta3 800mhz or g3mod performance kernel at 950 mhz. also make sure to set up some profiles and use performance for optimal use it drains battery faster dough but with profiles it should be no problem
I am on my own ROM now based on DTLKDA. take a look here but there are some other good roms out there.
Hope I helped
ps: DTLKDA is the most stable ROM out there download link :DTLKDA password is: samfirmware.com
DTLKDA is the most stable rom? How do you know? Too bad its for the US, i like croatian on my phone. I did a small test today. I converted all partitions to ext4, immediatly after boot the phone was lagish, it freezed in minutes then launcher pro stopped responding. So this is the proof that ext4 is no good for our device. I switched back to RFS, tomorow I will do the test with ext2, but I doubt there will be any difference when compared to RFS
Try destiny 1.3 rom (oc, no uv). Its rock sollid on my g3!
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DTLKDA is the most stable rom? How do you know? Too bad its for the US, i like croatian on my phone. I did a small test today. I converted all partitions to ext4, immediatly after boot the phone was lagish, it freezed in minutes then launcher pro stopped responding. So this is the proof that ext4 is no good for our device. I switched back to RFS, tomorow I will do the test with ext2, but I doubt there will be any difference when compared to RFS
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I know because I have used almost every stock ROM, and yes its a us firmware but that doesn't mean you can't use it in croatia.
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Absolutely reliable..am on stock JPM..no lags or freezes at all..only problem I have is occasional camera crash.
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I know because I have used almost every stock ROM, and yes its a us firmware but that doesn't mean you can't use it in croatia.
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I mean, I want croatian UI language, that is not avaliable in US firmware. Anyway, I think i solved my problem, seems that filesystem was guilty. For two days now no crashes, freezes, anything. I will now wait and see how it behaves in emergency situations
I am using Stock XXJPM with launcher pro.Never hangs,laggs wtih superb battery(lasts almost 2 days with 1-2h of calls and 1-2 h of edge internet.)
Hey guys,
So, the wife decided to get an Android and we bought the HTC Wildfire S. This low-end (or mid-range?) device packs a 600MHz CPU, 512MB RAM and Android 2.3.3.
When we first turned it on, I noticed opening-closing apps was so fast that I was shocked, really shocked, compared to my SGS. This was the first time I was able to actually compare two Android phones. She has been using it for like a month now, and the phone is as fast as when we bought it.
On my SGS I am on stock XXJVO + Voodoo Lagfix, nothing else. Just standard apps installed and LauncherPro (paid). However, I feel that opening and closing apps is not as fast as the Wildfire S. It takes a few seconds to change interfaces, and what bothers me more is that it takes like 2 seconds to close an app and show the homescreen (pressing the back button several times, I don't use Home much).
On the Wildfire S you can browse through the interfaces extremely fast, everything opens and closes immediately. There is absolute no lag at all, really, no matter what app you're closing.
My question is, why is the SGS feels so laggy and slow compared to a low-end phone like the Wildfire S? Is it the ROM I'm using? Is it the launcher? I've tried rebooting it, battery pull and everything, but still, its slow.
I'd love to hear your input on this. Have you guys experienced some sort of laggyness when opening-closing apps as well? Or is it just my phone?
Thank you all!
I've compared the Desire S with and without a custom ROM to my Galaxy S, and for some reason HTC Sense is just really fast and with custom ROM was about the same as my Galaxy S. So I guess it's just HTC Sense.
Install Cyanogenmod 7. Makes the SGS far faster than the wildfire s and makes the Samsung ROMs like JVO look prehistoric.
Insanity cm.....all is instant
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Hey guys,
So, the wife decided to get an Android and we bought the HTC Wildfire S. This low-end (or mid-range?) device packs a 600MHz CPU, 512MB RAM and Android 2.3.3.
When we first turned it on, I noticed opening-closing apps was so fast that I was shocked, really shocked, compared to my SGS. This was the first time I was able to actually compare two Android phones. She has been using it for like a month now, and the phone is as fast as when we bought it.
On my SGS I am on stock XXJVO + Voodoo Lagfix, nothing else. Just standard apps installed and LauncherPro (paid). However, I feel that opening and closing apps is not as fast as the Wildfire S. It takes a few seconds to change interfaces, and what bothers me more is that it takes like 2 seconds to close an app and show the homescreen (pressing the back button several times, I don't use Home much).
On the Wildfire S you can browse through the interfaces extremely fast, everything opens and closes immediately. There is absolute no lag at all, really, no matter what app you're closing.
My question is, why is the SGS feels so laggy and slow compared to a low-end phone like the Wildfire S? Is it the ROM I'm using? Is it the launcher? I've tried rebooting it, battery pull and everything, but still, its slow.
I'd love to hear your input on this. Have you guys experienced some sort of laggyness when opening-closing apps as well? Or is it just my phone?
Thank you all!
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yes its true no matter what roms ive used but comparing to my motorola nd other low end spice i think sgs shld ave been much or twice fast but boldly its not...even my nokia touch is much better than it.but still sgs rules on screen,size,feel...so i wonder when a 2ghz dual core phone comes out,wat will sgs look like....
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yes its true no matter what roms ive used but comparing to my motorola nd other low end spice i think sgs shld ave been much or twice fast but boldly its not...even my nokia touch is much better than it.but still sgs rules on screen,size,feel...so i wonder when a 2ghz dual core phone comes out,wat will sgs look like....
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I have found that LPP is really laggy with gingerbread update. Maybe, even before. I had been using only launcher pro for more than 4-5 months, and was surprised by the speed, when I switched to another launcher. Some operations, like adding shortcut to applications or even adding widgets would take a long time in launcher pro.
Have you tried other home launchers?
FYI, I have tried some low-end phones (HTC wildfire, Dell XCD 35 aka ZTE Blade) and some decent ones (Nexus S,HTC Desire(not much),SE Arc,SE X10,SGS 2)..
And,I find a proper SGS (custom ROM based on stock+custom kernel ) to be perform similar to a Nexus S or SE Arc.
Since the i9000 launch there was some serious lag problems with the Galaxy S, otherwise lag fixes wouldn't be popular as they were (and probably still are).
Things got better with newer firmware versions but the fact is the problem never really got entirely solved.
Currently I have stock 2.3.4 JVP and after flashing and wiping the phone was really fast. My problem is that as time goes by, and you start installing apps, music, content, etc. the performance decreases noticeably and even benchmarks such as Quadrant start getting lower scores as time passes by.
I've never seen this behaviour in other systems like iOS or WP7, and even on other Androids I believe the problem does not exist or the user doesn't notice it as much as with the SGS.
Quad-core 1Ghz, 3D Samoled+! O.O
Sorry, OT.
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CM7> AOSP > HTC Sense > Samsung TW > LG
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I have no idea what you are moaning about. No issues with the phone. Compared to my Xperia X10a and HTC HD2, this one is very nice indeed.
Ctcng said:
Since the i9000 launch there was some serious lag problems with the Galaxy S, otherwise lag fixes wouldn't be popular as they were (and probably still are).
Things got better with newer firmware versions but the fact is the problem never really got entirely solved.
Currently I have stock 2.3.4 JVP and after flashing and wiping the phone was really fast. My problem is that as time goes by, and you start installing apps, music, content, etc. the performance decreases noticeably and even benchmarks such as Quadrant start getting lower scores as time passes by.
I've never seen this behaviour in other systems like iOS or WP7, and even on other Androids I believe the problem does not exist or the user doesn't notice it as much as with the SGS.
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exactly my thoughts.
I like samsung - i was also considering buying the second sgs, however decided to wait for a nice ice cream at the year end.
In any case, i am disappointed about the money i spent for the sgs.
I had higher expectations - i am talking about stock roms, now jvo, as when im
buying a product, i expect the support to be done by the manufacturer and not
myself, and at my own risk..
And something offtopic: the alarm bug hasnt even been officially fixed right?!!?
Try JVQ at least. It's the best gingerbread rom to date.
Heritz said:
Hey guys,
So, the wife decided to get an Android and we bought the HTC Wildfire S. This low-end (or mid-range?) device packs a 600MHz CPU, 512MB RAM and Android 2.3.3.
When we first turned it on, I noticed opening-closing apps was so fast that I was shocked, really shocked, compared to my SGS. This was the first time I was able to actually compare two Android phones. She has been using it for like a month now, and the phone is as fast as when we bought it.
On my SGS I am on stock XXJVO + Voodoo Lagfix, nothing else. Just standard apps installed and LauncherPro (paid). However, I feel that opening and closing apps is not as fast as the Wildfire S. It takes a few seconds to change interfaces, and what bothers me more is that it takes like 2 seconds to close an app and show the homescreen (pressing the back button several times, I don't use Home much).
On the Wildfire S you can browse through the interfaces extremely fast, everything opens and closes immediately. There is absolute no lag at all, really, no matter what app you're closing.
My question is, why is the SGS feels so laggy and slow compared to a low-end phone like the Wildfire S? Is it the ROM I'm using? Is it the launcher? I've tried rebooting it, battery pull and everything, but still, its slow.
I'd love to hear your input on this. Have you guys experienced some sort of laggyness when opening-closing apps as well? Or is it just my phone?
Thank you all!
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i must say I totally agree with OP ! my sgs is also laggy. I am on f1 sgs2 rom. with galaxian kernel, with ext 4 lagfix and oc to 1.2 Ghz. but still it takes way to long, to open apps of any kind... and it just lags randomly all the time. have reinstalled several times according to instructions so dont tell me to do factory reset
I think the best gingerbread I have tried was jvh. app launch was the nearest to instant I have seen.
but I think the most lagfree experience must be froyo jp6 or jpy with speedmod kernel.
and to be honest since jp6 the browser has been a joke... :-(
its said that jvq browser is better, but only on odexed roms...
sadly I think that the support for the sgs is nearly over... and I have lost faith that samsung will free my sgs of lag :-(
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Try JVQ at least. It's the best gingerbread rom to date.
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Still way slower than my old nexus one running gingerbread. It runs rings around cm7 even. Everything is instant and faultless.
Op is right.
If nexus one had samoled screen and better speakers I'd be like,
what's a galaxy s?
Having said that I prefer the gs1 to nexus s.
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Try JVQ at least. It's the best gingerbread rom to date.
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my bad, that is what i am using.
It was impressive at the beginning, however not anymore.
lag is back, the alarm bug is still on, and some recent random restarts started.
I know there are fixes etc - but its worth noting that the hardware will die unutilised at least when it comes to official roms from samsung.
The lag issue is a common theme with the SGS. Not sure how long you have owned your SGS but I believe the SGS still has better hardware but the lag develops over time.
So when I first got me SGS in June last year, it was great at the start. Then the lag came in and I tried OneClick Lagfix based on xda advice. That seemed to work for a bit but then slowed down again. In November, I flashed my first custom rom (Darky 8.5), the used the Speedmod Lag fix. Same thing, good at the start, then slows down. I kept trying a few others (Darky 9.2, 10.1, DebusRom, ExtraOrdinary, Chebon) and the longest I stayed on before noticing the lag was about 1 month.
One of the steps suggested before a flashing a rom is to undo lagfix and recommended to do a wipe as the freshest install. Doing this seems to refresh the speed as it was at the start (so constant flashing seems to make things quicker).
Something also to try if you don't want to try a new rom or firmware, is to undo and redo the lagfix. Almost like defragmenting but it seems to refresh the system (imho).
I have also heard some of the latest firmwares (JVQ) have better implementations of the filesystem and have heard some people not using lagifx at all. Given you have installed lagfix, you aren't that far from installing a new firmware/rom (just back up your files obviously). I haven't been on JVQ long enough to see if this truly fixes the issue though.
Just my thoughts.
Heritz said:
Hey guys,
So, the wife decided to get an Android and we bought the HTC Wildfire S. This low-end (or mid-range?) device packs a 600MHz CPU, 512MB RAM and Android 2.3.3.
When we first turned it on, I noticed opening-closing apps was so fast that I was shocked, really shocked, compared to my SGS. This was the first time I was able to actually compare two Android phones. She has been using it for like a month now, and the phone is as fast as when we bought it.
On my SGS I am on stock XXJVO + Voodoo Lagfix, nothing else. Just standard apps installed and LauncherPro (paid). However, I feel that opening and closing apps is not as fast as the Wildfire S. It takes a few seconds to change interfaces, and what bothers me more is that it takes like 2 seconds to close an app and show the homescreen (pressing the back button several times, I don't use Home much).
On the Wildfire S you can browse through the interfaces extremely fast, everything opens and closes immediately. There is absolute no lag at all, really, no matter what app you're closing.
My question is, why is the SGS feels so laggy and slow compared to a low-end phone like the Wildfire S? Is it the ROM I'm using? Is it the launcher? I've tried rebooting it, battery pull and everything, but still, its slow.
I'd love to hear your input on this. Have you guys experienced some sort of laggyness when opening-closing apps as well? Or is it just my phone?
Thank you all!
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This shocking,i had the wildfire,and have to say that i experienced totally different things than you.It was laggy,slow.Then i rooted the phone,and changed the sense crap to a different rom,then there was no lag.phone worked smoothly.as for my SGS,the stock thing is laggy.It gets much better only changing the kernel to Galaxian.
I gotta try that Galaxian kernel. Changing to other phone constantly inhabits my mind, to something more reliable.
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nesx87 said:
In any case, i am disappointed about the money i spent for the sgs.
I had higher expectations - i am talking about stock roms, now jvo, as when im
buying a product, i expect the support to be done by the manufacturer and not
myself, and at my own risk..
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Manufacturer? It's not even that simple. A friend has a stock one and it works nicely (for stock). Another friend has another stock one and lags horribly, force closes, freezes, has trouble with dropped calls. The difference? They are on different operators so the crap that they bundle together is so different that it makes or breaks the phone.
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I have found that LPP is really laggy with gingerbread update. Maybe, even before. I had been using only launcher pro for more than 4-5 months, and was surprised by the speed, when I switched to another launcher. Some operations, like adding shortcut to applications or even adding widgets would take a long time in launcher pro.
Have you tried other home launchers?
FYI, I have tried some low-end phones (HTC wildfire, Dell XCD 35 aka ZTE Blade) and some decent ones (Nexus S,HTC Desire(not much),SE Arc,SE X10,SGS 2)..
And,I find a proper SGS (custom ROM based on stock+custom kernel ) to be perform similar to a Nexus S or SE Arc.
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You were right. LP was lagging the phone as hell, mostly when going back to the homescreen and closing apps. I gave TouchWiz a run for a straight hour, playing games, opening and closing emails, browsing G+, Maps and several other apps, it never lagged when going back to the homescreen, which is what worries me most. I still need to try it on everyday use though.
Time to find another launcher. Any recommendations?
Let me start off by saying - I have never rooted or installed any custom roms or whatever on my phone. The reason is that I just wanted a phone and not play around with it anymore (playing around = more can break).
Since my SGS3 notified me about the JB update and I installed it via OTA i literally started hating my phone. Here are multiple reasons why:
WiFi does not work. I have the same N-router I had before JB and since then my phone couldn't log in to my WiFi network - always stuck on "authenticating". I then configured the phone to use a static IP and not DHCP and it can connect successfully to my network - but I have NO internet connection. I now my router is fine because it used to work great before and my Nexus 7 as well as ALL other devices work without a problem. I refuse to downgrade my routers speed to B- or G-speed.
Google Calendar won't sync. Under Sync -> Google, for more than a week it says "Sync is currently experiencing problems. It will be back shortly.". Mail and Contacts etc. sync just fine. Calendar on my Nexus 7 syncs fine too. ****ing annoying to not have your appointments visible.
Battery dies _much_ faster. For some reason the battery doesn't last anywhere as long as it used to with ICS. I'm not doing anything different, the battery just drains and drains. I have a suspicion about "gpsd" which sometimes pops up under "Settings -> Battery" even though I haven't used Google Maps or anything. I keep killing it but the phone still dies at least three times faster than before. So it must be more than just gpsd.
F*cking hot! Using it to text someone real quick - the phone gets really hot at the bottom. What the F is up with that? I'm not playing a game or watching a movie or whatnot. 1 minute of WhatsApp makes my phone go toast. On ICS i had to really push the phone to become hot.
Slow. Navigating menus etc. got of course more smooth than on ICS but I have a feeling that a lot of apps now work worse than before. For example the contacts app starts even slower than it did before (>2 seconds). No matter which browser I use, it lags far more often than before. Don't know what it is, but it's definitely there.
What the f*ck is this bullsh*t Samsung? I'm not a power user and have no "special" apps installed. Stock ROM, no root etc. and still a buttload of problems since JB. On ICS everything was great.
I guess I could reset my phone to factory. But seriously - that's not acceptable. Backing up my texts, messages, photos, app settings etc. is too time consuming and annoying. And what if after resetting the phone the WiFi still doesn't work - am I supposed to use my mobile data to download all those apps (Google Search is like 10 MB, other apps are no little fly either). It adds up (time + money).
That Google Nexus 4 is starting too look really good right about now. But I'd rather keep my Samsung. Although I'm probably NOT gonna buy any Samsung phone again any time soon.
You are just bad luck for been updated with faulty firmware.
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suarsg said:
What the f*ck is this bullsh*t Samsung? I'm not a power user and have no "special" apps installed. Stock ROM, no root etc. and still a buttload of problems since JB. On ICS everything was great.
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I don't know if I'd agree with all the issues you're having, but is have to agree with you on the fact that Sammy jellybean for the s3 is not really that good...I've tried all of them including stock odexed and deodexed, wanam, insertcoin, omega, etc etc... they're all great roms, but the base is still Sammy jellybean, and battery life sucks when compared to ics. Also, app performance is better on ics based Roms. The buttery smoothness also lasts for only some time after boot and gradually the UI status stuttering, as do the launchers, whether touchwiz or third party... probably the reason why I'm still on an ics Rom.
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enigmaamit said:
I don't know if I'd agree with all the issues you're having, but is have to agree with you on the fact that Sammy jellybean for the s3 is not really that good...I've tried all of them including stock odexed and deodexed, wanam, insertcoin, omega, etc etc... they're all great roms, but the base is still Sammy jellybean, and battery life sucks when compared to ics. Also, app performance is better on ics based Roms. The buttery smoothness also lasts for only some time after boot and gradually the UI status stuttering, as do the launchers, whether touchwiz or third party... probably the reason why I'm still on an ics Rom.
Tapatalked from my SIII
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Thanks for the valuable info mate. Is there no alternative for us to use jellybean?? Will AOKP/AOSP or Cyanogen Roms help?? I am on Jellybean base currently. ICS was a lot better
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Thanks for the valuable info mate. Is there no alternative for us to use jellybean?? Will AOKP/AOSP or Cyanogen Roms help?? I am on Jellybean base currently. ICS was a lot better
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AOSP based Roms are definitely good options to official Sammy jellybean, but the problems are with closed source drivers etc that are not available to AOSP Roms. So stuff like tethering, camera, etc will never be as good as the official firmware...
Best thing is for Sammy to develop a jellybean update with these issues fixed... till then I guess you should stick to AOSP/AOKP for a better jellybean experience.
Tapatalked from my SIII
That's why I have dual boot. Paranoid as primary for performance; smoothness (and only 160 MB to download !! plus google apps), and a Sammy ROM as secondary for tethering when I need it.
enigmaamit said:
AOSP based Roms are definitely good options to official Sammy jellybean, but the problems are with closed source drivers etc that are not available to AOSP Roms. So stuff like tethering, camera, etc will never be as good as the official firmware...
Best thing is for Sammy to develop a jellybean update with these issues fixed... till then I guess you should stick to AOSP/AOKP for a better jellybean experience.
Tapatalked from my SIII
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Let's wait for a wile... Sammy promised to public some sorces. Will see in just a week what it will be.
Bad side - most good programmers left developing cm10 for sgs3...
So not many who will be able pick up the cm10 flag and rise it again even if Sammy will public sources..
I had the same problem until yesterday, when i decided to factory reset my phone. Used TitaniumBackup and took about 2 hours to restore everything :|
Now it's much much better. I had to restart my phone about 2~3 times a day before. I haven't since resetting.
suarsg said:
Let me start off by saying - I have never rooted or installed any custom roms or whatever on my phone. The reason is that I just wanted a phone and not play around with it anymore (playing around = more can break).
Since my SGS3 notified me about the JB update and I installed it via OTA i literally started hating my phone. Here are multiple reasons why:
WiFi does not work. I have the same N-router I had before JB and since then my phone couldn't log in to my WiFi network - always stuck on "authenticating". I then configured the phone to use a static IP and not DHCP and it can connect successfully to my network - but I have NO internet connection. I now my router is fine because it used to work great before and my Nexus 7 as well as ALL other devices work without a problem. I refuse to downgrade my routers speed to B- or G-speed.
Google Calendar won't sync. Under Sync -> Google, for more than a week it says "Sync is currently experiencing problems. It will be back shortly.". Mail and Contacts etc. sync just fine. Calendar on my Nexus 7 syncs fine too. ****ing annoying to not have your appointments visible.
Battery dies _much_ faster. For some reason the battery doesn't last anywhere as long as it used to with ICS. I'm not doing anything different, the battery just drains and drains. I have a suspicion about "gpsd" which sometimes pops up under "Settings -> Battery" even though I haven't used Google Maps or anything. I keep killing it but the phone still dies at least three times faster than before. So it must be more than just gpsd.
F*cking hot! Using it to text someone real quick - the phone gets really hot at the bottom. What the F is up with that? I'm not playing a game or watching a movie or whatnot. 1 minute of WhatsApp makes my phone go toast. On ICS i had to really push the phone to become hot.
Slow. Navigating menus etc. got of course more smooth than on ICS but I have a feeling that a lot of apps now work worse than before. For example the contacts app starts even slower than it did before (>2 seconds). No matter which browser I use, it lags far more often than before. Don't know what it is, but it's definitely there.
What the f*ck is this bullsh*t Samsung? I'm not a power user and have no "special" apps installed. Stock ROM, no root etc. and still a buttload of problems since JB. On ICS everything was great.
I guess I could reset my phone to factory. But seriously - that's not acceptable. Backing up my texts, messages, photos, app settings etc. is too time consuming and annoying. And what if after resetting the phone the WiFi still doesn't work - am I supposed to use my mobile data to download all those apps (Google Search is like 10 MB, other apps are no little fly either). It adds up (time + money).
That Google Nexus 4 is starting too look really good right about now. But I'd rather keep my Samsung. Although I'm probably NOT gonna buy any Samsung phone again any time soon.
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boot recovery mode and wipe data
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On the contrary I started loving my phone after jb update and I even dumped aokp for samsung rom
Smooth ui
Faster than ics
Improved camera features
Much more to say
There are one or two glitches here and there but none of them are show stoppers, absolutely happy with jb
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bala_gamer said:
On the contrary I started loving my phone after jb update and I even dumped aokp for samsung rom
Smooth ui
Faster than ics
Improved camera features
Much more to say
There are one or two glitches here and there but none of them are show stoppers, absolutely happy with jb
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I returned to stock rom because it has a better battery life than wanam his. But i love it. I dont have any problems you mentioned. I wish the best for you and I hope you full whipe and flash again. This would propably fix all your problems.
Also to people who are restoring apps with TB, i stopped this method because I am convinced it does more harm to the rom than good
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bala_gamer said:
On the contrary I started loving my phone after jb update and I even dumped aokp for samsung rom
Smooth ui
Faster than ics
Improved camera features
Much more to say
There are one or two glitches here and there but none of them are show stoppers, absolutely happy with jb
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To each his own I guess... but I believe the battery is much worse on jellybean as compared to ics on Sammy Roms...and apps behave much better on ics too.
As far as project butter is concerned, UI smoothness is nowhere near what jellybean promised at release... still stutters badly at times... ics feels more at home on the s3, at least with the current lot of jellybean releases by Sammy
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bala_gamer said:
On the contrary I started loving my phone after jb update and I even dumped aokp for samsung rom
Smooth ui
Faster than ics
Improved camera features
Much more to say
There are one or two glitches here and there but none of them are show stoppers, absolutely happy with jb
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Same here. Even better battery because of the wifi schedule feature.
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I returned to stock rom because it has a better battery life than wanam his. But i love it. I dont have any problems you mentioned. I wish the best for you and I hope you full whipe and flash again. This would propably fix all your problems.
Also to people who are restoring apps with TB, i stopped this method because I am convinced it does more harm to the rom than good
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What problems did I mentioned? Lol
And btw how does tb restore affects your rom?
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Me too... Went from great phone to hate phone. JB just brought me more STOP errors. Even gallery now stops 1-2 times a week.
I hate the grey topbar. I have a bug that when i exit an app, i can see the shadows in the icons slowly returning back instead of beeing instant in ICS.
The phone is also slower. Project butter is just not there. It's like samsung took that out...
dissapointed and want to sell the phone
Happened to me when I had my Galaxy Note. Did an ICS OTA update and everything went wrong.
Now, I'm using S3, I am now using custom ROM and happy about it, faster and lighter with no problem at all.
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What problems did I mentioned? Lol
And btw how does tb restore affects your rom?
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I wasnt referreling to you. I was just as positive as you are
Restoring from TB is just a personal weirdness, I have the idea that pushing all that data into /system sometimes corrupts. I prefer a clean install from Play.
Also i have seen dozensbof people restoring ICS apps and data and complaining the Rom is bad. Thats why I prefer people not too.
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Either root and install a custom rom or wipe data and setup from scratch.
Every now and then software can and will be broken by an update, it doesnt matter if its samsung/android, windows, or even ios - updating can go wrong. Go ahead and get a nexus, even though the chance is slim its possible that the same thing happens when the next update is pushed out.
Im not defending samsung at all, obviously it sucks having to wipe data to fix the problem, but in the end it will solve it - as well as rooting and installing a custom rom will.
Whats with the F*kn language btw?
1 . try wanamlite, android revolution hd and checkrim
2- s-memo and stock browser eat battery disable them.
those two should fix most of ur problems if they dont it's a app u installed.
Stock browser? This is the first time I heard that it affects battery life.
Doesn't it give better battery than chrome?
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I know, it's a 2 year old phone with just 1GB RAM and TouchWiz on top of it.
I've spent the last 2 days trying a LOT of roms to try to make the phone feel faster, because I don't want to buy a new one. I really like this one. The camera is AMAZING, decent battery life, love blocking mode, etc. As a phone it works great: good speaker, strong vibration, great signal, etc.
But there's one single thing that makes this phone feel "old": the speed. Just the speed. If it were faster and more fluid then there would be absolutely no reason to upgrade to the new phones (except, well, maybe more RAM and battery).
Yesterday I tried like 15 AOSP roms: CM11, temasek, ultimaAOSP, NeatROMAOSP, Vanir, AOKP, SlimKat, etc.
Nothing. It's slightly faster, but the problem is the animations. They just look wrong all the time. There's frame drops everywhere. And bugs and crashes, so back to Samsung stock today. Tried another 10 samsung based roms. Nothing new. Speed is still the same and frame drops are still there...
I guess I'll have to end up buying a new phone, but definitely not a flagship. I'm looking at midrange phones that come with AOSP. Found one with 2GB RAM, 13Mpx camera, 2500 battery, 5 inch 720P IPS screen, microSD and dual SIM for 199$. Great price, and comes with 4.4 stock Android.
Tried the phone at the store the other day and it just made my SGS3 look like the midranger, and that with a MediaTek A7 1.3 quad core!
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Exactly. Well,animations are smooth on AOSP with right kernel,but still not as it should be. This phone sucks when it comes to UI performance.
Now I even got broken camera and media playback,too,after stressing it with every new test on my phone.
Well,probably this phone worked the best with 4.1.2. I think it's all about crappy processor,called exynos.
EDIT: Btw,you can try archidroid 1x with his boeffla presets,though. After all,it's not that bad.
I think you are just setting unrealistic expectations if none of those ROMS, without TouchWiz, were any good for you.
There is nothing crappy about the processor mate. your case is an isolated issue. If the archi ROM is not smooth for you then there is something wrong with your phone.
it's always wise to stick to ROMs and kernels which are built using proper sources.
Do not restore a massive amount of data soon after a flash. Let the ROM settle a bit. Trim your device memory once in a while.
Also a megawipe is recommended after so many flashes.
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I put Cyanogenmod CM11 on mine after updating to stock 4.3. It felt like a completely different phone and brought back the speed. It absolutely flies and battery time is double what it was on stock 4.3.
I tested alot of Roms but regading speed and batterylife i use Temasek with Yank kernel. No OC and de S3 flys.
Oh god, it's like reading a thread I could have written myself. I feel you, mate. Got the same damn frustations sometimes.
It seems that whichever ROM "camp" you choose, you're gonna have drawbacks. Tried so many different variants of TW-roms and i just feel they are all too slow and with lags.
Many of the AOSP-roms are quite fast (using ArchiDroid atm which is incredibly fast!) but then you get the problem of crappy camera, no Allshare, tethering issues, many games that have sound-issues and all those random bugs we all know about but try to live with
Perhaps the new Kitkat port can solve these issues but it seems there is a lot of work to be done still. Still I'm glad there's a community like XDA with such awesome people (Like Kryten who posted earlier ) who put the time into developing these things.. Or we would be stuck with even slower ROM's from Samsung.
Is there any way to get rid of it, or at least reduce it?
Install smart droid, further debloat, run greenify and boeffla, custom launcher and its quick, no lag
Even the s5 can't run without lag using Touchwiz.
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Is there any way to get rid of it, or at least reduce it?
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Yes there is, activate Developer Options by tapping on the Build Number in About Phone. In there are 3 settings for animations. The 1st thing I do on every rom is decrease them to 25%. On CM11 and temaseks builds you have a slider which allows you to fine tune the settings instead of the picker which you find on other roms.
My personal experience is that OmniRom is just snappier than any of the others, even when I have a whole bunch of apps open, incoming calls get displayed almost instantly, the dialer and contacts open almost instantly. In my case of course. Everyone has their favourite rom/kernel combination. I have also had great success using Yank555's kernel with the default settings (which include a slight overclock with no noticeable battery drain.
So my temporarily solution is to completely disable the animations in developer settings.
It's a good solution, for now.
My combo right now is stock Samsung 4.3 debloated (many useless apps freezed. Other apps freezed also using Titanium Backup) with Boeffla kernel.
It gets annoying when animations aren't smooth and consistent, but I guess it's expected when Touchwiz is on top and just 1GB RAM.
Taking about RAM, this phone has almost no multitasking also! It's impossible to keep one Chrome or Internet tab open in the background while you do something else. When you go back to the Internet app it has to reload again.
And no custom rom can fix this either. I spent one week with AOSP Vanir rom and didn't had multitasking there either.
What I'm trying to say is that this phone has turned old faster than it should have, precisely because of a bad 4.3 update by Samsung and also just 1GB RAM.
And talking about speed and lag again, trust me, I've tied all the good roms available. It won't matter if you install a custom kernel. If you overclock the phone then battery will last even less than before, and it doesn't make a huge difference in speed animation and fluidity.
I'm sure AOSP roms like CM11 and others do work faster and more fluid in newest phones like G2, SGS4, HTC One, etc. It's because they have a better processor and 2GB RAM.
In the end I think it's the hardware that's to blame for the lag (and bad 4.3 update by Samsung too).
The phone is great otherwise. I love almost everything about it, like I previously said. Most times I can't believe how good the camera is, the screen is enough for me (no need for 1080P), size and weight is perfect, etc.
I would have preferred to own the US SGS3 model with it's 2GB RAM than the EU model. In the long run I think it's better.
But anyway, the lag is not huge, just annoying. And I only notice it when opening and closing apps.
Try entering development settings and change the animator duration scale to 0.5 the transition animation scale to 0.5 and the window animation scale to 0.5
It will make anything faster
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AlmoGS said:
Try entering development settings and change the animator duration scale to 0.5 the transition animation scale to 0.5 and the window animation scale to 0.5
It will make anything faster
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You don't understand it.
It doesn't matter the scale animation (just tried with 0.25, 0.5, 0.75 again), there's still frame drops everywhere.
It doesn't make anything "faster". It's even more annoying watching the frame drops at 0.25.
It's not a solution. There is NO solution to the animation frame drops, not even on custom roms...
Only "solution" is to turn animation scale completely to 0.
I have sgs3 intl and I had a lot of lags and frame drops and I switched to CM 11 nightly and it's became faster and no frame drop and it's like new.
What Android version do you use?
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if you want to have the same camera quality, i suggest you archidroid 1.7.16.
faster rom i ever tried
What lag? My S3 is smmmmoooooooth on CM11
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You don't understand it.
It doesn't matter the scale animation (just tried with 0.25, 0.5, 0.75 again), there's still frame drops everywhere.
It doesn't make anything "faster". It's even more annoying watching the frame drops at 0.25.
It's not a solution. There is NO solution to the animation frame drops, not even on custom roms...
Only "solution" is to turn animation scale completely to 0.
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Alright,my last bet will be to go on Archidroid stock based ROM,use it's own boeffla preset setting and turn animations to 1.5x. Animations will be smooth all around,only custom launcher is needed,because when opening or closing apps on touchwiz,it's still stuttery. I'm still using touchwiz launcher,though (lovely animations all around!).
I noticed 1.0x is the worst speed for animations on stock ROMs. I mean,with 1.0x,I notice some fps drops much more when opening a new windows with animations. Like it's too fast for CPU to tune right time for speed and animation and that makes it laggy. So it's all about wrong timing,as 0.5x also feels much more smoother,it's noticeable.
But the 1.5x setting compensates that. No more stuttery animations at all and it feels pretty beautiful. This was my last solution for stock touchwiz ROM,and I'm pretty happy. Try it yourself.
EDIT: Btw,if you also want to keep touchwiz,try xposed app settings,find there touchwiz launcher and tick the checkbox for "resident" option. That way it will keep the launcher in memory hardly,so when you will go back to launcher , shadows under the icons won't redraw and thus stuttery animations will be reduced and will happen much more rare.
On multitasking, try maximising your swap. Never have problems going from Chrome, email, FB etc. Also try removing apps 'receiver' settings, so they don't open on unlock, wifi connect etc..
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There have been a select FEW roms that solved most of the issues you talking about, but they mostly old and the developers have moved on. The truth is, AOSP kitkat isnt optimized for our phones and you most likely wont find a stock based ROM that doesn't lag. I think the main culprit is Jellybean + Samsung together. I don't ever recall ICS having frame drops or lagging really. Samsung did a crappy job optimizing jellybean for our phone. Jellybean is hardware intensive, more than ICS and Kitkat. Seems like it was a temp solution while Google worked on KitKat and now our phone is unfortunately stuck there.
Do yourself a favor and don't get a Samsung if you want proper performance.