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Desire HD never lagged again, best kernel for stock sense

So i've decided to post this, simply because ive been enjoying my DHD so much running super smooth, i've done so much experimentation to be sure of my results
yest i was trying my friend DHD and i've encountered bad lag again, i've checked his USB debugging and it was accidentally turned off for god knows why, i turned it on and the situation got better but not as good as mine
i like sense and a stock experience, i have my DHD rooted with the stock 1.32.405.6, i tried almost every Buzz and kamma kernel and i reached one conclusion
ever since both Buzz (v1.0.7) and kamma (v1.0) merged their kernels with the CM kernel its been trouble for stock sense for too many reasons to list in here
Buzz kernel v1.0.6 is the best for sense its based on HTC own kernel just much improved with careful UV, improved CPU governors and all the CPU speed steps you might need, i've been running it using interactive governor at just 1113mhz max and 245min no profiles and its really a dream to use (of course with USB debugging always on)
never lags when you unlock the screen, never lags when you scroll the messages widget or a folder on the home screen, barely any lag when u switch wifi on, never locked up or rebooted, i've been on it for over a month
seriously smooth performance and stability out of this kernel, equally i had my phone charged before going to the pub last Friday, with moderate use i only had to recharge Sunday night thats 48 hours!
i know many of you will flame me for this post and Apache14 will hate me but i wanted to share this and help everyone who has problems with lag
Thank you Apache14 for making my DHD a better device
[edit] Its best to flash it using kernel update utility to prevent boot loops
[edit 2] sadly all Buzz Kernels up to 1.1.4 including 1.0.6 will not work with update 1.72.405.2, it will break the microphone and maybe other things so we need to wait for updated kernels (updated below)
[UDPATE] for Those running firmware 1.72 buzz kernel v1.2.2 runs even better then v1.06, as always flash it using kernel update utility
However for rooted stock 1.72, after flashing the kernel and modules, you will need to replace two lib files otherwise the video playback will break, Apache still didn't include them in his zip file
i've attached them for those who need them (use root explorer to replace the two files) also attached the stock 1.72 kernel with the original lib files just in case you run into trouble
kernel update utility
Buzz Kernel 1.2.2

I saw you suggesting this several times but now i had to try to see, i was using kamma 1.2 but had some lags, indeed DHD is smoother with 1.06

robE9 said:
I saw you suggesting this several times but now i had to try to see, i was using kamma 1.2 but had some lags, indeed DHD is smoother with 1.06
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yea sorry i have the tendency to insist when i know i'm right
anyway keep it there for a while and report back, when things load up it runs better
Apache releases for both CM and Sense roms, but his work is no longer optimized for sense roms
kamma uses BFS now which is sometimes faster but causes inconsistency in sense UI frame rates

Actually i tried to flash 1.12 but had a bootlopp and was afraid to try again but now seems ok , you tried 1.12 ?

I doubt Apache will hate you just for saying his 1.0.6 is better for stock sense...
Anyway Apache is a nice guy...no worries

robE9 said:
Actually i tried to flash 1.12 but had a bootlopp and was afraid to try again but now seems ok , you tried 1.12 ?
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Always use the kernel update utility and you will never get bootloops with any of his kernels

you will get bootloops with buzz kernels unless you use the kernel flash tool
yes i tried 1.1.2 same results as always, never as good as 1.0.6 always contains some bugs and instability, 1.1.2 is aggressively undervolted so its unstable plus contains a serious bug with the interactive governor it was solved with v1.1.3 and v1.1.4
like i said all kernels over v1.0.6 are based on a Cyanogen kernel, which is really so unstable with sense Rom no matter which version

Confirm...
I can confirm that 1.0.6 is the best solution, i have been running it now for 4 days and it is super smooth... I have installed all of these kernels but this one is the best.

yes the problem now we have to update once android revolution is out with base OTA 1.72
it can only work with the coming buzz v1.1.5
v1.0.6 is just so good its how HTC should have released the DHD

hi guyz,
I didnt use kernel update, so...I flashed via clockwork recovery and now it started boot-loop.
I saw I need to boot my device in order to use kernel update tool. so...how to boot it if it's in bootloop??
tnx in advance
EDIT: solved with a clockwork restore

Ok Im running 1.0.6 at te moment , so far so good let's see what the battery usage is like. Definitely speedy!!!!

I agree that 1.0.6 is great! Been running the 1.51 version since it came out few weeks ago. I use min 245 max 1.2 with smartass, no profiles. No lags and great battery life (MAX 2 days). I had some reboots at max freq. so I don't use it anymore. Guess I could just use the uvoc version . Have not tried the newer versions but the reactions seem not so great. If it's because of the CM kernel being used, I hope apache will continue his great work with the stock kernel!
Sent from my Desire HD

What kernel specifically are you all using? As I see 3 separate kernels available being the 3 underneath this and only 2 of them have a version 1.0.6 which are the top two, just wondered which one you're all using
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835616
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835608
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=836259

Burning_aces said:
What kernel specifically are you all using? As I see 3 separate kernels available being the 3 underneath this and only 2 of them have a version 1.0.6 which are the top two, just wondered which one you're all using
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835616
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835608
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=836259
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This one mate
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15005030/Buzz_1.0.6_OC+.zip

lefty83 said:
This one mate
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15005030/Buzz_1.0.6_OC+.zip
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ah the 1.51ghz one
thanks

i just flashed this 1.06 kernel and it brought back waking the phone via the vol keys! No wonder it didn't work on the new roms that had the newer apache kernels..
so now i can wake the phone with the vol keys and i'm a happy camper!
*edit* realised a couple of things wrong.. the waking up with vol was only immediately after i turned off power to the phone, so that was a false alarm. and secondly i've got no wifi... so i'm gona try to reflash again.
*edit 2* ok wifi's working fine for me.. still no wake with vol keys though.. oh well..

lukesky said:
i just flashed this 1.06 kernel and it brought back waking the phone via the vol keys! No wonder it didn't work on the new roms that had the newer apache kernels..
so now i can wake the phone with the vol keys and i'm a happy camper!
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Cant get it to wake via the vol keys. Any further settings required for that?

I might try this and see how it goes, although I have no problems or lag with the latest one, but battery life is aweful because I spend far too much time playing flick kick football and fieldgoal, backbreaker and angry birds whilst listening to music in the background and watching videos in youtube/skyfire, that lasts me around a day

MrYuiM said:
I might try this and see how it goes, although I have no problems or lag with the latest one, but battery life is aweful because I spend far too much time playing flick kick football and fieldgoal, backbreaker and angry birds whilst listening to music in the background and watching videos in youtube/skyfire, that lasts me around a day
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thats great battery performance out of any device believe me

HTCTourist said:
Cant get it to wake via the vol keys. Any further settings required for that?
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on stock kernel, u can use an app like widgetlocker to do it

[Q] Bad question: which ROM to flash?

I feel embarrassed to have to ask this, and I know a lot of people hate this type of post. I want a suggestion for what custom ROM to flash.
I started flashing about 5 months ago with Darky's ROM. And now I like my phone. ( I won't say love, because I love my parents, my children, StarTrek, BSG, hot girls, and icecream and that's it). BUT, the more I flash, the more I get annoyed with the gliches. Darky's 10.1 didn't have working GTalk (w/ Camera), and sometimes has some bugs. I lately flashed Ruyyo EDB1.1 (JVP ROM), but sometimes the phone restarts or crashes, and every 3 days or so, SOMETHING runs down the battery (meaning, the phone over-heats, acts slow, and loses all battery in 5 hours). That might be because of an app, but I think its on the rom. The main apps I use are HandcentSMS, ADW-Ex, and Multi-picture live wall paper. And Gmail (which is FCing every time I restart the phone)
Now there are so many ROMs out, I don't know which one to get. All say they are stable and fast...and I'm sure for many people they are. But I am searching for suggestins. I cannot try out many because I live in China, and because of the damn stupid retarded Great Firewall of China, all downloads of ROMs from Multi-upload are slow (and I need special software to access that site).
So...I'm looking for a ROM which is really stable, which I do not need to do a wipe-flash with and can install with CWM. I would prefer that it use the same lag-fix solution as the Darky ROM so that I can go back to it when they update ...but as I don't every actually activate the lag-fix, probably does not matter.
I'm looking for a ROM which must have voodoo sound (the ability to use my phone with my own AKG earphones without having to unplug said earphones when I answer a call is what convinced me to keep the SGS instead of getting an iPhone4... so this is critical)
I need my ROM to support live wallpapers, so that I can use my LCARS wallpaper with multi-pic.
I prefer my ROM to support the Samsung Music player with the integrated lock-screen widget.
I really prefer ROM which has the front-camera fixed and google-talk operating.
Any suggestions are appreciated.

ogami_ito said:
I feel embarrassed to have to ask this, and I know a lot of people hate this type of post. I want a suggestion for what custom ROM to flash.
I started flashing about 5 months ago with Darky's ROM. And now I like my phone. ( I won't say love, because I love my parents, my children, StarTrek, BSG, hot girls, and icecream and that's it). BUT, the more I flash, the more I get annoyed with the gliches. Darky's 10.1 didn't have working GTalk (w/ Camera), and sometimes has some bugs. I lately flashed Ruyyo EDB1.1 (JVP ROM), but sometimes the phone restarts or crashes, and every 3 days or so, SOMETHING runs down the battery (meaning, the phone over-heats, acts slow, and loses all battery in 5 hours). That might be because of an app, but I think its on the rom. The main apps I use are HandcentSMS, ADW-Ex, and Multi-picture live wall paper. And Gmail (which is FCing every time I restart the phone)
Now there are so many ROMs out, I don't know which one to get. All say they are stable and fast...and I'm sure for many people they are. But I am searching for suggestins. I cannot try out many because I live in China, and because of the damn stupid retarded Great Firewall of China, all downloads of ROMs from Multi-upload are slow (and I need special software to access that site).
So...I'm looking for a ROM which is really stable, which I do not need to do a wipe-flash with and can install with CWM. I would prefer that it use the same lag-fix solution as the Darky ROM so that I can go back to it when they update ...but as I don't every actually activate the lag-fix, probably does not matter.
I'm looking for a ROM which must have voodoo sound (the ability to use my phone with my own AKG earphones without having to unplug said earphones when I answer a call is what convinced me to keep the SGS instead of getting an iPhone4... so this is critical)
I need my ROM to support live wallpapers, so that I can use my LCARS wallpaper with multi-pic.
I prefer my ROM to support the Samsung Music player with the integrated lock-screen widget.
I really prefer ROM which has the front-camera fixed and google-talk operating.
Any suggestions are appreciated.
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Sounds very much like what I am looking for also. I am on Darky at the moment as well. I just want a good, fresh and 100% stable ROM.
- I need root
- Lagfix would be nice
- Needs to be able to work well with Launcher Pro Plus
- Good battery life
- BLN essential

We all need roms that are stable, fast, and with a good battery life... I think I've tried all main SGS roms, but at the end I think I'll stick with MIUI.
I liked Darky's rom, but I've got too many force-closes... maybe it was my fault because I didn't flash it correctly.
But for a month or so I've used MIUI... it's the fastest rom... You've got tons of lockscreens.. including samsung's (I think). Battery life it's not the best, but the devs are really working on making this rom perfect. For example.. for Galnet... this week 2 updates came out, and we're waiting for a big one friday.
My advice: give MIUI a try and you won't be disapointed

flaviucu said:
We all need roms that are stable, fast, and with a good battery life... I think I've tried all main SGS roms, but at the end I think I'll stick with MIUI.
I liked Darky's rom, but I've got too many force-closes... maybe it was my fault because I didn't flash it correctly.
But for a month or so I've used MIUI... it's the fastest rom... You've got tons of lockscreens.. including samsung's (I think). Battery life it's not the best, but the devs are really working on making this rom perfect. For example.. for Galnet... this week 2 updates came out, and we're waiting for a big one friday.
My advice: give MIUI a try and you won't be disapointed
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There are three reasons why I did not try MIUI. BUT, my reasons may be flawed.
1. In my understanding, MIUI is based on Cryogen (or something like that), which requires that I flash (wipe-flash?) a Froyo ROM first. Which means that I have to download two huge files through the Great FireWall of China. I know that's a lame reason...but that's a fair amount of work for me. Not to mention reloading all my apps.
2. In my understanding, CM (and hence MIUI) does not have the Voodoo sound and does not have the Samsung Music app. The music app is not so big a deal because (in my understanding), CM and MIUI have their own in-notification-bar music controls (which is why I like the Samsung music app). However, I need Voodoo sound in order to allow use of my own headphone while talking on the telephone.
3. In my understanding, MIUI is supposed to look like iOS, which I do not like.
Please let me know if my understandings are wrong.

I also didn't try it because I don't want to flash an updated version twice a week. I want a good working ROM from the start with no need to update until the next Android version comes out.

I am oso on darky's rom previously but having same issue. Then tried Tweaky's rom and Juwe's rom too. Juwe's rom is fast but its bit dull colored and lack of sgs2 apps like Tweaky's rom.Now I am using my own rom base on JVP with Talon kernel with OC, actually it's a mix and match of Tweaky n Juwe's rom. Everything is working so far with some sgs2 apps, tw4, gtalk with video call.Flash n wipe is a must for a start. If u r interested I can post a link for u.
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CM7 (CyanogenMod7) has Voodoo Sound for sure, even Voodoo Colour. BLN should also be possible with a custom kernel.
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best looking rom, fast and reliable its galnet mui. Battery life it;s not great yet but galnet its working hard to fix.
i think that after flashing couple of roms you will decide.

My advice: Juwe's Smart Edition v5.0 XXJVP .... he have all what you need .... and much more

Bisko69 said:
My advice: Juwe's Smart Edition v5.0 XXJVP .... he have all what you need .... and much more
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I'm gonna go with that. What's the best way to flash from Darky 10.1? Disable lag, wipe, flash official and then juwe?

Tim182 said:
I'm gonna go with that. What's the best way to flash from Darky 10.1? Disable lag, wipe, flash official and then juwe?
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Exactly. Just diable lagfix, full factory reset and finally flash Juwe's ROM with CWM.
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I tried most of these roms. I tried to play dungeon defenders with some roms. Holy.. that was very laggy and and unplayable. Now I'm on MIUI 2.2 rom. I tried dungeon defenders again. Wow.. Smooth and smooth... all FPS are X2 on quadrant. My device clock is 1600 mhz max as default as miui. Sometimes it stucks and restarts. But galnet works really hard. And battery is not the best ok. But thats worth it. You can download different themes with theme manager. Also there is an air update app for muiu. Which updates your device latest miui. I l
will stick with that..
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i m using galnet miui also
but the updates is too fast for me to chase
i came from mcgv5.3 to miui 2.2 without going thru mcgv 7.6
personally wat i think miui lacks off is the slide to call or sms from contacts and phone calls there

Lunchbox115 said:
Exactly. Just diable lagfix, full factory reset and finally flash Juwe's ROM with CWM.
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Why factory reset? Why not just do no-wipe flash with CWM?
Part of my problem is that there are a lot of ROMs, and if I'm wiping everytime I do a new ROM, its takes quite a while to restore to full functionality...albiet the end result may be more stable.
burakgon said:
I tried most of these roms. I tried to play dungeon defenders with some roms. Holy.. that was very laggy and and unplayable. Now I'm on MIUI 2.2 rom. I tried dungeon defenders again. Wow.. Smooth and smooth... all FPS are X2 on quadrant. My device clock is 1600 mhz max as default as miui. Sometimes it stucks and restarts. But galnet works really hard. And battery is not the best ok. But thats worth it. You can download different themes with theme manager. Also there is an air update app for muiu. Which updates your device latest miui. I l
will stick with that..
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So you are saying that you had better battery life with others, and MIUI sometimes gets stuck, but you like MIUI because its faster for games and themes? That's not really what I need (although I do like the notification options I saw on it has). I am more not into this because I'm not into having to Flash back to Froyo in order to install.

Lunchbox115 said:
CM7 (CyanogenMod7) has Voodoo Sound for sure, even Voodoo Colour. BLN should also be possible with a custom kernel.
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Hearing this, I'm tempted to bite the bullet and go through the CM7 install proceedure. I then will have to upload the google apps and the new google talk. But the end result may be pretty cool (assuming does not drain battery more than other ROMs). Thanks for the info.

MIUI rom doesnt stuck and restarts as your think. Battery life is not horrible. You can control your headset in miui with different module like voodoo sound. I think thats the best rom to stick now. You can get air updates and you dont need to wipe your data for updates. Just give it a try. I guess you will like it.
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burakgon said:
MIUI rom doesnt stuck and restarts as your think. Battery life is not horrible. You can control your headset in miui with different module like voodoo sound. I think thats the best rom to stick now. You can get air updates and you dont need to wipe your data for updates. Just give it a try. I guess you will like it.
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Thank you. I don't think it gets stuck. Its just that you said in previous post "Sometimes it stucks and restarts." I may try this out. I think I'm going to wait and see what this JVQ-based ROM is like before I do any ROM which requires a wipe.
Slightly off-topic...About my phone...I'm not sure, but I think sometimes the heavy battery drain and restarts are caused by Handcent SMS. I downloaded an app called "OSMonitor" It showed that sometimes Android System is continuously using 40% of CPU, and at those times, Handcent is using 50% of CPU. I guess I should delete Handcent and see if my phone gets better stability and performance. Seems maybe the stability problems were might be blamed in the wrong place. BUT...I really like Handcent...

I'm in a similar situation and decided the only way to get what I want is to put it together myself. This also means you probably wont have the latest and greatest because they might be cool but not always the most stable.
What you can do is, get a deodexed stock rom, install a stable kernel with the mods you need (voodoo, bln, rooted and busybox etc) than use Titanium backup to remove all the things you don't want. presto, you'll have what you wanted...

I think the best option is CM7.
Greetings.

I have CM7 and must re-charge every 8h... Moderate use. Are other ROMs better battery-wise?

Still a buggy phone!!

The Nexus S is quite possibly the best but most frustrating phone I've ever had. I love the hardware and the android OS. I still get random reboots, sometimes sms notifications never show up, and sometimes when I get a phone call the phone becomes unresponsive.
I've been using the latest NSCollab rom for several versions and have never over/under clocked. I clear the dalvik cache after every update and clear data/restore with titanium backup whenever necessary.
I'll feel like I've been doing everything correctly, yet I'm still left with a phone that gives me a lot of grief. What's the problem here? How can I fix this? This is extremely frustrating with no obvious solution.

I had a lot of problems with the nexus s... Now i have a galaxy sii, but i still have the nexus. Using the nscollab, i had a looooot of problems, now the phone are with the stock 2.3.4, in my tests, everything is fine. I will sell it now.
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I don't know what kernel that rom uses but that and settings on voltages make the whole difference in stability. Something like stock rom with stock kernel or cm7 with stock or netatchys kernel are always good choices and will give you stability.
Just IMHO
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mariosergio2112, how much do you expect to get from selling it?
I believe NSCollab is Cm7 with netarchy and the stock gingerbread launcher -- nothing crazy here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959282
NSCollab 1.0.35
Android : GB 2.3.4
System : CyanogenMod 7.1 [RC1] [CM Team]
Kernel : Netarchy CFS 1.3.4 [Netarchy]

Truth of the matter is that I've yet to come across a ROM that's rock solid. I've tried them all and always had either lots of random reboots, bootloops, or sluggishness.
I went back to stock last Thursday and it's been butter smooth since. No problems or anything of the sort.
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That's both good and bad news. Good news: there's a fix. Bad news: I really like some of CM7's features, but I guess it must go.
I'll give the stock rom a shot I guess.

glasslung said:
That's both good and bad news. Good news: there's a fix. Bad news: I really like some of CM7's features, but I guess it must go.
I'll give the stock rom a shot I guess.
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The Oxygen ROM is very stable aswell.

i tried several roms, but after all i came back to stock, it is stable and fast.. I do miss many features from cm7, but i guess i can live without it.
currently i'm trying to find a kernel with a battery life as good as stock one... i really miss bln ...

All I'm saying look into your voltage settings. Each phone will work different and you have to play with adjusting them. It also takes some time and patience.
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No matter what rom I use I end up going back to stock. I don't even think the net kernel is good enough.

glasslung said:
mariosergio2112, how much do you expect to get from selling it?
I believe NSCollab is Cm7 with netarchy and the stock gingerbread launcher -- nothing crazy here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959282
NSCollab 1.0.35
Android : GB 2.3.4
System : CyanogenMod 7.1 [RC1] [CM Team]
Kernel : Netarchy CFS 1.3.4 [Netarchy]
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I will sell it in brazil, where i live, i think 1000 reais, i dont know yet.
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Vandam500 said:
Truth of the matter is that I've yet to come across a ROM that's rock solid. I've tried them all and always had either lots of random reboots, bootloops, or sluggishness.
I went back to stock last Thursday and it's been butter smooth since. No problems or anything of the sort.
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+1
no ROM I've tried has ever compared to stock, especially 2.3.4, when it comes to stability.
I tried Many ROMs but all before 2.3.4 (end of April?) and none was able to run for more than a few days without some kind of reboot/bootloop etc.
2.3.4 has been running flawlessly ever since.
Current uptime is like 1100+ hrs and that too cause i had to remove battery to change SIM card.

Hi,
I have installed NSCollab 1.0.35 on a week and have not problems on my Nexus S.

To resume, i had some endless bootloop and a lot of reboot on long calls.
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My 2 cents:
I'm on NSCollab 1.0.34, Netharky 1.3.4, KB3, OV to 1.2 Ghz, UV with protonvoltage. Gingerbread 2.3.4
I find this combo much faster than the stock one, smooth and pretty stable. Actually I have some reboots when I stress a lot my device, but they are rare.
So I don't want to renounce to Cyanogen features as the stock rom was really slow IMHO and I will give a try to NSCollab 1.0.35 very soon!
No problems in answering, good radio performance, faster than light (quadrant score: 3600) !! I can survive with a couple of reboot in a week!!

Too much porn?
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Why don't you people stop confusing CM7 with a stable ROM? CyanogenMod and netarchy kernel are probably the most crappy android software that were ever made.
I suggest you use Oxygen ROM and Jame Bond kernel. No fancy quadrant benchmarks, stock ROM with basic functions like notification power control and text reflow in browser, zipaligned and all that stuff. Delete setcpu, delete juicedefender and other crappy so called battery savers, do not undervolt and do not touch the CPU frequency. Just let the ROM run like it is supposed to, don't fill it with all the bloatware you find on market that is said to increase performance or battery life, all they do is eating system resources.
I have yet to find a better combination like this for the nexus S, I am using the ROM since 3 days now without a single reboot/FC/freeze/bootloop. I am playing order and chaos MMO 2-3 hours and I can go through the full day without problems, the phone is responsive and simply works, no fancy sh*t.

Using the stock, all is fine..
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lvnatic said:
Why don't you people stop confusing CM7 with a stable ROM? CyanogenMod and netarchy kernel are probably the most crappy android software that were ever made.
I suggest you use Oxygen ROM and Jame Bond kernel. No fancy quadrant benchmarks, stock ROM with basic functions like notification power control and text reflow in browser, zipaligned and all that stuff. Delete setcpu, delete juicedefender and other crappy so called battery savers, do not undervolt and do not touch the CPU frequency. Just let the ROM run like it is supposed to, don't fill it with all the bloatware you find on market that is said to increase performance or battery life, all they do is eating system resources.
I have yet to find a better combination like this for the nexus S, I am using the ROM since 3 days now without a single reboot/FC/freeze/bootloop. I am playing order and chaos MMO 2-3 hours and I can go through the full day without problems, the phone is responsive and simply works, no fancy sh*t.
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How does oxygen rom compare to oxygen rom with james bond kernel? I installed the oxygen rom last night and have had no problems so far. Time will tell how it holds up in the long run.

lvnatic said:
Why don't you people stop confusing CM7 with a stable ROM? CyanogenMod and netarchy kernel are probably the most crappy android software that were ever made.
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Yeah... if it wasn't for that crap you would have **** for your ROM.
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Should I get a 540 as festival phone?

Hello, I I am going to Roskilde festival in Denmark next week, and I need a copy a cheap phone, as my Galaxy Nexus is too expensive to bring :/
Would the 540 be a good choice? How is the screen, the battery time and the speed of the phone? What version of android can it be upgraded to (any stable custom Roms?). My biggest concern is the resistive screen :/ How about flash in browser? Is multi touch supported?
The other phone I am looking at is Vodafone 828

Flash? --> No.
Multi-touch?--> No.
Custom Rom?--> 2.1 , 2.2 , 2.3 , 4.0
Battery life?--> Better then the nexus for sure (even better then my sgs2)
This phone is good for calls and sms. If you are coming from a nexus browsing will be a big headache due to the shear difference in web page loading times.

It should be fine as a cheap replacement, battery life is good, phone itself is pretty solid. Resistive screen is fine unless you'll mess with custom roms as these doesn't have screen working calibration which makes operating on the device without stylus pretty difficult. Performance on on the stock 2.1 is rather decent, browsing experience is rather poor on it, gaming and system responsiveness are fine. The situation does change when you're using custom roms ( especially those with .32 and .35 kernels ) but you'll lose screen calibration. You won't notice much difference in browsing between your nexus and gt540 if you'll use .35 kernel and OC. There are two almost perfect custom roms ( with .32 and .35 kernels ) In other words gt540 may not be perfect but it will be definitely better than vodafone 858, unless you want phone only for texting and calling.

shadovraven said:
You won't notice much difference in browsing between your nexus and gt540 if you'll use .35 kernel and OC.
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You will definitely !
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if your on custom rom you'll never get perfect stabilty. from time to time it will lag a bit but for a few days a custom GT540 might be ok.
If you really choose it you will have to take your time to get it from 1.6/2.1 to e.g 2.3 with adequate kernel

Hell yeh if i ever make a vid comparing browsing speeds you will tell!

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Hell yeh if i ever make a vid comparing browsing speeds you will tell!
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I had old nexus in my mind, that's why.
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You will definitely !
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if your on custom rom you'll never get perfect stabilty. from time to time it will lag a bit but for a few days a custom GT540 might be ok.
If you really choose it you will have to take your time to get it from 1.6/2.1 to e.g 2.3 with adequate kernel
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I tested almost all customs roms, some of them for few months or more and i didn't experienced any lags and problems ( miroslav lewa os, sdsl v2.1 ). If you can't take care of your rom even stock rom will lag and pose problems.

sdsl 2.1 is good

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If you can't take care of your rom even stock rom will lag and pose problems.
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don't you think its normal to install 10-20 apps ?

u have to re-size system partition and have a swap partition the phone will work flawlessly i get a charge of 2 days using complete WiFi

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don't you think its normal to install 10-20 apps ?
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Of course it's, im having like 30 apps installed on my phone now ( SDSL v2.1 with .3 5 kernel ) and everything works fine. The problem's that most of the people doesn't even bother to resize system partition size or do a full wipe. Installed apps are not a problem, the ones that are running in the background all the time, taking cpu time, memory and killing battery ( load of various widgets and other useless stuff, launchers that are heavy on memory / cpu and such ) 90 % of people problem with certain custom roms would be solved by just reading properly, that's the truth. Unless you can explain how i managed to get SDSL v2.1 to work with .35 kernel ( and other roms as well ) while others can't. That's enough of an offtopic, i'm sure OP does know his answer now.

i know we dont need to resize system partition but i had partitioned it for miroslavs ics and kept it like that since i had 256mb swap

How is the screen to use on this phone? I have almost no nails, so I am afraid of the resitive screen :/

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How is the screen to use on this phone? I have almost no nails, so I am afraid of the resitive screen :/
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2.3 roms + new display are ok
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If you're afraid of the screen, you can always get some cheap stylus or make it yourself ( from a pen ) and it will be fine.

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How is the screen to use on this phone? I have almost no nails, so I am afraid of the resitive screen :/
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I think screen responsiveness it's a lot better on miroslav ICS than on previous roms. On GB I had to push very hard on the screen or it won't catch the touch.

X8 performance

My X8 runned on GDX every since the v12-13 came out til now, and i was experiencing random boots and freezes every while. (was on dx's LinuxDX then transfered to Alfs (all up to date)), and i decided to try new ROM.
I put on miniCM9 with nAa latest kernel and gave it a shot.
Same thing. I installed it 3 hours ago, already had a random reboot, and performance is awful, freezes, stopped responding apps...
I overclocked to every single value, tried every governor, did swap, KSM, u name it i tried it...
How to fix this? I thought everyone was experinceing that :/
Suggestions?
(Sry 4 bad english)

How much did u overclocked to?
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Thats not a problem, most of the time i stayed at 600-691 high, i tried to go higher but even worse. If there are problems at 600, i dont think its the processor... (my guess)

Install any lighter rom, cm7 or cm6.

Try shin engine rom, even very powerful and faster in stock kernel
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I'm using MiniCM9 for 3 days (or more?) now. the ROM was extremely lag at the first time I got it installed. then I overclock the CPU to 806Mhz +128MB swap + AMM + Greenify. these makes my phone flying(just metaphors lol) and imma keep this running until I switch to other JB ROM.

Maybe it runs fast but not that fast like froyo. Android 4 and up is designed for better phones, every app is much more heavier than on for example froyo. Froyo with custom kernel is really flying on this phone. App like phone, sms, settings starts in less than 2 sec - this is impossible on ics, jb. Next thing which is really annoying on 4.1 that it can't be used with one finger (no zoom buttons) and fake dt causes errors on new kernel. Music works really bad on 4.1, sound has lower quality, and music is very laggy. It has lag every time you try to wake up screen, back to home etc.

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Maybe it runs fast but not that fast like froyo. Android 4 and up is designed for better phones, every app is much more heavier than on for example froyo. Froyo with custom kernel is really flying on this phone. App like phone, sms, settings starts in less than 2 sec - this is impossible on ics, jb. Next thing which is really annoying on 4.1 that it can't be used with one finger (no zoom buttons) and fake dt causes errors on new kernel. Music works really bad on 4.1, sound has lower quality, and music is very laggy. It has lag every time you try to wake up screen, back to home etc.
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what jb kernel/rom are you talking about? while i agree that froyopro is faster (it is froyo), naa's jb rom is far from what you described. i don't experience sleep of death anymore. sound quality is the same (it's more of a hardware thing although there are some tweaks to improve it by a little), and i'm using playerpro not the default app and it though it doesn't start as fast as froyopro the difference at most is a second. apps you mention start in 2 secs on jb. fake dt is fixable by using dx's module instead of the default. on top of that i have tsf shell on my x8 with jb and smart launcher on my x8 with froyopro. 90 apps in all. i've beem using minicm10 since naa first released it. and i've also tried daveee's jb rom which is quite good.
froyopro (i prefer froyobread tbh) may be faster, but jb roms aren't as horrible as you make them out to be.
Just because i don't doesn't mean i can't.

I know, I was using fake dt by dx but it causing errors. In some games when you touch by two fingers it's getting force close Ok, apps starts in 2 sec but only if you haven't got any cached apps. Music (I can live with lower quality) is laggy, it makes my very angry. Next thing is that you shouldn't use heavy apps with background processes because it slows down phone. I need some apps like maps or facebook messenger. I know about Greenify but that isn't a point. I'm using liveview - it is bluetooth watch, it need to have a few processes in background. Connection on jb is unstable when you try to do something on phone (exacly as on eclair).
I don't know, maybe my x8 don't like jelly beans

point taken. probably the biggest factor that causes us different experiences with jb roms are the apps we have and use. i don't use greenify either. i don't use task killers at all. well, different people have different needs. my x8 likes beans though. and we're way off topic.
@op: have you tried a clean flash? maybe even reflash kernel?
Just because i don't doesn't mean i can't.

@cascabel
you're right !! there are lots of JB roms, but some of them good for daily use.. JB roms need to tweak the build.prop a little bit..
i run MiniCM10 with high performance(ofcoursethebatterywon'tholdlong) tweaking=boostperformance...

I tried almost everything, reflashing too, i only dont have random reboots and freezes on stock
day two on cm9, its been better than the early start but still horrible :/
I could try cm10 and see if my X8 likes jb, if dont, hello froyopro...
P.S: I think cell signal can be problem. My signal is constantly weak, every once in a while signal kinda disables itself (no signal) then it stays for a couple of seconds that way, then goes back to 3-4 bars 8at home). When i talk on mobile with someone, every couple of minutes im getting kicked out of call, because of that signal fail....
I dunno if that is case with stock rom, cause i havent been on him much ...
Thoughts?

i believe it is the carrier's problem my friend, you are being disconnected because the one's you are calling have no signal

plus, every while i have to write pin code on and one because cellfhone kinda restartes, not fully, just freezes in browser for example, stays at that for about of minute and returns to lockscreen with asking me to put on a pin code. So thats a celling problem i guess.
Also, thats an issue with wifi too, keeps restarting every 5-10 minutes, depends on distance between me and router, and that cell and wifi signal, when they are low/no signal, restarting, my phone is kinda strugling and that causes freezing, blocking, restarting (x8 is not very powerfull to keep strugling so it kinda restarts). I thought its a ram problem, but on alfs thats not the case, (im not sure for nAa) so it has to be something else. I hope I found it..
Dayum, im awesome
Tnx everyone

Firstly when you said you were running CM9 with the "latest naa kernel", did you mean 2.6.32.6 or 2.6.29.6? Because that can make a huge difference.

Just use ES Task Manager and disabled app that you do not want to use it..
by using the startup manager setting to enabled or disabled app..

scremo91 said:
Just use ES Task Manager and disabled app that you do not want to use it..
by using the startup manager setting to enabled or disabled app..
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then simply remove the app you're not using. we've been through countless task manager/killer apps discussions it's not funny anymore.
Just because i don't doesn't mean i can't.

soso90 said:
It usually didn't happened
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Err..what? This is not the way to get 10 posts.