[Q] swap lcd's Android tablet to Windows tablet - Hardware Hacking General

I hope my post is in the right spot.
Anybody know if the connectors are the same for a LCD from a Samsung 10.1 (p7500) as the LCD in a windows tablet?
I have a Gigabyte S1082 (windows) tablet that has a 10.1 display, however the display on my Samsung Android 10.1 is by far far far superior. The LCD inside the Samsung has a way better back-light, better colors, and a way better viewing angle.
I don't think its a film or a protector on the digitizer, I think its a cheap LCD inside the Gigabyte.
Not sure if the width or height is the same, but I would think as most hardware for windows is plug n play, I could put any LCD in if it were the same dimensions right?
Ebay has lots of LCD's for the Samsung p7500.

interesting thread.. tjinking abt doing that too

I am not sure the chip that is soldered on the main board that communicates with the LCD is matched to a specific LCD or not. The Samsung 10.1 uses Samsung CMC6230R chip, and that resides on the main. Not sure about the Gigabyte tablet. However I would be willing to bet it might support a variety, because the tablet has VGA and hdmi out connectors.
I want to know if anybody has attempted to use a Samsung P7500 LCD on a different brand of tablet.

You can do this in a laptop, since the LCD is connected to a cable that passes through the hinge into the main body and plugs into the graphic board with a standardized connector.
In the case of tablets, things are a little more complex. If you open your Galaxy, you will see a long flat cable that connects the main board with the LCD screen (actually you will see three: one for the LCD, other for the touch glass and a third one for the docking connector). This flat cable is a plastic sheet with circuit tracks printed in it is shaped in a way that makes it rest just at the main board video connector. A different tablet can have the video connector in another place and so the LCD for that tablet will have a flat cable with a different shape.
What's more, if your tablet uses Wacom technology for use with a stylus, the "Wacom tablet" part will be integrated with the LCD and the flat wire will drive the signals for both the video and the Wacom digitizer.
As an example, the screens of the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 and the Galaxy Note 10.1 are the same size and have the same resolution but they are not interchangeable because one has the Wacom digitizer and the other not so the connectors are different.
I don't think there is any standardization in the LCD connectors of tablets so chances are you can not connect your Galaxy LCD in your Gigabyte tablet.
But don't take my word for true. why don't you open your tablets and have a look to the flat cables and video connector to see if they look the same? Or you can browse ebay for LCDs for both tablets and most probably you can see the flat cable in the pictures.

Thanks
thanks for the info

Maybe Yes ... Maybe No ...
like @jedikalimero already said ...
Open the hardware and see the connector
If it the same connector, you can change it ...
I'm already saw my Friends changing LCD on Handphone
When he use the Original LCD, the backlight and color is smooth. Better than Assembling LCD (Not Ori)
But ... since this case is on SmartPhone (Tablet), you better googling the LCD
and Compare it with yourself without Open you Tablet hardware
CMIIW

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difference between LCD with black and LCD with golden flex cable

Hi there!
I need to replace the flex cable of my M3100, and I found something on ebay, well there are 2 different kind of LCDs: the ones with black and the others with golden flex cables, well what the hell is the difference? There must be one, cuz the seller sells main flex cables, which some are designed for the LCDs with black and some for the LCDs with golden cables.
Isn't it totally unimportant what color the cables are?
regards, Sebid
Better not take a chance and buy the same color you had before.
However, if, for some reason, you HAVE to take a chance, I'd go for golden as they are the most common.
However, I doubt there's a difference as all hermes are internally the same (aside from the 3G video call camera in the front for some models like the 8525)
Yeah be careful one is most likely after market which I never trust.

Screen damaged, touchscreen not working

Ok, I'm a complete idiot and let my Nexus 7 fall and now I have a hairline crack. At first I thought it would be fine, since it is a very fine crack - almost unnoticeable, and the Nexus didn't even turn off. The screen looks fine but, alas, the touchscreen is not. I get no response at all. This does not appear to be the first time this has happened (a quick search on Ebay turns up several damaged Nexuses being sold for the exact same reason - A shame no-one is selling a damaged one which still had a working screen).
My question is (since I know you cannot simply replace the touchscreen elements, you have to replace the whole screen which is probably not worth the time and effort compared to buying a new one) is it possible that the touchscreen controls came loose or something such that it could be fixed, or is it tied into the screen so since I have an image it must mean that the digitizer is ruined. I hope something can be done, especially since something similar happened to my Galaxy Note a month ago and it has a shattered screen (way worse than the Nexus) but it's touchscreen still works just fine (maybe someone should keep me away from tech, this keeps happening...). Or do I have to accept my fate and lay my Nexus to rest.
Ekreed said:
Ok, I'm a complete idiot and let my Nexus 7 fall and now I have a hairline crack. At first I thought it would be fine, since it is a very fine crack - almost unnoticeable, and the Nexus didn't even turn off. The screen looks fine but, alas, the touchscreen is not. I get no response at all. This does not appear to be the first time this has happened (a quick search on Ebay turns up several damaged Nexuses being sold for the exact same reason - A shame no-one is selling a damaged one which still had a working screen).
My question is (since I know you cannot simply replace the touchscreen elements, you have to replace the whole screen which is probably not worth the time and effort compared to buying a new one) is it possible that the touchscreen controls came loose or something such that it could be fixed, or is it tied into the screen so since I have an image it must mean that the digitizer is ruined. I hope something can be done, especially since something similar happened to my Galaxy Note a month ago and it has a shattered screen (way worse than the Nexus) but it's touchscreen still works just fine (maybe someone should keep me away from tech, this keeps happening...). Or do I have to accept my fate and lay my Nexus to rest.
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Corning FIT Glass is a new product that is rather interesting. It's a much thinner section of glass with high scratch resistance and is pretty strong in respect to it's thickness/thinness. A product spec sheet shows it close to but not the same as Gorilla Glass and likely due to the thinness in comparison, but deffinetly superior to the standard Soda-Lime Glass formula used by many.
The key features of Fit is that the digitizer and glass are bonded together and is then bonded to the display for an complete "airless" display. I'm suprised Google doesn't make more of this as the Kindle Fire HD is making a big deal about their display tech. Pretty much the only difference is the display "cemented" to the back of the Corning Fit Glass/Digitizer product.
So when it all works, it provides a display result and responsiveness you didn't experience with the older technologies.
BUT.. When it does break, the digitizer being directly bonded to the glass is also broken. So you see the trade off for the new technology. No air gaps between the components prevents the possibility of a screen protector to "hold it together" and allow you to still use it even after the display is broken. So once broken, the display is useless. I believe the technology is sound, but the application used by ASUS in the manufacturing of their tablet may be exposing the edge of the display as that seems to be called out in the spec sheet. I'd push ASUS support hard on this as a manufacturing defect and try to get a replacement.
Some examples of the technology:
Specs: http://www.corning.com/WorkArea/showcontent.aspx?id=43401
Comparison to discrete glass technologies (including Gorilla Glass).
http://www.corning.com/specialtymaterials/products_capabilities/iox/ioxvsdiscrete.aspx

Cracked screen

I dropped my tablet on the table and the screen cracked.
Does anyone know where I can buy a spare screen?
I have tried to search for it but without any luck
You're going to have a tough time finding the screen. If it's just the display itself (not the glass or digitizers), you can find the display for around $60-70 (I can't post URLs, laptopscreen is a company that sells it). Remember that this is just the actual display under the glass, and that you will have to take apart the display/frame assembly itself, which I've never done before.
If you broke the front glass or the digitizers, you're going to have a much tougher time... I dropped my Galaxy Nexus on my TPT, and shattered the screen. Both the touch and pen digitizers stopped working. I had to switch to Pen Only mode to use the tablet without any random movements, and even then I needed to use the keyboard folio. Your options include:
1. Have Lenovo replace the screen ($750 incl. labor and parts).
2. Buy the replacement LCD/frame assembly from IBM/Lenovo (Part #s 04W2150, 04W2151, or 04W2152 if I recall correctly). This is the entire front half of the tablet (glass, digitizer, LCD, buttons, frame and all). If I recall correctly, the prices are $922, $1785, and unlisted respectively for the part numbers.
3. Buy a broken tablet and cannibalize it for parts.
I'm sure you see the only option that makes financial sense is #3, since you can get a refurb or new TPT from $200-300. It's kind of funny. The cost of replacing the screen including parts is more expensive than the entire tablet at launch, and the cost of the part itself is more expensive than the cost of the part and the labor. It's asinine!
Unfortunately, it's also the most time consuming and frustrating option. Be persistent, and don't pay more than you want to. I snagged a 64GB TPT with a broken power button with a failed repair (apparently, they didn't realize you're not supposed to have a solder blob touch multiple contacts of a switch) for $65+shipping with a desk dock. I did a quick screen switch, though I plan on fixing the switch later on for that extra 32GB of storage...
The best deal you'll usually find on eBay is one where the seller doesn't list it in a way that it's easily found by someone else using search. Here are a few search terms I used:
thinkpad tablet
thinkpad 10.1
thinkpad 1838
thinkpad 1839 (this is how I found mine)
thinkpad android
Just keep looking. The process of replacing the screen itself is easy. 2 screws, a quick opening of the plastic case, and 3 ribbon cables. Look at the 3G modem installation videos for more help. Good luck!
TooBigToFit said:
You're going to have a tough time finding the screen. If it's just the display itself (not the glass or digitizers), you can find the display for around $60-70 (I can't post URLs, laptopscreen is a company that sells it). Remember that this is just the actual display under the glass, and that you will have to take apart the display/frame assembly itself, which I've never done before.
If you broke the front glass or the digitizers, you're going to have a much tougher time... I dropped my Galaxy Nexus on my TPT, and shattered the screen. Both the touch and pen digitizers stopped working. I had to switch to Pen Only mode to use the tablet without any random movements, and even then I needed to use the keyboard folio. Your options include:
1. Have Lenovo replace the screen ($750 incl. labor and parts).
2. Buy the replacement LCD/frame assembly from IBM/Lenovo (Part #s 04W2150, 04W2151, or 04W2152 if I recall correctly). This is the entire front half of the tablet (glass, digitizer, LCD, buttons, frame and all). If I recall correctly, the prices are $922, $1785, and unlisted respectively for the part numbers.
3. Buy a broken tablet and cannibalize it for parts.
I'm sure you see the only option that makes financial sense is #3, since you can get a refurb or new TPT from $200-300. It's kind of funny. The cost of replacing the screen including parts is more expensive than the entire tablet at launch, and the cost of the part itself is more expensive than the cost of the part and the labor. It's asinine!
Unfortunately, it's also the most time consuming and frustrating option. Be persistent, and don't pay more than you want to. I snagged a 64GB TPT with a broken power button with a failed repair (apparently, they didn't realize you're not supposed to have a solder blob touch multiple contacts of a switch) for $65+shipping with a desk dock. I did a quick screen switch, though I plan on fixing the switch later on for that extra 32GB of storage...
The best deal you'll usually find on eBay is one where the seller doesn't list it in a way that it's easily found by someone else using search. Here are a few search terms I used:
thinkpad tablet
thinkpad 10.1
thinkpad 1838
thinkpad 1839 (this is how I found mine)
thinkpad android
Just keep looking. The process of replacing the screen itself is easy. 2 screws, a quick opening of the plastic case, and 3 ribbon cables. Look at the 3G modem installation videos for more help. Good luck!
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My bad. Its just the glass that has got a new not too interesting pattern.
I live in Denmark and they are not common here - and importing one for parts wont be cheap due to custom rules ...
Well I will have to try to find one for parts then on ebay i guess .. now I think i might be a little mad at my self
But THX for your advice and guidance

Can the screens be swapped between units?

Thinking of putting together the best box from the two i currently have: the 9" screen and bezel and the internals of the 8"
I opened the 9" screen (doesn't void the "warranty" since the 4x screws are lateral) and it's connected to the main board via two flat slim cables, IDE-like, but much slimmer.
Whatcha think? Do-able or not?
ok to answer myself: you can't. opened the 8" unit and it's connected by a single flat cable, not two like in the 9".

Did the Nexus 7 LCD separated from front glass get damaged?

One of my friends, after drinking too much, thrashed my tablet to the floor, way back in 2013. The digitizer and speakers died of the shock. Still it worked with mouse and headphones. I did the final damage in 2014, when I intended to buy a digitizer; so I separated the LCD from the front glass by blowing hot air. Actually I unscrewed the front panel assembly first, then blowed hot air on it and pulled the LCD backwards slowly from one side with the help of a small flat-head screwdriver as a lever. I did not know the functioning of LCD panels back then. I removed some rainbow colored semiliquid, thinking it to be glue, from the separated surfaces with the help of isopropanol. I observed that the LCD went uniformly white when switched on. That being my my first android device I could not throw it out. After three long years, I examined it again. The battery was dead. Still it will switch on from direct 5V input after a little mod. Now I see that another glass layer at least 1mm thick, smaller from bezel and exactly the size of LCD, is sticking behind the front glass. This combo works as a polarizer. Now I doubt whether what I thought to be glue was actually the liquid crystal layer itself. Pictures attached. Any clue on what actually had happened back then? Is there no option but to throw out the display assembly?
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you sir, have ****ed up. based on what I am seeing here (and I am far from an expert) you have indeed removed the liquid crystals from the display. You're tablet is ****ed. Buy a new Nexus 7, and swap the mother board from your old one and stick it in the new one if you want to keep the whole "first android device" feeling. Otherwise, your "first android device" is broken. I only reccomend this, because an LCD replacement is about 30$, whereas you can pick up a good condition used Nexus 7 8GB (who cared how big the storage is, your swapping boards) off ebay for around the same price. Good Luck with whatever your next move is.
I heartily thank you for insulting my foolishness. I really needed one to move on from lingering false hope.

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