It seems there is very little information on this device so far, and it's spread across several threads. Here's what I found so far:
NOTE: This is for the international version I-8730 and AT&T model I-437. Since I have the I-8730 will add my personal experience on this model only.
Rooting
Using Motochopper. Worked fine in my Vodafone branded I-8720 with 4.1.2 --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40770093&postcount=2
Using Unlockroot.com, reported to work with I-437 --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2037692
Original Samsung Firmware
List of european firmwares for I-8730 (only tested I8730XWAMC4 / OXXAMC3 and I8730XXAMB8 / OXAAMB8 so far) --> http://www.tsar3000.com/Joomla/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=856:samsung-i8730-galaxy-express-firmwares&catid=55:samsung&Itemid=82
Unlocking
A member reported the S3 method works. Did not work on my phone. --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38971203&postcount=15
CWM
Working CWM reported by user jjchico, see thread for instructions -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46521596&postcount=121
OUDHS Touch CWM-based Recovery for I-437 (Not tested in I-8730) --> OUDHS Touch CWM-based Recovery
Initial work, no reports yet that it works --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2285898
Custom ROMS
Nothing yet...
Open Source Code (Thanks to tanrsquare)
The following files are available for GT-I8730:
GT-I8730_JB_Opensource.zip
GT-I8730T_JB_Opensource.zip
GT-I8730_HK_JB_Opensource.zip
GT-I8730_LATIN_JB_Opensource.zip
GT-I8730_SEA_JB_Opensource.zip
The following files are available for GT-I437:
SGH-I437Z_ATT_JB_Opensource.zip
SGH-I437_ATT_ICS_Opensource.zip
Other info
Biggest thread yet on I-8730 and I-437 where I got most of the information -->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2037692
If you have any other info just post a reply or send PM and I'll update this list.
Jus Some Developments Info
Hey, source codes is available... Just for a heads up for interested devs!
I had browse the web and found that the source codes for i8730 for various models of i8730. These are all available on Samsung open code release center (OSRC) at opensourcesamsung(dot)com. They are as follows:
Classification Model Version Source Code
Mobile Phone GT-I8730 GT-I8730_JB_Opensource.zip
Mobile Phone GT-I8730T AMD2 GT-I8730T_JB_Opensource.zip
Mobile Phone GT-I8730_HK GT-I8730_HK_JB_Opensource.zip
Mobile Phone GT-I8730_LA GT-I8730_LATIN_JB_Opensource.zip
Mobile Phone GT-I8730_SEA GT-I8730_SEA_JB_Opensource.zip
Me am not developer but a user and owner of this model! As a user, there are just much restrictions from stock OS such as carriers limitations, limited features, and all official roms available are according to respective countries carrier and lack of lots of great tweaks and apps. Although root is available, but its limited as few tweaks that I can play with like V6 Supercharger, link2sd etc. That's why I'm always looking forward to customs! They are great! I know that why me nv grab hold of one that can be customized is due to of course simple, cost restriction. This is jus a great, budgeted, with potential (underclocked), fast, 4G device available in market.
To keep things short pls devs just look alittle in this device, and if customized eg, roms, kernels , I believe that other models with the same chipset and GPU can benefit as well! Models like the new Mega 6.3 and also unreleased S4 Mini! They are all using the same Qualcomm MSM8930 Snapdragon 400!!!
Yeah! Go mid-range devices!!! :fingers-crossed:
Thanks tanrsquare, will add that info to the inicial post.
What about CWM?
I suppose you know that without a working (backup, restore) custom recovery, flashing any rom may permanently brick our phone, so, the next step after root shod be CWM Recovery.
Any news about a working one? Saw that the i-437 has one already...
Info about CWM for i8730
Hey, doarmga... I'm quite agree with u. A CWM is quite an essential for customizing ROMs, without it, ODIN will be needed if there are going to be problems, and that's bad as it increases the binary counter... omg.
Me too, am one of the guys looking ard for i8730 recovery which is stable and usable, but I can predict tht none exists yet currently. I have search the web as well as XDA and I came to this site: builder(dot)clockworkmod(dot)com/ ...
This allows people to build recovery but then there are details tht are required and catch me no balls haha... Example lik recovery.fstab, graphics.c which I think this should somehow that are needed for the tool to work properly before the CWM recovery can be generated. I think this is similar to the thread -> showthread.php?t=2285898tht someone has tried.
tanrsquare said:
Hey, doarmga... I'm quite agree with u. A CWM is quite an essential for customizing ROMs, without it, ODIN will be needed if there are going to be problems, and that's bad as it increases the binary counter... omg.
Me too, am one of the guys looking ard for i8730 recovery which is stable and usable, but I can predict tht none exists yet currently. I have search the web as well as XDA and I came to this site: builder(dot)clockworkmod(dot)com/ ...
This allows people to build recovery but then there are details tht are required and catch me no balls haha... Example lik recovery.fstab, graphics.c which I think this should somehow that are needed for the tool to work properly before the CWM recovery can be generated. I think this is similar to the thread -> showthread.php?t=2285898tht someone has tried.
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You can obtain a recovery.fstab when you create your own CWM online then snooping around inside the downloaded zip file. Also there is the existence of a vold.fstab but I don't think that would be of any help.
About the binary counter, why don't you use TriangleAway? I can confirm it works.
P.S. LOL I never knew someone would actually read my recovery thread, let alone quote it. Heh. Thanks, people.
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hello, in a couple of weeks i will get this phone, i have one question, how is the display? i`m asking because of the low resolution on a big screen.
Ok, now some serious talk... we can get a temporary CWM recovery, sadly some samsung phones have the recovery partition on the kernel, so you need to build a new kernel with CWM, sadly i am not a kernel developer, and i don`t have to much knowledge. For overclock we need a custom kernel... the only thing i know is to build roms, but first we need a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP. I think i can make a temporary CWM but more tests i will make when my phone will get to me
About the screen
petraru1 said:
hello, in a couple of weeks i will get this phone, i have one question, how is the display? i`m asking because of the low resolution on a big screen.
Ok, now some serious talk... we can get a temporary CWM recovery, sadly some samsung phones have the recovery partition on the kernel, so you need to build a new kernel with CWM, sadly i am not a kernel developer, and i don`t have to much knowledge. For overclock we need a custom kernel... the only thing i know is to build roms, but first we need a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP. I think i can make a temporary CWM but more tests i will make when my phone will get to me
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For the screen, overall looks Ookaayy is what I can say. It may not be as sharp as those high def display n colours looks better with higher brightness I felt. And yup for videos using stock player, mostly able to stretch fully, covering the whole screen except for some with weird resolution. Youtube videos mostly can cover the whole screen except for some old music videos with low resolutions, a little borders at the sides may be notice, but the top n bottoms doesn't have any. For high res like 1080p is able to cover the screen. Words n Clock n widgets seems to appear a little bigger n stretched. Gaming still fine n temple run 2 is really quite sharp that I love its graphics... :cyclops: But, then when open up a SWF game or app using an SWF player, some are unable to output full display, show only mostly the center and sides surrounding it being cut off... That's my experience about its screen but yup looks okay though. :silly:
petraru1 said:
hello, in a couple of weeks i will get this phone, i have one question, how is the display? i`m asking because of the low resolution on a big screen.
Ok, now some serious talk... we can get a temporary CWM recovery, sadly some samsung phones have the recovery partition on the kernel, so you need to build a new kernel with CWM, sadly i am not a kernel developer, and i don`t have to much knowledge. For overclock we need a custom kernel... the only thing i know is to build roms, but first we need a custom recovery like CWM or TWRP. I think i can make a temporary CWM but more tests i will make when my phone will get to me
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Yay! Now we have another reason to not sell the phone.
P.S. )If this info helps in any way, haha) The Express I8730, like some Samsung phones, follows an mmc format. The recovery partition is /dev/block/mmcblk0p18 (so if I want to flash a custom recovery.img, all I have to do is pull up a terminal and type
Code:
su
dd if=/storage/extSdCard/recovery.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p18
* In this example, I located my img on the external SD. If yours is on the internal then use /sdcard instead.
Resolution is 480x800.
tanrsquare said:
For the screen, overall looks Ookaayy is what I can say. It may not be as sharp as those high def display n colours looks better with higher brightness I felt. And yup for videos using stock player, mostly able to stretch fully, covering the whole screen except for some with weird resolution. Youtube videos mostly can cover the whole screen except for some old music videos with low resolutions, a little borders at the sides may be notice, but the top n bottoms doesn't have any. For high res like 1080p is able to cover the screen. Words n Clock n widgets seems to appear a little bigger n stretched. Gaming still fine n temple run 2 is really quite sharp that I love its graphics... :cyclops: But, then when open up a SWF game or app using an SWF player, some are unable to output full display, show only mostly the center and sides surrounding it being cut off... That's my experience about its screen but yup looks okay though. :silly:
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I agree. But how in the world did you get SWF games to play? Adobe says Android 4 onwards are not supported by Flash anymore.
aureljared said:
Yay! Now we have another reason to not sell the phone.
P.S. )If this info helps in any way, haha) The Express I8730, like some Samsung phones, follows an mmc format. The recovery partition is /dev/block/mmcblk0p18 (so if I want to flash a custom recovery.img, all I have to do is pull up a terminal and type
Code:
su
dd if=/storage/extSdCard/recovery.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p18
* In this example, I located my img on the external SD. If yours is on the internal then use /sdcard instead.
Resolution is 480x800.
I agree. But how in the world did you get SWF games to play? Adobe says Android 4 onwards are not supported by Flash anymore.
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you can still install adobe flash player apk, just search here on xda
on my s advance Kernel and recovery (stock or custom) are in the same partition. So they must come in package, some other phones can install it separatly, because it is not connected to kernel partition. Until i get my hands on the phone i can`t be sure, but a temporary recovery is posible on stock kernel, what temp recovery means? after you reboot you lose the CWM, but for example if u make a back-up after you reflash CWM you can restore your backup.
Don`t get your hopes too high about CM, it requires allot of knowledge, in my s advance is a team of 8 developer... and they dont have yet a stable release. I can look into it but it will take time. What i can develop more easy? a ROM based on stock witch will have 0 bugs , but first CWM
Regarding CWM could someone provide me recovery.fstab? using root browser it can be found in the etc folder.
Flash on JB; about the screen.
I've searched google about flash on android 4.1 and there are quite a handful of tutorials about it. Can't post links yet but if you google it, it will show up. Basically you have to download a flash apk located somewhere on xda and install it. Also, you need a browser with flash support such as Boat browser, Dolphin or Firefox. (Chrome and the standard android 4.1 browser don't allow flash at all.)
About the screen i can honestly say that even though it has the exact same resolution as my "old" Galaxy S Plus, it looks crisper on the 4.5 display on the Express. Don't know how they managed to do this, maybe something to do with the updated pentile matrix found in SuperAMOLED Plus (3 subpixels per pixel vs. 2 subpixels and a shared one between two adjacent pixels in the "old" SAMOLED).
doarmga said:
I've searched google about flash on android 4.1 and there are quite a handful of tutorials about it. Can't post links yet but if you google it, it will show up. Basically you have to download a flash apk located somewhere on xda and install it. Also, you need a browser with flash support such as Boat browser, Dolphin or Firefox. (Chrome and the standard android 4.1 browser don't allow flash at all.)
About the screen i can honestly say that even though it has the exact same resolution as my "old" Galaxy S Plus, it looks crisper on the 4.5 display on the Express. Don't know how they managed to do this, maybe something to do with the updated pentile matrix found in SuperAMOLED Plus (3 subpixels per pixel vs. 2 subpixels and a shared one between two adjacent pixels in the "old" SAMOLED).
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Thanks a lot, I managed to find the APK. It does look crisper, but the only reason i have for Flash is Flash games. And Opera Classic has built-in Flash, so I don't need to worry about my browser.
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Regarding recovery.fstab
petraru1 said:
but first CWM
Regarding CWM could someone provide me recovery.fstab? using root browser it can be found in the etc folder.
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Errmmm... I had jus send my phone for repair becos of some gyro issue... I wonder anybody encounter this is tht about the 'Motion' feature in the Settings. When I activates it, the sensor jus keep moving to the right that I dun even have to move the device haha... This cause the pic in Gallery to move constantly and icon in main menu to jus keep moving. Strange thing is that it happens occasionally like let's say 1 wk, 7 days, about less than 3 days hav this prob, then the rest of the days works normally, in other words functionable n this keeps repeating. It makes me cracking my mind if it's a hardware or software issue n tis is jus weird... I tried lots of times on calibration n restarting device but still no luck. Or maybe jus for a short while haha... I heard of no sound after flashing another stock rom, but mine's jus the original stock. Ok... Sry about the nagging but mayb jus to share abit. :crying:
And for recovery.fstab file, I'll retrieve n upload it after collection of the phone... maybe in a few day's time sry abt that!
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Errmmm... I had jus send my phone for repair becos of some gyro issue... I wonder anybody encounter this is tht about the 'Motion' feature in the Settings. When I activates it, the sensor jus keep moving to the right that I dun even have to move the device haha... This cause the pic in Gallery to move constantly and icon in main menu to jus keep moving. Strange thing is that it happens occasionally like let's say 1 wk, 7 days, about less than 3 days hav this prob, then the rest of the days works normally, in other words functionable n this keeps repeating. It makes me cracking my mind if it's a hardware or software issue n tis is jus weird... I tried lots of times on calibration n restarting device but still no luck. Or maybe jus for a short while haha... I heard of no sound after flashing another stock rom, but mine's jus the original stock. Ok... Sry about the nagging but mayb jus to share abit. :crying:
And for recovery.fstab file, I'll retrieve n upload it after collection of the phone... maybe in a few day's time sry abt that!
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thanks, i managed to find it
if someone can test temporary CWM http://d-h.st/OBd
just put update.zip to sdcard, reboot to stock recovery, flash update from external storage, then reboot and hold down buttons for recovery.
tomorrow morning i will finish negotiating with my carrier, if all ends well, next week i will have the phone the only down side is after next week i will go on holiday with my family for 10 days
p.s how does this phone performs on high end games like modern combat 4, nfs most wanted, gta vice city, the dark knight rises?
from what i read on the internet the Qualcomm MSM8930 Snapdragon 400 Dual-core 1.2 GHz Krait and Adreno 305 is very good, it can beat some quad core CPUs i saw a benchmark and the scores are allmost like the S3 (because of screen resolution, but still, pretty slick )
Are there any current WIP roms for this specific device. I remember searching the entire forum for this phone a couple months back and there was little to no information, though the motochopper guide existed besides for the obvious root privileges there were no custom roms for the phone.
Fire98251 said:
Are there any current WIP roms for this specific device. I remember searching the entire forum for this phone a couple months back and there was little to no information, though the motochopper guide existed besides for the obvious root privileges there were no custom roms for the phone.
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not yet...
petraru1 said:
not yet...
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Do you own the phone?
petraru1 said:
thanks, i managed to find it
if someone can test temporary CWM http://d-h.st/OBd
just put update.zip to sdcard, reboot to stock recovery, flash update from external storage, then reboot and hold down buttons for recovery.
tomorrow morning i will finish negotiating with my carrier, if all ends well, next week i will have the phone the only down side is after next week i will go on holiday with my family for 10 days
p.s how does this phone performs on high end games like modern combat 4, nfs most wanted, gta vice city, the dark knight rises?
from what i read on the internet the Qualcomm MSM8930 Snapdragon 400 Dual-core 1.2 GHz Krait and Adreno 305 is very good, it can beat some quad core CPUs i saw a benchmark and the scores are allmost like the S3 (because of screen resolution, but still, pretty slick )
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Yay! Am trying it now.
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SO it seems there is no custom recovery for the device... I just got it a few days ago thinking WOW what a good phone and it also looks like the S3.. All of my phones have either been jailbroken or rooted. Turns out the phone has no recovery section. It's in the Kernel, so therefor you will need to build a whole new kernel.. I would love to have this device rooted with a recovery to install roms and such. I will also love to donate for the project if anyone does it.
ok, good news, i signed the contract with my carrier so the phone will get to me next week
Related
Okay, I may not have 1xxx number of posts, but I read, search, and try. If you're going to judge me from my number of posts, please grow up.
Aside from that, I've tried a **** load of configurations on my SGS2 since I got it in January(2012).
Including but not limited to:
Siyah Kernel, all kinds of mods, and configuration sets from various great tweakers out there, such as MagicPrefs and others.
N.E.A.K kernel, Dream Kernel by team Sky Fire, Dorminax, and many, many others.
I've tried many roms, Stock, CheckROM, Hydrogen, AOKP, CM7-10, etc.
After all of that mixing, matching, testing and using, I've finally come to a conclusion on the perfect build, that makes your phone super fast, stable as a rock, and best part is, it takes minimal tweaks. I've noticed the more "tweaks" I've loaded my phone with, the more, uh..funny it gets in terms of compatibility and issues down the road. And remember, tweaks don't necessarily mean improvement. At some point, I couldn't keep a phone log for more than a few days from the amount of flashing and changing I did..
So here it goes.
At the time of this writing,
ROM
cm-9-20120819-NIGHTLY-galaxys2
Start clean of course, wipe everything and install.
Kernel
Stock (the one that comes with the ROM above)
If you want to tweak the kernel or something, use the built-in Performance menu. I usually use ondemand/conservative on 200-1200. When I need super battery saving mode which is rarely, I go down to 200-800.
Tweaks
V6 SuperCharger
This is where all the magic happens
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16635544#post16635544
For the installation, it may seem overwhelming with the weird structure of information that tries to appeal to the advanced and novice, but its really simple(and friendly ). I suggest skipping the step one, the one that says about installing fixed su binary, and the whole "Super Charger Starter Kit" I tried it and it messed up my Super User instead, go straight to installing the script, works wonderful.
Other small tweaks which don't change the performance per say, but if you like a fast reactive phone, I recommend you try this:
In developers menu, set all the Animation scales to 0.5x from the default 1.0x. It simply speeds the animations. And if your launcher supports animation speed adjustments as well, such as Nova Launcher which is what I use, use Fast animation settings as well.
DPI
Many of us like to change the DPI, I recommend 213.
Why? Its the same as the Nexus 7, meaning you wont have to go through funny hoops to get Google Play Store working, and its decent, not too big nor too small.
Tip
If you hold the phone with the left hand, you're blocking the wifi chip antenna which is located in the bottom left of the phone. Try using a right hand grip on the phone when you're low on signal strength.
Use the app GetRIL app, it will suggest a matching Modem with your network for your phone.
Thats all. If I'm to sum the past 8 months of experience into one super knowledge of ultimate wisdom, this is it. No funny weird bugs. No 50 million kernel tweaks that don't seem to be doing much other than making the phone more unstable, etc. Only thing I miss is having a volume boost. I keep Voodoo Louder for that, but of course Siyah's built in free volume boost is great.
From here on, its preferable you know what you want in terms of apps. install what you need only. Nothing more, nothing less. If an app seems problematic, freeze/uninstall it.
And really, enjoy your phone. Forget flashing a new build every 6, 12 hours, or day or two depending on how severe your case of flashing is, and use it as its meant to be used.
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And really, enjoy your phone. Forget flashing a new build every 6, 12 hours, or day or two depending on how severe your case of flashing is, and use it as its meant to be used.
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What if flashing/tweaking/messing about IS the foremost enjoyment of "using" this phone... Not all people are alike :angel:
interested
but i dont get the infos from the supercharger thread right
its def too chaotic
I'd be weary of the getril app, some people have had problems with it
stable ?
AOSP dont like my phone for some reason
allways find it freezing on me
worst adivce ever
Lol, simple step for a stable S II is, ditch ICS and go back to Gingerbread.
Nuff said.
Swyping from my i9100 via Tt
Never had issues with ICS to be honest
DramatikBeats said:
Never had issues with ICS to be honest
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V6 Supercharger is useless on our phones.
Hi,
I have pressed the thanks button but anyway, thanks! I read the post this morning and actually, im on MIUI 2.7.18 now, dont really like it but for the last month or so i havent found a rom, not even stock, that works properly, i usually use cm9 without any mods but it hasnt worked properly eiher, the thing is that it did before, well, anyway, im talking too much for what i want to say, just to say that i havent had time to flash back to cm9 but on miui V6 SuperCharger works like a charm! At least its much faster! Thanks!
KQ9 said:
Tip
If you hold the phone with the left hand, you're blocking the wifi chip antenna which is located in the bottom left of the phone. Try using a right hand grip on the phone when you're low on signal strength.
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You must have some small hands? As both my hands will cover the fone so make no difference to me...:cyclops:
nyssa1104 said:
you must have some small hands? As both my hands will cover the fone so make no difference to me...:cyclops:
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+567468273642
How can i change the DPI? sorry im noob.
- Tapatalked!
Pfeffernuss said:
What if flashing/tweaking/messing about IS the foremost enjoyment of "using" this phone... Not all people are alike :angel:
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Haha I wouldnt mind that on a non main phone but the S 2 is the main
skarboy said:
interested
but i dont get the infos from the supercharger thread right
its def too chaotic
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Yeah I got slightly confused and overwhelmed at first too. All you gotta do really after installing CM9 is:
Download SManager
Download the V6 supercharger script from his thread, and rename it to end with ".sh" and place it in your internal storage root
and thats all the files you need. Use SManager to run the script with the su button on.
DramatikBeats said:
I'd be weary of the getril app, some people have had problems with it
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Oh yes thats true, GetRIL should be only used to find the modem match but no install anything with it.
Yandvoiris said:
stable ?
AOSP dont like my phone for some reason
allways find it freezing on me
worst adivce ever
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You must be missing a step or something.
allyourbase said:
V6 Supercharger is useless on our phones.
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Why is that?
thecrab93 said:
Hi,
I have pressed the thanks button but anyway, thanks! I read the post this morning and actually, im on MIUI 2.7.18 now, dont really like it but for the last month or so i havent found a rom, not even stock, that works properly, i usually use cm9 without any mods but it hasnt worked properly eiher, the thing is that it did before, well, anyway, im talking too much for what i want to say, just to say that i havent had time to flash back to cm9 but on miui V6 SuperCharger works like a charm! At least its much faster! Thanks!
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Yeah makes you wonder where was it this whole time
Nyssa1104 said:
You must have some small hands? As both my hands will cover the fone so make no difference to me...:cyclops:
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Hahaha. I meant with a one handed usage grip where you type with the thumb
trixnix said:
How can i change the DPI? sorry im noob.
- Tapatalked!
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If you're rooted, try Density Changer from the store.
Yandvoiris said:
stable ?
AOSP dont like my phone for some reason
allways find it freezing on me
worst adivce ever
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I've been using it since my sgs days. IMHO, it gives you boost. Some devs actually use the sqlite script which is also present in supercharger. Any rom can use the script. You have to run the script. However, if you have super su installed it may break its binary which could give you issue. But I think it can detect whether you have super su and it will abort the su binary installation. Believe me your phone will fly.
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Why is that?
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Supercharger plays around with minfree values and hence it's effective on phones with less RAM. GSII comes with 1GB which is more than enough for ICS or JB.
Nyssa1104 said:
You must have some small hands? As both my hands will cover the fone so make no difference to me...:cyclops:
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trixnix said:
How can i change the DPI? sorry im noob.
- Tapatalked!
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atulalvenkar said:
Supercharger plays around with minfree values and hence it's effective on phones with less RAM. GSII comes with 1GB which is more than enough for ICS or JB.
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It does more than just that, but regarding the RAM, you can't really have enough RAM. 2 GB would obviously be better than 1.
The other day I was playing Dungeon Defender Second Wave, and I got a call while I was playing, so I hung up and guess what? The game exited. My brothers S3 (2GB ram) can handle that no problem.
So I tried this with Thunderbolt script with LMK set to 60MB I think, and I was able to multitask the game and a phone call, while still on the same hardware.
Jeezuz! How can anyone understand what to do?
The OP of V6 Supercharger thread is just a fragmented mess off different things, why is it not just simple?
Usual XDA members, think everyone knows everything about phones or you're a lazy sod who can't be arsed to read.
Well I have tried to get it working and read the complicated mess and after I tried to install starter kit which aborted, so then tried running main script like OP said he did, through script manager, said busy box needed updating and took me to site, installed it, ran again, still problems with busy box???
Running NeatROM with latest dual boot siyah 4.xx
Sent from my Dual ROM - Dual Core - IP4s EATER!
bobdoblo said:
Jeezuz! How can anyone understand what to do?
The OP of V6 Supercharger thread is just a fragmented mess off different things, why is it not just simple?
Usual XDA members, think everyone knows everything about phones or you're a lazy sod who can't be arsed to read.
Well I have tried to get it working and read the complicated mess and after I tried to install starter kit which aborted, so then tried running main script like OP said he did, through script manager, said busy box needed updating and took me to site, installed it, ran again, still problems with busy box???
Running NeatROM with latest dual boot siyah 4.xx
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Download the supercharger starter kit then download script manager from play store. Open the script manager with su permission. Browse the folder supercharger kit from sdcard. The kit should be copied into the internal not to the external card. From the kit folder run the startmeup.sh with su permission. Then follow screen instruction. If your rom has super su icon, you don't have to install the su binary. However, if you mis this portion during installation the process abort its installation coz the script is auto detecting of the su binary. Cheers mate after this restart phone and it will fly.
Thanks, but after all that, its put me off even more!
Why can it not just be a simple apk or zip that automatically does all this messing about?
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Has anyone ordered, received, or owns one of these units? If so, would you let me know what your experience with it has been. http://www.amazon.com/CX-919-Androi...dapter/dp/B00D05XSMY/ref=cm_rdp_product.....I did a search here but do not find any post with this model. I have one on order and am excited to see it...BTW. If I have broken any rule by posting the site. I apologize. Just want to be clear which one I am talking about. Thanks
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Has anyone ordered, received, or owns one of these units? If so, would you let me know what your experience with it has been. http://www.amazon.com/CX-919-Androi...dapter/dp/B00D05XSMY/ref=cm_rdp_product.....I did a search here but do not find any post with this model. I have one on order and am excited to see it...BTW. If I have broken any rule by posting the site. I apologize. Just want to be clear which one I am talking about. Thanks
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I've ordered one of these
waiting.....
Great to hear
Ive been tracking it on some other forum's. So far its been mostly positive. Im hopeing it won't be to difficult to root. Looks like getting the drivers to load properly is the tough part. Will find out. That's for sure. Lol.
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Ive been tracking it on some other forum's. So far its been mostly positive. Im hopeing it won't be to difficult to root. Looks like getting the drivers to load properly is the tough part. Will find out. That's for sure. Lol.
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Mine is currently on it's way from Singapore, there are 4.1 and 4.2 finless roms available for it, and it is pre rooted but it seems it's not properly rooted because by default you don't get full root.
I ordered one for myself --> Finless ROM is available so far.
Delivery shoud be in 7-9 days.
Finless
bertl7 said:
I ordered one for myself --> Finless ROM is available so far.
Delivery shoud be in 7-9 days.
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Yep. Finless is the way to go. Read about some issue with root too. But I believe it will pan out by the time ours get here. Fingers Crossed. :good:
Delv.
pckarma112 said:
Yep. Finless is the way to go. Read about some issue with root too. But I believe it will pan out by the time ours get here. Fingers Crossed. :good:
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I ordered one for myself --> Finless ROM is available so far.
Delivery shoud be in 7-9 days.
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BTW. How are you getting yours in 7-9 days?
got mine 2 weeks ago. It doesn't come prerooted. I flashed Finless 1.4 (4.2.2) and it is working great and stable. The flashing process is quite easy and straight forward. One negative point is (but this is the case for all RK3188 sticks) that the official stable XBMC 12 doesn't work. You need to use XBMC 13 which currently is at Alpha V7 stage and often crashes. Ohterwise very happy with the device
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got mine 2 weeks ago. It doesn't come prerooted. I flashed Finless 1.4 (4.2.2) and it is working great and stable. The flashing process is quite easy and straight forward. One negative point is (but this is the case for all RK3188 sticks) that the official stable XBMC 12 doesn't work. You need to use XBMC 13 which currently is at Alpha V7 stage and often crashes. Ohterwise very happy with the device
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Thanks for the infrmation
i got mine today and it's an amazing experience
i didnj't know we have problems with the official XBMC, maybe you can try this modded version? http://www.xbmchub.com/blog/2013/05...le-release-of-the-xaf-custom-build-must-have/
Have a question for you guys as reading how you too flashed bobs JB 4.2 ROM. As you know there are choices for space of the apps. 2,4,6 gb. I first tried the 4gb. But when I did. The box on that choice went from green to dark blue. Everything else remained green. Tried to flash and it got a error message. So flashed and just left that line alone with the default 2gb. This time it flashed no problem. But now I'm stuck with 2gb. So Gona refresh. Is it normal for that box to turn blue when you make the choice? If anyone knows..please inform me. TY.
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Have a question for you guys as reading how you too flashed bobs JB 4.2 ROM. As you know there are choices for space of the apps. 2,4,6 gb. I first tried the 4gb. But when I did. The box on that choice went from green to dark blue. Everything else remained green. Tried to flash and it got a error message. So flashed and just left that line alone with the default 2gb. This time it flashed no problem. But now I'm stuck with 2gb. So Gona refresh. Is it normal for that box to turn blue when you make the choice? If anyone knows..please inform me. TY.
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I flashed mine with the default choice of 2GB, i think it's the perfect configuration so that i have enough room for my apps and ALSO enough room for my media files.
i can't answer your question here but i'm sure Finless BOB will answer your question on his own thread HERE
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I flashed mine with the default choice of 2GB, i think it's the perfect configuration so that i have enough room for my apps and ALSO enough room for my media files.
i can't answer your question here but i'm sure Finless BOB will answer your question on his own thread HERE
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Thanks. I already asked there. Just had not received any reply yet. Searched around to see if maybe someone else has had this issue. Cant find anything. But you raise a question. Why not store those files on the ext. SD card. Or am I missing something. Thats what I do on my tab. Is that not possible on this ROM?
Thanks
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I flashed mine with the default choice of 2GB, i think it's the perfect configuration so that i have enough room for my apps and ALSO enough room for my media files.
i can't answer your question here but i'm sure Finless BOB will answer your question on his own thread HERE
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Yes I had already asked there. But had not received any replies . Searched around to see if anyone else maybe had this issue. But cant find anything. With me. Problem is I could eat that 2gb up with a few games. But you raise another question. Why not use the ext. SD for media. ? Thats what I do with my tab. Or is that not possible with this ROM? Anyway thanks for reply. Edit. Just read on another forum. Bobs ROM allows writing to Ext SD..so yea. Guess you can store there.
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Yes I had already asked there. But had not received any replies . Searched around to see if anyone else maybe had this issue. But cant find anything. With me. Problem is I could eat that 2gb up with a few games. But you raise another question. Why not use the ext. SD for media. ? Thats what I do with my tab. Or is that not possible with this ROM? Anyway thanks for reply. Edit. Just read on another forum. Bobs ROM allows writing to Ext SD..so yea. Guess you can store there.
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AHH okayyyy, that's why then, for LARGE GAMES
if this is the case then you have to try DirectoryBind this app let's you move all the large data files of any game to the external sd card and fool the rom that these files are still on the internal memory. the app supports syncronisation of the files between the external and internal memory.
great tool, i use it and i love it.
but before you move the game data to the external sd card you have first to install and run everything on the internal.
anyway this is just a solution if you can't get the 6GB config.
why don't you flash the stock 4.1 rom, run it then flash Finless's ROM with the 6GB? i think this way you get the CX919 really FORMATTED
GOOD LUCK
So how do you guys like the CX-919?
After I have canceled my Ouya I am looking for alternatives
If you could share some information and experiences I would greatly appreciate it! :good:
Looking for stuff like boot time, lags in the OS, XBMC alpha, what setup are you using etc.
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AHH okayyyy, that's why then, for LARGE GAMES
if this is the case then you have to try DirectoryBind this app let's you move all the large data files of any game to the external sd card and fool the rom that these files are still on the internal memory. the app supports syncronisation of the files between the external and internal memory.
great tool, i use it and i love it.
but before you move the game data to the external sd card you have first to install and run everything on the internal.
anyway this is just a solution if you can't get the 6GB config.
why don't you flash the stock 4.1 rom, run it then flash Finless's ROM with the 6GB? i think this way you get the CX919 really FORMATTED
GOOD LUCK
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I finally got the 4gb . The directions tell you to reboot between wipe and flash. Ignored that. Did wipe. Chose 4gb. Color still changed from green to blue. But went with. Flash went ok. ROM is fine. Link2sd works. Might try directory bind if it does not cause issues with Link2sd. But DB sounds better for large games. Well time for some more testing. TY
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So how do you guys like the CX-919?
After I have canceled my Ouya I am looking for alternatives
If you could share some information and experiences I would greatly appreciate it! :good:
Looking for stuff like boot time, lags in the OS, XBMC alpha, what setup are you using etc.
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I can tell you a little. I did not play around with the stock ROM to much. But I did flash finless 4.2. Had a little trouble with getting drivers installed. Seems that is normal deal. But it worked out. As for device. Its fast! I have not had any lockups or reboots. Video from USB thumb drive and SD card play fine. DLNA works surprisingly well. On this ROM. Netflix is not working. Crackle is not working. Real bummer. Most apps install fine and work. Buy seems like any apps that would turn it into a true smart tv device wont work. I already have a smart tv with these apps. So, that does not bother me to much. But if your going to use it for turning a tv into a smart tv. Well, Forget it. I may try the 4.1 Finless ROM. Read where people were saying these apps work on it? Will see. Anyway this is a fast great device and am having fun with games...
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cx919 on stock vs Finless
I used it a bit with stock rom, now I am on Finless 1.4 (4.2.2) ..
- On stock my favorite Dice player didn't work (was showing "can't start video", even when u try to open it), some old Logitec USB camera was not detected by stick/skype, videos from external hdd plugged were playing ok.. Interesting that Antutu crashed during testing...
- Finless brought me really ugly splash screen, as well as old usb camera support in skype, which I tested and it worked pretty good during 45min conversation.. Dice player now works but in a funny way.. a bit slow.. (I saw decoding is done using software and didn't have time now to find option for hw decoding.. should be better).. It is nice that some crappy useless apps are gone, but on the other side developer added some "game mapper controler" and few other apps which are at least for me and for now useless (better would be to mention them in readme so user can download them)..This is about reboot app for example, which could be super usefull, except that it froze somehow my stick and I couldn't start it not even after hard reset.. Flash of Finless again boot it up again.. For SuperUser developer decided not to use the most popular and open source app, but at least in this rom there is root (Stock was pain in the ass to get the root, if u manage to get drivers work).. The biggest problems, however was very difficult mounting of external hdd and even usb. From USB I eventually was able to play videos, while HDD was "blinking" all the time, it even showed up in a list but when I tried to access it it was impossible.. I lost patience waiting, cause I know that on stock that was way much shorter then 3+ min I was waiting on Finless.. Beside this issues I noticed that sometimes mouse/pointer doesn't move and on stock that never happened.. Is that lockout or? This was really annoying, when u know it's quad core and on stock it worked good.. It happened that
All in all good work with some annoying issues which will hopefully be fixed with 1.5 .. Thanks to author.. Cheers
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got mine 2 weeks ago. It doesn't come prerooted. I flashed Finless 1.4 (4.2.2) and it is working great and stable. The flashing process is quite easy and straight forward. One negative point is (but this is the case for all RK3188 sticks) that the official stable XBMC 12 doesn't work. You need to use XBMC 13 which currently is at Alpha V7 stage and often crashes. Ohterwise very happy with the device
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Working great and stable means it doesn't load widgets and things after boot much slower then stock? Mounting external storage like usb or hdd works? Cause I couldn't make it mount other storages AT ALL... Plus it happen that randomly got super slow, that playing videos got a bit funny and sooo on.... Please write a bit more of ur experience.. How u r actually using this stick..? 10q
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Working great and stable means it doesn't load widgets and things after boot much slower then stock? Mounting external storage like usb or hdd works? Cause I couldn't make it mount other storages AT ALL... Plus it happen that randomly got super slow, that playing videos got a bit funny and sooo on.... Please write a bit more of ur experience.. How u r actually using this stick..? 10q
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Well, I can't tell much about widgets because I'm not using any. I installed Nova launcher since the beginning.
USB sticks definitely work on mine. I am using ES Explorer and the stick gets mounted under USB0 so I only need to browse there to access it. My stick is plugged in the USB slot of my tv. I was surprised to see that the power it gets from the USb slot is enough but it works fine and is convenient because the stick starts automatically whenever I switch on my tv and turns off when I turn off the tv.
Mostly I am using the stick for watching life tv from the net (my desktop contains browser links, no widgets) or YouTube for the kids, or XBMC or watching movies which are stored on my pc
Woke up this morning to my Galaxy Camera 2 claiming it was downloading a new software update (~130mb). Of course, there's no mention anywhere in the update process for what is included in this update, but I can definitely tell you that it's not Kitkat (sadly). Unfortunately, I didn't check version numbers prior to accepting the update (sorry), but here's the version numbers after the update:
Build Number:
JSS15J.GC200XXUCNK4
Kernel version:
3.0.31-2807772
[email protected] #1
Sat Nov 29 15:55:43 KST 2014
That's the same Build Number we've had since like April 2014, but the kernel definitely seems to have been updated. Maybe they finally fixed the loss of Google account settings issue??? I appreciate updates, but I really wish they would inform the customer better on what these updates fixed.
Ironically, for the first time in a long time, my Camera 2 had lost its Google Account settings when I turned it on this morning....haha.
Oh, I reside in Florida, USA. Not sure who else in the world is receiving the update, but according to SamMobile.com the Camera 2 update was hitting other locations around the globe starting 12/18/2014, but there's no mention of it hitting the USA at all.
Need to know if it's root able.
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Need to know if it's root able.
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As long as this fixes the problem of losing the Google account, I have no reason to root the camera. Plus, I still have this weird hope that Samsung will actually release a Kitkat update for it (haha), and with there basically being ZERO development for this device on XDA, I don't want to be stuck not able to update.
Well, it's been almost a week since this update and it's also been a week of heavy Camera 2 use with the holidays. I haven't lost Google settings even once.
Thus far my camera hasn't lost my Google accounts, and by now it surely would have happened
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As long as this fixes the problem of losing the Google account, I have no reason to root the camera. Plus, I still have this weird hope that Samsung will actually release a Kitkat update for it (haha), and with there basically being ZERO development for this device on XDA, I don't want to be stuck not able to update.
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Eh...
I didn't waste my time getting the Galaxy Camera 2, just got the One.
I understand your stress though.
Someone needs a swift kick in the butt so we can get development going for both devices.
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hmm am glad to see an uphdate still, though im really really hoping for lollipop which should allow RAW access for the camera.
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hmm am glad to see an uphdate still, though im really really hoping for lollipop which should allow RAW access for the camera.
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Assuming you do get it, could we transfer it over to the Galaxy Camera One, Wi-Fi Edition?
I don't like to be the rude one. But at this point, someone has to help root the Wi-Fi Only version, and come up with a Custom Recovery.
Not only this, but we need to see Devs, but we've got people sitting and pointing fingers instead.
I wanna see a ROM putting us all on a better version, or something more come to all the cameras.
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hmm, really wouldnt have thought so, its probably possible given the hardware similarities but i think that given the camera 1 and 2 have been such unpopular devices they havent warranted their own listings here i wouldnt hold me breath. the key to getting a ROM for a device is someone who is techy enough to do wanting to use one. i for one might like the camera but i would have absolutely no clue how to make a rom for it.
hmm surely there must be a dev out there who likes photos.
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hmm, really wouldnt have thought so, its probably possible given the hardware similarities but i think that given the camera 1 and 2 have been such unpopular devices they havent warranted their own listings here i wouldnt hold me breath. the key to getting a ROM for a device is someone who is techy enough to do wanting to use one. i for one might like the camera but i would have absolutely no clue how to make a rom for it.
hmm surely there must be a dev out there who likes photos.
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The Camera 2 has gotten support, but not what it needs.
And honestly, Developing ROMs isn't too difficult, I just don't have the time for it.
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The reason why you would want to root the camera is because you can instal Link2sd and Foldermount, with these two apps you can install theoretically 128G of apps
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The reason why you would want to root the camera is because you can instal Link2sd and Foldermount, with these two apps you can install theoretically 128G of apps
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Why would anyone want to put 128GB of apps on a camera? I mean, a tablet or phone, okay...but a camera? I just don't really see the practical purpose for that. The biggest storage hog on my tablet/phone is music and movies, and neither of those require the device to be rooted to store them on the external SD card.
Again, with the way Samsung is really clamping down on not allowing OTA's to be delivered to even just rooted devices, and with the basically non-existent development support for this device, I won't be rooting it until I'm 100% certain that there's no OTA update coming for it, and even then I would only root it if someone put out a reliable custom Kitkat or Lollipop ROM for it. Honestly, if Samsung won't update it, then I'm really not holding my breath that some 3rd-party dev ever will.
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The Camera 2 has gotten support, but not what it needs.
And honestly, Developing ROMs isn't too difficult, I just don't have the time for it.
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It would be a heckuva lot easier to port a Camera 2 ROM over to the Camera 1 (rather than develop a ROM from scratch for either camera model), but even that hasn't been done. I don't think there's ever going to be any original development on these devices (like a CM11 or CM12). Developing ROMs isn't terribly difficult, but it's not easy either, especially not on a device that is so driver dependent like these cameras are. Just about every Android device I've owned (phone or tablet) has problems with the camera not working in some way (if not completely) on any original development project. What good is a camera with the latest Android OS if it causes the camera function not to work or even not work reliably?
I think we need to face it, folks -- these cameras are pretty much as-is. At best we're highly dependent on whatever Samsung gives us.
Nope, I disagree. Rooting this camera is a damn good idea for so many reasons. Most tablet or phone dont have a miro HDMI, My camera, I can install apps without deleting and its not just a camera, its an android device by Samsung that comes with a micro hdmi and with a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard, well if you have ever thought about buying an android TV box, this is a better replacement, it performs much better than majority on the market.
And yes I agree that stock ROMs with stock drivers perform better but asop base ROM do perform much better in terms of speed in gaming and applications. What about a multi ROM solution to allow you multi-boot i.e. boot stock from internal nand and asop lollipop from from external SD, now that would be a sweet setup!
hmmm i get your point but for me, the camera is a camera. ive got a tablet for tablety things, a phone for phoney things so what i want is camera focused and to have dropbox autoupload everything nicely.
thats the anly reasen im so fussed that i want it to get lollipop as it should then get RAW capabilities. while i realise it may not happen i will vote with my wallet. this is my first real samsung device (galaxy nexus doesnt count) and while i love oled screens and removable batteries if samsung abandon the camera, well i will abandon them. its really that simple, if they wont support devices going forward then i wont buy any other android devices from them.
if only google put out a Nexus Camera.
NK4 and rooting
I just finished the upgrade to NK4. I was trying to keep root through survival mode in Superuser Pro, but I ended up having to reroot. The upgrade via kies took about a hour. I attempted to re-establish root via Superuser but was unable to do so. I ODIN'ed the CF-autoroot onto the camera and reinstalled Superuser. I now have a NK4 rooted camera.
Since the discussion seems to have shifted to the rational for rooting, here's my take. First, it should be noted that root <> custom recovery. We do not have custom recovery for the GalCam2, so installing alternative ROM's, if available is not an option. So, why root? For me, it's Xposed modules; specifically pie controls(mmmm, pie). I've had several digital cameras over the years. In fact, when I bought this camera, I had a year old samsung camera. Why this camera? It's android, so I can to many things that would be not be possible on other cameras in this price range, like say using different camera apps.
So, if you're rooted on NC2, fear not. The water's OK over here on NK4.
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Nope, I disagree. Rooting this camera is a damn good idea for so many reasons. Most tablet or phone dont have a miro HDMI, My camera, I can install apps without deleting and its not just a camera, its an android device by Samsung that comes with a micro hdmi and with a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard, well if you have ever thought about buying an android TV box, this is a better replacement, it performs much better than majority on the market.
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Well, of course you can disagree, but I still think you're stretching your camera well beyond practical purpose. Cameras are quirky enough on their own (especially ones with Android OS) -- it's probably not a good idea to use it so much for non-photography purposes because when you wear it out from overuse with all these extraneous functions you're not just going to be out an Android TV device -- you're going to be out a $400 camera. Android TV boxes can be had for as cheap as US$25 and are practically disposable at that price.
Incidentally, I have a HDMI dongle (that uses a standard, readily available fullsize HDMI plug/cable) that I use on my Galaxy Note 2 phone and/or my Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 tablet all the time (typically when on vacation watching movies on the hotel TV). Not to mention $30 Chromecast can be used wirelessly. All of this without overusing my $400 camera, so that the next time I want to use my camera it won't have a low battery, scratched up screen, or otherwise screwed up or acting quirky from rooting it.
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And yes I agree that stock ROMs with stock drivers perform better but asop base ROM do perform much better in terms of speed in gaming and applications. What about a multi ROM solution to allow you multi-boot i.e. boot stock from internal nand and asop lollipop from from external SD, now that would be a sweet setup!
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Again, it's all about what's your priority purpose for this device. I bought this device to use as a internet connected camera -- I didn't buy it for playing games or running non-photography related apps. I don't want to have choose which OS I'm booting to....I just want to turn the camera on, take some pics, and be able to immediately upload them somewhere. As long as that's working, then in my world there's really no need to actively look for alternative solutions that are just going to potentially mess that simple process up.
Again, there's a reason why I'm here on XDA -- I've rooted (and usually ROMed) every other Android device I've owned. I'm even currently running CM11 on my Galaxy Note 2 at the expense of losing some of the S-pen features because it runs so much faster that it's like I got a completely new phone. But I just don't see any reason for rooting (or especially ROMing) the Camera 2.
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Since the discussion seems to have shifted to the rational for rooting, here's my take. First, it should be noted that root <> custom recovery. We do not have custom recovery for the GalCam2, so installing alternative ROM's, if available is not an option. So, why root? For me, it's Xposed modules; specifically pie controls(mmmm, pie). I've had several digital cameras over the years. In fact, when I bought this camera, I had a year old samsung camera. Why this camera? It's android, so I can to many things that would be not be possible on other cameras in this price range, like say using different camera apps.
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That's actually very good to know for future reference that NK4 is rootable. That's likely the last update we'll see for this camera knowing Samsung.
I actually don't always use a custom recovery on my Samsung devices. Since most root methods, ROMs, and even the recoveries themselves are flashed via Odin, there's really not a pressing need for a custom recovery. I've even encountered a lot of quirkiness with most custom recoveries (Philz, CWM, TWRP) when it comes to Nandroid backups (especially reliable restores), so I never rely on them and instead just reflash the ROM, allow Google to restore system data, and then restore personal apps/data with TitaniumBackup. Plus, even if you're rooted, as long as you have the stock recovery you can USUALLY take any OTA updates. I emphasize USUALLY because my Note 10.1 2014 Ed tablet is rooted but running stock recovery and the latest bug-fix update will not flash because they claim my tablet has been modified.
I guess I've never felt the need for pie controls because I haven't used the stock launcher on any Android device I've ever owned. The Camera 2 camera app interface is already pretty sweet with the on-screen dial menus. Like I said above, I'm not just globally adverse to rooting (far from it), but I just have yet to find any reason to root this camera, especially now that the latest update seems to have corrected the stupid vanishing Google Account settings issue.
Now, if someone ever comes up with a fully functioning Lollipop ROM for this camera, you'll quickly see me singing a different tune, but until then....
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Well, of course you can disagree, but I still think you're stretching your camera well beyond practical purpose. Cameras are quirky enough on their own (especially ones with Android OS) -- it's probably not a good idea to use it so much for non-photography purposes because when you wear it out from overuse with all these extraneous functions you're not just going to be out an Android TV device -- you're going to be out a $400 camera. Android TV boxes can be had for as cheap as US$25 and are practically disposable at that price.
Incidentally, I have a HDMI dongle (that uses a standard, readily available fullsize HDMI plug/cable) that I use on my Galaxy Note 2 phone and/or my Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 tablet all the time (typically when on vacation watching movies on the hotel TV). Not to mention $30 Chromecast can be used wirelessly. All of this without overusing my $400 camera, so that the next time I want to use my camera it won't have a low battery, scratched up screen, or otherwise screwed up or acting quirky from rooting it.
Again, it's all about what's your priority purpose for this device. I bought this device to use as a internet connected camera -- I didn't buy it for playing games or running non-photography related apps. I don't want to have choose which OS I'm booting to....I just want to turn the camera on, take some pics, and be able to immediately upload them somewhere. As long as that's working, then in my world there's really no need to actively look for alternative solutions that are just going to potentially mess that simple process up.
Again, there's a reason why I'm here on XDA -- I've rooted (and usually ROMed) every other Android device I've owned. I'm even currently running CM11 on my Galaxy Note 2 at the expense of losing some of the S-pen features because it runs so much faster that it's like I got a completely new phone. But I just don't see any reason for rooting (or especially ROMing) the Camera 2.
That's actually very good to know for future reference that NK4 is rootable. That's likely the last update we'll see for this camera knowing Samsung.
I actually don't always use a custom recovery on my Samsung devices. Since most root methods, ROMs, and even the recoveries themselves are flashed via Odin, there's really not a pressing need for a custom recovery. I've even encountered a lot of quirkiness with most custom recoveries (Philz, CWM, TWRP) when it comes to Nandroid backups (especially reliable restores), so I never rely on them and instead just reflash the ROM, allow Google to restore system data, and then restore personal apps/data with TitaniumBackup. Plus, even if you're rooted, as long as you have the stock recovery you can USUALLY take any OTA updates. I emphasize USUALLY because my Note 10.1 2014 Ed tablet is rooted but running stock recovery and the latest bug-fix update will not flash because they claim my tablet has been modified.
I guess I've never felt the need for pie controls because I haven't used the stock launcher on any Android device I've ever owned. The Camera 2 camera app interface is already pretty sweet with the on-screen dial menus. Like I said above, I'm not just globally adverse to rooting (far from it), but I just have yet to find any reason to root this camera, especially now that the latest update seems to have corrected the stupid vanishing Google Account settings issue.
Now, if someone ever comes up with a fully functioning Lollipop ROM for this camera, you'll quickly see me singing a different tune, but until then....
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Stretching beyond practice purpose is what makes android, android. Samsung makes good hardware, this camera will never fail from overuse and $25.00 android boxes perform like $25.00 android boxes.
I also do not use the stock launcher on any of my Samsung devices. I use lightning launcher on the camera(as well as my notes). The reason I like pie controls is that you gain extra screen space when you're using the launcher(no nav bar). So far, that's my only use of root, that could change in time; but not having custom recovery makes me very cautious in installing addition items.
cantenna said:
Stretching beyond practice purpose is what makes android, android. Samsung makes good hardware, this camera will never fail from overuse and $25.00 android boxes perform like $25.00 android boxes.
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If you think a multi element autofocus mechanical extending zoom lens and an electronic shutter are never going to fail, then you better start preparing yourself for disappointment in about 2 years. LOL.
My three $25 AndroidTV boxes have been working great for years, running Netflix and Amazon Prime video since day one that I bought them. They're also running Kitkat even though they started out on Gingerbread.
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I also do not use the stock launcher on any of my Samsung devices. I use lightning launcher on the camera(as well as my notes). The reason I like pie controls is that you gain extra screen space when you're using the launcher(no nav bar). So far, that's my only use of root, that could change in time; but not having custom recovery makes me very cautious in installing addition items.
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I'm pretty sure that all of my Samsung devices have been rooted and ROMed using Odin. My first Android device was a HTC EVO 4G, which solely used custom recoveries (unless you just like going back to the dark years of ADB), so the first couple of times I asked devs for a flashable zip, I was all but excommunicated from the XDA forum for such blasphemy. Everyone here seems to do just about everything via Odin, so I don't really sweat not having a custom recovery. Most things that can go wrong (bootloops, soft-bricks, etc.) when mucking around flashing devices are solved via Odin anyway.
just got my Phab 2 from lenovo today. trying various methods and will report if anything works.
kingoroot - no
Well just made it through my first day of using the phab 2.
Some good, some bad.
Battery life is not what I expected. 100% to 50% from 10am to 8pm. Moderate usage, Waze navigation for about 10 minutes. I came from a Huawei mate 2, so my standards are pretty high.
Some glitches setting up Bluetooth with Microsoft sync. Would not reconnect after initial setup without turning car off. Although, I will note that sync has had its own issues.
No root means no app settings, everything is too big.
The stock launcher is outrageously boring and not customizable. I could not find any real settings to adjust icon size, or even to change icons.
Now for the good:
Overall Android build is very stable and quick, no hangups with many apps running.
Display is very crisp for being a low-end model, and includes settings to adjust tone and color intensity.
Very little bloatware.
Camera is actually pretty good. Not perfect, but ok for 200$.
Plenty of good comments about 6.0, as I came from 4.3, but I'll spare the entire Android review.
But, this is what makes me never want to buy a Lenovo phone again. I called lenovo to get some basic specs on this phone that were not verified online. I went through 10 minutes of automated dialog and 5 different phone numbers. No one knew who to talk to about this phone. They're so focused on the big customers that they forgot to provide any support for what may be their biggest seller? On top of that, the guy I finally got in contact with at technical support was baffled that I would call about something other than a desktop or laptop, and did not have the information about this device on hand. This isn't a problem, as I got what I needed, but it almost seemed like no one was aware that this device was even available yet. Nothing in their support site references it, no real technical detail available, etc.
Anyways, I digress. There aren't many other 6.4inch phones available, so I can't complain too much. Overall, Im enjoying the experience. Plus, it gets attention.
Where did you get this... I've been looking to get one but haven't found a source...I'm assuming you're saying battery life is weaker than on the HAM2? Thanks again
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Where did you get this... I've been looking to get one but haven't found a source...I'm assuming you're saying battery life is weaker than on the HAM2? Thanks again
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Directly from lenovo. Yes, but the ham2 is pretty much the top tier in terms of battery life.
After a few days with it, I can go all day with Bluetooth Pandora, 2+hours straight of screen on time, 30 mins of Waze and have 40% left. I'd say it's doing pretty good for a standard phone. A few issues I've had are, the stock alarm app notification gets stuck and cannot be dismissed on occasion. A restart fixes this. Bluetooth AND Microsoft Sync have to be reset when a failed connection happens (this also occurred on my ham2, but only once every 2 months. This is once a day.) There are always 2 network icons in the notification bar for some reason.
On the up side, the camera has proven to be excellent in standard lighting. Pictures take a while to 'click.'
Touch response is very clean, will say I'm impressed with either the phones accuracy or androids ability to detect where a touch was meant.
My biggest pet peeve is also one of my favorite features. The navigation buttons are so dim that you can't see them in the daytime, but they're also so close together for such a large phone. But, this gives you plenty of room to grasp the phone without exiting an app by mistake, or bringing up a menu midst message.
Anyhow, I'll gladly answer any questions anyone has.
Thanks for the info... Lenovo doesn't have a place to order it yet for the U.S., at least that I can find.
Here ya go:
http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/smartphones/phab-series/?menu-id=phab_series
I'm expecting mine today/Monday. Can't wait to get back into a proper-sized large phone. I've missed them since I sold my Sony Z Ultras...
Yeah I saw them on sale now, thanks. Can someone who has one please post a full Antutu benchmark score with 3D? The reports I've seen on the MTK8735 suggest a benchmark of around 31000, which isn't terribly impressive, but I'd like to see it on this device specifically. Thanks!
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Yeah I saw them on sale now, thanks. Can someone who has one please post a full Antutu benchmark score with 3D? The reports I've seen on the MTK8735 suggest a benchmark of around 31000, which isn't terribly impressive, but I'd like to see it on this device specifically. Thanks!
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Thanks much.
alaska100 said:
just got my Phab 2 from lenovo today. trying various methods and will report if anything works.
kingoroot - no
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Any luck with rooting your phab2? I cannot find any method.
Is there any method to root lenovo phab 2?
How are the AR features? Any of them useful?
this version does not have AR features. You're looking for the Plus/Pro or w/e.
We're going to need to get a read back of the ROM from SP Flash tool to get root I think. What we really need is a TWRP build. I've tried quite a few variations for our chipset but haven't found one that even remotely boots yet.
hopefully we some others engage. i've got stuff I need to do with this phone, a few of which require root access of some kind.
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We're going to need to get a read back of the ROM from SP Flash tool to get root I think. What we really need is a TWRP build. I've tried quite a few variations for our chipset but haven't found one that even remotely boots yet.
hopefully we some others engage. i've got stuff I need to do with this phone, a few of which require root access of some kind.
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I hope you find a way to root phab 2. Why would they lock down the fastboot? Isn't the android open source? Slowly becoming like iOS.
fast boot isn't locked down, nor is the boot loader (once you unlock it). The problem is none of the MTK tools that I have are working like they are supposed to.
I've started a DEV thread with the stock images attached. Perhaps someone else will have better luck
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fast boot isn't locked down, nor is the boot loader (once you unlock it). The problem is none of the MTK tools that I have are working like they are supposed to.
I've started a DEV thread with the stock images attached. Perhaps someone else will have better luck
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My device is from Philippines. I unlocked the bootloader, but from recovery I cannot access bootloader. Device would not let me choose bootloader even though has the option, and from fastboot reboot, the device would not reboot.
the boot loader IS fast boot. Lenovo devices are notorious for allowing you one fast boot command per boot into the loader.
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the boot loader IS fast boot. Lenovo devices are notorious for allowing you one fast boot command per boot into the loader.
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what do you mean by one fast boot command per boot into the loader?
You can only issue a single fastboot command before having to reboot back into the boot loader to issue another.
HI all.
I'm a new Samsung Galaxy Note 4 owner! Recently upgraded from a Note 3. Phones are years old but are decently priced and still good phones when you're not looking for something too fancy.
Honestly, the Note 3 was the best phone I've ever had and was looking forward to a Note 4 upgrade (was looking forward to the fingerprint scanner, even if not the best, and to the metal edges)
Now, I'd just like to ask for a few pointers on this device. Any custom ROM suggestions? Anything I should know about?
I am doing my fair share of research, I've been reading a lot of posts regarding this device, posts that are months old, posts that are years old and I've gotten myself a general idea of what to expect.
But I think even with all this reading, I probably won't be able to compare what I learn from these posts to someone that has owned a Note 4 for months, possibly years! Which is why I'm posting this thread, to ask those who have had this device for a longer time and will probably continue to use it for a longer time since this phone is amazing!
I just want to ask you Note 4 owners, if you bought a brand new Note 4, what set-up will you prefer? Custom ROM? Stock ROM? Any kernels you would flash?
I know the best ROM will always be stock ROM, but is there any worth-while N7 ports for the Note 4? I'm a big fan of the off-screen memo, the smart screen capture (scroll and screen-recording that records gifs) and also enjoy tweaking the kernel (overclock) for smoother game performance. I've also read that the most common problem with ports is the fingerprint scanner. I'll probably end up doing the work-around since no custom ROM has gotten this fixed (from what I read it's almost impossible without leaving a lot of the stock ROM's assets which defeat the point of a custom ROM).
Currently, I am downloading stock EQI2 6.0.1 which is the latest firmware for the N910T variant. I know that the T-Mobile variant has it's own forum but I usually see that the "Samsung Galaxy Note 4" thread is the most active and sometimes includes things for the T-Mobile variant (was the same case with the Note 3, the T-Mobile forum was dead and the international forum was alive and well)
It's running 5.0.1 software right now, hopefully 6.0.1 is better.
Thank you for your time!
I kindly invite you to try the unified trlte build linked in the [ROM] [UNOFFICIAL] [7.1.2] LineageOS 14.1 [SM-N910F/G/P/R4/T/T3/V/W8] thread.
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I kindly invite you to try the unified trlte build linked in the [ROM] [UNOFFICIAL] [7.1.2] LineageOS 14.1 [SM-N910F/G/P/R4/T/T3/V/W8] thread.
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Thanks for your input, I am currently trying out a Note 7 ROM port, but if it doesn't work out I will try it out
Personally, I prefer to run the stock OS that comes pre-installed on my device and update the OS to the latest version provided by the manufacturer. As I know for a fact that Custom 3rd Party OSs do not have the best post imaging software. Which hinders the performance of the camera sensor on your device.
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Personally, I prefer to run the stock OS that comes pre-installed on my device and update the OS to the latest version provided by the manufacturer. As I know for a fact that Custom 3rd Party OSs do not have the best post imaging software. Which hinders the performance of the camera sensor on your device.
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Been snooping around and messing with a couple of custom ROM's either with Note 7/8 features and S7 Edge/S8.
I really like the look overall to the stock Note 4 UI, but I seem to have a very bad luck with random reboots and some features missing (fingerprint) or not working (night clock).
I was really afraid my phone was doomed with the eMMC failure I keep reading about that plagued the Note 4, but I don't have any problems running stock.
Yup, I guess my motto came true. "The best ROM is always STOCK ROM", even if it looks a bit out-dated.
I'm currently running stock and a custom kernel I found for stock MM. I'm pleased with the results so far, just kind of wish I could boot straight in to camera with double HOME press
Best advice I can give you , owning the phone for 2,5 years, is to never use quick charge and never update the phone or flash custom roms while the phone is being charged.
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Best advice I can give you , owning the phone for 2,5 years, is to never use quick charge and never update the phone or flash custom roms while the phone is being charged.
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That's interesting, the first time I've ever read not to use quick charge. What particular reason do you have to suggest this?
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That's interesting, the first time I've ever read not to use quick charge. What particular reason do you have to suggest this?
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I am amazed you are not aware of the motherboard brick problem of the note 4 !
Do a quick search and read about the motherboard Emmc problem on a lot of Note 4s.
Cheers!
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I was really afraid my phone was doomed with the eMMC failure I keep reading about that plagued the Note 4, but I don't have any problems running stock.
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I am amazed you are not aware of the motherboard brick problem of the note 4 !
Do a quick search and read about the motherboard Emmc problem on a lot of Note 4s.
Cheers!
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I did read about it, I just wasn't sure what was the root cause for it. So I guess fast charge is the culprit? Every place I read this people seemed to blame an update either from KK to LL, or from LL to MM. Wow... I gotta think about this one. One of the reasons I love this phone over my Note 3 is because of the quick charge. Man :/
Gotta think about trading that feature in for... you know... a FUNCTIONAL PHONE :laugh:
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I did read about it, I just wasn't sure what was the root cause for it. So I guess fast charge is the culprit? Every place I read this people seemed to blame an update either from KK to LL, or from LL to MM. Wow... I gotta think about this one. One of the reasons I love this phone over my Note 4 is because of the quick charge. Man :/
Gotta think about trading that feature in for... you know... a FUNCTIONAL PHONE :laugh:
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IMO the culprit was a heavy update(eg. from lollipop to Marshmallow) being installed , while the phone was pluged in being quickcharged.
This pushed the temperatures to exceed the max threshold of a bad emmc solder on the motherboard on some specific batches of the note 4.
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IMO the culprit was a heavy update(eg. from lollipop to Marshmallow) being installed , while the phone was pluged in being quickcharged.
This pushed the temperatures to exceed the max threshold of a bad emmc solder on the motherboard on some specific batches of the note 4.
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So you think regular quick charge should be fine? The phone doesn't heat up with regular quick charge, so I really hope it's safe. I know that just to be safe, I shouldn't use quick charge. But I guess I'll roll the dice.
I updated from LL to MM via Odin, so it wasn't quick charging :victory:
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So you think regular quick charge should be fine? The phone doesn't heat up with regular quick charge, so I really hope it's safe. I know that just to be safe, I shouldn't use quick charge. But I guess I'll roll the dice.
I updated from LL to MM via Odin, so it wasn't quick charging :victory:
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In my case , my phone gets really warm while being quickcharged even if I am not using it at all.
I live in a warm place though!
If you want to use quickcharge , I suggest you go ahead and use it but without using the phone during the charge.
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In my case , my phone gets really warm while being quickcharged even if I am not using it at all.
I live in a warm place though!
If you want to use quickcharge , I suggest you go ahead and use it but without using the phone during the charge.
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Yeah, I'll take my precautions. Thank you for your input
I have an exynos version so can't tell you much about the snapdragon versions (also never heard of emmc problems on exynos devices, the only problem I have is IR blaster stopped working some update ago and never worked again since), but here's little general advice :
Stock ROM is perfectly reliable and very smooth with little customization :
I recommend a package disabler app like EZ disabler to get rid of bloat. I disable anything that doesn't have a clear use for me . If something breaks functionality I enable it back.
If you don't want to root you can use adhel to block ads in very efficient way .
If you do want to root I recommend magisk . It's the best way to do it because if anything goes wrong you can just uninstall it and everything is fine again , it doesn't affect system partition.
Also system less xposed works great if you use the proper version . I love youtube background mod.
In my experience you should never use apps that claim to save battery like amplify/greenify etc . (In some cases they drain the battery even faster with their continuous background services) The better way to save power is to not install power hungry apps in the first place or disable them with EZ disabler . Also disable animations and just disable functions when you don't use them : Sync/Location /Bluetooth etc .
Last but not least : download and use Samsung game booster : it's amazing for our old gpus : you can lower resolution/frame rates to make games more playable and battery last longer .
These were my quick tips . Hope you enjoy your new phone !
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I have an exynos version so can't tell you much about the snapdragon versions (also never heard of emmc problems on exynos devices, the only problem I have is IR blaster stopped working some update ago and never worked again since), but here's little general advice :
Stock ROM is perfectly reliable and very smooth with little customization :
I recommend a package disabler app like EZ disabler to get rid of bloat. I disable anything that doesn't have a clear use for me . If something breaks functionality I enable it back.
If you don't want to root you can use adhel to block ads in very efficient way .
If you do want to root I recommend magisk . It's the best way to do it because if anything goes wrong you can just uninstall it and everything is fine again , it doesn't affect system partition.
Also system less xposed works great if you use the proper version . I love youtube background mod.
In my experience you should never use apps that claim to save battery like amplify/greenify etc . (In some cases they drain the battery even faster with their continuous background services) The better way to save power is to not install power hungry apps in the first place or disable them with EZ disabler . Also disable animations and just disable functions when you don't use them : Sync/Location /Bluetooth etc .
Last but not least : download and use Samsung game booster : it's amazing for our old gpus : you can lower resolution/frame rates to make games more playable and battery last longer .
These were my quick tips . Hope you enjoy your new phone !
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The only small problem I have with stock is that it looks outdated. I know visuals are the least you should look for in a ROM, should be more worried about stability and battery life, but I simply can't deny that visually, stock TW UI bothers me.
But I guess I'll have to get used to it anyway since all the ROMs I've tried have issues here and there, but most importantly I get random shut downs and reboots with most custom ROMs and I lose the fingerprint scanner.
As for games, I heavily play a game called Shadowgun Deadzone. It's not that graphics heavy, but I need it to run smooth. I haven't tried Samsung's game booster, I've only messed around with custom kernels and changing the CPU governor, overclocking, etc... and it runs fine for a little while, but starts chugging after a few minutes in.
If the game booster can fix this, heck I can stick with stock ROM without any problems.
When you say it looks outdated
Are you talking about the launcher?
If so why not try the many other launchers out there? Like nova launcher..
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When you say it looks outdated
Are you talking about the launcher?
If so why not try the many other launchers out there? Like nova launcher..
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A launcher can only do so much. I'm referring to mostly on things like the notification drawer, the settings and stuff like that.