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I sold my Vibrant to my brother living overseas and since I cannot live without my phone, I immediately started eyeing the ones on Craigslist. This one guy was selling a Vibrant, in the original box, with the original charger, a car charger, couple screen protectors, a rubber case and a Motorola bluetooth ear piece, all for $150. The phone looks brand new except a tiny little scratch at the top. After messaging back and forth all day, I decided to drive to his house, which looked like an abandoned place. His room was in the attic where there was no furniture - just a laptop on a coffee stand. I asked if he ever rooted or put custom ROM and he looked at me like I was from outer space. The phone still had Eclair! So I went ahead and got the phone. Now, it's been 20 hours and it's been working great. I already put Trigger's ROM and everything works as expected.
Can this phone be stolen and should I expect local Police of FBI at my door when I go home tonight? Anyway to know if the IMEI is reported as stolen/lost?
Please advise.
Well, I'd say the likelihood of it being stolen from someone is lower based on the fact that he has the original box. I guess if you're the paranoid type you could match the IMEI on the box with your phone.
I wouldnt worry nout it. Its yours now.
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Well, I'd say the likelihood of it being stolen from someone is lower based on the fact that he has the original box. I guess if you're the paranoid type you could match the IMEI on the box with your phone.
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OMG! The IMEI's do not match. I'm serious. Does it mean it's stolen?? I am pissed now. Stupid me, why didn't I check it while I was there!?!
If someone is selling something that far below market value you can be pretty sure they are not on the up and up. I would have passed on the deal.
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It doesn't matter, you didn't steal it.
No, but he may have purchased stolen merchandise.
Not good if it is stolen. Cell provider may find out and get the PD involved. Good thing you know where he lives.
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if the "original phone owner if there is any" finds that u have his or her stolen phone and finds you and if you paid the dude who sold u the phone in check then you will be find but if you gave him cash then you might might get in little trouble... this is the worst case senerio
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if the "original phone owner if there is any" finds that u have his or her stolen phone and finds you and if you paid the dude who sold u the phone in check then you will be find but if you gave him cash then you might might get in little trouble... this is the worst case senerio
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Why do you think I'd get in trouble for paying in cash? The dude's ad is still on CL with his cell phone #. I know his address since I drove there. Can I report to local police before I get in trouble?
OMG you wont get in trouble!
OMG...yes there is a law for it..its called receiving stolen property...regardless if you knew the property was stolen or not.
Don't worry about it. You got an awesome deal.
No one is coming for you.
I got my phone stolen, asked t mobile if anything can be done by getting the IMEI, but they said nothing can be done.
Dude, you are flipping out over a mere suspition. There is nothing of evidence to support the stolen phone theory.
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FBI, CIA, CBP, NCIS,ATF and US Marshalls have been notified as well as interpol. You are in deep my friend, confess now and you can get a reduced sentence.....
im messing with ya, you could get in trouble but not that bad. If you are afraid it may be stolen then contact p.d. Not sure what good it would do since the dudes house was probably an abandoned house he found to make the deal. So more than likely the cops will take the phone as evidence and you will be out what you paid. The guy made some cash dumped the phone he used to communicate with you and on to next guy.
Sorry
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Stop being scared b4 i really get the cops on u lol
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Dude u didn't know it was stolen you are not gunna go to jail. If your on tmo they wont care dont believe me lose ur phone but record your imei tell them to track it they say they won't do that. Just be more careful next time
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You know, if I sold you my vibrant, the imei on the box wouldn't match either. I've had three replacements.
Maybe you should stop freaking out and start enjoying your good deal. Is it likely someone stole a box, cases and accessories? Not very.
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^ Same here, i've had plenty of replacements and have different IMEI as well.
Don't freak out, you bought it, and the chance of the original owner coming to your house is as much as a lightning striking you, then turning right and blowing your phone up.
Just enjoy the phone ;D
Not necessarily stolen especially if he had those accessories with him. Next time you buy anything meet in a public place though. Coming over to a possibly abandoned house is a good way to get robbed.
Lmao the most that can happen is it being confiscated,given the acc. it came with and the story
So I just sold my girlfriends fascinate on ebay. I shipped a few days ago and just got this message from the buyer.
Thanks for the fast shipping. damn it sucks to say, but i went to have the phone activated at the verizon store. they not only said it can't be activated because its on the reported stolen list, but they confiscated it. i didnt know it couldnt be used, it should of never been listed. anyways, if you didnt know this either, no hard feelings. i wont contact ebay or paypal if you refund my payment right away so i can buy another one.
I have a good feeling that this a POS trying to scam me. I'm looking for some advice on how to respond to this issue. By the way the phone is not stolen in any way shape or form. I know this is kind of off topic but I figured this would be a good place to receive some advice.
Uh yea. I'd say it's a scam
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So I just sold my girlfriends fascinate on ebay. I shipped a few days ago and just got this message from the buyer.
Thanks for the fast shipping. damn it sucks to say, but i went to have the phone activated at the verizon store. they not only said it can't be activated because its on the reported stolen list, but they confiscated it. i didnt know it couldnt be used, it should of never been listed. anyways, if you didnt know this either, no hard feelings. i wont contact ebay or paypal if you refund my payment right away so i can buy another one.
I have a good feeling that this a POS trying to scam me. I'm looking for some advice on how to respond to this issue. By the way the phone is not stolen in any way shape or form. I know this is kind of off topic but I figured this would be a good place to receive some advice.
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Did he verify the ESN prior to buying the phone? If not, its his fault and there is nothing he can do. Explain the situation to ebay and open a dispute.
He did not verify esn. I just thought it was strange that he would be trying to pull this when he has a 98.6% positive feedback rating with over 2000 transactions.
It will be easier if you have the device ID. Contact Verizon and get paper work from them showing the device has a clean ESN. This will only work if you are either still under contract or left verizon when your contract was finished. If you got out of the contract via the fee changes the esn will be bad.
Assuming the Esn is clean once you have the paperwork that says its clean you just tell the buyer that you have evidence of a clean ESN and that you will fight any dispute. PayPal and EBay see these shady people alot and know what to look for.
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Yeah man I wouldn't trust this.
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For sure contact Verizon if you can and verify your ESN is good. I have a feeling that this is indeed a scam.
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Think k40 has a point. On what terms did you leave verizon, or at least deactivate the phone?
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Think k40 has a point. On what terms did you leave verizon, or at least deactivate the phone?
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She used an upgrade. I should be able to get all the right info still. I sent the guy a few messages. I'm just waiting on a response before I call Verizon.
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She used an upgrade. I should be able to get all the right info still. I sent the guy a few messages. I'm just waiting on a response before I call Verizon.
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The only way he is Intitled to a refund is if he pays shipping and returns it to you
Even if he files a complaint he will have to show proof that he sent it back
So I would not worry to much about it
If he does send one back make Damn sure it is yours and has your esn
eBay has policies in place to protect you and the never do anything out of eBay
And you may be wise to report it to them right away and let them know what is going on This Kind of Deal is a No No you were asked outside of eBay
Sounds like a scam to me. Good luck.
I was just talking to a buddy of mine that works at verizon and he told me they would only inform you if its on the lost or stolen list, they will not confiscate it sounds like a big scam
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Does smell like a scam close to the sme thing happend to me with a video card
Seen plenty of phones come in with bad esn's. Not once did we or were we authorized to take possesion of the device
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Also, everyone be careful even letting a potential customer check the esn. When I was trying to sell my blackberry many scammers tried to get at mine. Don't give it to them! They can do a fake activation put insurance on it and claim it lost/stolen.. at that point your esn goes bad and they receive a phone from insurion in the mail.. One scammer even tried to get me to take a photo of the back of the phone with the battery out (where the esn is written) under the pretense he was looking to see if it worked on gsm.. Duh its a world phone... Good luck man. From my experience selling on ebay is nothing but headache.
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Make sure you move your money out from paypal and un-link any connected bank accounts. The guy will just call his CC company and dispute the charge. Paypal will take your money and you'll be SOL no matter how much evidence your have. Paypal's "protection" is **** and they'll screw you over in a heartbeat.
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Make sure you move your money out from paypal and un-link any connected bank accounts. The guy will just call his CC company and dispute the charge. Paypal will take your money and you'll be SOL no matter how much evidence your have. Paypal's "protection" is **** and they'll screw you over in a heartbeat.
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That's a scam, no doubt about it. Don't let the feedback rating fool you, because it could be a legitimate account that got compromised. The only way they could win a dispute with eBay is if they can provide proof that the ESN was bad. If you know the ESN was good, then there's no way they could possibly provide that proof.
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They can do a fake activation put insurance on it and claim it lost/stolen.. at that point your esn goes bad and they receive a phone from insurion in the mail..
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Im not so sure about that, I just tryed to have them put insurance on a fascinate I bought used and they said you can only put it on if you bought it from them.
Definite scam. As stated before, they won't confiscate the device. It's not their right to.
Unlike with media, you actually own a phone, rather than license it (which is why software, music, and videos can actually be confiscated). For them to take the phone from the buyer would be theft.
Call Verizon, have them pull the ESN from the old phone for you and have them verify that it is good. You should also be able to have them verify if it's been activated or not.
The way the systems work these days, I'm surprised someone would actually try and pull a scam like this one. It's way too easy to verify that they're full of it.
Hi everyone,
I'd like to share a word of caution so hopefully you don't have to go through what I have.
About a month and a half ago my phone was having touchscreen issues so I was looking around and happened upon repair shop in Orlando, FL that was selling screen repairs on ebay for $80. They had good positive feedback from other people who had sent their phone to them so I decided to do it.
Long story short, for an entire month they had my phone and kept making excuses on why my phone wasn't fixed yet and informed me that the digitizer was not the problem but a cable between the digitizer and the motherboard was, but they had already fixed it and needed $30 more bucks and were going to drop it in the mail as soon as they got the money for the extra part, they had got a shipping code and everything.
Given the choice, I would've told them to send it back without fixing it but they already had, and since I had been a month without my phone I just said fine and I paid them again. And that's when they ceased all communication with me. I opened a case with eBay and after a week they decided I deserved a refund of my $80, however there was nothing they could do but politely ask the ebayer to return my phone.
So, as a warning, do not deal with this ebayer
and if you're living in Orlando, don't take your phone here:
Orlando Cell Phone Repair
6521 E.Colonial Dr
Orlando Fl 32807
their email: [email protected]
phone number: 407-455-8133
Also if you want to sign any of the above addresses up for your favorite spam site, that would be fine with me
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Hi everyone,
I'd like to share a word of caution so hopefully you don't have to go through what I have.
About a month and a half ago my phone was having touchscreen issues so I was looking around and happened upon repair shop in Orlando, FL that was selling screen repairs on ebay for $80. They had good positive feedback from other people who had sent their phone to them so I decided to do it.
Long story short, for an entire month they had my phone and kept making excuses on why my phone wasn't fixed yet and informed me that the digitizer was not the problem but a cable between the digitizer and the motherboard was, but they had already fixed it and needed $30 more bucks and were going to drop it in the mail as soon as they got the money for the extra part, they had got a shipping code and everything.
Given the choice, I would've told them to send it back without fixing it but they already had, and since I had been a month without my phone I just said fine and I paid them again. And that's when they ceased all communication with me. I opened a case with eBay and after a week they decided I deserved a refund of my $80, however there was nothing they could do but politely ask the ebayer to return my phone.
So, as a warning, do not deal with this ebayer
and if you're living in Orlando, don't take your phone here:
Orlando Cell Phone Repair
6521 E.Colonial Dr
Orlando Fl 32807
their email: [email protected]
phone number: 407-455-8133
Also if you want to sign any of the above addresses up for your favorite spam site, that would be fine with me
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this may help a lot of people !!
i feel sorry for your loss !!
I was born and raised in Orlando and live in Tampa now. I'm not back often, but next time I'm in town I'll try to stop by and raise hell with them.
Any news on getting your phone back?
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borgib said:
I was born and raised in Orlando and live in Tampa now. I'm not back often, but next time I'm in town I'll try to stop by and raise hell with them.
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Thanks alot, I appreciate that
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Any news on getting your phone back?
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Nope, as always they're not replying to any emails and not answering my calls
Don't suppose you know your IMEI number, or S/N of the phone? I wouldn't be surprised if it wound up on EBAY for sale again.
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Don't suppose you know your IMEI number, or S/N of the phone? I wouldn't be surprised if it wound up on EBAY for sale again.
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unfortunately not I forgot to write them down before I sent it off..and yeah I've been keeping an eye out for it, but I'm sure they would be smart enough to do it through a different account..
have you tried notifying the carrier you use? sometimes they save the imei of the device you use when you make a purchase or even just trading sim card, although few do it that way.
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have you tried notifying the carrier you use? sometimes they save the imei of the device you use when you make a purchase or even just trading sim card, although few do it that way.
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Thanks, I'll try contacting them to see if they have it on record, I did buy it from them
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Thanks, I'll try contacting them to see if they have it on record, I did buy it from them
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Treat the situation as a stolen phone. Contact your carrier and tell them it was stolen.
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Treat the situation as a stolen phone. Contact your carrier and tell them it was stolen.
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I would definitely do the same thing as well. Theft has all forms so if you are prepared to do some work then you should even call the police on them.
Have you read their Terms and Conditions? Is there anything that you can go to the police with? Do you have a record of your shipment to them?
I was very sorry to hear about you experience.
It's difficult when this 'shop' had good reviews on Ebay. That typically says it's okay to send something to them as you're going to get it returned, but what I read is ridiculous. Since I haven't seen anyone else recommend it, why not A) report the phone as stolen and B) report your stolen phone to the police.
Granted it's just a phone, but even then it's property and it sounds like this repair place is in the same area you're in, though I could be wrong.
I hope you get your phone back. Sorry to hear it even happened. :-(
-Dave
Well now that we have the phone number we should all call and tell them to return this guys phone.
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Well now that we have the phone number we should all call and tell them to return this guys phone.
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Don't know the shop and don't know the guy posting this problem. We should trust what the OP says because? Just saying! Nobody should go calling anyone. If what the OP says is in fact true, then there is legal recourse if he has proof someone has his phone.
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Treat the situation as a stolen phone. Contact your carrier and tell them it was stolen.
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Just called my carrier and they said they can't really do anything except suspend my service, but since I took my sim out before I sent the phone, I don't need that. They didn't have record of my atrix's IMEI number, so no luck there.
Anyways, I'm saving up money to get another atrix(because I just love this phone) so I'll be getting another one soon..
Thanks everyone for your support, I just started this thread to warn anyone else against dealing with these people, so don't worry too much about calling them up, like Caelan says, you don't really know me, and it probably won't help too much either way.
Thanks again
I don't suppose you have the box of the phone saved somewhere do you?
both IMEI and SN numbers are on there.
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I don't suppose you have the box of the phone saved somewhere do you?
both IMEI and SN numbers are on there.
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Thanks for the suggestion, but those are long gone
Should have installed avast and enabled the anti theft option.
at this point you could have totally locked the phone down and even if he factory reset somehow it wouldnt matter
Just always remember karma is a really you know what and what goes around comes around
hello all
to start off with this has nothing to do with flashing!
basically my phone got barred/blocked so i could not receive or make any phone calls.. this happened this morning
i had purchased my phone off somebody else on the side.. but i have proof of contact made between us and also have proof that i had used the device from my network provider and i also have the box proving that i never stole the handset.
i want to know who i can contact to record this as a fraudulent case but most importantly get my phone unbarred! I am from the UK so bare that in mind my international buddies
all help is much appreciated
thank you
Take it to the police with your documents and give them the name of the person you bought it from.
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Take it to the police with your documents and give them the name of the person you bought it from.
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the police said that it is a civil case and not a criminal case (i take it as they are just lazy!)
they told me to call the citizen advice bureau but when i called they didnt pick up
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hello all
to start off with this has nothing to do with flashing!
basically my phone got barred/blocked so i could not receive or make any phone calls.. this happened this morning
i had purchased my phone off somebody else on the side.. but i have proof of contact made between us and also have proof that i had used the device from my network provider and i also have the box proving that i never stole the handset.
i want to know who i can contact to record this as a fraudulent case but most importantly get my phone unbarred! I am from the UK so bare that in mind my international buddies
all help is much appreciated
thank you
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You state that you 'used the phone on your providers network', so it did work ?
When you buy something 2nd hand you have no warranty, that's the way it works.
Where is the fraudulent part ??
aadil7 said:
hello all
to start off with this has nothing to do with flashing!
basically my phone got barred/blocked so i could not receive or make any phone calls.. this happened this morning
i had purchased my phone off somebody else on the side.. but i have proof of contact made between us and also have proof that i had used the device from my network provider and i also have the box proving that i never stole the handset.
i want to know who i can contact to record this as a fraudulent case but most importantly get my phone unbarred! I am from the UK so bare that in mind my international buddies
all help is much appreciated
thank you
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If you have been sold stolen goods then that is a crime.
That, my friend, is a criminal offence. Go back to the rozzers and report a crime.
Happened to me once also when i bought an iPhone 3GS of gumtree. Police or anyone else didn't give a damn at all. Tried citizen bureau, trading standards etc none of them honestly gave a f**k
So ended up using it as an iPod touch for a month, until one day i tried my luck and went to an apple store and explained the situation to them. They took the barred phone and gave me a working one.
and what has XDA got to do with your barred phone? change the IMEI if you can!
you can do that?
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Barred/Blocked is because of the Network provider...contacting them would solve the problem i guess
Dont do IMEI change . Its a crime.
Act as a honest person and walk into the nearby Samsung Store/ Polics STation and explain the situation.
IMEI change can be done only by Samsung following their own security protocols.
I would suspect the device is stolen or in breach of contract. All European networks will block it and getting it unblocked is a massive chore.
If the person who originally got the phone on contract then didn't pay the bills or got the contract using falsified documents then the provider can lock the device as technically that would be theft by fraud.
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I would suspect the device is stolen or in breach of contract. All European networks will block it and getting it unblocked is a massive chore.
If the person who originally got the phone on contract then didn't pay the bills or got the contract using falsified documents then the provider can lock the device as technically that would be theft by fraud.
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I suspect this is the most likely explanation, even if the phone came in a original box, it may be have been stolen from a shop, or a delivery truck. Then the shop owner sends a list of the stolen IMEIs and they are blocked.
Or some other reason that IMEI was blocked. I went to a pawn shop to sell an old phone this weekend and they check the IMEI on a data base, and test that the phone can make calls before giving you the money. And your name and a copy of your ID is registered, in case someone has declared that phone as lost or stolen.
Thanks for the replys guys
And no i dont expect xda to help unbarr my phone i never wrote that so read before you post noncense..
I am going to call the citizens advice bureau in 5 mins anyway see what they actually say.. i am determined to get to the bottom of this and get my imei unblocked the right way and get that guy done for fraud..
I have spoken to o2 also where he originally got the phone from and they have got their fraud team working on it.. just as an update.. i want this thread to help all those people out there who dont know what to do when their phone gets barred..
Justice will be served one way or another!
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Well i just called tge citizens advice bureau and i honestly dont know why they even bother opening because nobody seems to want to pick up the phone!
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aadil7 said:
Well i just called tge citizens advice bureau and i honestly dont know why they even bother opening because nobody seems to want to pick up the phone!
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Thank the coalition government and it's cut backs for that one!
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Do you have contact details for the person who sold the phone to you ?
If so then your best option may well be to get try getting your money back from them either volutarily or via Small Claims Court.
I've not done it myself but people I know have tried it say that small claims court action is pretty strightforward and simple as long as you have documentation to support your claims.
https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk/web/mcol/welcome
If you don't have contact details, did you do the trade via a site like AV-Forums ? If so the admins there might be able to assist you in finding them.
Thanks for the response..
I got it off ebay but i dealt with him on the side so i sent him an email and i went to pick the phone up in person and i paid cash.. he seemed like a nice chap plus he had good feedback..
The thing with tgese claims is that they cost to put a claim through and thats something im trying to minimize as a student without a job! Plus time wise they seem to take forever!!!
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he purchased a phone from somebody who might have stolen it, thus it was requested to be blocked by the owner.
purchasing stolen goods is also a crime in many places. and where i live, the police can even track your identity via your sim card if you use it on a "hot" IMEI.
keep the phone as audio-video and/or game console.
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sir sent you a pm .. kindly respond
The phone was originally on which network ?? I mean the phone was originally bought from o2,3 or which network ??
And you are using it on.which network ?? Did you call your network provider and confirmed it to.be a blacklisted phone ??
Okay so I bought an S4 off craigslist and the next day he reports it stolen and blacklists it, I contact his friend trying to work it out (note: everything we said to each other was over texts, so I have them still as proof - and I got his friends number the day I met him.. he deactivated his service).. he said he doesn't know why his friend blacklisted it but he would call AT&T to unblock it, shortly after he said he did it.. I waited patiently but to realize that it was still blocked so I text him again, he doesnt respond for a full day so I told him I will call the Police. He must have gotten scared because he finally responds and unblocks it.... I used it for a couple hours, then my service cuts off and he sends me this long message telling me that he blocked it again and is calling the cops because I threatened him?. I never said anything threatening to him but whatever....
So I call the police, report everything and tell them the story. A couple hours later a detective calls me and asks if I would like to prosecute, I agreed... so now Im waiting to see what happened...
What do you guys think? I should easily win right, I have all the proof. All the texts.. from before I purchased and from after.. and I have his original craigslist post....
I told this guy 100 times to either unblock it or just give my money back and id cancel the prosecution but he didnt respond, so whatever. ..
Anybody been through something similiar?. Think I should win? He clearly commited insurance fraud... and must have created a police report to report his "stolen" phone..
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Yeah definetly, I flip phones every now and then on craigslist but only meet in public areas infront of cameras, and I make sure its a real number. Which in this case it was, he must have thought I was bluffing when I said I would call the police.. I just turned 20, I really don't have time for this mess with school and work.. I gave the detective his information and he said he located him and spoke with him, and will me a line up after the weekend.. I mean seriously? Just give me back my money dude, why even risk jail time when I told him id drop charges...... people these days are ridiculous...
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That's... really messed up. You should definitely win. So long as you have all that information condemning him, I don't see any reason why you should lose. Obviously this guy is retarded because he doesn't realize that he will be convicted of fraud (against you), insurance fraud, lying to the police, and possibly other things. Over a phone? How much could this guy possibly make from a scam like that? A few hundred bucks maybe, and obviously can't keep doing this because AT&T would catch on to the fact that he keeps buying phones from them with insurance and losing them.
This dude is so pathetic I kind of feel bad for him...
dont drop the charges. he wasted your time, time and stress youll never get back. No matter what, dont drop anything, people like that should be taught a lesson to make sure they think twice before attempting fraud
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dont drop the charges. he wasted your time, time and stress youll never get back. No matter what, dont drop anything, people like that should be taught a lesson to make sure they think twice before attempting fraud
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I agree, if you drop the charges if will try this with someone else.
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I sell phones on Craigslist all the time and this is why it is no longer a good practice. Can no longer trust anyone and that causes more low ball offers.
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Craigslist nuff said.
I just got my s4 this past Thursday through craigslist, I told the guy that for us to make a deal we would have to meet at a corporate AT&T store to have the phone verified and documented that I purchased his phone . to make sure there was no back lash on me.
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REDFOCZ said:
I just got my s4 this past Thursday through craigslist, I told the guy that for us to make a deal we would have to meet at a corporate AT&T store to have the phone verified and documented that I purchased his phone . to make sure there was no back lash on me.
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Way too much work. I'd rather pay full price for a phone. don't have time to deal with CL idiots anymore.
I stopped using cl a long time ago, can't trust anybody these days.
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You sure the detective wasn't one of friends?
Agree... I'll do it in the store next time. Thx for the story. Good luck.
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legal ways around this...
ask for purchase reciept with signature name and id
ask for his/her id
go to local att/tmob/verizon whatever store and and confirm IMIE/serial belongs to seller
ask for manager and tell them phone is being sold not stolen (or call)
friend sells/buys phones off CL all the time, unless they agree to all the above he wont deal with them. only way to be safe. also, i would report the guy who did it; thats insurance fraud, falsifying a police report, and some minor infractions. you have his number? call him leave message and tell him you will report insurance fraud; they will pursue it.
I have a detective on the case already, he deactivated his number but he was stupid enough to tell me where he lives and gave me.his friends number the day I purchased it.
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I sell my old phones on CL and have noticed people are being extra paranoid these days.
When I sold my iphone 5 the buyer asked for the imei # I refused to give it over the text. how do I know what this person plans to do with it?
of course they asked if it was stolen, I obviously said no. I showed them the original box, even the shipping box it came it, I of course removed my address. Let them pop in their sim card and they were satisfied.
I'm curious to know how much you bought your 2nd hand S4 for? I would think someone looking to scam someone would try to make a quick buck with people that aren't gonna think twice to buy it if it's too cheap.
Let's say like 300? no one in their right mind would sell you an S4 for half of what it costs new, of course unless if they were going to scam you... I would be suspicious of it before I agree to buy something that seems too cheap...
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........ I bet that asshole tried to claim insurance on the phone.
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That about sums it up.
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kurdish11 said:
Okay so I bought an S4 off craigslist and the next day he reports it stolen and blacklists it, I contact his friend trying to work it out (note: everything we said to each other was over texts, so I have them still as proof - and I got his friends number the day I met him.. he deactivated his service).. he said he doesn't know why his friend blacklisted it but he would call AT&T to unblock it, shortly after he said he did it.. I waited patiently but to realize that it was still blocked so I text him again, he doesnt respond for a full day so I told him I will call the Police. He must have gotten scared because he finally responds and unblocks it.... I used it for a couple hours, then my service cuts off and he sends me this long message telling me that he blocked it again and is calling the cops because I threatened him?. I never said anything threatening to him but whatever....
So I call the police, report everything and tell them the story. A couple hours later a detective calls me and asks if I would like to prosecute, I agreed... so now Im waiting to see what happened...
What do you guys think? I should easily win right, I have all the proof. All the texts.. from before I purchased and from after.. and I have his original craigslist post....
I told this guy 100 times to either unblock it or just give my money back and id cancel the prosecution but he didnt respond, so whatever. ..
Anybody been through something similiar?. Think I should win? He clearly commited insurance fraud... and must have created a police report to report his "stolen" phone..
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You will win. You can take him to small claims court and have him pay the fees too.
See if you can get a cache of his ad just in case for evidence. Most likely he'll cave in and refund you.
Show him all of your evidence and say "we can take this to court and I'm sure I will win."
On a side note, what an awesome detective working your case. I'm sure he's very busy too. These guys have back logs of cases not resolved and have to work tons of overtime.
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TheAxman said:
You sure the detective wasn't one of friends?
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You're kidding right........?..... yeah im sure I connected coincidentally to his friend when I called 911 and they provided me with that detective.
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galaxy808 said:
I sell my old phones on CL and have noticed people are being extra paranoid these days.
When I sold my iphone 5 the buyer asked for the imei # I refused to give it over the text. how do I know what this person plans to do with it?
of course they asked if it was stolen, I obviously said no. I showed them the original box, even the shipping box it came it, I of course removed my address. Let them pop in their sim card and they were satisfied.
I'm curious to know how much you bought your 2nd hand S4 for? I would think someone looking to scam someone would try to make a quick buck with people that aren't gonna think twice to buy it if it's too cheap.
Let's say like 300? no one in their right mind would sell you an S4 for half of what it costs new, of course unless if they were going to scam you... I would be suspicious of it before I agree to buy something that seems too cheap...
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300 is right. But it was in bad condition, the frame was jacked up. Other than that nope. I thought I just ran into some idiot.. turns out I was right, an idiot he was.
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You will win. You can take him to small claims court and have him pay the fees too.
See if you can get a cache of his ad just in case for evidence. Most likely he'll cave in and refund you.
Show him all of your evidence and say "we can take this to court and I'm sure I will win."
On a side note, what an awesome detective working your case. I'm sure he's very busy too. These guys have back logs of cases not resolved and have to work tons of overtime.
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It's not small claims though, the detective asked if I would like to prosecute him in court and I said yes. Later asked if it would be small claims and he said no, so im guessing its the real deal... anybody know if any fees will have to be paid out of my pocket for court?
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