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Suitable Finance App for Android UK

Guys,
I'm looking into getting an Android (HTC Desire looks like the best Android machine but oh would love to be able to get hold of the Evo or similar).
A couple of grey areas I need to sort out are:-
1. Rich Text Format read & write.
2. Finance software.
Reference the Finance software, can anyone point me to having a read on what would be considered a suitable application that can allow me to use the finance program similar to how Cash Organizer on Windows Mobile works.
i.e. Have an index of Accounts, Register, Projects, Planner, Budget, Reports.
Accounts would list all the accounts.
Register would list all transactions within a particular account.
Projects ~ as it says.
Planner would list all future transactions so you can see at a glance what is coming out and what account it is going to.
Budget ~ as it says.
Reports ~ as it says.
My Brother who has a Desire tried briefly MyMoney but he told me it's not powerful enough.... however, I'd like to hear more on this from other users.
These two items are at the moment stopping me changing from Windows Mobile to Android.
If anyone can help it would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Beards

Anyone have any ideas??

Hi Beards
Currently I'm using Financisto. It has everything you mentioned except the planner part, which I miss too. But it links your money operations to location and you can see reports based on location. Check it out and tell me what you think. If you'll find a better app please let me know.
Mantas

mantasvarnagiris said:
Hi Beards
Currently I'm using Financisto. It has everything you mentioned except the planner part, which I miss too. But it links your money operations to location and you can see reports based on location. Check it out and tell me what you think. If you'll find a better app please let me know.
Mantas
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Many thanks Mantas for your contribution.
You mention there is no planner with this software. Unfortunately, this is one of the most important factors, as I need to be able to add all my monthly repeated outgoings so that the finance program will look at them on the specific date and automatically add the item to a named account.
At present all my testing has to be carried out on my Brother's Desire as I am still in the deciding factor on whether or not to ditch my Windows Mobile HD2 and move on up to Android.
Have you tried MyMoney or any other application.
I will however ask him to install Financisto and get him to show me what it can and can not achieve.
Thanks again.
Beards.

have you tried firewallet I installed it last night but not played with it yet.
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madmossy said:
have you tried firewallet I installed it last night but not played with it yet.
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I'de be interested to hear your comments ~ especially if it does what I am trying to replicate from Cash Organizer.
Does it offer a 'Planner' so you can plan your spending's in advance and see from a Tab what date a transaction would be due to be added?

Beards said:
I'de be interested to hear your comments ~ especially if it does what I am trying to replicate from Cash Organizer.
Does it offer a 'Planner' so you can plan your spending's in advance and see from a Tab what date a transaction would be due to be added?
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I've set mine up to include all my direct debits for the month and they are set to occur every month on the same date, if thats what your after.
There is a 30 day trial of it on the market place, search for Firewallet.

madmossy said:
I've set mine up to include all my direct debits for the month and they are set to occur every month on the same date, if thats what your after.
There is a 30 day trial of it on the market place, search for Firewallet.
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Yes, a direct debit planner is ideal.
I'll get my brother to download and test it out for me.
Thanks.

also check out easymoney. that's what I'm currently using after trying out several other options. I'm probably not as much of a power user as you, but I think easymoney can do what you want.
best of luck, and if you do find something perfect I'd like to hear your thoughts.
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When I switched from WM to Android this was also one of my constraints.
Used to work with SPB Finance for years. It never really updated but did a very good job (planner included).
I have now found a good replacement in ClearCheckbook.com.
Is actually better as they also have a website account which syncs nicely with the Desire.
If by planner you mean repeating transactions then yes it is available.
Also have a good customer service .... quick at replying
Only downside is you need to pay for a subscription ....

unclesomebody said:
also check out easymoney. that's what I'm currently using after trying out several other options. I'm probably not as much of a power user as you, but I think easymoney can do what you want.
best of luck, and if you do find something perfect I'd like to hear your thoughts.
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Sjengie said:
When I switched from WM to Android this was also one of my constraints.
Used to work with SPB Finance for years. It never really updated but did a very good job (planner included).
I have now found a good replacement in ClearCheckbook.com.
Is actually better as they also have a website account which syncs nicely with the Desire.
If by planner you mean repeating transactions then yes it is available.
Also have a good customer service .... quick at replying
Only downside is you need to pay for a subscription ....
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Many thanks for the additional Apps to try.
My Brother is popping round tonight with his Desire in order I can try out a few of these titles.
I'll certainly post back which I found most comfortable in using.

Well, thanks once again Guys for all your input.... It has been most welcome and truly appreciated.
I've 'briefly' tried all the Apps you can install and can see both positives & negatives on all but admit these are based solely on my own personal requirements as one App may well suit one user very well whereas with another user it limits the usefulness.
Financisto ~ I found limiting to my requirements.
I was surprised there is no recurring payments or split transaction to name but two.
It was easy to navigate and in no time I was up and running with several accounts.
Location was different and useful. Definitely see a use for this.
Firewallet ~ I found the Bill Reminder (Planner) but it was limiting in the choices given.
Again I could not see any way to split a transaction and worse I could not find a category list.... Please update me if I got that wrong as again I only managed to test it out briefly.
EasyMoney ~ was by far the most professional App, both in it's design and operation of use.
There is so much you can play with this App and love.
Granted I personally would like more control over say individual category expense lists (ability to see at a glance how much each category has spent over a period of time) but of the three I tried EasyMoney held me captive longer.
With more time it could well be my choice... Next step is to purchase an Android and investigate it further myself.
ClearCheckbook.com ~ being an online accounts manager looks promising purely for the fact I can manage the accounts either on the Laptop or on the Android.
I did not get a chance to try this out; namely due to the fact I first need to create an account with ClearCheckbook and then see exactly what is transferred to the Android device.
It is one which I will investigate after I purchase my Android Phone so again my thanks Sjengie in bringing it to my attention.
Once again thank you all.
Without your input I would not have covered the ground I wish to undertake prior to my Phone purchase.

Cheers for the quick review. I'm after a finance app so I'll give some of these a try.

hi beards et al
I'm very much in the same boat as you & it is great to see I'm not the only one in this dilemma.
I will try easymoney again as I did not find it to be that good when I first looked into this a few months back.
I installed firewallet & got a quick response to a query from the developer re importing data so will try playing a bit more with that. (he advised me to create the accounts I want with a zero initial balance and then import transactions for each account one at a time. will definitely make living year to date transactions easier although I guess I'll have to add in all the categories too).
if you guys could share your methods of migrating your data across into yr new apps & any other tips & tricks that would be great!
also if there are enough of us cdnt we try lobbying a developer to tweak their app to our requirements or even get a WinMo dev to release an Android version of their app?
regards
Ansi
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Thanks for the feedback Beards. Hope you get your Desire soon...

I'm also a SPB finance user on WM and I haven't found anything yet that does nearly such a good job for me on Android, (I've tried all those listed here and more) But another one to try is "Loot" it is free, there is a "pro" bolt on that costs money and adds a few extra features, for me it is one of the closest to SPB finance but still not close enough!
I'm currently still using my Touch Diamond 2 winmo phone for finance tracking (you'd be astounded how long the battery lasts if you leave it permanently in flight mode btw!)
P.

popkid said:
I'm also a SPB finance user on WM and I haven't found anything yet that does nearly such a good job for me on Android, (I've tried all those listed here and more) But another one to try is "Loot" it is free, there is a "pro" bolt on that costs money and adds a few extra features, for me it is one of the closest to SPB finance but still not close enough!
I'm currently still using my Touch Diamond 2 winmo phone for finance tracking (you'd be astounded how long the battery lasts if you leave it permanently in flight mode btw!)
P.
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Thanks... I'll mention this one to my Brother.
I know what you mean in not finding that perfect title.
Maybe it's because we are so much used to the WM application that we can only see what that particular title can give us.
I've loved using Cash Organizer for many years and I know no matter which Android application I find and use it's not going to give me the same as CO.
Having said this, I am sure there will be areas in Android where I did not realize I needed which I'll find and love.
As such I'm going to go in openly and receptive, to look only for the good in the program.
If I can't find the good then there's no point in afterward searching for the bad....
Now I need to focus my attention on getting my Android phone.
It's going to be difficult as my HD2 has for the past 6 months (or so) given me great service and I've been happy with the WM software.
But as we know, it's no point staying with a 'safe' product, you have to look outside the box to better your aims.
HTC Desire or Samsung i9000 Galaxy S
Don't you just love technology.

I don't know anything about this software, I just read a blog post about it...
http://www.mint.com/
Apparently its something from the iPhone that has just been brought to Android.
EDIT: Hmm...just been reading through and everything seems to be in dollars and how it "connects securely to nearly all US banking financial institutions". Could just be an American app.
EDIT 2: Just found this...
Does Mint.com support international banks?
Not yet. Currently Mint only supports US-based financial institutions. We hope to support financial institutions based outside of the US in the future.
Shame, looks pretty good.

Raul Duke said:
I don't know anything about this software, I just read a blog post about it...
http://www.mint.com/
Apparently its something from the iPhone that has just been brought to Android.
EDIT: Hmm...just been reading through and everything seems to be in dollars and how it "connects securely to nearly all US banking financial institutions". Could just be an American app.
EDIT 2: Just found this...
Does Mint.com support international banks?
Not yet. Currently Mint only supports US-based financial institutions. We hope to support financial institutions based outside of the US in the future.
Shame, looks pretty good.
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Many thanks for the info and edited updates.... appreciated.

Well I took the plunge and 'Pre-Ordered' my first Android.
After a lot of deliberation I altered my choice in getting the Desire to now opt for the soon to be released Samsung GT-i9000 Galaxy S.
The problem is I will have to wait until the end of the month when shipment is expected.
So, to all who participated I won't be able to make any follow-up on the software titles until after this date, sorry.
Beards

Blackberry Messenger (For Android)

.ducks/rolls. Hey - It's not nice to throw things.
Ok, I know it's been asked a million times, so before you cut my heart out and eat it with buttered toast, hear me out. I understand that pin messaging is on a closed network, I have searched the forums here, and numerous other places, and everyone agrees on the same thing.
Blackberry just released the 4.6 JDE publicly.
There is a website, Web2Pin, that provides free priority 1 messages to blackberries; and offers to design services around the BBM platform, but they charge an extraordinary amount of money and deal only with corporations.
My thoughts are that there has to be a secondary licensing system from blackberry, and that there has to be a way to design third party software, because it's obviously been done.
I'm not Java-wise, nor Android-wise, so my logic is most likely flawed, but I thought I'd put it out there and see what happens.

dismal moron said:
.ducks/rolls. Hey - It's not nice to throw things.
Ok, I know it's been asked a million times, so before you cut my heart out and eat it with buttered toast, hear me out. I understand that pin messaging is on a closed network, I have searched the forums here, and numerous other places, and everyone agrees on the same thing.
Blackberry just released the 4.6 JDE publicly.
There is a website, Web2Pin, that provides free priority 1 messages to blackberries; and offers to design services around the BBM platform, but they charge an extraordinary amount of money and deal only with corporations.
My thoughts are that there has to be a secondary licensing system from blackberry, and that there has to be a way to design third party software, because it's obviously been done.
I'm not Java-wise, nor Android-wise, so my logic is most likely flawed, but I thought I'd put it out there and see what happens.
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I'm a long time blackberry user (since the 7100 series) I know this has been talked about several times...I know it has something to do with having a valid pin as thats how bbm communicates with the BIS servers. The program would have to clone a pin or something and be able to ping the server and get access I would think...BlackBerry development has reached several third parties but bbm is a core app and liscensed by RIM so I dont know if or how it could be done would be nice...The final insult to injury lol.

@Sunder74
That's what I had originally thought as well. But I also remember a few years ago when there was a little known, functioning application for WM5 that would do pin messaging (I had tested it while I was working Data Tech at a VZW Call Center).
There's also the up and coming Blackberry Application Suite. It currently only works with BES. I've a hunch that it's probably because they're going to sell pin numbers to corporations or bes server admins.
My other thought is, RIM would probably be more open to selling PIN licenses to individuals if there was a functional, stable piece of software (or base coding) for them to advertise alongside it.
Before the Blackberry App store, I remember going to a website that linked to a bunch of OTA installers grouped by category.
I don't just really want this to work. All the pieces seem to be there. Web2pin proves that the licenses can be purchased and used with bis, somehow. BBAS is about to roll out on WM. It's has to be possible.
I know! I'll sit down in my thinking chair and... Think. Think. Think.

I think the issue here is your all thinking inside the box. Android developers should design there own bbm styled app where android users would get AndroidPins and using the exact framework to create a competition and not a way to just communicate to bb people.
Android Messenger
ver 1.0
Android Pins: A9999-A999999999
Can send msgs threw data just like black berries
Would be free and you could make a donation or pay 1$ for the app
you register your number on the app and you recieve a android pin from the server
and basiclly figure out how to send pushes for when the person recieves and opens and responds to the message
the concept is there for android but i dont think people realize that black berry is like apple they try to close source there stuff which is ok but when android is open source you can litterally work on setting this app to work for communicating with apple iphones maybe blackberries too if you have the skill
just throwin around that idea

I do not know if you have ever noticed this, but bbm is RIM's largest ad campaign. There is very little chance that they would sell bbm PIN's.
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actually theres a app being developed for android its called Hello Messenger. Its already out for iOS and Blackberrys, it works just like bbm, with pin numbers and group chats. Follow them on twitter, @hellomessenger. Also theres a Android beta coming out soon, I signed up for it at http://hellomessenger.com/android/. Tell your friends.

Can't Google Talk be categorized here? Seeing as most Android users are using google accounts? Pingchat is coming to Android soon too http://pingchat.com/

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Can't Google Talk be categorized here? Seeing as most Android users are using google accounts? Pingchat is coming to Android soon too http://pingchat.com/
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Its already out. Search in market

there's also whatsapp

im waiting for WhatsApp it is out for iOS, BBOS, they are developing it for Android 2.1+, WM and S60. It uses your mobile number as your pin so to speak.

Whatsapp is already there. I have it installed on my Desire. You download the app and they have to let you logging, because its a preview, but fully working.
Y will search for the link
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"We have authorized your phone to participate in our beta test. The url for installation is
http:// beta.whatsapp.com/WhatsApp.apk
As this is a very early beta, please let us know if you are able to install successfully Any questions or support go to [email protected] When sending us bugs, please use this route Chats > Menu Settings > About > Contact Us so that we may receive logs at the same time."
Send to them an e-mail saying that you have an android phone and that you want to test their soft and you will get an email similar to that one.
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I get a message saying you are not authorized in the beta. How do i get round that?

You have to send an email to the adress posted before. You have yo tell them that you want to try their soft as beta tester in your android phone.
After few hours/days you will get an email like the one i posted allowing you to use the soft.
I forgot yo say that You have to include in the email your full mobile number (with country code), the same that you use in the app. They use it to activate your app.

Me and my friends used blackberry messenger for the longest time. Mainly the groupchat feature because it was basically a live chat room for only your friends to share pics voice records and randomness. Unfortunately both pinchat and whatsapp do not supply a good group chat. pinchat does have a group chat but its garbage compared to the BBmsger group chat and whatsapp is just flawed. I am still in search for a good group chat program that is also cross platform. or at least on android.

Non-BB users underestimate how much people love BBM. If there's going to be a cross-platform alternative, it has to do everything that BBM does as close to the way BBM does it as possible. PingChat and WhatsApp come close, but they aren't going to win over BBM users with their subtle, but important deficiencies. I'm looking forwards to the Android release of Hello! to compare.
The biggest problem is that BBM comes installed on BlackBerry phones, and it's going to be VERY hard convincing BB users to install something else. Android and iPhone users are more happy to install new apps, but having everyone pick one app and stick with it is a challenge as well.

PrawnPoBoy said:
Non-BB users underestimate how much people love BBM. If there's going to be a cross-platform alternative, it has to do everything that BBM does as close to the way BBM does it as possible. PingChat and WhatsApp come close, but they aren't going to win over BBM users with their subtle, but important deficiencies. I'm looking forwards to the Android release of Hello! to compare.
The biggest problem is that BBM comes installed on BlackBerry phones, and it's going to be VERY hard convincing BB users to install something else. Android and iPhone users are more happy to install new apps, but having everyone pick one app and stick with it is a challenge as well.
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Why not try ICQ, throwing a homage to the original IM. Its got native clients for most, if not all platforms. Its even usually listed as a quick install link on BB. Facebook chat is integrated (on desktop and Android versions, don't knpw about Java/Symbian and iOS). You get a number for anti-spaming (like a PIN if you REALLY want to emulate BB).
Yes, some would say "just use X IM app then." But its the only one with native support other than fring. And I find fring clumsy, plus does not have a desktop version.
I have BBM on my work BB. And I know that its superior in a lot of ways, but willing to bet that the reason a lot of features aren't being duplicated are likely legal, not technical, reasons. So I think this is a viable option until whatsapp or others have the kinks worked out (have yet to have a successful convo in 2 days!). Maybe with enough interest they can get the things we want added.

there is app called crosstalk
but i don't know when they will release it
it's written in the official site it will com at the end of aug
but tell now nothing!!!
check this site for more info
http://www.blueplanetapps.com/products/CrossTalk.aspx

2 quick questions..
Why doesn't google talk use the new google push?(would save battery)
Also can't some one use the new push service google made to power a chat program?
http://code.google.com/apis/feed/push/
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? Hmm.. any one?
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Samsung Galaxy S a dissapointment?

Hi guys,
I decided to share with you my thoughts about Samsung Galaxy S.
Historicaly, in the last 2 years I owned HTC Tyt'n 2, iPhone 3GS, HTC HD2, and now Galaxy S.
Out of all these devices I have to recognise that the iPhone wad the most user friendly phone I ever have. Unfortunatly the fact my local cellular company doesn't sell it so after a re-softing to 3.1.3 I had to sell it....
I took HD2 because at that moment of time Galaxy S was not available. When it become available in Romania, last week, I quiqly buy it.
And now...... I am totaly dissapointed!
1. I can not use the embeded email client for Exchange and Yahoo accounts.
2. I had to serch and to install a separate Exchange email client, Moxier. It's ok but it has some limitations;
3. I installed the Yahoo email client from Android Market, but simply I can not use it!!! If I open it the CPU is going to 100% and the phone is working ver slow. So practicaly I can not check my Yahoo emails;
4. When I open for the first time an application, I wait arround 15 seconds!?! I saw on the forum that this is normal..... Strange.
And I can continue.....
What's wrong with this phone? My impression is that, simply it is not prepared for mass market delivery! Samsung doesn't care about their customers and it hurry up to launch it.
I saw how Apple react at the anntena signal issue.... Big difference! Samsung doesn't care that Google launch Android 2.2! How can they wait for launching it on their phones, when they have so big troubles? And we are speaking about the highest end phone in their portofolio.
I am still patient, but if I continue to have issues in my daily staff using the phone I 'll change it.
What do you think?
Thanks
Mircea
PS: I am using the official last software
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With the 2.2 Update, it's only barely come out officially. While its likely true that developers would have had internal builds to test out on, they only now have their solid base. You can see this with the desire being close to having it's froyo update to come out soon - looks like that we are going to be about a month or two past that.
I'm not dissapointed with this phone, love the interface so far, and the thought samsung put into things like divx playback.
I am a bit let down by not having it an easily to use device for development though.

For your mail woes, maybe you didn't do enough research.
It's common knowledge that only Froyo brings in Exchange support. There will be other apps, but until Froyo, there won't be any official google support.
For POP/IMAP (which'll be your Yahoo, Gmail and probably your Exchange if you ask your IT Support nice enough), look at K-9 Mail. It's fantastic. It's taken from the original mail client android comes with and built ontop, with things like IMAP IDLE (push) and some other very nice features.
My Galaxy S is simply fantastic, yes i have noticed a few slow-down issues, which i wasn't expecting, but the Samsung guys are working hard to fix them i'm sure, as are the hacker community here on XDA.
One thing i have noticed, where i am in London, i haven't seen a single advert for the Galaxy S. However they are selling really well, and getting very good feedback. I'm convinced Sammy did this to release the device, iron out the wrinkles, then attack it with Marketing. The hackers have already got the device running faster than a Nexus One with Froyo on it, with a slightly modded 2.1. Imagine what 2.2 will be like.
Simply amazing phone, don't regret choosing it over the Desire a single bit.
And FYI, Apples initial reaction to the Antenna issues were appauling, 'Don't hold it like that', is not the response you expect from one of the big 3. They are only now 'patching' the issue with a free rubber band, instead of actually fixing it.

You should try out k9. It's so much faster than the crappy stock email client. UI is good. You can refresh all mail account instead of having to do it one by one as in the stock. You an set up yahoo account whereas stock mail can't. There is a select all button for mass deletion, mark read, or mark unread, which is great. Performance is still slow compared to iPhone's but is way better than the stock. I also like the gesture feature to move from mail to mail like one would in viewing pictures. Try it. You might like it.

You may need a task killer as the phone multitasks really well, please consider that the phone will be like %150 better when froyo comes and for me this phone is a beast already
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mirceal said:
Hi guys,
I decided to share with you my thoughts about Samsung Galaxy S.
Historicaly, in the last 2 years I owned HTC Tyt'n 2, iPhone 3GS, HTC HD2, and now Galaxy S.
Out of all these devices I have to recognise that the iPhone wad the most user friendly phone I ever have. Unfortunatly the fact my local cellular company doesn't sell it so after a re-softing to 3.1.3 I had to sell it....
I took HD2 because at that moment of time Galaxy S was not available. When it become available in Romania, last week, I quiqly buy it.
And now...... I am totaly dissapointed!
1. I can not use the embeded email client for Exchange and Yahoo accounts.
2. I had to serch and to install a separate Exchange email client, Moxier. It's ok but it has some limitations;
3. I installed the Yahoo email client from Android Market, but simply I can not use it!!! If I open it the CPU is going to 100% and the phone is working ver slow. So practicaly I can not check my Yahoo emails;
4. When I open for the first time an application, I wait arround 15 seconds!?! I saw on the forum that this is normal..... Strange.
And I can continue.....
What's wrong with this phone? My impression is that, simply it is not prepared for mass market delivery! Samsung doesn't care about their customers and it hurry up to launch it.
I saw how Apple react at the anntena signal issue.... Big difference! Samsung doesn't care that Google launch Android 2.2! How can they wait for launching it on their phones, when they have so big troubles? And we are speaking about the highest end phone in their portofolio.
I am still patient, but if I continue to have issues in my daily staff using the phone I 'll change it.
What do you think?
Thanks
Mircea
PS: I am using the official last software
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Yup yup yup, my experience is exactly the same as yours ...i also could not attache files on the email client program, although there is button that says 'attach files".
Yup it took long time for the email to start and download the emails....and everything else is slowed down.....
After having some more issues with the phone and the crappy GPS system.... i opened the map program and the gps initially showed my position on the map and as i moved , it didnt track my position, so after traveling more than 60km, i was still in my original position....
i just got fed up and sold the phone.....
everything about this phone hardware wise, the screen, big internal memory, 720p video recording, iphone style app browsing are very good, but when the basic function is as flawed as this, it just doesnt cut it....

K9 can attach files though. Just drop the stock mail client and half your problems are gone.

Huh?
Samsung Galaxy S doesn't support Exchange accounts???
Yes it does, I have one setup right here!
Do you guys have different firmware????

I cant help but to look a little suspiciously at some of the threads that have been started lately. There are a couple things that need to be fixed but the problems are not nearly has huge as they are made out to be. Not once did i have to wait 15 seconds for an ap to open. In fact after installing autokiller on the stock firmware the phone has been great with the excepton of the gps. The gps usually gets a lock quickly but it often loses connection for about 15 seconds or so making it impractical to use as a turn by turn solution. Driving for 60 miles with no lock is ridiculous, you are making things up or your phone is broken.
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I agree Dakine, note how he did once have an iphone. There is already a thread started for the iphone fanboys attacking the Samsung Galaxy.
Yes i have a few issues with my phone, only minor ones but you show me an absolutely perfect smartphone without one glitch and i guess we can then shut XDA down and all buy that one. It ain't gonna happen
I reckon someone's got an iphone 4 and because they can't use it they spend their time trolling other phone users with ridiculous remarks like 15 seconds to open an app?? i can choose to fire up any app and i don't wait no more than 6 seconds. Use a task killer to clean up the back ground and that time drops even further. Even with the problems i am still totally happy with this phone
Either someone had a very faulty phone which is possible (in which case send it back) or you have an iphone 4 on the desk (not in your hand because it won't work )

Maybe hire goons from iphone.
How well did apple handled the signal issues? first they start by telling you that you are holding it wrong. Then until more fact comes out that the problem are design defects they decided to offer users cheap case rather than refunds.
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sjdean said:
Huh?
Samsung Galaxy S doesn't support Exchange accounts???
Yes it does, I have one setup right here!
Do you guys have different firmware????
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yeh, i had no probs setting up my Exchange account straight out of the box.

Hello guys,
I see that finally I succeded to open your interest with my thread. I already opened 2 thread regarding my issues but I got few answers.
It seems that, speaking about iPhone in this Forum, everybody become a litle bit nervos.
Anyway answering to kcharng and stickfinger I am not an iPhone boy or something simillar. I spent some money for Galaxy S! Do you think I am stupid to spend money senseless!?!?!
Anyway I got some hints from thes answers:
1. Obviously Galaxy S has an issue with the Exchange client. What I don't understand is why some phone's are working without any problem (I have coleagues which own GAlaxy S working with this feature) and other not! What can be different....
2. I will try K9 email client. I see that it has good referencies;
3. I will start to use an Auto Task Killer program. Now I am using Advanced Task Killer but it seems it is not so eficient. Can I get some referencies about an Auto Task Killer program and how this is working?
And one more thing: finally these devices should help you in your job and also bring you more fun, and not bringing you all the time issues to be solved....
I can not belive that, related to Exchange client, an Windows Mobile 6.5(which finally is a ****ty OS....) can work so easily with any email server!!!
Thanks guys for your answers,
BR,
Mircea

mirceal said:
Hello guys,
I see that finally I succeded to open your interest with my thread. I already opened 2 thread regarding my issues but I got few answers.
It seems that, speaking about iPhone in this Forum, everybody become a litle bit nervos.
Anyway answering to kcharng and stickfinger I am not an iPhone boy or something simillar. I spent some money for Galaxy S! Do you think I am stupid to spend money senseless!?!?!
Anyway I got some hints from thes answers:
1. Obviously Galaxy S has an issue with the Exchange client. What I don't understand is why some phone's are working without any problem (I have coleagues which own GAlaxy S working with this feature) and other not! What can be different....
2. I will try K9 email client. I see that it has good referencies;
3. I will start to use an Auto Task Killer program. Now I am using Advanced Task Killer but it seems it is not so eficient. Can I get some referencies about an Auto Task Killer program and how this is working?
And one more thing: finally these devices should help you in your job and also bring you more fun, and not bringing you all the time issues to be solved....
I can not belive that, related to Exchange client, an Windows Mobile 6.5(which finally is a ****ty OS....) can work so easily with any email server!!!
Thanks guys for your answers,
BR,
Mircea
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You cannot believe that a MICROSOFT OS works with MICROSOFT exchange easily?
/facepalm
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If you use yahoo, the sgs is not for you... lol
Been using my sgs for a month now, and love it. Just rooted it and been using launcher pro from day one. Also a good task killer makes a big dif. Using it for sat nav have been a pleasure aswell. No signal problems here.
Using the app called auto memory cleaner. Works out of the box.
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I have had the Galaxy S (vibrant) about three days, but have used it a lot.
First, as a behold 2 owner, I know that Samsung is a crappy company when it comes to support. If you are not willing to root and play with your phone, then I would def not go with Samsung. That said, they also make their phones the hardest to root. As I am sure the developers on this site are figuring out if they hadn't already.
I did decide to purchase this because of the phone already being rooted, I figured the community would have froyo on it within a month or two. Either way, I really like this phone.
I have not had any of the issues posted. A tad bit of lag when opening games, but other than that, even apps load instantly.
In short:
Samsung = Crap
Galaxy S = Best phone out with horrid customizations to android and firmware altogether.

I'd advise you not to base your opinion upon the expirience with the samsung galaxy i7500.
Since it's release, samsung already released 3 firmware updates, IN ONE MONTH.
They're working very hard to change their poor public image about software support.
I think it'd be wise to see what diraction this is going in before starting to judge them, and especially before stating stupid stuff like "Samsung=Crap"

regarding Exchange... i have a windows mobile phone, and not even itself works all that great with exchange
ironically enough, if i use gmail as my exchange server, everything works wonderfully.
now back to SGS, i'm quite confortable with K9 it works just fine and i can attach files
i think what you need to do, is to configure the "lagfix" that people has been talking about, that will solve half of your problem regarding speed
i'll also suggest to upgrade to the latest firmware

Omfg fed up of reading this bull

Hi guys,
Thanks for the hint with K9. It's exactly what I need for my acciunts from Yahoo, Hotmail and Gmail.
Mircea
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Exchange Invites

I've been using an iPhone for the past couple of years and I thought I would try SGS so I can see how Android would act as a replacement for the iPhone.
I've been using it as my main phone for the past few days and there has been some pros and cons that I have come across over the iPhone but it has been mostly cons.
However, I think I have come across a show stopper for me which only became apparent last night when I received an exchange invite.
Don't know if I'm doing something wrong but there does not appear to be any way to accept/decline/tentative a calendar invite.
Someone posted in another thread that this is not an issue with HTC handsets. Also had the recommendation to use a third party apps (Touchdown) which I want to avoid.
Anyway to get the same functionality as the HTC handsets?

Touchdown was among my first few applications i installed after getting the phone.
i did my research well ahead of time of buying the phone.
there's no other way without that software, K9 is the next best thing, but it's not compatible with Exchange/Outlook features.

Mini review of BQ Aquaris E4.5 Ubuntu Edition

Greetings from Germany!
I received my Aquaris Ubuntu phone yesterday, 19.03.2015. Needless to say I was excited but also wasn't expecting much since it's the new kid on the block.
I want to be clear that the cons that I point out only reflect my opinion and in no way should they be construed as an attack on Canonical or a diminishment on their attempts to break into the mobile space.
I've been a linux user since 2006 and an ubuntu user since version 8.04 and while I wasn't expecting much I still wanted to support Canonical's efforts by purchasing their first unit that they offered to us end users.
I was a power Android user for 4 years before I switched to the Nokia N9 for a year and then to the Blackberry Z30 for the past year. I'm partial to gesture based OSs hence why I use and enjoy BB10OS so I was stoked to learn that Ubuntu Touch is a gesture based OS.
First the pros:
1. Love the UI and the simplicity of it. Reading the Help app and swiping N,S,E,W pretty much gets you up and running.
2. Idea of Scopes and how they're implemented. When I first read about it I wasn't impressed...after seeing it in person I really like it.
3. There's just under a 1000 apps/scopes in the store and I've found quite a bit of good stuff already....travel, public transport, translate, online shopping, social, etc
Granted, alot of the "apps" open mobile versions of websites but I've also installed genuine, native apps. The mobile websites don't bother me but that is a subjective thing.
Now the cons:
1. Contacts and calendar sync is Google only...no option to set up a Carddav or Caldav servers.
2. No built in email client
In regards to #1, this is in my view a huge mistake. I made a conscious decision a year ago to completely move away from Google services. I use Memotoo for contacts and calendar. Why in god's name Canonical would make everything Google centric relegates the phone to a "neat toy". They're essentially dictating what services I have to have in order to use their product. Bewildering to say the least since this is linux. We're not talking about proprietary standards here either...Carddav and Caldav are free to use and implement. No work even needs to be done on their end as syncevolution is a finished and complete product.
Point #2, WTF are they thinking? Remember how much flak Blackberry took for not including a native client in the Playbook? Canonical should be hammered in the same way for releasing a mobile phone without email capabilities. The only options in the store are webapps for once again, Google, Yahoo and an email client, Dekko, that just offers the same thing as the webapps but is a genuine native app...however, no IMAP or POP capabilities. You can also forget about Exchange support. I think that is a pipe dream at this stage. In regards to Exchange support, I have no problem paying for this as I don't expect that to come for free.
While I wasn't expecting much and was already prepared to not have many things that I do with Blackberry I was left scratching my head with what was left out as these are very big things to leave out...these are open, non proprietary standards (Caldav, Carddav, IMAP, POP).
If you rely on google services then you'll enjoy the full experience of Ubuntu Touch and I highly recommend you take the plunge...if not, then you're left out in the cold for now. Hopefully in the next 6-12 months Canonical or the community will have these things ironed out.
For now my Ubuntu phone is going in the drawer and I'm going back to my Z30. I'm a service rep and I have to be able to call and email clients when I'm in the field and be able to email and communicate with the home office hence why I need contact sync, email and calendar support via my employer and Memotoo. Without these basic necessities the phone is useless for me.
Best Regards,
sb74

Well it is Linux, surely u can just install what you need.
personally I like using mutt for emails across all distros, but should be easy to install a arm pkg for another client you'd like or get involved with software developement?
Im not a massive fan of google but contact sync is ok since I'm coming from android.

For CardDav/Cal Dav I think somebody just needs to implement an OnlineAccounts provider for your service, the same as how the Google provider does it.
Dekko works fine with IMAP, though not POP (the core of Dekko is Trojita, which is IMAP only). It is not developed by Canonical and is currently in the middle of some pretty big changes, but ultimately it's the OEM who decides which apps to ship by default.
BTW, if you don't have it already, get the Forum Browser app to read and post here ?
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BQ aquaris ubuntu E5 and whatsapp
is there anyone who could tell me if i can get whatsapp going on my device. its running ubuntu 14.0

thanks to snowboarder74 for this informative review.
now, half a year later, i would be interested in getting a ubuntu phone.
what do you think? esp. as to the cons #1 and #2 pointed out in the original post?

Anyone know if these issues are still valid?

No native whatsapp client yet
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is there anyone who could tell me if i can get whatsapp going on my device. its running ubuntu 14.0
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Sorry, we're into OTA-13 now and we still don't have it. Also, I don't think we will have a client in the near future. Some have suggested Whatsapp web but that is not the best given the ease we have as using on other platforms.
As a suggestion, you can use Telegram, which is available on almost all mobile platforms under the sun. Of course, it is up to you :angel: