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I've never used a Nandroid backup to recover everything. I usually just stick with Titanium Backup. Lets say I decide to replace my TF because of light bleed. Can I recover from a Nandroid backup I created on my first TF? Will the backup from the old device work on the new device or are these backups tied to a specific serial number?
sigh... The only time anyone answers my questions is when I hijack someone else's thread and ask it when it's unrelated.
Its generally not a good idea to use nandroid backups across devices. You could muck some things up. Titanium backup would be a better way to go.
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I'm not an expert by any means, perhaps someone with more knowledge will make sure that I'm correct or wrong here?
My understanding is that a nandroid will take an exact image of your device at that given point in time and it'll create a checksum for the backup, so as long as the backup and the checksum match and your devices hardware is the same I can't see a problem restoring to an identical machine.
That's all presuming that you've got the new device rooted and have CWM on it and that you have copied the clockworkmod backup/restore folder to your SD card/PC.
Edit: I should have clarified what exactly it is that you want to back up, if it's just apps and their settings then I'd go for Titanium too. Doesn't your Google account backup and restore apps too?
Nandroid backups do work across devices, and if you really wanted, you could restore them on new devices. Not the best idea, but it is possible.
If you use a nandroid backup, I would install the same rom as the first, then advance restore data only
I've spent 2 hours reading this forum and there are a lot of assumptions in all the posts in here. I'd simply like to start mucking around with my new Nook color and want to back it up before doing any thing else.
Strangely, this step is emphasised in most threads - "Step 1: BACK UP!" yet nobody explains how to do this on a VIRGIN, UNROOTED Nook. I'm totally familiar with CWM and Nandroid and Titanium Backup etc. but I don't know how to back up virgin Nook before I do anything else. So:
1) Can I back up my Nook Color before I root it? (If not, why do so many threads tell me to back it up before I start rooting??) If I can, how?
I want to back it up so that if/when I want to restore the device back to how it is right now (i.e. I turned it on, entered my B&N login and p/w, timezone, and wireless config)
A link to an existing thread would be great - I've tried but can't find this simple step.
The only things you can backup without rooting are "Unlocked" applications, and your data.
I honestly rooted my Nook before I did anything else, so I'm not sure if the applications I have used on my non-rooted phones will work on a stock Nook Color, but I used Astro File Manager to back up my applications, and just made sure my data was saved to an SD card.
I would recommend using the method listed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1061523 to backup your stock ROM. The beautiful thing about the Nook is that you can run a "Rooted" ROM from an SD card, and once you pull it, the NC boots off of the internal memory again!
Then, you can follow the guides to permanently root your Nook, or you can stick with SD card ROMs. The wonderful thing is that it's actually very hard to "Brick" the Nook and make it completely unusable, so you can usually recover even if something goes horribly wrong.
Once you're running a rooted ROM, you can use the "ClockWork Mod" recovery to do a "Nandroid" backup. A Nandroid will restore everything, so it's useful whenever you're making changes, switching ROMs, or doing anything that might be "risky". Which is why everyone always says "Backup!"
Hopefully this makes a little more sense to you now.
If you want a Perfect Backup Image of your Nook Color's Unrooted/Hacked state there's only one way I can reccomend.
-Follow verygreen's Guide for Burning CM7 to a MicroSD
-Boot into CM7
-Attach your Nook to your PC
-Make sure ADB is setup properly for use with your Nook
-Now use the Following ADB command
Code:
adb pull /dev/block/mmcblk0 NookColorBackup.img
-Now wait
This should make a perfect image of your Nook Color. When you want to restore use the following command
Code:
adb push NookColorBackup.img /dev/block/mmcblk0
If you have any questions please PM me and I'll post the Reply here as I don't have time currently to sift through all of my Subscriptions to check for Replies. I'll also be unreachable from 7/17 to 7/24.
I hope this helps.
EDIT: The advantage to my method over the above guy's method, is that this doesn't require an 8gb+ card and it copies the Image directly to the PC where you Ultimately want the Backup anyway. Though it's up to you to decide which way you prefer.
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I just got a nook and I'm using 1gb_clockwork-3.2.0.1-eyeballer: http://www.techerrata.com/android/teamwin/1gb_clockwork-3.2.0.1-eyeballer.zip
I put it in, rebooted and I'm in clockwork. I did a backup. Is that good enough?
Gotta copy it to the PC. Put the sd card in the PC or use the OSes built in usb mount feature. copy the /clockworkmod/backups folder.
Sizzlechest said:
I just got a nook and I'm using 1gb_clockwork-3.2.0.1-eyeballer: http://www.techerrata.com/android/teamwin/1gb_clockwork-3.2.0.1-eyeballer.zip
I put it in, rebooted and I'm in clockwork. I did a backup. Is that good enough?
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Should be good enough.
Make sure you save it somewhere.
Hello:
I've a Nook Simple Touch (1.0.0) rooted with touchnooter 1.6.24 and I'd like to know if I may be able to update to 1.0.1.
I'm not on the US and (as far as I know) the update will happen only if and when I do it manually: copy the ZIP, paste it in the NOOK drive from a PC and so forth...
Should I, should I not? Will I 'brick' my nook or it depends... on what, exactly?
Awaiting your kind reply,
Sebastian Armas
Avid reader, Spanish Interactive Fiction Author
Sebastian,
I was pretty much in the same situation as you: 1.0.0 and rooted. I installed the update via download from BN. I had to reroot it using touchnooter 1.6.24 again, and it went pretty fine (it looked on rooted forever screen during root, but I rebooted and it went fine the 2nd time).
But if you are using non-bn reading apps, I don't see much advantage on updating. After a couple of months, I was not able to use market on my computer to select apps for later download on the nook - it showed that I had no device, and a few weeks ago, market stopped working. I don't know if it would have happened if I had 1.0.0.
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Should I, should I not? Will I 'brick' my nook or it depends... on what, exactly?
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There's no reason not to do the update.
Some people have experienced problems with updating a TouchNootered NST from 1.0.0 to 1.0.1
Did you take a backup before TouchNooter? If so restore the backup before updating and then just reapply TouchNooter.
If not, you might wanna try a factory restore and possibly a factory reset before updating.
Factory Restore: (Restores your system back to basics, almost..)
Interrupt boot 8 times by long pressing power button (10s) as soon as you see the screen flicker.
Or just boot the nookRestore image if you don't want the hassle.
Factory Reset: (Wipes your data)
Power on your NST then press and hold bottom left and right buttons as soon as you see the screen flicker.
If you're doing the above, then also take your time to make a backup before rooting again
Nook Simple Touch Rooted with touchnooter 1.6.24 and B&N Updates
OK... Thanks to both of you for your quick reply.
If I'm reading this properly, if I want to use the B&N 1.0.1 update, I'd better:
Unroot de NST
Update de NST 1.0.0 to 1.0.1
Root the NST 1.0.1 with TouchNooter 1.6.24 after updating successfully
That said, if I do a Factory Restore (with or without the handy nookRestore image), what will happen to my NST's registration and Shelve data? Loose it too?
Awaiting your kind reply,
Sebastian Armas
Avid reader, Spanish Interactive Fiction Author
sarmasm said:
OK... Thanks to both of you for your quick reply.
That said, if I do a Factory Restore (with or without the handy nookRestore image), what will happen to my NST's registration and Shelve data? Loose it too?
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System Restore will not wipe your data.
System Reset will wipe most, if not all of your settings, apps, etc..
Just plug your NST and copy the folder that holds your library, then copy it back to your NST after all the updates etc. are done.
Re-registering your NST is as easy as providing your B&N user/pass.
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ros87 said:
System Restore will not wipe your data.
System Reset will wipe most, if not all of your settings, apps, etc..
Just plug your NST and copy the folder that holds your library, then copy it back to your NST after all the updates etc. are done.
Re-registering your NST is as easy as providing your B&N user/pass.
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Cristal clear!
So, now it's only a matter of gathering the needed files (and my courage, let's be honest) to actually do it ;-)
Again, thank you all for your help and sound advice.
Very gratefully yours,
Sebastián Armas
Avid reader, Spanish Interactive Fiction Author
Nook Simple Touch Rooted with touchnooter 1.6.24 and B&N Updates
BTW, is there any NST root on the works that is "any B&N update" compatible?
Just a thought...
Sebastián Armas
Avid reader, Spanish Interactive Fiction Author
sarmasm said:
BTW, is there any NST root on the works that is "any B&N update" compatible?
Just a thought...
Sebastián Armas
Avid reader, Spanish Interactive Fiction Author
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While it would be possible to make a root method that would survive a 1.0.0 -> 1.0.1 update, it's not possible to know what system files will be replaced by a future update and thus trying to make something like that is probably just a waste of time
Nook Simple Touch Rooted with touchnooter 1.6.24 and B&N Updates
ros87 said:
While it would be possible to make a root method that would survive a 1.0.0 -> 1.0.1 update, it's not possible to know what system files will be replaced by a future update and thus trying to make something like that is probably just a waste of time
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I see: it figures, indeed.
Well, then: besides updating my NST, I'll be looking then for news on the (I suppose) alternative to TouchNooter; that is, having a NST root booting from a SD card (it that's possible on NST)
Gratefully,
Sebastián Armas
Avid reader, Spanish Interactive Fiction Author
What happens if I do a system reset and a restore on a 1.0.1? Do I get back to pristine 1.0.1, or back to 1.0.0? Or somewhere in between?
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What happens if I do a system reset and a restore on a 1.0.1? Do I get back to pristine 1.0.1, or back to 1.0.0? Or somewhere in between?
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A Factory Restore should send your system back to 1.0.0
It doesn't wipe your settings, data etc, to do that you need to do a Factory Reset.
Depending on what's modified a NST might never get back to "pristine" state with Restore/Reset.
This is why I repeatedly tell people to take a backup before "rooting".
That's a little too late for me. The mess is already done. Instruction for backup only showed up a couple of days after I rooted.
But I hope that the backup of a little bit messed up nook is better than no backup at all, I guess.
And I'll do it anyway. In order to restore market, mostly. All market substitutes didn't help at all. And as I've done a backup with Titanium backup, I think I'll be able to restore apps in no time.
ros87 said:
Just plug your NST and copy the folder that holds your library, then copy it back to your NST after all the updates etc. are done.
Re-registering your NST is as easy as providing your B&N user/pass.
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What folder holds the library? Is it in the nook RAM or in the SD Card?
Awaiting your kind reply,
Sebastián Armas
This weekend my Nook Simple Touch with Glowlight has begun losing track of the status of the light. Turning the light on works fine by all means and the light works normally. After you exit the Glowlight dialog, if you go back in to adjust the intensity of the light or turn it back off, it indicates that the light is "off" even when it is "on". At this point, in order to do anything, I have to check the "on" box again before I can change the intensity of the light or turn it off.
The device is rooted using my own combination of "NookManager" and "Tweaked Modded ROM". I have not made any changes to the device in the last month
Has anyone run across this before? Is there a solution? .
@David0226,
That is so interesting that you're having that problem, because I'm having a similar one! Thread: A minor bug/problem?
I haven't currently come across a fix, but I'm working on it. I'll let you know when/if I find one.
I know from several different threads where using sqlite is mentioned that the Nook saves certain pieces of information in database files. Perhaps the database that saves glowlight status is corrupt on both of our Nooks. While our issues appear to be exactly the opposite of each others, they essentially are the same. The Nook is losing track of glowlight status.
Perhaps somehow rebuilding the correct database would fix the issue. The problem is I don't know which database nor how to rebuild it.
Perhaps Renate could help if this is the case as she seems to appear in a large number of the threads relating to Nook databases.
If I don't get an answer by tomorrow, I think I will return my Nook to stock and follow Renate's Minimal rooting - back to basics thread. I really should be able to do everything I actually use with just basic root access.
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I know from several different threads where using sqlite is mentioned that the Nook saves certain pieces of information in database files. Perhaps the database that saves glowlight status is corrupt on both of our Nooks. While our issues appear to be exactly the opposite of each others, they essentially are the same. The Nook is losing track of glowlight status.
Perhaps somehow rebuilding the correct database would fix the issue. The problem is I don't know which database nor how to rebuild it.
Perhaps Renate could help if this is the case as she seems to appear in a large number of the threads relating to Nook databases.
If I don't get an answer by tomorrow, I think I will return my Nook to stock and follow Renate's Minimal rooting - back to basics thread. I really should be able to do everything I actually use with just basic root access.
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Is one problem with the GlowLight really worth all of the data you have accumulated since you first rooted?
I mean, I know it's not really my business, but I don't think I'd go so far as to factory reset and reroot if I came across that problem.
Just my personal opinion. I do hope we can get a little help from @[color=green][u]Renate NST[/u][/color] in here.
Actually, 95% of the data I have accumulated since rooting is on an SDcard. So after re-rooting, I can simply put the SDCard back in and my data will be there.
One reason I am considering this is that since rooting the device, I have installed many apps and edited many system files without keeping a good record of what I have done. So I really don't know where I am at. If the Nook ran on Windows I would have had to re-install months ago.
I have found that there is really very little I actually use. Lightning Launcher and ALReader is pretty much it. I have tablets, so I don't need/want to turn my Nook into one.
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Actually, 95% of the data I have accumulated since rooting is on an SDcard. So after re-rooting, I can simply put the SDCard back in and my data will be there.
One reason I am considering this is that since rooting the device, I have installed many apps and edited many system files without keeping a good record of what I have done. So I really don't know where I am at. If the Nook ran on Windows I would have had to re-install months ago.
I have found that there is really very little I actually use. Lightning Launcher and ALReader is pretty much it. I have tablets, so I don't need/want to turn my Nook into one.
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Ah, then there's the difference between you and I. I don't have any other tablets, so that's why I use my NTG as a full tablet.
A good tip I'd recommend to you, if you're currently doing any "risky" modding (like me), make a fresh Noogie backup once a week or so. That way, if you do soft-brick my Nook, you can really restore to the way you were recently.
I typically use NookManager to make a backup before each "risky" mod. If you connect your Nook to your computer via USB while booted into NookManager, you can see the backup partition and copy off the backup files. I then rename them so that I can copy them back and restore from them if needed. I find restoring using NookManager much easier that restoring a Noogie backup.
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I typically use NookManager to make a backup before each "risky" mod. If you connect your Nook to your computer via USB while booted into NookManager, you can see the backup partition and copy off the backup files. I then rename them so that I can copy them back and restore from them if needed. I find restoring using NookManager much easier that restoring a Noogie backup.
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Yeah, I used to use NookManager for backing up, too, but after looking at how the Noogie method vs. the NookManager method works, I discovered that the Noogie method actually makes a more complete backup than the NookManager method.
Plus, for some reason whenever I try to use the NookManager method, I get "Backup failed", so I can't do it anyway.
I bit the bullet and restored to factory default and followed Renate's Minimal rooting - back to basics instructions. It did take care of my glowlight problem.
I discovered that for my situation this is a perfect method. It allows me to make changes and install apps using ADB over WIFI, yet essentially I only have 'root' when using ADB. I can make all the changes I want over the ADB connection but nothing has root permissions if I (or one of my family) am using the Nook "normally". Thus, I have less chance of messing anything up during "normal" operation.
(I also carefully documented everything I did so I now know where I am at.)
Hello!
I have an unrooted version of Nook Simple Touch, firmware 1.2.1 and I would like to back-up my notes, highlights and bookmarks. Is there anyway to do so?
If I root it, will I loose all this data?
Also, please give me a link for a good rooting guide.
You have several options. NookManager will allow you to perform a backup of the current configuration and provides an easy way to root, check this link for more info... NookManager - graphical rooter for 1.2.x and beyond.
You can also find instructions on how to make a complete backup (and exact 2GB image of your Nook) in the Backup/Restore N2E
You can also root using the information in the Minimal rooting - back to basics thread, which requires much more technical skill, but allows you more control over what gets installed.
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You have several options. NookManager will allow you to perform a backup of the current configuration and provides an easy way to root, check this link for more info... NookManager - graphical rooter for 1.2.x and beyond.
You can also find instructions on how to make a complete backup (and exact 2GB image of your Nook) in the Backup/Restore N2E
You can also root using the information in the Minimal rooting - back to basics thread, which requires much more technical skill, but allows you more control over what gets installed.
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To follow on to whate David said, you can actually control what gets installed in NookManager by editing the .img before you write it to the microSD card.
Just a thought.
Thanks guys for your replies!
What do you think about this tutorial? http://geekanddummy.com/how-to-rooting-the-nook-simple-touch/
I'm asking because you can install Android v 2.1 on your Nook.
If I root it, afterwards I will be able to access my data? I mean, will remain all the saved notes and adnotations from a given book?
Milkman12 said:
Thanks guys for your replies!
What do you think about this tutorial? http://geekanddummy.com/how-to-rooting-the-nook-simple-touch/
I'm asking because you can install Android v 2.1 on your Nook.
If I root it, afterwards I will be able to access my data? I mean, will remain all the saved notes and adnotations from a given book?
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That rooting method should work fine. However, you should know that your Nook already has Android 2.1 on it - that's the stock version (B&N just modified it for their own use). You don't need to change your Android version, nor should you.
And yes, unless you accidentally brick your Nook, you will be able to access all the data you had before you rooted.
Many thanks to you Sir thenookieforlife3!
How can I access my back-up data on the PC? Is there any chance to open it with software like Word, Notepad etc?
I mean my highlighted texts and notes.
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How can I access my back-up data on the PC? Is there any chance to open it with software like Word, Notepad etc?
I mean my highlighted texts and notes.
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There is not a way to back up that specific data alone, but if you make a full device backup, your notes and highlights will be included.
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There is not a way to back up that specific data alone, but if you make a full device backup, your notes and highlights will be included.
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And how can I view it on the PC?
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And how can I view it on the PC?
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You can't, basically. The only thing you could do with a device backup if you made one is restore it back to your NST if you brick it.
Bugger.
Anyway, thank you very much for your helpful answers!
Milkman12 said:
Bugger.
Anyway, thank you very much for your helpful answers!
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Not a problem - it's what I'm on XDA for.