I've never used a Nandroid backup to recover everything. I usually just stick with Titanium Backup. Lets say I decide to replace my TF because of light bleed. Can I recover from a Nandroid backup I created on my first TF? Will the backup from the old device work on the new device or are these backups tied to a specific serial number?
sigh... The only time anyone answers my questions is when I hijack someone else's thread and ask it when it's unrelated.
Its generally not a good idea to use nandroid backups across devices. You could muck some things up. Titanium backup would be a better way to go.
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I'm not an expert by any means, perhaps someone with more knowledge will make sure that I'm correct or wrong here?
My understanding is that a nandroid will take an exact image of your device at that given point in time and it'll create a checksum for the backup, so as long as the backup and the checksum match and your devices hardware is the same I can't see a problem restoring to an identical machine.
That's all presuming that you've got the new device rooted and have CWM on it and that you have copied the clockworkmod backup/restore folder to your SD card/PC.
Edit: I should have clarified what exactly it is that you want to back up, if it's just apps and their settings then I'd go for Titanium too. Doesn't your Google account backup and restore apps too?
Nandroid backups do work across devices, and if you really wanted, you could restore them on new devices. Not the best idea, but it is possible.
If you use a nandroid backup, I would install the same rom as the first, then advance restore data only
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Think this may be my first post...thanks to all the devs out there for making things happen! Consider myself an above average user, though I don't really have the knowledge to code a ROM (though I'm sure I could tackle it if I put my mind to it). I just very good at following instructions and can reasonably trouble shoot if things go wrong.
Tried doing a search for this & came up a little blank...could have been I didn't know exactly what to search for. In any case, my question is about nandroid backups. Currently on a CDMA Hero "with Google" rooted & running RegawMOD v2.0.1...PRI 1.70_003...PRL 60663...RA-heroc-v1.6.2 recovery. My wife's phone (for all intents & purposes) is exactly the same, however, I'm the technical one here and have spent a lot of time tweaking my phone. Once I get my phone exactly how I want it, could I flash my nandroid to her Hero to save time in tweaking hers? Or is the nandroid backup tied to one unique piece of hardware/phone #/google log-in?
Im pretty sure that's how droid users share roms, via nandroid.
u can do it, i have done it...a while back the first week i had my hero i bricked it, but i had a nandroid backup. After i got a new phone i rooted it and restored with a nandroid backup worked perfect.
Thanks...and just one more question. I was actually doing a Google search on this one & couldn't find one concrete, concise, answer. In the recovery image, I have 3 different backup choices (Nand, Nand+ext, BART). It's my understanding that Nandroid vs. BART is essentially 2 different ways of doing the same thing...with the ext portion being useful if you are using a2sd (which I'm not using yet). The first choice of Nand backup should make a snapshot of my entire system (ROM, apps, settings, etc...everything on the phone itself, not installed to SD), right?
Ultimately, what I'm trying to accomplish is making a snapshot of my entire phone, mirroring it onto my wife's and then doing some minor tweaks to make it her's (i.e. change the google log-in to her's).
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n/m, found it in the root cheatsheet. Nand = onboard system, Nand+ext = onboard system + a2sd.
Still not exactly sure what the benefit of BART is, though.
yeah your correct, bart is just a alternative....personally i always use nandroid. Just use nandroid, make a nandroid backup then mount your sd to your computer. Open the nandroid folder, then you will see something like HT.... folder open it. Then you will see all your different nandroids, copy the one of your choice to your desktop. Mount your wife's go to the same place paste the folder there. Boot into recovery home+power nandroid restore tada you done go in change the settings you need to (gmail account)
Does nandroid backup also restore the PRI and PRL or does it leave that untouched?
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Does nandroid backup also restore the PRI and PRL or does it leave that untouched?
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It should leave it untouched. Though it has a chance to change your pri. I dont know much about it. As long as you flash the most current roms we have know, it will leave it untouched.
Hello everyone,
I'm not the type of person to ask for the answer and get the quick way out...I like to try and research, read and read more before asking for help.
Here is the problem:
Before I flashed my phone...I plugged in the usb and copied all folders and files on the SD card to a folder on my pc, just incase.
Then I followed the instruction to install a custom rom...I used Iced Glacier. I rebooted the phone and the Iced rom worked...after checking out the phone, to see what the Iced rom was all about, I realized I didnt use Ti to make a backup of all apps.
Here is the question:
Can I use the folders/files I copied to the pc, to add the apps back to the phone?
Thanks in advance for any help,
BK
Short answer is no...
If you had backup enabled with Google, your apps should auto install when you log into the market. Most of your data will be lost though...
Did you make a nandroid backup of your ROM? If you did, you could now backup your new install, restore your old system backup, use Titanium to backup everything from your old system backup, then switch back to your new install and use Titanium to restore everything...?
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First I want to thank you for taking out the time. I truly appreciate the help.
I read and re-read what you wrote...I kinda of understand but am not sure if the correct steps to take. When you get a chance, can you please try and explain further.
Thanks so much,
BK
What he is asking is did you make a backup of your stock rom before flashing ice-glacier? If so just go back into rom manager and restore your backup. After restoring, personally i prefer my backup root, because it backs up everything texts, bookmarks ect qnd it is one click for that stuff and one click for all your apps with their data instead of clicking once for each app. After doing your backup reflash I-G and redownload my backup root, run it and everything will be there
That's exactly what I meant...
Also, Titanium has a batch option in the menu, so you can one click backup and restore with Titanium also (you have to have the paid version for it to be effective, though)...
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thanks for the info...but have another question related to this.
I did make a backup before flashing...but here is the problems I'm trying to understand.
From what Im trying to gather about using custom roms, is that it does not install any bloatware.
So, if that is true and I use a app like backup root...will this just install every single app that was on the phone.
Im just trying to wrap my brain around this, sorry if it is very newbish
BK
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From what Im trying to gather about using custom roms, is that it does not install any bloatware.
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Depends on your definition of "bloat". Every ROM contains a collection of system applications.
Keep in mind. Nandroid backups are standalone system images. Titanium Backup and MyBackup and all the other Android apps that do backups are individual application backups. They often can do bulk restores, but that is not always desired or necessary.
You will find you will want both types of backup: Nandroid, and application.
You can also selectively backup and restore apps, so you get to chose what stays, and what goes...
Play around with Titanium and My Backup, and see what they are capable of...
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Is there any 100% definitive way to take my phone the way it is now and back it up like a disc image to be restored later on without problems including apps in the right place? I'd like to do this to try out another ROM for a few hours. I just want it to all go back the way it was when I'm done. Is there any backup that will do that flawlessly?
And then is there any way to set Titanium so it doesn't ask you to confirm EVERY SINGLE app installation?
Thanks!
It's called Nandroid backup, and it's done from recovery.
And about Titanium - yes, there is. Buy a license.
Ok on the nandroid backup. Great.
And with Titanium, I DO have the paid version. I can't find the setting that lets you restore without confirmations..?
hello everybody!!
can someone actually explain to me what is nandroid backup??and how it really works??what is the different with other backup on the market such as titanium backup??
thnxs for your time~
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Nandroid is a backup option that completely backs up your system nand (internal memory), including the ROM, apps, etc. You can restore a nandroid backup and have everything working in case you flash a bad kernel, ROM, or something like that. It is fundamentally different from an app like titanium backup because it is an image of the entire system, not just individual apps and their data.
If you want to make a nandroid backup, flash a CWM recovery image, then when you boot into recovery, there is a "backup and restore" menu option. Backup to create one, restore will restore the entire state of your device from when you made the backup.
Nandroid backup will backup your partition with this output
1.Boot.img-your kernel
2.Recovery.img-your default recovery
3.system.ext4.tar-all ROM file system
4.data.ext4.tar-all data likes apps, your progress
5.cache.ext2.tar- your cache..
So if you use nandroid, is there no need for titanium backup?
What is the sequence of steps if I want to preserve my Google Play downloaded apps and its associated data, but I still want to wipe everything and install a brand new ROM such as CM9?
Would it be:
--make a nandroid backup
--completely nuke everything except the SD card?
--install the new CM9 rom
--restore from nandroid?
Where does titanium backup fit into this scenario?
Thanks
Nandroid backs up your entire rom, apps and their current configuration as is. Titanium Backup is used to backup individual apps.
If you are flashing a rom, always do a Nandroid first; it is your way to get back to your last working system and configuration if flashing messes something up. Think of Nandroid, as being mandatory.
Some then use Titanium Backup to backup an individual app, such as your Email client; then you don't have to reconfigure your Email client with a new rom. I find it to be almost as fast, just to reconfigure individual apps after a wipe and new rom flash. So think of Titanium Backup, as optional.
ok.. great answers.. now the queston becomes..
how to do a nandroid back up? .
is there a special app needed?
thanks....
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ok.. great answers.. now the queston becomes..
how to do a nandroid back up? .
is there a special app needed?
thanks....
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Reading totally helps here as this is written just a few posts above.
teiglin said:
If you want to make a nandroid backup, flash a CWM recovery image, then when you boot into recovery, there is a "backup and restore" menu option. Backup to create one, restore will restore the entire state of your device from when you made the backup.
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Reading totally helps here as this is written just a few posts above.
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thanks for the reminder to re-read the thread once again..
And thanks again for the quote as well....
I will quote this part here..
"If you want to make a nandroid backup, flash a CWM recovery image, then when you boot "
Now my next question is please elaborate on a "CWM recovery image"
Please forgive me for not knowing.. as the OP posted his lack of knowledge as well..
Please DO admonish me as well for asking in HIS thread on what a CWM recovery image is.. and or where to get one and how apply and use it..
I think this is a good thread for those who do not understand as the OP started..
His questions were answered...
So is it safe to move backwards for those who would like to know more about this procedure.
Thanks to all who reply.
All replies are welcomed and encouraged..
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ok.. great answers.. now the queston becomes..
how to do a nandroid back up? .
is there a special app needed?
thanks....
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I can tell you from my experience this (I'm still quite new to Android myself):
Nandroid (a funky concatenation of NAND and ANDROID) means a full IMAGE of your current system. It is like a partition image on Windows, like Acronis TrueImage or Norton Ghost... It backs up everything, your OS, all apps, data, settings etc. BUT you can only restore it as a whole (generally speaking) which means you get back to THIS setup. You can NOT install a new ROM and then restore only the apps!
That's why the best way to do it is to do BOTH! You make a nandroid in case you screw up and "brick" your device during flash, so you can always GO BACK to where you were BEFORE you tried flashing anything and then re-try.
You use Titanium Backup to just back up your APPS and their DATA as well as some important system settings like SMS history, Wifi AP list etc. THAT stuff is "transferable" into a new ROM. Consider that like you are burning CDs with your music and movies etc and then you install a fresh Windows. You have a NEW OS but you get your old DATA back. In this case it includes APPS and their respective data, e.g. game progress, saved documents, settings etc. for every app.
Oh and in order to make that nandroid backup, you need to search for and install "CWM" Clockworkmod Recovery. Now THAT is like a built in recovery partition on Dell or Apple laptops! It is a way to boot into an emergency system by holding down a couple of keys (volume up and power) if your main ROM becomes unbootable! There are lots of threads on here about CWM, where to get it and how to install it. Just DO NOT install the current CWM on a Verizon (SCH-i815) Galaxy Tab 7.7 just yet. We just found a couple of bugs that can prevent you from getting updates. If you have the "international" Tab (P6800 or 6810), you should be good.
Hope this helps bring a little light in the dark. Welcome to Android !!
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thanks for the reminder to re-read the thread once again..
And thanks again for the quote as well....
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Didn't want to offend you, you just asked an answered question.
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Now my next question is please elaborate on a "CWM recovery image"
Please forgive me for not knowing.. as the OP posted his lack of knowledge as well..
Please DO admonish me as well for asking in HIS thread on what a CWM recovery image is.. and or where to get one and how apply and use it..
I think this is a good thread for those who do not understand as the OP started..
His questions were answered...
So is it safe to move backwards for those who would like to know more about this procedure.
Thanks to all who reply.
All replies are welcomed and encouraged..
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CWM recovery means "clock work mod recovery" it is a custom recovery system. You can imagine a recovery system as something like BIOS for pc's. (not true but easier to understand) You can get there by holding volume up button while turning your device on.
So why do you need a custom recovery?
When you get a new android device it has stock recovery system installed which has very limited functionality. If you want to install custom ROMs from your SD card you need to install cwm recovery first. Also you will get ability to do nandroid backup and restore the same. Nandroid backup will copy an exact image of your current system. ROM, apps, configs and so on. You should ALWAYS do a nandroid backup before trying out new ROMs so you can easily switch back if something goes wrong.
Hope I could clear things out for you.
PS: sorry for bad english, it's not my native language
thank you electron..
I DO have the international 6800 that I got from negri..
I routinely swap my ATT sim between this on weekends and my GNote GN7000 during the week,
Using them both on ATT and working great..
Just that I have never flashed anything before on either device..
But I read quite a bit..
I still HAVE NOT got ICS yet on my Note either... Just too scared to pull the trigger..
I must be one of those who need hand-holding walk thru... but I wont ask for that.. not here anyways
repercussions will come down like hell fire..! hahahah
Backup with nandroid equals the image obtained with Norton Ghost / Acronis True Image
Good afternoon,
I've been reading this and other topics on nandroid and I think this is the solution I seek. A friend asked me for help with a project that will donate some tablets (lower-cost devices, probably models the brand GT S 7205 Genesis) for a school of education. He asked my help in order to create a drive "master" which will be configured with a user account that will serve Gmail for sending educational material and a second e-mail account (Hotmail) which students should visit regularly using the default browser to receive Android news and correspond with students from another school that participates in the project.
Since it is not appropriate to provide for children the usernames and passwords of emails, we then create this unity "master" and replicate their content in other units.
My question is whether this backed up with nandroid will copy the user account settings Gmail also logs sessions started with the browser (after all we know that after accessing a site using the standard Android browser, no need to re-enter login / password, unless you log out or erase).
Thanks a lot if I can clarify this question.
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Good afternoon,
I've been reading this and other topics on nandroid and I think this is the solution I seek. A friend asked me for help with a project that will donate some tablets (lower-cost devices, probably models the brand GT S 7205 Genesis) for a school of education. He asked my help in order to create a drive "master" which will be configured with a user account that will serve Gmail for sending educational material and a second e-mail account (Hotmail) which students should visit regularly using the default browser to receive Android news and correspond with students from another school that participates in the project.
Since it is not appropriate to provide for children the usernames and passwords of emails, we then create this unity "master" and replicate their content in other units.
My question is whether this backed up with nandroid will copy the user account settings Gmail also logs sessions started with the browser (after all we know that after accessing a site using the standard Android browser, no need to re-enter login / password, unless you log out or erase).
Thanks a lot if I can clarify this question.
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Nandroid makes an image of your existing system. Everything will be the same as when you made the backup, inkluding gmail accounts, passwords etc.
I think you can use that method the way you mentioned.
Thanks
boelze, thank you for assisting me to clarify this question.
My buddy and I are about to start experementing with custom roms on his Droid X. He accepted the update, and I read how to aquire root using a specific sbf [I have it written down] but I don't want to start till we have a backup of his aps. With Cwm or titanium I don't know how to do this.
Can someone give some advice?
Well, if you have cwm, then you can use the "Nandroid" function to make a complete backup of everything on your device (though there may be some exceptions, you should read up on those). If you are rooted right now, then Titanium Backup would backup all your apps+appdata to a specified location (again, read up on exceptions to those).
I would recommend doing both, just to be extra careful, in case something goes really wrong. And again, do as much research as you can.
Edit: If you have none of those, you should use apps like ASTRO, to back up your apps, though the appdata may or may not be backed up with it.
Hope that helps.
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Well, if you have cwm, then you can use the "Nandroid" function to make a complete backup of everything on your device (though there may be some exceptions, you should read up on those). If you are rooted right now, then Titanium Backup would backup all your apps+appdata to a specified location (again, read up on exceptions to those).
I would recommend doing both, just to be extra careful, in case something goes really wrong. And again, do as much research as you can.
Edit: If you have none of those, you should use apps like ASTRO, to back up your apps, though the appdata may or may not be backed up with it.
Hope that helps.
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I know how to do nandroid backups and I'm very familiar with titanium backup on OTHER devices. Both of those require root. [last I checked]
My understanding is that to root the droid x meaning using fastboot files, which as I understand, will erase your device.
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I know how to do nandroid backups and I'm very familiar with titanium backup on OTHER devices. Both of those require root. [last I checked]
My understanding is that to root the droid x meaning using fastboot files, which as I understand, will erase your device.
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Unfortunately, rooting the device will wipe everything, as you have to flash a whole other rootable firmware.
Search the market for a non root backup app. Any one will do, I recommend trying MyBackup.
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