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Galaxy Tab 7.7

Did you guys see the hands on video yet? 720p SAMOLED+ screen, exynos internal and an external sd slot in a thinner package
I'm not sure if it's the exynos internal or the 3.2 but the rotation and home screen transition looked extremely smooth
http://www.engadget.com/2011/09/01/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-hands-on-video/

I like the size of it. Very portable.
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cdf3 said:
I like the size of it. Very portable.
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i'm more excited about the specs and basic performance it's exhibiting on the video

Screen is way too small. Whats the point of buying this?

5thElement said:
Screen is way too small. Whats the point of buying this?
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Eh, the 7" is a great size for traveling.

i think ill sell my 10" when this comes out, it'll be nice to get off the tegra 2 and get something a little more portable

I'm more interested in the Samsung Galaxy Note for my next phone. I thought anything bigger than 4.5" would be too bit for a phone, but after watching the videos, it seems fine. I guess the thinness and tiny bezel help a lot. Sadly we probably won't see it on US carriers for 6 months.

No Kal-El... no thanks!
What's the point of getting something that will be obsolete a couple of months later. Asus has plans to release a Kal-El tablet this year even.
Besides, I'm getting the Galaxy SII phone with a 4.5" display. 7.7" would be too small of a jump from it.

i just wish the 10.1 would have come with exynos.
and the ppi on those screens!!

I had a Euro Galaxy Tab 7" and while it was very portable. I kept wishing it was bigger when playing games. Especially, when play Order & Chaos. The new 7.7 is tempting but I learned my lesson once already. If I were to switch, the 8.9 would probably be the one for me.
BTW, love the Samsung Note. I wonder which SoC its using? Anyone have the complete specs for it?

It's running the same as the 7.7, we know that haha.
The note sounds sweet! 5.3" super amoled at 1280x800....damn
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Seriously if you already have a smart phone there is no need for a tablet with a screen less than 10".

5thElement said:
Seriously if you already have a smart phone there is no need for a tablet with a screen less than 10".
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Says who? Is it comfortable reading a book on a 3.5-4" screen smartphone? Surfing the full-mode web? Didn't think so.
7" is most likely the sweet spot for portable tablets, and the reason why all e-readers are around that size. The perfect tablet size for me would be 8-9" as well.

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Seriously if you already have a smart phone there is no need for a tablet with a screen less than 10".
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That's bull. My OG Tab is still used every day (though it gets retired the minute I can get my hands on that 7.7), along with my old 4" SGS and my current 4.3" SGS2, and I have a Tab 10.1
Different tools for different jobs.

This looks fantastic! Got the 10.1 myself and while it's awesome, this HD resolution, MircroSD slot, Dual Core etc make it a very appealing device. Form factor is lovely as well and seems an ideal size for traveling. Will see what else pops up at IFA and will await Kal El devices as well.

akarol said:
No Kal-El... no thanks!
What's the point of getting something that will be obsolete a couple of months later.
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No one would ever have a device with this mentality. One has to have gadget nirvana: make your decision based on what's available at that time, then relax and don't worry if it's not the absolute latest thing. Will it still do what you want? Yep! Will it not have that lastest shiny thing that marketing departments want you to think you need in order to not want to hurl yourself off a bridge in envy of others? Maybe not, but who gives a crap.
Kal-el devices will be overshadowed by the next gen processor or integrated GPU or whatever very soon after they are on the market. I'm not saying it's a bad idea to wait a bit for something you think will be better and has a definite launch date. But, to be constantly on edge that whatever device you get will be "obsolete" soon after purchase is kind of a slavish mentality.
I'm reminded of a coworker I had who was putting off buying a digital camera because they kept getting better every six months. So, in 2009 she was still using a dinky 110 film camera.
Anyway, not to rant. But, if we need (need may be too strong a word for tablets) a device then playing the waiting game is as much as a con as it is a pro.

akarol said:
No Kal-El... no thanks!
What's the point of getting something that will be obsolete a couple of months later. Asus has plans to release a Kal-El tablet this year even.
Besides, I'm getting the Galaxy SII phone with a 4.5" display. 7.7" would be too small of a jump from it.
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In my opinion a slightly faster processor in a completely different tablet will not make this tablet obsolete. What makes this tablet so great is so much more than the processor, it's the portable size, 7.89mm thinness, 335g weight, and 7.7 inch Super AMOLED Plus at 1280 x 800 is unheard of. A year ago, even six months ago this screen technology would have been nearly impossible to manufacture/incredibly expensive. Sony used to sell a 7 inch qHD OLED monitor that cost $2,500. Needless to say the display in the 7.7 is a breakthrough to say the least for the future of OLED on larger screens.

I say reward yourself now. When Tegra 3 or better comes out, you upgrade to the newer one & either resell or hand me down gift to someone.

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In my opinion a slightly faster processor in a completely different tablet will not make this tablet obsolete. What makes this tablet so great is so much more than the processor, it's the portable size, 7.89mm thinness, 335g weight, and 7.7 inch Super AMOLED Plus at 1280 x 800 is unheard of. A year ago, even six months ago this screen technology would have been nearly impossible to manufacture/incredibly expensive. Sony used to sell a 7 inch qHD OLED monitor that cost $2,500. Needless to say the display in the 7.7 is a breakthrough to say the least for the future of OLED on larger screens.
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You opinion is demonstrably incorrect. Tegra 3 is 3-4 times as fast as the SoC in the 7.7

5thElement said:
You opinion is demonstrably incorrect. Tegra 3 is 3-4 times as fast as the SoC in the 7.7
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And you've used tegra 3 already haven't you?
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Has the Note killed the 7-inch tablets?

Some reviews show that the Note is able to perform as well as the 7-inch tablets so it looks like the Note will soon replace them.

Gaugerer said:
Some reviews show that the Note is able to perform as well as the 7-inch tablets so it looks like the Note will soon replace them.
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I doubt this highly . Bigger screens will always be better.
We have the resolution, yes - but try playing majesty on the note.
That's just painful. It's too small.
- Frank

I was planning to get 7 inch tab. But not anymore

I have owned and used daily an original galaxy tab 7" since they launched, and I am planning to replace it with a note in a few months. Mainly waiting to see what is happening with them in the United States, but I am also hoping that they will drop at least a little in price by then.
My one complaint about my 7" tab is that it is almost too big to keep in my pockets year round, and if I hope to get a good upgrade, I am certain that the 7.7" will be too big for my pockets, so the note it is.
I still see the mid-size form factor of 7"+ having a following for persons that carry a bag everywhere and prefer the fine balance of screen real estate and mobility that the 7" form factor strikes.

I use my 7" HTC Flyer for school when I'm in Clinical(nursing) It fits really nice in my lab coat, and people recognize it as a tablet/productivity device. If you try and pull out a phone, even a 4" one they will think you are texting or playing around(even though you can do that on a tablet) they just some a stupid perception towards phones vs tablets being out on the floor...Hopefully the Note is big enough to be seen as a tablet. The Flyer is just a tiny tiny bit bigger then what I need it for. I really want to unload my iPhone 4 and just keep a iPod Touch for times when I need those apps....
I plan on replacing my HTC Flyer with the Note myself. I currently use a iPhone 4, HTC Flyer w/pen and a 16gb Wifi iPad. I also have a touchpad, but that mostly sits in it's doc as a clock untill the android build gets to at least beta.
I had a 3g iPad when it came out, so I still have my unlimited plan. I canceled my contract with ATT and changed out my APK on my iPhone so I could run it with my unlimited data only SIM. With the Power of Google Voice and Jailbreak mods, I can use it as a normal phone with data only(talkatone and gv ext) Plus share the internet with my Flyer and wifi iPad that I got in a trade plus cash for my 3g ipad.
I see you can buy Galaxy Note's on ebay already(for a while now actually) but I'm hesitant at this point because I'm not sure my Unlimited data SIM will work in the device for data only. Plus, I'm not ready to go with-out hotspot capability, so I need to wait till we get a custom rom that lets us do that(if the stock ROM does not already have that built in). Plus, from what I understand, there is a chance that ATT may get it with LTE...and that would be worth starting another contract to me!(I doubt they would let me use my unlimited data sim on LTE...that would rock if I could do that!)
Holy crap I went off topic and rambled...
So yeah.

I have the note and an ipad, in my opinion the note will replace 99% of the tasks the ipad does. The larger screen is an issue when viewing media but for everything else the 1280x800 screen on the note is amazing. The pure quality of the samsung hd screen means I won't be looking for another tablet.
Once ice cream sandwich appears it will be the perfect device.
PS if size is the issue then yes it is a big bugger but. So am I.
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iBrummie said:
I have the note and an ipad, in my opinion the note will replace 99% of the tasks the ipad does. The larger screen is an issue when viewing media but for everything else the 1280x800 screen on the note is amazing. The pure quality of the samsung hd screen means I won't be looking for another tablet.
Once ice cream sandwich appears it will be the perfect device.
PS if size is the issue then yes it is a big bugger but. So am I.
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The only time I find I need my iPad is when I need to take notes with the larger on-screen keyboard. I don't see myself upgrading from my iPad 1 till they have the Retina Display. Till then it's only a way to share documents when I need a larger view.

I have replace a HTC Flyer to Note, the display is not much differance,
Don't understand why all Tablet have very big screen outside, make a big device but display is small.
Note is phone style, have a small screen outsides, so it totaly side is small enough for pocket when still keep big enough for display.
Note is all in one for my daily use

vuvan said:
I have replace a HTC Flyer to Note, the display is not much differance,
Don't understand why all Tablet have very big screen outside, make a big device but display is small.
Note is phone style, have a small screen outsides, so it totaly side is small enough for pocket when still keep big enough for display.
Note is all in one for my daily use
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Can the Note be used as a Hot-Spot?

ChodTheWacko said:
Bigger screens will always be better.
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I agree. That's why I would never bother with an ipad or the like.
I have a 26" and a 22" screen ganged in dual mode at home on my pc,
and my phone goes with me everywhere.
I've got no use for anything in between.
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Note is all in one for my daily use
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Ditto.
ipads and tablets seem pointless to me.

Nexus 7 2013 vs iPad Mini 2

Just like the title,which one you would prefer?
What I can see,the big upgrade from Mini 1 to Mini 2 is the display.It is now the so called retina display.But I think Mini 2 will cannibalize iPad Air because the only drawback in Mini 1 is display.

Nexus 7, all the benefits of a small tablet, better than retina screen, and no retarded apple closed garden
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Nothing better than the openness of android, and the possibilities that it can bring.
Plus I love widgets, way more convenient than rows and columns of icons laying on the home screen.
Plus I love swype typing.
Plus I'm a poor college student.

z0phi3l said:
Nexus 7, all the benefits of a small tablet, better than retina screen, and no retarded apple closed garden
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I like android as much as everyone here, but saying the N7 display is better than the apple retina display is just borderline mental...
and why compare something that's 2x the cost? how is that even fair...? If the N7 is $400, I'm pretty sure Google would've crammed better stuff into the tablet to compete with others around the $400 price range.

Well, this is kind of a biased question - most people here will be Nexus 7 fans (you know - we bought one).
That being said...
The cheapest Retina iPad mini is the 16GB WiFi at $400.
The 32 GB Nexus 7 + LTE is $350.
The closest equivalent iPad mini is $630...
That kind of sums it up for me.
I also prefer the N7's smaller size. I can carry it in my jacket pocket. I can't do that with the iPad mini. If I want to carry a bag - I'll carry a full sized tablet.
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I like android as much as everyone here, but saying the N7 display is better than the apple retina display is just borderline mental...
and why compare something that's 2x the cost? how is that even fair...? If the N7 is $400, I'm pretty sure Google would've crammed better stuff into the tablet to compete with others around the $400 price range.
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It's a fair comparison - they're both aimed at the same end users - people who want small, highly portable tablets.
As for the retina display being better - exactly what are your criteria for this? The N7 has a slightly lower DPI than the Retina iPad mini (319 vs 326). The mini has more actual pixels, but it's actually a larger screen (7.9 vs 7.0).
You're also arguing sort of backwards... you're suggesting that if the N7 were more expensive, it would have more in it (and thus be better competition for the iPad mini, I'm assuming). Except that's a weird way to look at it. The N7+LTE already is significantly cheaper than the nearest equivalent Retina iPad mini and offers a similar set of features. But if you drop down to the N7 you get more features - GPS is included.
The CPU in the Retina iPad mini is more powerful, but we've yet to see meaningful benchmarks to show that this translates into anything meaningful for the use. The whole 64bit vs 32bit is mostly smoke at the moment since almost nothing uses it.
And now that Android support BTLE, more and more companies are making Android apps for their BT devices, so we're catching up there.
The Retina iPad mini isn't a bad device, but it's simply not 80% better than the N7.

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It's a fair comparison - they're both aimed at the same end users - people who want small, highly portable tablets.
As for the retina display being better - exactly what are your criteria for this? The N7 has a slightly lower DPI than the Retina iPad mini (319 vs 326). The mini has more actual pixels, but it's actually a larger screen (7.9 vs 7.0).
You're also arguing sort of backwards... you're suggesting that if the N7 were more expensive, it would have more in it (and thus be better competition for the iPad mini, I'm assuming). Except that's a weird way to look at it. The N7+LTE already is significantly cheaper than the nearest equivalent Retina iPad mini and offers a similar set of features. But if you drop down to the N7 you get more features - GPS is included.
The CPU in the Retina iPad mini is more powerful, but we've yet to see meaningful benchmarks to show that this translates into anything meaningful for the use. The whole 64bit vs 32bit is mostly smoke at the moment since almost nothing uses it.
And now that Android support BTLE, more and more companies are making Android apps for their BT devices, so we're catching up there.
The Retina iPad mini isn't a bad device, but it's simply not 80% better than the N7.
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Lol...seriously? I can't....here you win.

As a fomer owner of all the iPad generations(til' 4th), I assure you no iPad will ever "seduce" me again with these "pretty" marketing money-grabbing devices. No way I'm going back to a closed OS... not after getting use to the liberty I have with Android, plus the Nexus 7 has really respectful features even thou is $100 cheaper.

TheWerewolf said:
Well, this is kind of a biased question - most people here will be Nexus 7 fans (you know - we bought one).
That being said...
The cheapest Retina iPad mini is the 16GB WiFi at $400.
The 32 GB Nexus 7 + LTE is $350.
The closest equivalent iPad mini is $630...
That kind of sums it up for me.
I also prefer the N7's smaller size. I can carry it in my jacket pocket. I can't do that with the iPad mini. If I want to carry a bag - I'll carry a full sized tablet.
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It's a fair comparison - they're both aimed at the same end users - people who want small, highly portable tablets.
As for the retina display being better - exactly what are your criteria for this? The N7 has a slightly lower DPI than the Retina iPad mini (319 vs 326). The mini has more actual pixels, but it's actually a larger screen (7.9 vs 7.0).
You're also arguing sort of backwards... you're suggesting that if the N7 were more expensive, it would have more in it (and thus be better competition for the iPad mini, I'm assuming). Except that's a weird way to look at it. The N7+LTE already is significantly cheaper than the nearest equivalent Retina iPad mini and offers a similar set of features. But if you drop down to the N7 you get more features - GPS is included.
The CPU in the Retina iPad mini is more powerful, but we've yet to see meaningful benchmarks to show that this translates into anything meaningful for the use. The whole 64bit vs 32bit is mostly smoke at the moment since almost nothing uses it.
And now that Android support BTLE, more and more companies are making Android apps for their BT devices, so we're catching up there.
The Retina iPad mini isn't a bad device, but it's simply not 80% better than the N7.
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+1. When I was trying to thank and reply to you, I accidentally thanked the person above you. Only way I could reply to you was by long pressing the post below yours. Wtf.
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Isn't nexus 7 PPI 323 vs apple iPad mini retina of 324? I would be surprised if anyone can tell the diff

lomonic said:
Isn't nexus 7 PPI 323 vs apple iPad mini retina of 324? I would be surprised if anyone can tell the diff
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Official specs from the apple store say 326 for the iPad Mini 2 and google play store says 323 for the Nexus 7-2. But my favorite PPI calculator website (http://members.ping.de/~sven/dpi.html) says 324 for the iPad Mini 2. Might be that their display is actually a hair different than 7.9" (wasn't it 7.85"?) which would make it 326 again. Anyway, they are virtually identical. If you are interested in a larger display, Apple will give you that with the iPad Mini. But I'm pretty sure 8" high-res displays from Android makers are just around the corner, too.
Hardware is on par for these devices in my book. Nexus 7 is much cheaper still. So it comes down to your preference of iOS and the larger footprint.

IPad weight 40g more... No gps, no wireless charging and cost more for less.
Sweet!
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I would prefer the LG g pad...

swisstourist said:
IPad ... No gps
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I didn't believe you at first. I had to go check. I can see the reasoning behind not including GPS, but I think it's flawed. So much for offline navigation apps.

Death666Angel said:
Official specs from the apple store say 326 for the iPad Mini 2 and google play store says 323 for the Nexus 7-2. But my favorite PPI calculator website (http://members.ping.de/~sven/dpi.html) says 324 for the iPad Mini 2. Might be that their display is actually a hair different than 7.9" (wasn't it 7.85"?) which would make it 326 again. Anyway, they are virtually identical. If you are interested in a larger display, Apple will give you that with the iPad Mini. But I'm pretty sure 8" high-res displays from Android makers are just around the corner, too.
Hardware is on par for these devices in my book. Nexus 7 is much cheaper still. So it comes down to your preference of iOS and the larger footprint.
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The big difference is the A7 processor found in the mini2. Although the N7s S4 Pro is good, the A7 is probably twice as fast.
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The iPad mini got thicker and heavier. lol

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The big difference is the A7 processor found in the mini2. Although the N7s S4 Pro is good, the A7 is probably twice as fast.
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Display consumption is better for the nexus 7, i saw in battery thread that someone reach 24h of screen on time in one charge.
With the ipad mini i think it's juste about 12hours in same condition.

500mb iPad mini 2
2gb nexus 7

Ipad mini 2 has better screen, looks, processor, apps. N7 scores everywhere else.

littleromeo said:
Ipad mini 2 has better screen, looks, processor, apps. N7 scores everywhere else.
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Screen, debatable(hard for human eye to notice the ppi difference), looks, debatable(your personal preference), processor, yes(A7 supposedly is better), apps, debatable(depending on which apps you really use).
At the end is mostly about what you prefer

Hardware wise:
I prefer 16:10 over 4:3, better HD video playback experience. Other users might prefer 4:3
Nexus 7 is going to be significantly narrower & lighter, easier to hold single handed and can go into jacket pockets easier
Battery life should be about equal, although I have confidence Nexus 7 would come out ahead(as it already beats non-retina Mini)
Software wise:
Widgets, Launchers etc makes the Android Homescreen experience much more customization and enjoyable imo.
The openess of a Nexus 7 to ran various ROMs & kernels in addition to AOSP, something closed iOS can't compete.
Plus the Price difference of $170 ($229 vs $399)
Unless you really need a 7.9" 4:3 Tablet, I don't see how Ipad Mini appeals over Nexus 7. If you view Nexus 7 is too small, there are other HD android tablet such as the LG Gpad 8.3 (Pity its ppi is a bit lower and it isn't a Nexus).

170$ plus Tax...
So around 200$ difference.... Urgh,!

Galaxy Note Pro 12.2

Just read this article. When do you expect the Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 be available on sale? I am considering to buy the Galaxy 10.1 2014 this month but if the Pro will be available in two months, perhaps I should wait.
http://www.thenewstribe.com/2013/12/23/samsung-galaxy-note-pro-leaks-in-new-image/

I am looking forward to this tablet as well will buy it as soon as it is out and then decide which note I will keep
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As much as they sell the 10.1 for I'm thinking the 12.2 will cost more than any android tablet should ever sell for.
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I'm sure it will be gorgeous, but at 12.2" aren't we moving into laptop territory? I think if I'm going to carry around something that big, it might has well have a real keyboard of sorts, like a 11" macbook air.

I thought I would want this, but using the 10.1 2014 edition, I can't possibly have anything else. It's the perfect size.

Yeah, you also have to wonder what the battery life will be like. I don't think I would gain anything from a 12" tablet that isn't running Windows. Also, it better have some kind of quick charge going on. Charge time on the 2014 is brutal.
Steve

From the info posted on the web, it seems that while the battery is larger (for the larger display), the CPU and RAM are the same as the 10.1 2014. Could this mean there might be more lag? Why doesn't Samsung allow us to change the battery like the Note 1-3?

While samsung don't make 4:3 ratio tablet at all, 12.2 or 13.3 tablet may be better.
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From the info posted on the web, it seems that while the battery is larger (for the larger display), the CPU and RAM are the same as the 10.1 2014. Could this mean there might be more lag? Why doesn't Samsung allow us to change the battery like the Note 1-3?
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Screen size is larger but resolution is the same so it wouldn't make a difference as far as lag is concerned, that's only rumoured spec anyhow.
Theres going to be four new tablets from samsung all rumoured to be out before March at the latest, with the 12.2 being one of the first released.

In that case, perhaps I should hold the purchase for the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 and upgrade my Note 2 to Note 3.

Johny Jackson said:
While samsung don't make 4:3 ratio tablet at all, 12.2 or 13.3 tablet may be better.
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Good point. I'd rather see a 4:3 10" Android-powered tablet than a 12.2 or a 12.3 that is 16:10 or (eww) 16:9. It is frustrating that the only decent 4:3 tablet is the iPad (although HP did just come out with the HP Slate Pro 8, but the specs on that are pretty weak).

So if they Samsung is releasing a 12.2'' Note , the prices for Note 10.1 might come down aswell, if so i will just return mine and wait. _P

Anicane said:
So if they Samsung is releasing a 12.2'' Note , the prices for Note 10.1 might come down aswell, if so i will just return mine and wait. _P
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Highly doubtful. More likely is the price of the 12.2 will be noticeably higher. I use my 10.1 for entertainment when traveling and to get light productivity work done so I don't have to schlep my notebook with me all the time. At least to me, 12.2" is just way too big and defeats the portability benefit of a tablet. You've got to give Samsung credit though for leaving no niche unexploited.

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Highly doubtful. More likely is the price of the 12.2 will be noticeably higher. I use my 10.1 for entertainment when traveling and to get light productivity work done so I don't have to schlep my notebook with me all the time. At least to me, 12.2" is just way too big and defeats the portability benefit of a tablet. You've got to give Samsung credit though for leaving no niche unexploited.
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I agree, it'll most likely be more expensive, might as well buy a laptop or surface pro and be more productive.

I want one of these just because it's bigger, but there are just too many drawbacks. With the increase in screen size (which is substantial), there is a significant increase in weight and price with a drop in ppi
It's rumored to be 750g, which is actually only 3 oz heavier than an iPad 4, which actually isn't that bad considering the size.

I use my Note 10.1 while travelling. I take notes at clients sites, and I use t for reading and gaming in the airports. Even the 10" can get a little heavy for holding when reading, so I don't think I would want the additional weight of a larger tablet. For travellers weight is the enemy. I like a decent sized screen, but I have to balance that with weight.

A couple months ago I would have also gravitated toward the 12 - inch tablet. However, seeing the lower sales numbers for this device, due to the high price and how it has suppressed the development of custom ROMs, I have changed my perspective.
Thanks to Scott for Clean ROM, and finally breaking the log jam.
I cannot imagine the weight difference being noticeable in the long run, if you get the big dog.
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What's funny is the 7-8" crowd thinks we're all nuts for having a 10" tablet. Different strokes.

scrabbles said:
I'm sure it will be gorgeous, but at 12.2" aren't we moving into laptop territory? I think if I'm going to carry around something that big, it might has well have a real keyboard of sorts, like a 11" macbook air.
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My exact thoughts.
Sent from my freekin huge Note 10.1 ?

I own the Nexus 10 (same screen size and resolution of SGN 10.1 2014) and an HP TM2 12.2 hybrid tablet/notebook. The HP can be used either as a tablet with pen or by rotating the screen it can be used as a touch notebook. Comparing the 10.1" screen to the 12.2" screen; the 12.2" is significantly larger. I use my tablet for web browsing and while the 10.1" does a nice job, the 12.2 is much less fatiguing to use. You wouldn't realize this unless you could switch from one to the other and directly compare them. But since the Nexus 10 is much more convenient to handle, it is my go to tablet right now.
I'm definitely going to pickup the PRO when it is introduced and compare it directly to the Nexus 10 for daily use. I will either go with the PRO or the SGN 10.1 2014. Because of the pretty drastic difference in size, I think it will not take long to develop a clear preference in actual use. The PRO may be to big ... or maybe not.
Many people felt the SG Note was too big to be used as a phone, but I have really enjoyed my Note 2 and now my Note 3. When I switch to smaller phones they seem seriously inconvenient to use.

Sony Z3x... Successor to the z ultra?

Have you all googled z3x? It looks to be the successor to the z ultra that I know many of you, like myself, currently have.
The only reason I was considering a z3 tablet compact was cause I saw no successor to the Z ultra I currently have.
This Z3x looks to be what we've all been wanting.

CCJ22 said:
Have you all googled z3x? It looks to be the successor to the z ultra that I know many of you, like myself, currently have.
The only reason I was considering a z3 tablet compact was cause I saw no successor to the Z ultra I currently have.
This Z3x looks to be what we've all been wanting.
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6.2 inch is a dealbreaker to me. I use my Ultra for reading and can't take a smaller display so the Tablet Compact is still on the radar or rather, I am more or less fully ready to get it.
The Z3x looks like a great device, though but the smaller screen breaks it for me. If they would have introduced a 6.5 inch or perhaps 7 inch, I would have been all over it.

E90 Commie said:
6.2 inch is a dealbreaker to me. I use my Ultra for reading and can't take a smaller display so the Tablet Compact is still on the radar or rather, I am more or less fully ready to get it.
The Z3x looks like a great device, though but the smaller screen breaks it for me. If they would have introduced a 6.5 inch or perhaps 7 inch, I would have been all over it.
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A whole fifth of an inch on the diagonal would matter that much? If mine magically shrunk that much I may not even notice.

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A whole fifth of an inch on the diagonal would matter that much? If mine magically shrunk that much I may not even notice.
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The difference between 5.3 and 5.5 inch (Note I to Note II) or 5.5 to 5.7 inch (Note II to Note 3 and 4) is noticeable. For reading and browsing purposes, it is enough to shrink the text or force some extra zooming.
I am simply not interested in going down from 6.44 to 6.2 inches. Sony could very well give us a bigger screen while keeping the same overall size. A 7 inch screen with the same device proportions would also be perfect (it would be smaller than a Nexus 7 and just slightly bigger than the Ultra).
Even if 0.24 inches sounds little, it is certainly noticeable. It is around 6 mm smaller and yes, it is a step backwards for me.
If I want a smaller device, I can jump all the way down to around 6 inches then since most of the market hovers around 5.5-6 inches. It would be easy but I have realized that I prefer to go full in for a tablet replacement and a size that reduces the cravings for a 10 inch "full-size" device. Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact fit that bill and a 7 inch phablet with slim bezels would also do the same.
The Nexus 7 physical size is my optimum sweetspot, size wise.