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Hi All,
This might seem like a bizarre idea but I'd like to be able to use my XDA to convert video files from uncompressed .AVI into a compressed format such as .mpg
My reason for wanting to do this is I am going Africa in a few weeks to take part in the Tour d'Afrique, an 11,800km bike race from Cairo to Capetown.
My plan is to post a video diary to my blog from internet cafes along the route. I'm going to use an online video editing site such as JayCut.com to edit the video, but the problem is uploading the uncompressed AVI files, which are huge (about 1Mb per second of video).
There are plenty of free .AVI to .MPEG converters for desktop/laptop computers, but I haven't found any for XDAs. (not hard to guess why).
Space (and weight) are at a premium, so I'd rather not take a laptop and the XDA would be ideal if I can just overcome the video compression problem. (I don't mind that it might take a while to do the conversion)
Any suggestions would be really appreciated
Cheers
Simon
You could use coolcamera from ateksoft which makes videos in small sizes... 1 min takes about 5mb with reliable quality!
Considering that video encoding takes huge amount of the pc hardware i dont think its possible to make one for a ppc! You would probably need a whole day to encode a video!
Thanks Sercio, but unless I'm missing something, coolCamera looks like a bit of software that runs on an XDA and makes better use of the inbuilt camera ?
This wouldn't really fit my needs as my camera needs to be rain and dust proof !
Since coolCamera can do compression in real time, I think XDA's can probably (hopefull) cope with doing "offline" compression, albeit more slowly.
I did find this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395600
which suggests that people are working on video conversion / compression using XDA's ?
I wonder if anyone has created a simple wrapper application for the ffpmpeg.dll's that would "just work". (it doesn't matter how simple the app as long as it can convert .avi into .mpeg)
I also realise (or think I do) that the .avi format can actually contain any number of different codecs, so nothing is ever simple ...
Thanks anyway
In the end I decided it was better to for an Asus eee PC with an additional external battery (and a solar charger). Should (might) have about 15 hours of battery life !
watch out for the lions and zimbzbwean.
by the way, where can i find your video journal when you are there?
Hi everyone.
I would like to share with you my experience with the touch HD and the settings I use for video playback.
I own both an iphone 3g and a HTC touch HD and set about looking for a piece of software that could encode video once and playback perfectly on both phones.
After many hours of trying various encoding programs I have finally found one that encodes perfectly for both devices and plays in the standard HTC media player. Best of all its free!!
The software I use is called Freestar ipod video converter and the settings I use are as follows..
Select the device as iphone and under advanced settings alter the video quality to 512. Its as simple as that!
I have encoded around 30 movies using various source code from DVD rips to divx/xvid and have had no problems at all. All the videos have played perfectly on both the iphone 3g and the HTC touch HD.
Hope this helps in some way.
Richard
Thanks for sharing. I'm interested in looking into this. I've tried super.. and can't figure out how to START the conversion (am I an idiot???) I've tried the purpose build HD encoder program I found on here and it doens't seem to make ANY different to my player. I'd be interested in checking this process out.
Regards,
BANE
The only problem I have is shutting down the software after it has finished converting, I am using Vista 32 bit and have to go through task manager to close the program.
Other than that small issue I find the software really easy to use. Simply click add and browse to the file you want to convert then click convert.
It averages around 13 to 15 minutes to convert a full length movie on my machine. Q6600,4GB ram,8800gtx.
Cheers.....Richard
Exciting! I too have yet to find the solution that works. I note that Freestar takes the VOB files as input rther than IFO files. Can I ask how you concatanate the converted files together to make one seamless movie when the various VOBs have been converted?
BANE said:
Thanks for sharing. I'm interested in looking into this. I've tried super.. and can't figure out how to START the conversion (am I an idiot???) I've tried the purpose build HD encoder program I found on here and it doens't seem to make ANY different to my player. I'd be interested in checking this process out.
Regards,
BANE
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Drag your media file into the bottom section of Super, once there choose your settings for encode etc then make your the file in the bottom section is "ticked" and click encode - should work.. Think default output location is program files\super or summit like that..
I'm not joking... but I don't seem to have an ENCODE buttone. Out of curiosity, could you please tell me exactly where this button is on your program so i can make sure it's not staring me in the face??
Thanks
golightlygl said:
Exciting! I too have yet to find the solution that works. I note that Freestar takes the VOB files as input rther than IFO files. Can I ask how you concatanate the converted files together to make one seamless movie when the various VOBs have been converted?
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I use a program called videoredoplus to concatenate mpg (and vob) files which streamcopies as oppposed to recodes. Concatenate before recoding (with anything) for the best quality results
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I'm not joking... but I don't seem to have an ENCODE buttone. Out of curiosity, could you please tell me exactly where this button is on your program so i can make sure it's not staring me in the face??
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This is what my screen looks like.. Bottom left is the encode button..
DVDCatalyst is the bomb!
Look no further than this program for video encoding.
http://pocketdvd.ca/products/dvd catalyst 3.html
It even has a device profile for the HD and it works perfectly. I use it on a Vista 64 Ultimate system and have had no problems. They offer a 7 day full feature trial download. My 8 core Xeon system can do a 1:45 movie in 17 minutes in HQ mode!
Very impressive and easy to use UI. Three things needed to configure it is to tell it that you have a Touch HD (HQ mode preferred), where to put the file (unless you want the default location) and press "GO". It's that easy. $19.95 USD is a bargain.
Regards,
Gordo
^^ its a **** program.
I used a trial to convert a HD film to that 800x480 and just picked the profile HTC HD (HQ) and the film is unwatchable.
Got a benchmark of 54%.
In the end, i guess it doesn't come down to the program but the device.
This is getting ridiculous!
Psygnosis84 said:
^^ its a **** program.
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A little harsh but I tend to agree with this sentiment after doing a couple of flics.. perhaps it's virtues lie somewhere yet to be discovered.
I use the ipod me video converter in the maximum resolution and in the options - slow, quality and the videos in the touch HD play perfect.
And it also allows to use subtitles (srt) (The encoder in this forum also works but it doesn't allow subtitles and sometimes I have sound issues...)
Psygnosis84 said:
^^ its a **** program.
I used a trial to convert a HD film to that 800x480 and just picked the profile HTC HD (HQ) and the film is unwatchable.
Got a benchmark of 54%.
In the end, i guess it doesn't come down to the program but the device.
This is getting ridiculous!
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Strange, I have burned several movies and just selected the HD (HQ) profile and changed nothing else (defaults for everything except for conversion priortiy, I set that to Very High, as I have an 8 core Xeon with 32GB of RAM and therefore get 17-18 minute conversions) and it views perfectly. What player are you using? I am using the standard, built in Windows Media Player and get superb results.
Try it again with WMP and let me know what results you get.
Gordo
what do you mean with HTC built in media player? The windows mobile media player? That's one of the worst players in my opinion.
jetjockgordo said:
Look no further than this program for video encoding.
http://pocketdvd.ca/products/dvd catalyst 3.html
It even has a device profile for the HD and it works perfectly. I use it on a Vista 64 Ultimate system and have had no problems. They offer a 7 day full feature trial download. My 8 core Xeon system can do a 1:45 movie in 17 minutes in HQ mode!
Very impressive and easy to use UI. Three things needed to configure it is to tell it that you have a Touch HD (HQ mode preferred), where to put the file (unless you want the default location) and press "GO". It's that easy. $19.95 USD is a bargain.
Regards,
Gordo
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I have to say that I'm watching a full length vid now on my HTC Touch HD having used DVD Catalyst 3 on trial and it is perfect in both WMP and Album player (I don't really see any difference.)
I've not had any sucess previously with Super Converter no matter what setting I tried, yet with this, as Gordo said, just set it running with the default settings for the HTC and it converted seamlessly.
Most impressed and I think I shall be buying this one after the trial.
Trixter: Thank you very much for the screen shot. I can confirm that those buttons do NOT show up in the build I have :S (can't recall which build it is offhand) Weird.
And is it just me or is it really difficult to find this for download? I go to their site download page, but end up navigating in circles :S
BANE
hurzwa said:
what do you mean with HTC built in media player? The windows mobile media player? That's one of the worst players in my opinion.
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I beg to differ. While the UI sucks somewhat, I found WMP to sound better than Coreplayer (after tweaking it for hours!) and Pocketplayer. This is true with both my Shure SE530's and my Moto S9-HD's.
Here is a link to a video I shot with my son's Flip video camera so the quality is not perfect. I could not get close enough and keep the Touch HD in focus and let you see how clean the movie is. As I said in my earlier posts, DVDCatalyst and WMP work together perfectly.
Right click this link and do a "save as".
http://www.jetjocktech.com/gordo/Posted Pics/VID00006.AVI
http://www.jetjocktech.com/gordo/Posted Pics/VID00004.AVI
Gordo
...at last!
Fabulous! Having tried many of the solutions available, this is the first one that takes a real DVD (as opposed to a video file) and extracts and encodes the file to a size that allows playback on the Touch HD without stuttering.
Belive me, I've tried many solutions but this is not only effective, it's incredibly easy to use!
I recommend everyone to give it a try. I shall be paying. I've spent more time and money trying to get video to work on the Touch HD that the price seems lke a brgain now even though it might not have done when I started the process.
ok, update. Thankfully now SUPER encoder WORKS. IE the ENCODE NOW button and the rest of the buttons at the bottom have appeared.
I'm running a Vaio UX280P as my main computer, and whether it's to do with changing my poser setting from MAXIMUM BATTERY to Desktop use, or the fact that my resolution is higher when I plug it into an external monitor, It's worked.
I encoded a movie today and it not only works a treat, it did it in a pretty decent amount of time. My past experience with encoding stuff took HOURS!
Anywa, seems like a great program now i've had the chance to use it.
BANE
free video/music mp4 for htc hd full screen!!
try this site http://keepvid.com/
go to exsample ,youtube kopie the link to keepvideo its will convert to mp4 and you can play direct on your phone.
Just found this last night and don't know if anyone posted about this before, but it works flawlessly with my X1
Program: Format Factory
Link: http://www.formatoz.com/download.html
Just set it for Sony Ericsson X1 as your default if you want, then select any file(s) you wanna convert, and BAM!!!! 1G of video converted in 5mins and reduced to about 150mb...Hope that this helps anybody else here like it helped me...Alohas for now.
P.S. Forgot to mention that this program only converts video files, but pictures as well as music files...just about anything...
Thanks. Am downloading it and will give it a go shortly.
What do you use to play the files on the X1
It appears that the program sets the X1's res at 320 x 240, I find that an unnaceptable quality for encoding to the X1.
It's a nice program though. I 'll work on custome settings . .
I use it to convert a video in 480*272 (I don't want 320*240!!!) and the audio is not synchronised with the video...
I use "HD Encoder.exe" found some where around here. it works fricking great for high def video like movies, divx, etc...
google it up!
You think you'd encode a video from 1, 2, 4G fo a bout an hours or so and then outputs to a file about 650MB for an X1? isn't it a little too big? I mean to phone came out with just 4G you'd only have enough for 3 movies. is there another lower file size converter?
Thanks for information
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You think you'd encode a video from 1, 2, 4G fo a bout an hours or so and then outputs to a file about 650MB for an X1? isn't it a little too big? I mean to phone came out with just 4G you'd only have enough for 3 movies. is there another lower file size converter?
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Sorry, but I believe that the biggest they have for the X1 is 16GB...as for me, I'm using an 8GB microSDHD card and it's way more than enough because I only watch movies on my phone only during my class breaks which are about 15-30mins. What's so hard in transferring the files to/from your memory card anyways Transferring 4GB of files onto my card only takes me 2-3mins.
xxlikquidxx said:
I use "HD Encoder.exe" found some where around here. it works fricking great for high def video like movies, divx, etc...
google it up!
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I tried many versions of that program and all of them didn't work with me...I always get errors with that program.
alabij said:
It appears that the program sets the X1's res at 320 x 240, I find that an unnaceptable quality for encoding to the X1.
It's a nice program though. I 'll work on custome settings . .
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I'm also trying to find the sweet spot by manually setting it, but I'm having a difficult time doing so
My recommendation? Stick to Projection's HD video converter. See sticky for more info.
Angelusz said:
My recommendation? Stick to Projection's HD video converter. See sticky for more info.
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Yep....does the job.
Or if you can find the download link on their site and like to tweak your videos to the 9th degree you can use super
Super and Xillsoft are the two i used before i found the projection one. Projection thank you so much you are ftw!
Why take the trouble and convert anything at all?
Just use the coreplayer! it will play your basic xvid etc video's perfectly.
Yeah.. it's 700mb for a movie.. but it's not that you need to stack 20 movies on your phone
Today at Sprint store I played the same YouTube video on the Hero and the Pre side by side. The Pre looked great, the Hero had a very low frame rate and poor resolution. I hope someone can tell me something was wrong with the Hero and it is not always like this.
I am seriously considering buying a Hero and have been spending a lot of time at my local Sprint story getting to know it. Today I was trying out flash video on many sites and they all looked bad like I described above. I just assumed the videos had a poor source until I tried a YouTube video on the Pre. It is hard to believe all the reviews I have been seeing of the Hero wouldn't have hammered it for this if it were a common problem.
maybe the reviews didn't hammer it since at the time the choice was 'average flash performance' vs 'no flash at all'... I always watch youtube vids in the You Tube app which plays them smooth as silk, even in HD (with the occasional flutter)
If the need for smooth Flash animations takes precedence over the 1001 other unbelievably high quality aspects of the HTC Hero, then you should probably just buy a Pre like all the other dorks...
The quality of the video on the actual YouTube app is way superior to that you will get going onto the main site via the browser and the HTC Flash player.
Regards,
Dave
I'm not sure if the YouTube app chooses the video quality for you or not based on your connection. But, if the video starts off on low quality, just hit the menu button, choose "more" on the pop-up menu, and then select High Quality. It's crystal clear after that.
Thanks for the replies. I will try to get back to the Sprint store today and try out the video quality options.
How do I know if the video is playing in the YouTube app or not? The video I tried played full screen. Must I navigate there from a separate app than the browser?
Erik
it is true, i did not know that. I usually watched videos through the site. Tried the youtube app on my hero and it is indeed crystal clear. Cool
erikcave said:
Thanks for the replies. I will try to get back to the Sprint store today and try out the video quality options.
How do I know if the video is playing in the YouTube app or not? The video I tried played full screen. Must I navigate there from a separate app than the browser?
Erik
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It is a physically separate app from which you can search/view Youtube videos. It came preloaded on my GSM Hero, so I assume it's still on the Sprint Hero.
If you go to Youtube via the browser, it launches the HTC Flash Player when you try to view a video, and this is quite poor! Thinking about it, I think on the G1 if you were on YouTube in a browser, it would launch any videos via the Youtube app (since it doesn't have a flash player).
Regards,
Dave
It seems the phone should be smart enough to know you are loading YouTube videos and load the YouTube player instead of the HTC Flash Player.
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It seems the phone should be smart enough to know you are loading YouTube videos and load the YouTube player instead of the HTC Flash Player.
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I think the "idea" is that if you have flash, you don't need the YouTube app. Sadly, it's a bad idea!
Regards,
Dave
bboydru said:
I'm not sure if the YouTube app chooses the video quality for you or not based on your connection. But, if the video starts off on low quality, just hit the menu button, choose "more" on the pop-up menu, and then select High Quality. It's crystal clear after that.
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exactly what I do and the quality is awesome, suck that the app wont allow you to choose HD for all videos.
Good advice in this thread and I would like too add I do not miss it Pre one bit. That device has some serious flaws not likely to be addressed for another year. Namely its weak SDK, lack of deep system / hardware access and lack of GPU support. The Pre can't use its own hardware properly much less the lack of options in all of the OS.
Vertig0 said:
exactly what I do and the quality is awesome, suck that the app wont allow you to choose HD for all videos.
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Wait, are you saying you have to do tell it to play high quality every time? That would suck indeed, and would be a serious oversight in functionality.
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Wait, are you saying you have to do tell it to play high quality every time? That would suck indeed, and would be a serious oversight in functionality.
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Yes you do unless on WiFi. Then I think it automatically goes into high quality mode
Pre vs and youtube
I stoped by a Bell to try a Pre and compared it to my HTC touch on same Bell network, yes picture was great on Pre but it was slow, in fact I gave up waiting for it to load some video as my touch was playing them in half the time. Today at work we had my touch on bell a Touch 2 Pro on Telus and a iPhone on rogers, all playing the same video from You Tube and nothing compared to the touch pro 2 for quality video was HD looking and played without jumping, the IPhone 3gs crashed tohe sound quit working we had to restart it, and it then worked but picture of video was not full screen as the other two had. Big differance was the way they handled buffering the IPhone buffered all at first then played non-stop the other two would play a few seconds then buffer for up to 2 minutes play a few seconds then again buffer. I then played my IPod Touch same video but wifi, again video did not fit all the screen but no buffering and no digitaizing. So all in all a big disapointment with all three networks and their ability to play streaming HD video!
I was at the Sprint store again today and tried to enable high quality, but could never find the setting. I pressed the menu button over and over again while the video was playing, but it never did anything. Also, I intentionally loaded a video via the YouTube App and the quality was still bad. Furthermore I rebooted the device to be sure it wasn't just loaded down with running programs.
Weird
With the video on you press menu > more > watch high quality.
That's what I did. I pushed the menu button next to the trackball and nothing happened. No menu appeared. I also pushed every other button and the touched the screen.
I searched on the market and in Appbrain but there does not seem to be an app which records a movie with additional info being shown in the recording. Think of the police cams when they are in pursuit.
I record a movie when I drive to work now and then and I think it would be really nice to see actual speed, directions, time, etc. in the movie. I think that would be really cool .
Anyone know of an app like this? If not, maybe it is just a nice idea then.
Check appbrain hottest app list
thed0g said:
Check appbrain hottest app list
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I did. ...
boety said:
I did. ...
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I meant this app : http://www.appbrain.com/app/dailyroads-voyager/com.dailyroads.v
But you can't imprint text to the recording on Android, mission impossible. Still you can watch the HUD while driving ;]
Looks like a good app. As per the description:
Display speed, elevation, timestamp and GPS coordinates on videos/photos.
Will have to try it and see if it just displays it or if it actually records the info also for playback.
Just tested this app, it is really nice and has very nice feautures!
Downside: playback recorded movies does not show the data, only when viewed with internal movie player.
So it does not seem possible to download recorded movies to your pc ... thats's a shame.
Maybe that feature will be added later.
http://www.techbang.com.tw/posts/4720-xiao-android-phone-uncovered-with-the-middle-finger
very nice app.... thank you