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Often ROM's instruct you to install the gapps package (http://goo.im/gapps ), which adds a collection of Google Apps. I'm often surprised that more people don't know, even sometimes Rom Developers themselves, that you don't always need them.
In fact not installing them, saves not only space, but ram & cpu usage. You end up with a faster device. Everything you need is already added in almost every standard Rom (including Chameleon OS for example).
For example, checking Gmail. You don't need Gmail App. The normal e-mail program that comes with Android already supports Gmail (and other e-mail providers).
You also don't need Google Search. The stock browser already uses it when you search. You save about 20 MB Ram (sometimes more, depending on which Rom you use), by not having Search on the desktop.
About the only con (drawback) is if you're flashing a phone, you're going to want or need gapps as that includes the voice commands (if I recall correctly). But if that's something you feel you can live without or don't need (because you have a tablet or maybe you don't use them on your phone), then not installing gapps can make things easier.
So do you install gapps (Google Apps)?
Actually, for some custom roms, in order for all the features to work, you need to flash Gapps. But for most you dont need. I have never had any bad things from flashing or not flahsing. But i always do flash so i can sync my purchases and apps.
I never flash the Gapps packages for any ROM I use. I only will add the Google Play Store, Google Services Framework and the Account Manager (for JB). All those Google apps are pointless and like stated earlier, will bog down the battery life and performance. Usually I will freeze the Play Store and such when not using them.
Its quite easy to put the required apps in the /system/app folder, set permissions correctly and reboot to get ONLY the Google Play Store. Of course you will need a root explorer like app to do this.
Guitarman2010 said:
I never flash the Gapps packages for any ROM I use. I only will add the Google Play Store, Google Services Framework and the Account Manager (for JB). All those Google apps are pointless and like stated earlier, will bog down the battery life and performance. Usually I will freeze the Play Store and such when not using them.
Its quite easy to put the required apps in the /system/app folder, set permissions correctly and reboot to get ONLY the Google Play Store. Of course you will need a root explorer like app to do this.
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Every ROM I've ever used had Google Play already installed. I believe Framework and Account Manager are already inside as well. So I've not needed to track down the actual app for it.
Socially Uncensored said:
Every ROM I've ever used had Google Play already installed. I believe Framework and Account Manager are already inside as well. So I've not needed to track down the actual app for it.
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Sometimes I'll get lucky and the Play Store is preloaded like SBlood's CM7. I usually use twa_priv's ROMs as my primaries in which I most always have to add Google Play, except I think the latest release (4-19-13), I believe that had it built in.
Guitarman2010 said:
Sometimes I'll get lucky and the Play Store is preloaded like SBlood's CM7. I usually use twa_priv's ROMs as my primaries in which I most always have to add Google Play, except I think the latest release (4-19-13), I believe that had it built in.
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Google Play store updates its self. So no matter which version you installed, it will be current sooner rather than later.
Socially Uncensored said:
Google Play store updates its self. So no matter which version you installed, it will be current sooner rather than later.
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I am well aware of that but thanks for mentioning it as maybe it will enlighten other users
I use this Gapps package. It is light apps and RAM usage.
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I think some of you have misunderstood the Gapps.
AFAIK, every AOSP-based ROM will have separate Gapps. Some REQUIRED, some not. You can choose to install or not. NOTE: if you won't install Gapps, you WON'T get Google Play.
Or connection to google services. If you do not flash Google Apps, you get nothing google (beside the software) so your wifi signal, will always be grey, instead of that nice blue. Thats the reason why i flash, that grey bugs me, I only want the blue colour(;
votinh said:
I think some of you have misunderstood the Gapps.
AFAIK, every AOSP-based ROM will have separate Gapps. Some REQUIRED, some not. You can choose to install or not. NOTE: if you won't install Gapps, you WON'T get Google Play.
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That's not true or at least its not try with the ROMs I use. Google's app store is there without me having to add all the extras that come with Gapps
tobiascuypers said:
Or connection to google services. If you do not flash Google Apps, you get nothing google (beside the software) so your wifi signal, will always be grey, instead of that nice blue. Thats the reason why i flash, that grey bugs me, I only want the blue colour(;
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Also not true. I have a nice Wifi signal without Gapps. I also connect to my Gmail using the stock e-mail problem.
This was posted using the stock browser without gapps installed.
Well, seeing this thread, I've tried freezing several system apps on my devices. After freezing backupconfirm and sharebackup, apps seems to open up faster and the device snappier..
I used to install gapps every time, now I usually dont. I like the email app in JB a lot better than the gmail app. Usually install the play store and maps
I like the maps and play store hate the gmail
I find that installing gapps, especially Google play services causes more bugs
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Had no idea!!!!!!!!!
hey guys,thanks for this post i was under the impression I HAD NO OTHER CHOICE...every time i have asked this in a specific rom ...always told to read the beginning of the 1st post on how to install before i post.....maybe wasnt making myself clear..thanks for answering my question...time to experiment !!!!!!!! :good::good::good::good:
Does anyone know exactly what Google flavored apps are required for the just the Play Store to function properly?
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I install gapps everytime because I am always getting new apps. It is interesting to hear that it isn't needed and can make things snappier if you don't need to download new apps.
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I install gapps everytime because I am always getting new apps. It is interesting to hear that it isn't needed and can make things snappier if you don't need to download new apps.
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I want to know exactly which ones are absolutely necessary so I can either remove or freeze the ones I don't need. I'm all about battery life and performance
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So naturally one of the first things I did with my new G2 was to root it, since I have a few favorite apps that require root.
Then I did something stupid: I told Titanium Backup to "Integrate updates of system apps into ROM" - hey, it always worked great with my DesireHD running JellyTime. Well, didn't work so well in this case, leading to many of the "bundled" apps simply disappearing, and others (particularly Google apps) crashing.
Most of the Google apps I fixed by simply uninstalling them using TiBkup, then reinstalling from Play... but one it particular I really liked, that I can't find anywhere else, was the bundled "Photo Album" app - like Gallery, but better. Still trying to figure out a way to get this back, short of re-flashing the stock ROM.
I tried doing a full backup of ALL apps in TiBkup, then uninstalling the Photo Album from there (which SAID it worked), then restoring it from backup... but no go. And of course, this isn't an app that's available in Play.
Any other suggestion (other than re-flashing) to get this and others back to where they were? Is there a list of all the bundled apps that came with this phone?
What about reflashing gapps?
GApps isn't really the problem - SOME of the Google apps had issues, but those I could uninstall and then reinstall from the Play Store. It's the Photo Albums app that I'd really like back, and it doesn't appear to be on the Play Store at all. What I need is another G2 that I can export an .apk of the missing apps (or at least of the ones I liked)...
Soundy106 said:
GApps isn't really the problem - SOME of the Google apps had issues, but those I could uninstall and then reinstall from the Play Store. It's the Photo Albums app that I'd really like back, and it doesn't appear to be on the Play Store at all. What I need is another G2 that I can export an .apk of the missing apps (or at least of the ones I liked)...
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Here is a link the LG apps themselves from the G2. You can download, unzip and install the apks you want.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx8G-Ji7ejK9T1hvcVJPOFNnZTg/edit
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Here is a link the LG apps themselves from the G2. You can download, unzip and install the apks you want.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx8G-Ji7ejK9T1hvcVJPOFNnZTg/edit
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Awesome, exactly what I was looking for... unfortunately install fails on any of them I tried. Tried launching the APKs from both Root Browser and ES Browser, same thing. "Unknown sources" is checked...
Is there a log somewhere that might show me what's going on?
I guess worst case, I have to back everything up and re-flash the stock rom...
Are you running the stock rom or another rom?
Stock - only got the thing a couple weeks ago. I probably wouldn't really worry about it, but there were a couple of the bundled apps I really liked that I want to get back.
And honestly, I've looked at a couple of the other ROMs listed here and considered it, but unlike the bloated nonSense on my old HTC, I really like a lot of the stock LG functionality... and of course, I'm worried that some of the stock apps I like might not work on a custom ROM.
Hi there!
I've put together a spreadsheet of apps that are (or so far seem) safe to remove from the Nexus 5. Note that I am running 4.4 KitKat, which has been unlocked with TWRP and rooted. The spreadsheet comes from the combined efforts of hallstevenson's spreadsheet on the Galaxy S3 for Spring (which I adapted and updated for the Verizon version), and referencing MoJo's script for removing Nexus 5 bloatware. I used Titanium Backup to go through and type in the packages and APK names.
CLICK HERE FOR ACCESS TO THE SPREADSHEET [GOOGLE DOCS]
Click the "5.1" tab.
If you have questions, comments, suggestions, concerns, or want to tell me exactly where I'm wrong about something, please leave a comment here! If such a list already exists, I couldn't find it through searching. And if I'm in the wrong category, I apologize; seeing MoJo's script here led me to think this would be the appropriate place.
**UPDATE FOR LOLLIPOP 5.1**
Here are the apps I've personally removed, if anyone is interested (this list changes with each update):
Basic Daydreams
Cloud Print
Downloads
Earth
Email
Exchange Services
Fit
Hindi Input
Korean Input
Google Now Launcher
Pinyin Input
Books
Movies & TV
Newsstand
Text-to-Speech
iWnn IME Japanese input
MusicFX
News & Weather
Nfc Service
Slides
Sun Beam
Tags
Talkback
Trusted Face (Facelock)
Wallet
Thanks dude!
Nexus 5 Droidkang Rom and Chaos Kernel, ART/OC/UV.. super smooth, and blazing fast.
Anyone have any insight?
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thanks a lot bro
Updated for Lollipop!
I'm back with an update! You can use the same link above. Note that this time I've added a tab for Android 5.0 Lollipop. (There's also a tab for what I believe is 4.4.4, which I started and didn't finish... Sorry!) Again, I'm on a stock ROM from Google's firmware page, and I used Titanium Backup (v 6.2.0) to go through this list. I had a couple of app updates after flashing the new ROM, so the version numbers might not quite match up. As usual, let me know if there are any issues, or if you've figured out if an app can be removed that I've left blank. If you're going to be adventurous, it's best to freeze an app and test rather than delete it, and make a backup before you delete.
Enjoy!
Here are the apps I've personally removed, if anyone is interested:
Basic Daydreams
Cloud Print
Downloads
Earth
Email
Exchange Services
Fit
Hindi Input
Korean Input
Pinyin Input
Books
Movies & TV
Newsstand
Text-to-Speech
iWnn IME Japanese input
News & Weather - I use Chronus
Nfc Service
Sun Beam
Talkback
Trusted Face (Facelock)
Can we get rid of Google+ and still be able to have a photo gallery?
I tried freezing it and I couldn't access my photos because I had to enable Google+.
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tybo31316 said:
Can we get rid of Google+ and still be able to have a photo gallery?
I tried freezing it and I couldn't access my photos because I had to enable Google+.
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Yes. Stand by. I will upload a flashible zip for you
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0G5X8qmEBxFMXJuZmFKcEdRMjA/edit?usp=docslist_api
Flash in recovery, no wipe is needed. Flash n go.
tybo31316 said:
Can we get rid of Google+ and still be able to have a photo gallery?
I tried freezing it and I couldn't access my photos because I had to enable Google+.
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Not sure. I'd think the Photos app would still work, but maybe not. I actually use Google+ on a constant basis so I haven't removed the app.
You deactivated the exchange services, so do you get any emails with auto synchronisation ? Or are the exchange services only for the E-Mail app, which isnt working on L anymore?
Blackbox421 said:
You deactivated the exchange services, so do you get any emails with auto synchronisation ? Or are the exchange services only for the E-Mail app, which isnt working on L anymore?
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I removed the email exchange services because I do not use them. I strictly use the GMail app. I imagine they still work fine!
this is awesome
awesome ... phone is a little faster now .. still have the google apps on it .. as i use all of them
Bump for 5.0.1 update (see original post)
Hey, I am a tad bit confused here..
I currently have two Exchange Services.
1) com.google.android.gm.exchange
(ver. 6.5-1520254)
2) com.android.exchange
(ver. 4.4.4-6936)
I'm sure the second one is the one I can delete but was just unsure about the first one.
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First thing I do is strip this space taking rubbish out. Never once had problems
IllogicalKris said:
Hey, I am a tad bit confused here..
I currently have two Exchange Services.
1) com.google.android.gm.exchange
(ver. 6.5-1520254)
2) com.android.exchange
(ver. 4.4.4-6936)
I'm sure the second one is the one I can delete but was just unsure about the first one.
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The first one is the one I have marked as safe to delete. I don't know what the second is, maybe something left over from KitKat? Try freezing them with TitaniumBackup and reboot, see if they give you any issues. If they don't, make backups and remove them.
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The first one is the one I have marked as safe to delete. I don't know what the second is, maybe something left over from KitKat? Try freezing them with TitaniumBackup and reboot, see if they give you any issues. If they don't, make backups and remove them.
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Okay, I didn't think this would have much to do with it but I am using Slimkat 4.4.4, so I didn't think to look in the 5.0 tab. I shall see what happens when I freeze the other EServices.
Thanks for the reply.
Edit: Well, I have backed-up both Exchange Services and removed them both and nothing seems to have changed *Shrugs* Ahh well.
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IllogicalKris said:
Okay, I didn't think this would have much to do with it but I am using Slimkat 4.4.4, so I didn't think to look in the 5.0 tab. I shall see what happens when I freeze the other EServices.
Thanks for the reply.
Edit: Well, I have backed-up both Exchange Services and removed them both and nothing seems to have changed *Shrugs* Ahh well.
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Well, generally speaking, you should be looking in the tab for your current Android version. (Or as close as your custom ROM gets.) The list is based on a fresh install of the ROM, so if your apps have updated since, they'll show different version numbers and possibly different locations, too. Something I didn't think to include in my post, sorry!
pWEN said:
Well, generally speaking, you should be looking in the tab for your current Android version. (Or as close as your custom ROM gets.) The list is based on a fresh install of the ROM, so if your apps have updated since, they'll show different version numbers and possibly different locations, too. Something I didn't think to include in my post, sorry!
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Well I flashed the ROM last week, so anything could have updated. Anyway, thanks for the help. I just wanted to have an opinion on the random system app first before I went ahead and removed it.
Cheers.
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IllogicalKris said:
Hey, I am a tad bit confused here..
I currently have two Exchange Services.
1) com.google.android.gm.exchange
(ver. 6.5-1520254)
2) com.android.exchange
(ver. 4.4.4-6936)
I'm sure the second one is the one I can delete but was just unsure about the first one.
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The first works with gmail exchange second is for email app exchange. Should be no issue deleting both. I use 1 and delete 2.
Do not remove g+ on lolipop if you want photos to work. They are linked
I'm planning to root my Huawei P8 Lite and remove all Google apps. I have some questions about this.
Since I will be using the stock ROM which was designed to be used with Google apps, what are the implications of removing them?
For example, there are some entries in settings that concern Google apps (keyboard, location, search, etc.). What will happen to those after I remove all Google apps?
I have never used stock ROM without Google apps so far, only CyanogenMod without Google apps on my old phone.
Also, what would be the best way to remove Google apps? I have have one way (olivier-m on GitHubGist, can't post a link), but it seems that this list is for ICS and JB. Is that list valid for Lollipop?
Thanks for help.
You need to root and get a root unistaller.
ward0 said:
You need to root and get a root unistaller.
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Yes, but how will that affect functionality of the phone?
If you don't want Google Apps, by an iPhone.
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bujamin said:
Yes, but how will that affect functionality of the phone?
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Obviously you will have to find a way to get your apps and updates. Further you should ensure that you have a different keyboard than the google one activated prior to deletion as well as a browser besides chrome etc.
Also make sure to always do a full backup before trying stuff like this. If it shouldn't work you can still ask us for further advice and reflash your backup.
PCSE said:
Obviously you will have to find a way to get your apps and updates. Further you should ensure that you have a different keyboard than the google one activated prior to deletion as well as a browser besides chrome etc.
Also make sure to always do a full backup before trying stuff like this. If it shouldn't work you can still ask us for further advice and reflash your backup.
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I already have all the alternative apps ready, I've been using F-Droid on my old phone for the last 2 years so that part is taken care of.
Thanks for the tip about the keyboard, I didn't know that. And of course, I will do a backup before trying anything.
headnotfound said:
If you don't want Google Apps, by an iPhone.
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Thank you, your contribution to this thread is invaluable.
bujamin said:
I already have all the alternative apps ready, I've been using F-Droid on my old phone for the last 2 years so that part is taken care of.
Thanks for the tip about the keyboard, I didn't know that. And of course, I will do a backup before trying anything.
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It'd be cool if you could keep us up to date on your experiences, since I'm personally interested in this matter.
Nothing bad would happen. I personally keep only Play Store and Google Play Services. I don't need other Google crap such as News Stand, Play Books, Play Music, Gmail, Drive, Youtube and especially Play Movies, Hangouts and Photos. I keep Play Store to buy apps basically and Play Services for in game achievements
PCSE said:
It'd be cool if you could keep us up to date on your experiences, since I'm personally interested in this matter.
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I will. My plan is to backup, root, uninstall Gapps and replace them with F-Droid + open source alternatives. I'm very busy though so it might take few days, just so you know.
Update: I gave up from removing Gapps for time being because I wasn't able to successfully root my phone. I will probably wait until the end of the year until there are more options available (rooting and ROMs). Until then, I disabled Gapps and I'm using alternatives from F-Droid.
mfbcool said:
Nothing bad would happen. I personally keep only Play Store and Google Play Services. I don't need other Google crap such as News Stand, Play Books, Play Music, Gmail, Drive, Youtube and especially Play Movies, Hangouts and Photos. I keep Play Store to buy apps basically and Play Services for in game achievements
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I hope you're right. Of course, I'll make a backup just in case.
I have finally rooted my P8lite and went on a quest of removing Google apps and other bloatware. I removed every app with Google in its name and soft bricked my phone. Luckily I managed to restore it and now I'm trying again, more carefully.
I will consult these lists:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1487073
http://blog.burrowsapps.com/2014/03/what-android-apps-are-safe-to-remove.html
http://androidforums.com/threads/bo...-de-bloat-your-boost-mobile-galaxy-s3.778877/
However, I would like input from someone knowledgeable on this subject because these lists are either not completely up-to-date not specifically for Huawei.
bujamin said:
However, I would like input from someone knowledgeable on this subject because these lists are either not completely up-to-date not specifically for Huawei.
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I rooted my phone and removed a lot of (system) apps and bloatware. I didn't make a list of all the apps I removed, but I can advice you to install Link2SD app and use the "Freeze" function for apps that you're unsure if they can be deleted. If you freeze the app and there's no strange behavior, it's probably safe to remove...
Hi Please help me, my google play store does not want to download anything, i tried factory restart and clearing the cache and clearing the data, but still not luck.
TIA
Looks like no more market for pre-NGP devices.
https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2017/06/ending-support-for-android-market-on.html
similardilemma said:
Looks like no more market for pre-NGP devices.
https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2017/06/ending-support-for-android-market-on.html
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Thanks for posting this. I wondered when the final axe would fall. Well, it's simpler if GApps are not installed anyway and it was getting more and more temperamental. All the more reason for people to share packages of apps that they are using which work well on the device so we can side-load them. They can't take that away!
Does anyone know if this will affect the license check-in for paid apps? :/
Wondering about Titanium Backup Pro especially, it seems to check in on almost every boot. It would suck if we couldn't use it on the Nook Touch anymore, even though there are some clumsy alternatives.
Oops! Tried installing the 1337 ROM from 9th April 2015... No support for Android Market makes the rom unusable
Definitely backup your entire device + your original recovery before installing clockworkmod or 1337 ROM
I will now rever to stock and probably use Nook Manager to root the stock ROM.
Such a shame, I was super excited ot try out what seemed to be the best NST ROM out there
If it wasn't for ending the support for google apps, it might have been a great improvement, oh well...
Anyone with similar experience?
similardilemma said:
Looks like no more market for pre-NGP devices.
https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2017/06/ending-support-for-android-market-on.html
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July 2 and I can still use SearchMarket and install market apps....wonder if working installations are going to continue hobbling along?
Seems like it's gone for me. The market search function at least. The gmail app still works though.
How would you go about unlinking the NST from a google account all together?
It's not registered in the google device manager online, so I can't unlink it there.
I'm worried that things will start to wrong now when the framework is not supported anymore.
PremiumMediocre said:
Seems like it's gone for me. The market search function at least. The gmail app still works though.
How would you go about unlinking the NST from a google account all together?
It's not registered in the google device manager online, so I can't unlink it there.
I'm worried that things will start to wrong now when the framework is not supported anymore.
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I'm surprised your gmail works. I could never keep mine going. It would retrieve mail OK but would only send for a few days and then have to be reinstalled to work for a few more days.
The only concern I have is GoogleBooks, but so far it's OK. I'm not sure you need Market access to sync mail or books, but down the line these older applications may be rejected as security concerns. Time will tell.
So far I see no sign of weirdness.
Edit: OK, today (July 4) my NST is officially independent of the Market. No server contact. However, Google Books still works at this point. I'm not sure you should do anything. You could uninstall SearchMarket but that's about it. After all, lots of people are signed into Google on various devices to get mail but do not access the PlayStore. Famous last words
I have disabled both MarketUpdater.apk and Vending.apk (found in /system/app) by renaming them as *.OLD. After a reboot I have seen no problems running the few apps I had actually obtained from the PlayStore or those I side-loaded. Note I do not have any for-pay apps.
It may be possible to also disable Talk.apk and any adjuncts as this is used to interface with the Market, but I'm not there yet. A good goal would be to quiet down any behind-the-scenes activity by apps that can't connect any longer but keep trying to phone home just to be sure. At the same time I'm trying to maintain sync capability so that, for example, Google Books will continue to work for as long as possible. This, it seems to me, is the only remaining reason to bother with the GApps package at all since Google Sync is enabled with it.
Hello everyone. A few days ago i took my phone wich was lying around in the dust (x10 mini pro). Happily switched on, connected to internet and hit on market, just to realize this happened.
So, is there some market for 2.1-update? I was thinking about F-droid, but, how about this?
PD: sorry for my english
Sirius_Balzier said:
Hello everyone. A few days ago i took my phone wich was lying around in the dust (x10 mini pro). Happily switched on, connected to internet and hit on market, just to realize this happened.
So, is there some market for 2.1-update? I was thinking about F-droid, but, how about this?
PD: sorry for my english
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See https://forum.xda-developers.com/nook-touch/general/regain-market-acccess-nst-g-t3662594
nmyshkin said:
See https://forum.xda-developers.com/nook-touch/general/regain-market-acccess-nst-g-t3662594
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Thanks bro. I will try it soon :fingers-crossed: