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Ok I aint joking but seriously what is the point of overclocking a Desire z/G2. Unless I am running on a slow phone I don't see the point. Stock speed never lags and i haven't seen any difference between 1.5 ghz vs 800mhz.
The only time when 1.5ghz clock speed is useful is when i running quadrant and rubbing its scores infront of my friends face.
There is any areas where you can actually see the performance difference?
bluntly, if you dont see the point of it then you don't need it.
For others, sometimes you run alot of stuff in the background and still want to be able to have your main app perform at its best level.
There is also the minute tweaking of speed and snappiness of the interface. The idea of instant reaction when you open your message app, or your email, or anything.
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Ok I aint joking but seriously what is the point of overclocking a Desire z/G2. Unless I am running on a slow phone I don't see the point. Stock speed never lags and i haven't seen any difference between 1.5 ghz vs 800mhz.
The only time when 1.5ghz clock speed is useful is when i running quadrant and rubbing its scores infront of my friends face.
There is any areas where you can actually see the performance difference?
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Heavy multitasking
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flash video seems pretty laggy to me at 800...
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking
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Best link ever! I hope i can remember it long enough to use it sometime.
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Ya i know what overclocking is but I haven't found one instances where I needed it to run an app. G2 is already damn fast and it runs android with no lag but I really see no point until more demanding ver. of android come out.
I just wanted to see who overclocks their G2 everyday and for what purpose.
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Ya i know what overclocking is but I haven't found one instances where I needed it to run an app. G2 is already damn fast and it runs android with no lag but I really see no point until more demanding ver. of android come out.
I just wanted to see who overclocks their G2 everyday and for what purpose.
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Fair question IMHO.
I don't see the difference when overclocking, or rather I don't feel it. Software does make a difference, but not the extra 200-500Mhz. I do feel however the battery drain
It always makes me laugh when somebody asks a legitimate question and you get silly responses like the above 2. It's as if these people feel threatened and have to justify that they are more knowledgeable than the op. The facts of the matter are most of the tweaks, mods and alterations are wholly unnecessary in the real world.
If you don't feel like it makes it better then you don't have to use it. I use it because I feel it makes everything just a little snappier and more instant. If you don't notice a difference that's fine. It's probably trivial for me to notice the little hang ups but I can't help it.
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For me there's several reasons. For the most part, the reason for oc is because you can. But there are practical reasons as well. For example, with the stock ROM running at 800MHz, you're stuck with that. With an oc kernel and using SetCPU or built in clock settings in CM, you can adjust it as needed. Gonna play a game? Bump it up to 1GHz or so. Done with said game? Take it back down to 800MHz. But it's not all about oc. Sometimes there's a need to underclock. Getting low on battery and don't have a charger near by and need to squeeze another hour or two out of it? Maybe take it down to 768MHz or 600MHz (if you're running Pershoot's kernel).
Dungeon Defender:
800 mHz : not fun, laggy
1.5 gHz : fun, graphic are more smooth
Reasons for using over clocking:
Because I can
Because sometimes I do notice the difference in performance of the UI and some applications (wait for Sense 3.0 etc...)
Because I also use it to underclock.
Like everything else, a lot of it is perception. My wife cannot see any difference between our normal cable channels and the HD ones. I can (or am I just trying to convince myself that I can?). Oh well.
Finally some practical and helpful responses, showing an understanding of the need for information from some people.
here's my experience when it comes to overclocking. keep in mind that, like with your computer, it does vary from user to user... so I'm making these statements from MY experience, not making blanket statements regarding all of our devices:
- if you run multiple homescreens with multiple widgets and ui "smoothness," not just aesthetically, but performance-wise as well, is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you have several apps running at any given time (in background or foreground) and ui smoothness, same definition as above, is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you run any iteration of a sense rom in any configuration and ui smoothness is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you run PSX/N64 emulators and you don't want audio distortion or general lagginess, more aggressive (in my case, 1209 is a safe speed for maximizing performance without having a drastic effect on battery life) overclocking becomes necessary.
on AOSP builds, especially gingerbread-based, I don't think there is a necessity for more processing power than what we get from the factory if you're running a relatively slim setup and aren't using something like a PSX/N64 emulator regularly.
I run mine at 1ghz, but I did use 1.2ghz before. I do notice a slight performance difference. Overall tho I don't notice it much. I notice it more when I'm doing multiple things.
Nonsense!
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Finally some practical and helpful responses, showing an understanding of the need for information from some people.
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For all that you're talking, you have yet to provide anything of value to this conversation while you're sitting up there berating those other 2 posters.
Think about it.
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I run 1.1 because it is noticably faster. Everything opens faster and works smoother. My wife has a stock G2 and when I grab it to look something up on the web or to use maps when we're out, I instantly notice how mucher slower hers is.
Works for me so I use it.
I notice a definite performance boost on mine, but it also depends on which kernel/ROM you use. I was running meXroid for a few days and found that it got extremely laggy even overclocked with Flippy's kernel built in (1.9Ghz), plus my battery was dying faster than a Chuck Norris joke. PyroMod has always been reliable for me and I flashed back to 2.0 earlier and it's just as reliable and power-saving as ever.
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For all that you're talking, you have yet to provide anything of value to this conversation while you're sitting up there berating those other 2 posters.
Think about it.
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Thanks for that.
Hi guys and girls.
Today i noticed an owner of SGS2 mentioning an app called "2nd core" that works with the SGS2s that have a Tegra 2 processor.
Here's the description of what the app does:
[ Features ]
*Set on boot
Change mode what you selected automatically on boot time.
Menu > Settings
[ Modes ]
*Dynamic Hotplug Mode
Default. Recently, mobile multicore CPUs turn off extra core(s) to save battery life when system is not busy and only use 1 core.
They turn on extra core(s) when system is busy. so system use all cores again.
*Single Core Mode
Use 1 core always. A extra core is shut down. It makes battery life longer but performance is decreased.
*Dual Core Mode
Use 2 cores always. Performance is increased but battery life is shorter than others.
*Available kernels
Lulz Kernel Build 15 and over.
Unfortunately, it's only compatible with the SGS2 with the appropriate kernels but i was wondering if it's possible to get this ported for our phones?
Here's the link to the app on android market: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.tegrak.secondcore&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS50ZWdyYWsuc2Vjb25kY29yZSJd
Why buy a dual core phone if you wanna tweak it to using only one? That's plain stupid.
Not to mention how the Atrix got a bigger improved battery than that of the sgs2, 300mah to be exact. This phone is built for bith performace and efficiency thecway it is and cm7 improves that even more. No need for such an app IMO.
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I always thought dual core phones were more battery efficient vs single core phones. When handling tasks, two "brains" are better than one "brain". The workload is divided in half thus meaning less power used, no?
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Sounds great and dude don't flame on him that's a great idea why have the the phone working so much when you're not using it.Most apps aren't even optimized for the two cores except for a very small amount and some games.I would like to be able to have one core running until I decide to watch some HD video or play some graphic intensive games and then disable the app for that period of time.This would extend battery life and you can still get performance when you need it why have it running full blast all day if you're at work and can't be playing with your phone???? makes no sense...just saying,especially with people who Overclock and stuff like that more battery efficiency is always a +
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Why buy a dual core phone if you wanna tweak it to using only one? That's plain stupid.
Not to mention how the Atrix got a bigger improved battery than that of the sgs2, 300mah to be exact. This phone is built for bith performace and efficiency thecway it is and cm7 improves that even more. No need for such an app IMO.
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1. 320 extra battery life= no big deal!
2. SGS2 have SLCD+ (more energy efficient) compared to Atrix's Pentile Matrix, which consumes way more battery.
3. Plain stupid? Developers who have had an ingenious way to massively improve battery life by suppressing one core WHEN THE CORE IS NOT IN USE/ WHEN NOT NEEDED are plain stupid? God knows how you got 111 thanks!
4. With CM7 and without MotoBlur, the battery life has improved but not by much and battery life is 8-16 hours on CM7 depending on how much i use it. If this is what you call energy efficient, may God save the queen!
5. If you have nothing to contribute in terms of an intellectual debate, don't bother posting.
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Sounds great and dude don't flame on him that's a great idea why have the the phone working so much when you're not using it.Most apps aren't even optimized for the two cores except for a very small amount and some games.I would like to be able to have one core running until I decide to watch some HD video or play some graphic intensive games and then disable the app for that period of time.This would extend battery life and you can still get performance when you need it why have it running full blast all day if you're at work and can't be playing with your phone???? makes no sense...just saying,especially with people who Overclock and stuff like that more battery efficiency is always a +
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You got it spot on dude. I was wondering if we could get a group of Atrix 4G users to contact the Devs of the app to see if they can get us a port. What do you think?
Please be respectful of other members.
Jibraldor said:
1. 320 extra battery life= no big deal!
2. SGS2 have SLCD+ (more energy efficient) compared to Atrix's Pentile Matrix, which consumes way more battery.
3. Plain stupid? Developers who have had an ingenious way to massively improve battery life by suppressing one core WHEN THE CORE IS NOT IN USE/ WHEN NOT NEEDED are plain stupid? God knows how you got 111 thanks!
4. With CM7 and without MotoBlur, the battery life has improved but not by much and battery life is 8-16 hours on CM7 depending on how much i use it. If this is what you call energy efficient, may God save the queen!
5. If you have nothing to contribute in terms of an intellectual debate, don't bother posting.
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So either I agree with you in this or I simply shouldn't post? Thank God you're not a mod or anything for that matter.
Second off, again I'll say it. Disabling a core in a two core phone is in fact a stupid idea. I recognize how much work such an app would take but its plain stupid. Why? Because as it is, genius, the phone only uses the two cores on high frequencies e.g:800, 1000...etc. And those CANT be reached unless the phone is being played with, other than that you've got one hell of a problem that no app, rom or kernel would fix I'm afraid.
As for the thanks no, I've got them for helping out and lending a hand in this great community. Which is something I'm sure you'll never do/understand.
And as far as cm7 goes, it gives me and many others a full day 24-28 hours on a single charge. So I'd look more into what eating my battery than into disabling my phone if I were you. (Thank God I'm not)
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I was just posting a harmeless point of view no disrespect here
Jibraldor said:
You got it spot on dude. I was wondering if we could get a group of Atrix 4G users to contact the Devs of the app to see if they can get us a port. What do you think?
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Yea man it would be cool although we gotta take into consideration thetime it would take to develop an app like this for the atrix.....I doubt it would be easy and I'm sure it would take time for a Dev to put it together mayb if people are down to donate a little it might be an incentive....we'll see
The atrix actually disables one core when not in use. No need for a separate app.
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The atrix actually disables one core when not in use. No need for a separate app.
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That's correct, the atrix is doing this already thanks to faux's custom kernel. (All though I thought this was a function of the tegra2 chip, but maybe it had to be enabled which has been done through the kernel?)
Either way this app is not needed unless you want to micro manage what the kernel is already doing.
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So the faux kernel I have already does it.....oh wow ok so then that's great
Doesn't CPU Tuner have an option to use only one core as a profile? I have it checked off in my settings.
It does without the custom kernal download cpu gauge nd ull see its offline sometimes but jus touching the screen turns both cores to max.
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Post your benchmarks from various roms here
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Post your benchmarks from various roms here
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I'm reasonably sure one of these already exists, plus benchmarks mean nothing really. If you feel your phone performs well, then just leave it at that. For example, my friend's brand new One X crashed twice when trying to turn on/off airplane mode today, it's quite unbelievable. I personally think there isn't much point in getting a 10000 score on quadrant if your phone can't function properly in the first place.
Having said that, my score is 1137 with NexusHD2 full HWA, which isn't bad seeing as it's only a small amount off the Nexus S which has an updated CPU vs the HD2 as far as I know. The difference in 3D performance vs GB is stunning, the FPS has almost doubled and there's a significant visual difference.
I've searching for a while about a way to disable the companion core on tegra 3 SoC - force use of the high power cores exclusively. I didn't found it. Anyone have a idea?
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Why would you want to do that anyways? i might be able to suggest an alternative
I would like to try something. Sometime I feel slight lag and delay on my Nexus 7 compared with my Galaxy Nexus when doing some and same lightweight task.
I think its might be related with companion core. And also I would like to compare the overall performance and battery life when with and without this core.
Try using franco.kernel. Franco's hotplug doesn't call on the LP core at all, so you can think of it as disabled.
AnTuTu Benchmark from cm-10.1-20130908-NIGHTLY
Antutu score on stock.
Ye I also don't understand how I got that.
My scores usually hover between 19500 and 20500 though.
I added stock scores so people could have a reference atleast.
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My benchmarks: CM10.1-20130915-Nightly
Antutu: 20492
Quadrant: 5948
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Thats odd. Mine turned out much lower than usual:
I read the other day that Samsung use higher clock speeds with benchmark apps, higher than the phone runs normally, which in my eyes means benchmarks on these phones means jack squat! I was going to buy the S4 Mini but because of this I have lost faith in Samsung and have just ordered the HTC Mini. Will post the link when I get back home with what I read.
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rofl. If you would read more about this topic, you would find out, that samsung isn't the only one doing this. But I don't see the problem, because first of all I don't really care about benchmarks and secondly I think the purpose of a benchmark is to test the phone on the highest settings.
BamRom 4.3.1
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rofl. If you would read more about this topic, you would find out, that samsung isn't the only one doing this. But I don't see the problem, because first of all I don't really care about benchmarks and secondly I think the purpose of a benchmark is to test the phone on the highest settings.
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Maybe others do, but its not right. I use benchmarks when purchasing a phone, so do some others and companies know this, why else would they ramp up scores? And fine if they want to show off their highest settings, but not if these high settings dont actually run for more than 10 minutes before frying your phone. These aren't real world stats which is what they should be showing. I mean who are these high settings benchmarks ment to be for if not everyday users? Personally I think its a scam and ANY company that goes by these rules is shameful...
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Maybe others do, but its not right. I use benchmarks when purchasing a phone, so do some others and companies know this, why else would they ramp up scores? And fine if they want to show off their highest settings, but not if these high settings dont actually run for more than 10 minutes before frying your phone. These aren't real world stats which is what they should be showing. I mean who are these high settings benchmarks ment to be for if not everyday users? Personally I think its a scam and ANY company that goes by these rules is shameful...
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I can't really understand this whine about specific settings on benchmarks?! People who want the highest score disable everything, use the highest settings, overclock, use fresh install, delete all useless apps etc. Clearly these newbie phone benchmarkers have never done pc benchmarks. And if someone buys a phone because of it's benchmark score then clearly those don't have any idea about real life usage vs benchmarking.
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I can't really understand this whine about specific settings on benchmarks?! People who want the highest score disable everything, use the highest settings, overclock, use fresh install, delete all useless apps etc. Clearly these newbie phone benchmarkers have never done pc benchmarks. And if someone buys a phone because of it's benchmark score then clearly those don't have any idea about real life usage vs benchmarking.
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I myself have done many benchmarks both on PC and mobile phones and I myself use the scores I get and compare it against it's physical aspects. Everyone has their own way of buying a phone and you can't judge people for the way they do stuff.
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I read the other day that Samsung use higher clock speeds with benchmark apps, higher than the phone runs normally, which in my eyes means benchmarks on these phones means jack squat! I was going to buy the S4 Mini but because of this I have lost faith in Samsung and have just ordered the HTC Mini. Will post the link when I get back home with what I read.
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A benchmark is not a good reason to buy a phone, I think you are a fanboy trolling
features man that's the real deal, battery life, network, camera, memory, screen, style construction, etc.
not only a benchmark if you want the best bench score buy the full one not the mini
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Benchmarks mean something to me as well. They aren't guidelines to what phone I should choose, but the specifics can give me a good judgement for the aspect I'm intending to improve when upgrading my phone. I had an s3 mini before this and was disappointed by battery life versus performance. I could tell the difference by taking multiple benchmarks at different times during everyday use. I noticed when phones/ROMs have widely varying benchmarks then the battery life and performance would dwindle. The s3 mini on most ROMs would vary by approx 2000 points, and that's a lot.
It's worth noting that a custom ROM can affect the stability of a phones functioning a lot, but it is mostly due to the hardware used when a phone/computer has dwindling performance. The s4 mini for me, has had fairly stable performance and shows it with the battery life. My scores vary between approx 19800 and 20800 with moderate use.
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Results with @proxuser's kernel:
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Results with @proxuser's kernel:
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i get 21620 with oc 2ghz
Good!
Using Antutu for benchmarks on Samsung devices
You should not use Antutu to benchmark Samsung devices because they are unreliable as the stock ROM will score higher no matter what so if you want real benchmark results then use another program.
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Result: 21140
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Mine: 3816
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very good bencmarks, my mini duos is arriving, :laugh:
Here is screenshots of over clocked serrano-x kernel. It's still not stable but I can run 2ghz without reboots.
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