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Hello every one, a simple question, i have an iphone 3gs, and want to ask is it worth switching from iphone to desire hd ?
Iphone really bored me
ceva said:
Hello every one, a simple question, i have an iphone 3gs, and want to ask is it worth switching from iphone to desire hd ?
Iphone really bored me
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Simple answer Yes. This is my best phone yet.
just made the same switch, getting mine later today or tomorrow.. hope its not "android" lagging as engadget writes
anyone who says that this phone lags is a jack*ss. If you run a quadrant benchmark on the stock phone you get marks of around 2000 which beats a nexus one by around 600. I use the android revolution rom and get a score of around 2500. On linpack i get 75 megaflops. The "lagging" problem is solved by switching the usb debugging option on. This phone rocks!! With an adreno 205 graphics unit, 1 ghz processor(can be overclocked upto 1.53 ghz --- buzzoc) and 768 mb of ram..its the fastest phone on the market today
Yes, the hardware is top of the line on the DHD, but still im afraid of the OS, engadget (known Apple fans) wrote about the Naxus S -"touch response and general framerate on everything seems to be cranked closer to the vicinity of the iPhone 4....-with little of that Android-lag we've seen on earlier devices".
But after seeing some youtube clips on the DHD and not noticing any lagg what so ever, i ordered mine and hope that engadget just doesnt like Android in their reviews
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anyone who says that this phone lags is a jack*ss. If you run a quadrant benchmark on the stock phone you get marks of around 2000 which beats a nexus one by around 600. I use the android revolution rom and get a score of around 2500. On linpack i get 75 megaflops. The "lagging" problem is solved by switching the usb debugging option on. This phone rocks!! With an adreno 205 graphics unit, 1 ghz processor(can be overclocked upto 1.53 ghz --- buzzoc) and 768 mb of ram..its the fastest phone on the market today
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75 MFLOPS? What have you done with your phone??? I have Android Revolution 1.8 with the 1.1.1 Buzz Kernel 1,51Ghz running on Performance Mode (SetCPU) and I get around 53 MFLOPS ... ??
tvoben said:
just made the same switch, getting mine later today or tomorrow.. hope its not "android" lagging as engadget writes
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there is a bug called the init bug causing the lag, all you need to do is enable usb debugging mode from the development menu and it will go away for good, also animated live wallpaper are known to slow things down a notch, so leave that off
all android froyo phones after few days of usage might drop speed so when this happens all you need is to make a restart and it will be very fast again, the reboot takes a moment, also you should know this speed drop is not reflected inside the apps, only the main interface and it only happens when you've been using the phone heavily for a couple of days without a restart
gingerbread is said to have an app garbish cleaning mechanism that should hopefully fix this issue, HTC updated/updating its desire, legend and wildfire to froyo, so you should expect their flagship DHD to get the gingerbread update first
otherwise phone is blazing fast, fastest android phone on the block, equal or faster than the nexus S (the 2nd gen snapdragon is very optimized plus higher IO and more RAM, highly overclockable)
the GPU is also fast in theory the nexus S should be faster but all test are showing better results from the DHD's adreno 205 GPU, it runs quake 2 at 45-60fps, neocore at 58FPS, nenamark at 42FPS
Thanks for answers guys. I will switch my iphone tomorrow for this baby dhd
ceva said:
Thanks for answers guys. I will switch my iphone tomorrow for this baby dhd
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good choice
lots of info in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=864393
If I'm iphone4 user, I will not think twice to get the dhd. HTC ftw!
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I agree, DHD is a great phone (I come from Nokia and there is a huge difference), my best phone yet...
Try4Ce said:
75 MFLOPS? What have you done with your phone??? I have Android Revolution 1.8 with the 1.1.1 Buzz Kernel 1,51Ghz running on Performance Mode (SetCPU) and I get around 53 MFLOPS ... ??
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Well in setcpu .. in the performance mode increase max and min level both to maximum possible ...( i use the buzzoc 1.55 kernal ... that gives me 75 mflops)
EDIT: well and restart your phone before you run linpack
There, now im a user, lets hope i dont **** up the phone while rooting ;(
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Definitely yes for me. Previously I was using Windows Mobile 6.5
tvoben said:
There, now im a user, lets hope i dont **** up the phone while rooting ;(
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Try it without rooting first to see if you really need the DHD rooted. I have rooted mine but to be honest I still haven't done anything that needs root access. The OS gives you the opportunity to install non-market apps, so unless you want a custom ROM or overclocking, it makes little sense to root it. And if you decide to do it anyway, there are some good step-by-step guides in the development section on how to do it safely.
Anyway - enjoy your new phone! I know I do
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Okey. Might be wrong place to ask, but on my dhd the screen is beneith the case, hence my finger makes a sound against it while I swipe left if right.
Is it just mine or is it the design. ?
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Okey. Might be wrong place to ask, but on my dhd the screen is beneith the case, hence my finger makes a sound against it while I swipe left if right.
Is it just mine or is it the design. ?
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It's the design. The point in this is to keep it from scratching the screen while put upside-down. And if you install a screen protector, it lies completely inside that space, so it's leveled with the heightened "lip".
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tvoben said:
There, now im a user, lets hope i dont **** up the phone while rooting ;(
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Look what you can do though, its worth it
And yes it is a DHD
Awesome phone i got it today. But i can't really find some instructions how to install some theme or skin witch are at theme section, i know that my phone need to be ruted and all that, but can some one trow me few links with instructions please ? Thanks
Iphone might be more user friendly but android is more customisable. Plus desire hd has great hardware. Iphone is for followers, android is for leaders.
If you're a nerd and like to fiddle, android is for you, otherwise, stick to apple.
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I'm wondering what peoples quadrant standard numbers are. Please post your number and what rom your running.
Mines 2305 and I'm running CM 7
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I'm wondering what peoples quadrant standard numbers are. Please post your number and what rom your running.
Mines 2305 and I'm running CM 7
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Quadrant is a poor representation of how well a ROM really works. I've ran Cyanogen for years and can easily hit 3k plus. How ever i feel that OSs like VU are just as smooth and snappy at closing and opening apps. But that will pull 2.3k - 2.6k, maybe lower.
no hard feelings but quadrant isn't very popular around XDA due to how easily hackable, and how inaccurate it is. Neocore, and MFlop are more respected, but not by much.
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Quadrant is a poor representation of how well a ROM really works. I've ran Cyanogen for years and can easily hit 3k plus. How ever i feel that OSs like VU are just as smooth and snappy at closing and opening apps. But that will pull 2.3k - 2.6k, maybe lower.
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Apart from the ROM or kernel the score on any benchmark will also depend a lot on what else is going on on the phone. How many widgets are running? How many apps are running in the background? Is the CPU overclocked? ... Unless you switch basically everything off, benchmark scores are pretty worthless and comparing them with others does not make a lot of sense.
There is already a thread for this
my Atrix was flying before i had to send it in for warranty work a few weeks back. (digitizer) Antutu scores around 7000. the rest of the benchmark tests where pretty high also. When it was returned i immediately unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. Now my scores from Antutu are 4500 at best. I am using the exact same rom (Neutrino), and kernel (Faux123) as before. I have tried other roms (cm7 nightlies) reinstalled and full fastboot wipe many times but still the same outcome. The only difference i can see is that i used an different method to unlock the bootloader and root the second time around. Do you think the some of the permission where affected differently the second time around. Am i just overlooking something?
HELP!!!!!!
thks
Is the phone actually slower? Or just scoring lower scores?
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Benchmarks mean nothing
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Benchmarks mean nothing
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That was going to be my next statement.
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the phone actually feels slower. more laggy when it comes to videos, games, scrolling through menus. my fps scores are all lower across the board in any benckmark. yes i know they mean nothing but when the scores are that drastically effected there is an issue i believe.
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the phone actually feels slower. more laggy when it comes to videos, games, scrolling through menus. my fps scores are all lower across the board in any benckmark. yes i know they mean nothing but when the scores are that drastically effected there is an issue i believe.
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I have heard that refurbished phones USUALLY don't perform as well as the brand new ones do. Here is my example, a refurbished Atrix I read from some users can't even sometimes boot a custom kernel when the custom kernel is around 1.45 to 1.6. For example the one kernel that the dev clemsyn. I saw a FEW mention that when they said they had a refurbished Atrix.
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my Atrix was flying before i had to send it in for warranty work a few weeks back. (digitizer) Antutu scores around 7000. the rest of the benchmark tests where pretty high also. When it was returned i immediately unlocked the bootloader and rooted it. Now my scores from Antutu are 4500 at best. I am using the exact same rom (Neutrino), and kernel (Faux123) as before. I have tried other roms (cm7 nightlies) reinstalled and full fastboot wipe many times but still the same outcome. The only difference i can see is that i used an different method to unlock the bootloader and root the second time around. Do you think the some of the permission where affected differently the second time around. Am i just overlooking something?
HELP!!!!!!
thks
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There is a "Boost.sh" script included with Neutrino (I believe in /system/etc) that Notorious recommends be run when you get that "not so fresh" feeling. It is a defrag tool that can be assigned to a widget and should be run every so often.
Also, you will want to see if "Nitrocharger.sh" in the same directory is running as Root at Boot. I have seen big improvements by implementing this.
Both of these scripts came with the ROM, so hopefully you have fast access to them. Good luck to you!
thanks for the info fellow xdaers,,,,,
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I have heard that refurbished phones USUALLY don't perform as well as the brand new ones do. Here is my example, a refurbished Atrix I read from some users can't even sometimes boot a custom kernel when the custom kernel is around 1.45 to 1.6. For example the one kernel that the dev clemsyn. I saw a FEW mention that when they said they had a refurbished Atrix.
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Actually I had the opposite experience. My original phone wouldn't boot with the clemsyn kernel. My digitizer bombed and I received a refurbished unit from repairs. The new unit runs the clemsyn kernel just fine. So I guess it's just the luck of the draw...
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There is a "Boost.sh" script included with Neutrino (I believe in /system/etc) that Notorious recommends be run when you get that "not so fresh" feeling. It is a defrag tool that can be assigned to a widget and should be run every so often.
Also, you will want to see if "Nitrocharger.sh" in the same directory is running as Root at Boot. I have seen big improvements by implementing this.
Both of these scripts came with the ROM, so hopefully you have fast access to them. Good luck to you!
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gentledroid17 said:
the phone actually feels slower. more laggy when it comes to videos, games, scrolling through menus. my fps scores are all lower across the board in any benckmark. yes i know they mean nothing but when the scores are that drastically effected there is an issue i believe.
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As tob said, those "so verry little script" can makes big differences sometimes
I would like to add my personal toughts, for me, the ROM actually scoring higher and higher and feel a litle bit more freshier each week past within the ROM... so my thoughts would be, the cache partition, the more longer the rom is implemented, the more score you'll get cause the cache slowly become bigger and bigger giving you full power to open something tough!
As for the battery, from my experiences, you can't really judge a battery life while you just flashed a rom, you got to wait until the first week to see if there a big changes between the other ROM you came from ... so my guess would be, those scripts and the longer the ROM is implemented on your phone, the more fast and stable it will get, and you will feel the power slowly coming out again!
My bad if I'm completely wrong, but it is my guess!
Hood luck with your "new" phone
i brought up some old Antutu scores and notice that my ram. cpu integar and floating point scores are extremely low. i have tried multiple kernels but still no change. now i am even more confused......doesn't take much. could it be that my cpu is locked so i can not overclock. it kinda feels like its only utilizing one core.
after weeks of exhaustive searching i finally found a fix that worked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1131649
pdsfix.zip
now my antutu scores are back up to around 7000. less lag in app drawer and opening /closing certain app. its back to silky smooth yeehaw.
AnTuTu Benchmark from cm-10.1-20130908-NIGHTLY
Antutu score on stock.
Ye I also don't understand how I got that.
My scores usually hover between 19500 and 20500 though.
I added stock scores so people could have a reference atleast.
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My benchmarks: CM10.1-20130915-Nightly
Antutu: 20492
Quadrant: 5948
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Thats odd. Mine turned out much lower than usual:
I read the other day that Samsung use higher clock speeds with benchmark apps, higher than the phone runs normally, which in my eyes means benchmarks on these phones means jack squat! I was going to buy the S4 Mini but because of this I have lost faith in Samsung and have just ordered the HTC Mini. Will post the link when I get back home with what I read.
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rofl. If you would read more about this topic, you would find out, that samsung isn't the only one doing this. But I don't see the problem, because first of all I don't really care about benchmarks and secondly I think the purpose of a benchmark is to test the phone on the highest settings.
BamRom 4.3.1
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rofl. If you would read more about this topic, you would find out, that samsung isn't the only one doing this. But I don't see the problem, because first of all I don't really care about benchmarks and secondly I think the purpose of a benchmark is to test the phone on the highest settings.
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Maybe others do, but its not right. I use benchmarks when purchasing a phone, so do some others and companies know this, why else would they ramp up scores? And fine if they want to show off their highest settings, but not if these high settings dont actually run for more than 10 minutes before frying your phone. These aren't real world stats which is what they should be showing. I mean who are these high settings benchmarks ment to be for if not everyday users? Personally I think its a scam and ANY company that goes by these rules is shameful...
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Maybe others do, but its not right. I use benchmarks when purchasing a phone, so do some others and companies know this, why else would they ramp up scores? And fine if they want to show off their highest settings, but not if these high settings dont actually run for more than 10 minutes before frying your phone. These aren't real world stats which is what they should be showing. I mean who are these high settings benchmarks ment to be for if not everyday users? Personally I think its a scam and ANY company that goes by these rules is shameful...
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I can't really understand this whine about specific settings on benchmarks?! People who want the highest score disable everything, use the highest settings, overclock, use fresh install, delete all useless apps etc. Clearly these newbie phone benchmarkers have never done pc benchmarks. And if someone buys a phone because of it's benchmark score then clearly those don't have any idea about real life usage vs benchmarking.
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I can't really understand this whine about specific settings on benchmarks?! People who want the highest score disable everything, use the highest settings, overclock, use fresh install, delete all useless apps etc. Clearly these newbie phone benchmarkers have never done pc benchmarks. And if someone buys a phone because of it's benchmark score then clearly those don't have any idea about real life usage vs benchmarking.
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I myself have done many benchmarks both on PC and mobile phones and I myself use the scores I get and compare it against it's physical aspects. Everyone has their own way of buying a phone and you can't judge people for the way they do stuff.
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I read the other day that Samsung use higher clock speeds with benchmark apps, higher than the phone runs normally, which in my eyes means benchmarks on these phones means jack squat! I was going to buy the S4 Mini but because of this I have lost faith in Samsung and have just ordered the HTC Mini. Will post the link when I get back home with what I read.
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A benchmark is not a good reason to buy a phone, I think you are a fanboy trolling
features man that's the real deal, battery life, network, camera, memory, screen, style construction, etc.
not only a benchmark if you want the best bench score buy the full one not the mini
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Benchmarks mean something to me as well. They aren't guidelines to what phone I should choose, but the specifics can give me a good judgement for the aspect I'm intending to improve when upgrading my phone. I had an s3 mini before this and was disappointed by battery life versus performance. I could tell the difference by taking multiple benchmarks at different times during everyday use. I noticed when phones/ROMs have widely varying benchmarks then the battery life and performance would dwindle. The s3 mini on most ROMs would vary by approx 2000 points, and that's a lot.
It's worth noting that a custom ROM can affect the stability of a phones functioning a lot, but it is mostly due to the hardware used when a phone/computer has dwindling performance. The s4 mini for me, has had fairly stable performance and shows it with the battery life. My scores vary between approx 19800 and 20800 with moderate use.
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Results with @proxuser's kernel:
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Results with @proxuser's kernel:
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i get 21620 with oc 2ghz
Good!
Using Antutu for benchmarks on Samsung devices
You should not use Antutu to benchmark Samsung devices because they are unreliable as the stock ROM will score higher no matter what so if you want real benchmark results then use another program.
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Result: 21140
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Anyone yet tested OpenGL ES 3.0 on Antutu, what kind of scores are you getting
Mine: 3816
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very good bencmarks, my mini duos is arriving, :laugh:
Here is screenshots of over clocked serrano-x kernel. It's still not stable but I can run 2ghz without reboots.
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Hello everyone, I just recently updated my note 4 N910C to lollipop, and I Tested it to see its benchmark score on Antitumor, but I'm really disappointed to see that it scored a total of 38738. Its even low than galaxy s5. Whats wrong?
mujikhalid said:
Hello everyone, I just recently updated my note 4 N910C to lollipop, and I Tested it to see its benchmark score on Antitumor, but I'm really disappointed to see that it scored a total of 38738. Its even low than galaxy s5. Whats wrong?
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Does your device perform slow?No?Why the **** do you care about useless benchmarks....your device got a lower score than the S5 so what?Numbers don't equal performance...try doing a ful wipe if you already didn't...
There are already threads about this and you don''t care to search the forum before posting the same thread?
Woah dude, chill , dont be so pissed if you got to see a same thread on the forum lol
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Woah dude, chill , dont be so pissed if you got to see a same thread on the forum lol
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Nah..I'm not pissed lol...sorry if I sounded like that it's just that those benchmarks are useless.Judge the device by the way you see how it performs in everyday use not by a number you got from a benchmark app...and also as I mentioned there are already threads about this so use the search function
Your note 4 shipped with 4.4. Its built for 4.4. Use 4.4
The rampant lust for updates, and the subsequent disappointment that follows is draining
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Your note 4 shipped with 4.4. Its built for 4.4. Use 4.4
The rampant lust for updates, and the subsequent disappointment that follows is draining
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I don't have any problem with the 5.0.1 in Note 4. I'm coming from Galaxy S5 and there is no way the Note 4 is performing worse than the S5. Its way faster.
I agree that benchmark points is useless and says little about the performance of the device.
Man i have the same problem here it seems that the phone is always in power saving mode and the gpu is limited to 350 mhz instead of 700 mhz. Also the cpu runs at 1.3 ghz instead of 1.9 for the big cores thats why it has low score in antutu hope somebody figures out a solution and also this is a bug in this update
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meh
You guys are just being paranoid, I even noticed that it got faster after the lollipop update, I would never care for benchmark numbers as long as I am satisfied with the performance in real world, benchmarks can be influenced by many factors and I barely trust them (and ofc I am talking about Android benchmarks)
Edit: I just tried running a benchmark in Antutu and got 37940, ran it again and guess what? I got 44304, how can I trust this? LOL (I knew it would be way different from a benchmark to another, as it used to happen with me on my old HTC One X, since then I never trust these benchmarks). Just enjoy your phone and stop looking for non-existent problems.
mujikhalid said:
Hello everyone, I just recently updated my note 4 N910C to lollipop, and I Tested it to see its benchmark score on Antitumor, but I'm really disappointed to see that it scored a total of 38738. Its even low than galaxy s5. Whats wrong?
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Many places in xda I read about this antutu score, i want to know what will i get if my phone get 100000 score?we can win any price?
Thanks
its a bug
enable power saving mode and turn off cpu limit then turn off power saving mode back
go to developer option and reduce the animation to .5 sec
redo your test
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its a bug
enable power saving mode and turn off cpu limit then turn off power saving mode back
go to developer option and reduce the animation to .5 sec
redo your test
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I tried all above, but still get 37K score. most degradation is in 3D graphics. Also in UX and single thread CPU.
Still can not understand why it happens.
I did the same thing nothing changed
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so what were you expecting? A 75k + score after you updated?
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so what were you expecting? A 75k + score after you updated?
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Of course not, we expected the score to be at least the same !
Except the score you can notice that fps has dropped in games.
It also has some problems definitely, I have hangouts crashing several times a day.
UX runtime is much lower in my case also.
Benchmark scores are 100% useless.
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Benchmark scores are 100% useless.
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no they are not useless and I can see that on practice, performance has slowed down just like benchmark scores got lower.
Benchmark can precisely tell and measure the performance, that's it's purpose. In my case I can feel the difference not only in benchmark scores bat in practice also.
Same for me. Tried fresh wipe, re-odin, etc
Benchmarks are 100% useful and in the fact the performance has gotten worse on the beastly note 4 it feels same as note 3 is that even called update anymore. The frames per second for big games is just arownd 20 fps its very disapointinf
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Benchmarks are 100% useful and in the fact the performance has gotten worse on the beastly note 4 it feels same as note 3 is that even called update anymore. The frames per second for big games is just arownd 20 fps its very disapointinf
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exactly what I was talking about !
Is anyone concerned about it and planning something or has samsung officials made any comment about this issue ?
Try this method & let me know about gpu bug.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3075440