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Is nexus 7 quality that bad?

I've ordered one and I'm looking around here and.. what happens with this tablet? 90% of them have an important screen / battery / software problem?
I am REALLY scared of what I am receiving after reading this section...

Don't be, the number of people on XDA are but a small percentage of those that purchase the tablet.
I bought mine very early on, my friend bought his just recently from a completely different retailer and he has no issues.
If you read enough and look hard enough, you may convince yourself something is wrong with your tablet when there may not be.
So get your device, enjoy using it, and is there something really wrong with it if when using it, everything is working as it should?

nope, i LOVE my N7! i use it almost everyday...more so than my acer iconia 10". the N7 is fast, light, and screen is awesome. the ONLY thing i dont like is the non-standard charging "mechanism" that it uses. i hate not being able to just grab a normal micro usb cord and charger and just charging it. other than that...no complaints.

Quality is great.
Go for it!
I've had mine since day one and no problems at all. Not only that, but I've installed it in the dash of my car and it's held up great.

No its no bad. There are defective devices out there. But the quality is not bad f you get a working one. That sorta contradicts its self but you know what i mean.
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When you have 1% of devices that could potentially be lemons... coupled with the fact a substantial amount of that 1% are XDA members... it's easy for a device to look bad when in the grand scheme of things, it's not. Don't get me wrong, I'm not exactly a non-frustrated user. My screen magically cracked today somewhere between me holding it at the kitchen counter vs walking to my car, yet I never dropped it. That doesn't deter me away from buying another one since after all, mine was from the first gen batch, which if an issue is going to exist... it'll be there.

if you picky about minor issue, i think you should wait till at least October to be sure the problem is fixed. My has a minor screen lifted and there is a little static noise when turn the screen on/off. Other than that, it a good tablet. Yeah go for it.

Screen lift is ridiculously common, but that's the only really popular issue. Fortunately, there are flush screens out there, and it's not guaranteed to be a serious problem down the road even if you do get one that's a little loose on the left side.
Although there are fewer reports of lift in C8 units, the underlying cause has not been addressed. There was a big thread about this earlier today.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1856203
I had three units with screen lift and was unwilling to tolerate it, so now I'm waiting to repurchase until they get this cleared up. If you read through the first two pages of that thread you'll find that I asked the first person who claimed to have a flush C8 unit for photo verification, and that photo revealed screen lift. That was disappointing. I was hoping these newer ones with updated packaging were mostly fixed.
Most people who claim to have flush screens haven't actually checked, but that says something about how minor it usually is. Since you ordered from the Play store, you won't have to deal with ASUS if the worst case scenario happens (a cracked screen), and a hair of separation shouldn't prevent you from enjoying an otherwise great device, so long as you're confident in the warranty.
It really is a great tablet. I wish I'd kept my second unit from the Play store, the one with the least separation, because I really enjoyed having it.

droidnext said:
if you picky about minor issue, i think you should wait till at least October to be sure the problem is fixed. My has a minor screen lifted and there is a little static noise when turn the screen on/off. Other than that, it a good tablet. Yeah go for it.
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What is that static on unlock? Mines just developed it. Its really annoying!

RusherDude said:
I've ordered one and I'm looking around here and.. what happens with this tablet? 90% of them have an important screen / battery / software problem?
I am REALLY scared of what I am receiving after reading this section...
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Well, keep in mind that when people who are not XDA regulars have a problem they hit up Google and XDA links are generally on the top of the list for ANY Android device, so they come here to ask and/or complain about it. Then you have XDA regulars who tend to be techie types who are VERY picky about having perfection in their toys. So things the average Joe wouldn't even know is a problem can come across like its the end of the world. Finally, as many point out, you only see the problems because people don't generally come here to post "everything's fine" unless they are being snarky (like a thread I posted a while back) or just that rare person who does that sort of thing...usually as a counter balance to all the negative posts.
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RusherDude said:
I've ordered one and I'm looking around here and.. what happens with this tablet? 90% of them have an important screen / battery / software problem?
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It's like if you visit a new country and the first thing you do is walk into a hospital... "what's wrong with this country? Everyone here is sick."
This forum is where the few people who have problems gather to discuss them, and they are a very small percentage of Nexus 7 owners. It's just that people for whom the device is working fine don't post every day and talk about their experience, while people having problems do.

Okay, thank you everyone for your replies!
It's a shame but I think what you say is true: even if this is a hi-grade tecnology forum, only the people with problems talk and talk about them, while the people without problems only reply them maybe some times and never talks about that anymore.
Anyway, I kinda hate when you guys say "Mine is ok! only the left side is a bit loose", "Its great! only the screen fails after 2h of use", "Its amazing, yet the screen cracks everytime time I touch it on this sire.."
250~$ is not enough to expect a FULL QUALITY DEVICE? I owned an iPad and a Galaxy Tab and I had never had to expect or to suffer a minor problem, and you're talking about really important screen problems (a curved / loosing side / cracking side / etc. screen has A LOT of more % of cracking, or getting dead pixels, or having another problems).
I honestly don't understand that mentallity. We are not talking about a 5$ device (and even there we could have a discussion), ¡¡its more than 250 dollars!!
I think that if this problems happen is because people accepts it like that.

RusherDude said:
I've ordered one and I'm looking around here and.. what happens with this tablet? 90% of them have an important screen / battery / software problem?
I am REALLY scared of what I am receiving after reading this section...
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90% of people in threads whining about issues have a problem. Not anywhere close to 90% of the tablets have an issue.
How many other people are going to read a thread about defects other than the ones with defects?

I got my N7.
C80.. flawless.. perfect.
Nothing more to add. You guys scared me hard for what was I getting.. and at the end, a perfect one .

People seldom post when things are working as they should. However when things go wrong....
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my c60 is perfect.
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im one of the unlucky ones.
i have blown speaker problem.
its such an unlucky issue.
problem with this is, its not easily detectable.
it was working fine. been using it for exactly 28 days and suddenly the speaker start making cracking sound when volume >40%.
its like a time bom and may happen again even if i get a replacement unit from google.

got c50 nexus 7 should i get a replacement?

Hey all I ordered met nexus 7 about 2 weeks ago and I love it. I do have a slight screen lift issue thought. Not as bad as others that had posted but enough to bother me.
I was reading up on the forums and how people were saying there different models (date manufactured). So I decide to see what number I got. I thought I would at least have a c60 or c70 model but I noticed a c50. I thought c60 was the earliest model?
What do u guys suggest? I during?I'd noticed that when I got it that there was 2 things of security tape on it (very overlapping so it only looked like 1but there was 2) and that there was 2 fingerprints on the copper heat tape next to the battery.
Does anyone know if the c80 fixed the screen issue for sure. Also how is Asus return work out. I had to RMA a bad motherboard to them before and it was the worse RMA I ever did.
Thanks guys and lmk what u think

Hi mate,
Well if it's got screen lift, that's a good enough reason to send it back. There is always the chance that you will shatter the screen if you tighten the screws up......
Yeah, I thought that C60 was the earliest model that they made. Obviously not. Looks like you were unlucky getting such an early model, this late on.
There are still some problems with the C80 lot, but not as common as they were in the previous versions. Can't you return it to the shop, or Google that you bought it from? You'll still be within the 28 days return. I was out and they still accepted it back without any hassle (Tesco UK)

I got a c5 model as well. I've had it for almost 3 weeks now. Was pretty upset at first when I got it because it was actually my second replacement from the Google store. Everything was fine until recently when I started to have the touch screen issues and the headphone out only outputs the right channel. Contacted Google again a couple days ago and they are gonna let me swap it again.
At this point, I don't care when it was made as long as it has no issues (major issues).
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

Getting a newer SSN doesn't guarantee that you won't have issues. The screen lift is minor compared to screen flicker, bad pixels, etc.

mi7chy said:
Getting a newer SSN doesn't guarantee that you won't have issues. The screen lift is minor compared to screen flicker, bad pixels, etc.
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The first part is correct. Although it seems that many units have been opened and checked for obvious cases of separation, nothing has been done to solve the problem. ASUS has been rather curiously leaving screws off the left side recently, but that has not been a permanent solution for most users.
As for your statement that screen lift is minor, I don't know why you're still spreading this misinformation.
By no means is it guaranteed to cause problems, but there have been many reports of lifted displays cracking during normal use. Although the likelihood of this happening is unclear at this point, we know for a fact that this flaw has potentially serious consequences, and that ASUS will not accept responsibility under any circumstances.
Cracked screen... will ASUS fix it?
Nexus 7 screen cracks easily
The "it's broken already" thread
I have not heard anything about Google's coverage of this issue, aside from erica_renee's screen cracking right away, seen here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1858400&page=4
They handled her case generously, but that was a freshly unboxed unit so maybe they made an exception. Also, she said that her unit didn't even have lift, so I don't mean to imply that the cause of her broken glass was screen lift. It could have been an anomaly rather than a widespread flaw.
Although it would be useful to know definitively how Google intends to handle a lifted screen cracking within warranty, it's infinitely more likely that you'll be taken care of if you purchased from the Play store. I think that if your lift is truly minor and you're going to be dealing with Google as a possible safety net, tolerating this flaw is an acceptable risk. But you'll have to make up your own mind.

pxlitup said:
By no means is it guaranteed to cause problems, but there have been many reports of lifted displays cracking during normal use. Although the likelihood of this happening is unclear at this point, we know for a fact that this flaw has potentially serious consequences, and that ASUS will not accept responsibility under any circumstances.
Cracked screen... will ASUS fix it?
Nexus 7 screen cracks easily
The "it's broken already" thread
I have not heard anything about Google's coverage of this issue, aside from erica_renee's screen cracking right away, seen here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1858400&page=4
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Sales of the Nexus 7 will soon reach record number for a Android tablet, and all you could find me is 3 links then call it "many reports of lifted dispalys"?
Pxlitup...I see you're up and early trying to put fear into people.
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shook187 said:
Sales of the Nexus 7 will soon reach record number for a Android tablet, and all you could find me is 3 links then call it "many reports of lifted dispalys"?
Pxlitup...I see you're up and early trying to put fear into people.
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Those links are focused and informative. Posting any more than three would look cluttered.
But since you asked nicely, here are some more links worth considering.
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All these threads are all sounding alike. "How many returns have you made" or "screen lift this" or "screen lift that"
Pxlitup, are you on some kind of "screen lift" campaign? Dude just buy a different tablet and move on. You're in every thread talking about screen lift even if the OP has no intention of talking about this subject.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30821304&postcount=3
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pxlitup been on a mission from the screen separation gods to preach the word of screen separation on every thread.
I went on my own mission to find a perfectly flat screen. After the 5th N7 at various Walmart and staples I've came to the conclusion no N7 will be perfectly flat they all have a slight lift towards the center one the left side.
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As everyone can see, this is the third time you've confronted me like this. And your tone has been increasingly hostile.
Ironically, this grudge you're nursing began with me helping you to inspect your own unit. You discovered that you have screen lift thanks to my help, and you've been popping up to berate me ever since. I don't know where this hostility came from, since our first exchange spanned the course of a single page and I was nothing but friendly throughout. Here is the final post of our first interaction:
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Don't mistake my motives. I'm glad that you are happy with your purchase.
I'm only notifying you of the possible risks, which I believe warrant a mention since they do exceed the concerns of normal wear and tear.
Remember that internationally this tablet can cost much more than you or I paid for it. It's important for people to be able to make an informed decision about whether or not to purchase it, and you being honest about your screen inspection, even though you think I'm being OCD, was very helpful in that regard. You would be surprised at how many people believe facts are subjective when tech company loyalties come into play.
Hopefully your tablets won't give you any trouble. Your lift is certainly not as severe as many of the units from July that are still going strong.
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I don't know how we got here, but here we are. If you do decide to continue doing this, I will report you.
For anyone interested, here is the photo you originally uploaded to prove that your screen was flawless. The very minor separation has been circled.
And here is a record of your budding fascination with me, pulling my pigtails and so forth. You can edit your posts if you want, but it's all there.

Just to clarify, having c50 or c60 doesn't mean that it's going to be faulty. My third n7 (first two were f...) is c60 and flawless so far. Screen is perfectly aligned and I don't have any ghosting nor other problems.

My 16gb N7 is also C6O & it is almost perfect. No dead pixels & only the extremely tiniest lift only visible if viewed at just the right angle. Not even an issue. My 8gb is also a C6O & no lift or problems

Does your Nexus 4 have a yellow tint ?

Should i return it ? everything else seems to work perfect, the yellowness annoys me a little but at the same time i dont think its that bad but my screen is more yellow than the one at the t-mobile store. I wanted to know what xda thinks.
Does anyone else have the same problem ? did you keep your nexus or return ?
I have read some other threads but i havent seen anyone state whether they decided to keep their nexus despite the yellowness.
p.s that a galaxy s2 next to the nexus

I remember others saying they had the same issue and someone explained that the yellow tint is caused by glue within the display and another component, IIRC.
How long have you had the phone, since it's supposed to go away after a while.

sideslippy said:
I remember others saying they had the same issue and someone explained that the yellow tint is caused by glue within the display and another component, IIRC.
How long have you had the phone, since it's supposed to go away after a while.
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Ive had the phone for almost 4 days

the tint is probably normal, mine was like that as well. thats what people have called a 'natural display' on xda while the entire techblogosphere has bashed google for it. the good news is you can calibrate it. i have made my panel shine, i love it dearly. if you are rooted give it a crack.

S4 (i9505) arriving soon, problems to look out for?

Finally got to order my very first smartphone, the S4 (i9505 Black Mist)! It's going to be here in a few days, and I couldn't be more excited. However, browsing through this forum and others, it seems there's been a number of problems people have pointed out, or hinted at. I was just wondering if anyone had a compilation of them to look out for, so I'll know whether to return a defective/bad unit. Some of the issues I probably won't notice at all, however, if they're and I can test for them, I'd like to do so and return the phone if they are present. I'd rather not have my first phone come out of the box already having problems, especially since I'm paying full retail price for it.
Thank you very much in advance to whoever can list the problems and means to test/look for them.

....or at least a link to a site that lists the common issues.

One of the biggest problems seems to be dead pixels or random green/purple tints on pure white. There may also be some smearing problems.
You can search for these using Dead pixel tester.
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1337RYoN said:
One of the biggest problems seems to be dead pixels or random green/purple tints on pure white. There may also be some smearing problems.
You can search for these using Dead pixel tester.
Please press thanks if I helped you!
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Read about that as well. Weren't there some other graphical bugs/issues that indicated a faulty unit? Such as "smearing" or the AMOLED display not going completely dark when it's supposed to?

Suchomimus said:
Finally got to order my very first smartphone, the S4 (i9505 Black Mist)! It's going to be here in a few days, and I couldn't be more excited. However, browsing through this forum and others, it seems there's been a number of problems people have pointed out, or hinted at. I was just wondering if anyone had a compilation of them to look out for, so I'll know whether to return a defective/bad unit. Some of the issues I probably won't notice at all, however, if they're and I can test for them, I'd like to do so and return the phone if they are present. I'd rather not have my first phone come out of the box already having problems, especially since I'm paying full retail price for it.
Thank you very much in advance to whoever can list the problems and means to test/look for them.
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Don't look for problems, but enjoy.
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eejee said:
Don't look for problems, but enjoy.
Verstuurd van mijn GT-P5100 met Tapatalk
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I was just about to say the same thing!
@ OP - No point in failing the phone before its even arrived. A 'problem' to someone else may not be a problem to you, and you probably won't have any hardware issues either.
Just open the box and set it up and use it your way, and enjoy it.
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Oh I totally will enjoy it, and I do realize a lot of problems tend to be nitpicks. But I just have a thing about me to where if I have even a tiny defect in the electronics I buy, it bugs the hell out of me. For instance when the Xbox 360's launched, I must have returned about 5 or 6, all for issues stemming from RRoD, to a horrible "scritch" sound in the DvD drive, to a faulty fan that would cause the system to overheat a bit faster than usual.
This is my first smartphone and I'll probably have it for a good 2 years (I'm not under contract though), so I want to be sure it will go that length without seemingly small problems at first becoming larger problems later, especially since my warranty would probably expire long before the 2 years is up.

I've had 3 i9505 replacements and every single one of them had 'banding' across the screen at low brightness in a dim room. My 3rd handset was the best so I have no just left it but it's still visible and bugs the hell outta me!
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There aren't that many problems as these forums make it out to be. What you could look for is a tint on the screen, sometimes there is a green or yellow tint. You can compare with a friend's S4 or go back to the store. If you want to play it safe you can just open the phone right there and then, and check. However, DO NOT mistake this for the natural AMOLED yellow tint that you won't even notice if not comparing to a LCD display phone. Also, make sure both phones have "movie mode" enabled in the screen mode settings when comparing, other modes might produce a small tint on whites. There's also an option that dims whites when browsing the web to save energy, uncheck that.
Anyway, if there really are problems, they should be glaring obvious and you shouldn't worry about it. Enjoy your new phone!

Yeah that's the kind of thing I was afraid of. I bought my S4 online and it's shipping now, so checking it out immediately for defects won't be an option. Hopefully it doesn't have any such issues, but I've gotten a good idea thus far of what to look out for. Thanks for the help; can't wait to try out my first (hopefully in good condition) smartphone!

screen retention (ghosting)

Anyone having issues with ghosting on there v20?? Any fix if so r is it Rom related. In on vs995 weta Rom 5.0.7 7.0

I'm starting to have issues with image retention on mine.
I'm stock unrooted.
I wonder if this is covered under warranty.. it's not super annoying but still.

I am having a curious issue with the second screen. Under bright light or sunlight, the top right corner of my screen starts to flicker. Well, the brightness increases and decreases. At the beginning quite slowly and then at a higher pace. However, when I'm indoors it doesn't seem to happen, or at least not too foten.
I've tried with and without automatic brightness. I have also tried installing Lux and the issue still persists.
What I realised is that the flickering comes from the backlight of the second screen, and if I disable it, problem solved. I might Have to give it a hard reset and hope is not a hardware problem.
Has anyone experienced the same?

I posted something similar a while ago on this topic. On my left side of the screen I could see what seemed to be screen burn or something. It would be a yellowish tint that would display the keyboard and part of a screen from the app. But it seemed to be the same app everytime. I never found a solution, I had to turn the phone in for a different reason. The ffc just stopped working and would freeze my phone up.

Screen Retention\Ghosting
kbrn said:
I'm starting to have issues with image retention on mine.
I wonder if this is covered under warranty...
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Datblkbro said:
Anyone having issues with ghosting on there v20?? Any fix if so r is it Rom related.
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Same problem.
Stock, no root.
Is covered under warranty?
Did you solve the problem?

yurasik_687 said:
Same problem.
Stock, no root.
Is covered under warranty?
Did you solve the problem?
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I haven't tried to take the phone to see if it can be fixed, but I have done some research and after reading many posts of people having either the G4,V10 and V20 most have been honored under warranty having their screens replaced but the problem comes back, some people claim having their screens more than one time.
I think I can live with it.. I don't wanna risk having the phone scratched or damaged somehow by the person making repairs (I like to keep my phones in mint condition) and I have a Huge OCD problem lol

I think joining XDA is an indicator of having a degree of OCD
Although I'd class mine as low I'd not be happy with the retention exhibited in those pics.
Thankfully my V20 hasn't presented any inherrent problems so far, just the odd temporary ones that happen when modding, but they're soon remedied.
Since @emdroidle gave us root for the H990ds its been great having the chance to open it up and explore more of its potential.

yurasik_687 said:
Same problem.
Stock, no root.
Is covered under warranty?
Did you solve the problem?
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As far as I've read this is just a quirk of these LCD screens that LG uses on their phones. It should go away pretty quick as the only time mine shows up like that is when the screen brightness is all the way or very bright for like 5 or 10 minutes. Mine goes away after 5 or 10 minutes.

Download sfilter from play store activate it at 10 % and image ghosting will go away ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpmiowtPh_A&feature=youtu.be
Here's my retention.

kbrn said:
I haven't tried to take the phone to see if it can be fixed, but I have done some research and after reading many posts of people having either the G4,V10 and V20 most have been honored under warranty having their screens replaced but the problem comes back, some people claim having their screens more than one time.
I think I can live with it.. I don't wanna risk having the phone scratched or damaged somehow by the person making repairs (I like to keep my phones in mint condition) and I have a Huge OCD problem lol
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I was looking into the Warranty as well and just read that it can take up to 4 weeks to inspect and repair a unit, so no mobile for maybe 4 weeks or more and I'm not even sure they will accept the retention as a fault of the mobile itself, but give me the blame for it as there are some minor surface scratches from normal daily use.
So it seems the warranty is pretty much to the bin and reading stories from others about sending there phones with issues does not really make me want to send it back either. Who knows how long, and if declined giving me the blame, what a waste of time it has been. feel like iv Wasted enough time already.
They told me to make a full factory reset, which would of cause not solve the issue at all as I already knew - but I did it and sent the video of the retention afterwards - then I was told to look for scratches and I send them a video and 2 pics of what I could find and now being pointed out that maybe if they find out it is from damage that it just might be send back. Damage... Got to give me a break.
I'm not even sure what they would do with it if they accept the fault - would they begin to toy around with it or would they send me a new phone out of the box.
Is it worth it or not... I'm thinking...
For a +500 Euro phone - retention/ghosting should not happen and yet it does. First phone I ever experiences this issue.
I think I'm on the Whine wagon at the moment, sorry guys - just a little annoyed.

Jesus is God Almighty said:
I was looking into the Warranty as well and just read that it can take up to 4 weeks to inspect and repair a unit, so no mobile for maybe 4 weeks or more and I'm not even sure they will accept the retention as a fault of the mobile itself, but give me the blame for it as there are some minor surface scratches from normal daily use.
So it seems the warranty is pretty much to the bin and reading stories from others about sending there phones with issues does not really make me want to send it back either. Who knows how long, and if declined giving me the blame, what a waste of time it has been. feel like iv Wasted enough time already.
They told me to make a full factory reset, which would of cause not solve the issue at all as I already knew - but I did it and sent the video of the retention afterwards - then I was told to look for scratches and I send them a video and 2 pics of what I could find and now being pointed out that maybe if they find out it is from damage that it just might be send back. Damage... Got to give me a break.
I'm not even sure what they would do with it if they accept the fault - would they begin to toy around with it or would they send me a new phone out of the box.
Is it worth it or not... I'm thinking...
For a +500 Euro phone - retention/ghosting should not happen and yet it does. First phone I ever experiences this issue.
I think I'm on the Whine wagon at the moment, sorry guys - just a little annoyed.
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I did ended up replacing my phone, not under LG warranty though I paid 60 bucks to Sprint to get it swapped. I thought it was better than sending out my phone to LG and wait weeks..
Convenience was the what made me toss the 60 bucks for a new unit.
Though a month later I switched to T-Mobile and upgraded to the V30+
They paid the rest of my installments with Sprint which was half the cost of 2 V20's and also got to keep them.
I use my V20 as a multimedia device now.

kbrn said:
I did ended up replacing my phone, not under LG warranty though I paid 60 bucks to Sprint to get it swapped. I thought it was better than sending out my phone to LG and wait weeks..
Convenience was the what made me toss the 60 bucks for a new unit.
Though a month later I switched to T-Mobile and upgraded to the V30+
They paid the rest of my installments with Sprint which was half the cost of 2 V20's and also got to keep them.
I use my V20 as a multimedia device now.
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Nice - seems like I'm not going to get much from the warranty on the screen issue and still not sure if I should send it back as I'm afraid they do something stupid to it. Well, if my phone melted down at some point I would still buy an V20 in replacement. Battery and SD card is just a win for me even with all the phones faults. Just so sad that LG did not fix a better screen for the V20 in regards of getting Ghosting/Retention.
Anyway - I just tried one of the fixes I found without jail breaking the phone and it does help a little but far from solved the issue at all. I have ghosting/retention all over the screen now and most likely just going to get worse over time as it has from the beginning of it.

I think the image retention is a bug. It randomly happens on mine. At first I thought it was a crappy screen but then it went away. It will even show dark image retention like using xda. And most of my retention around the inside 1/4 of the screen.
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Aymenitoo said:
Download sfilter from play store activate it at 10 % and image ghosting will go away
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Sadly did not work here. Still have ghosting. 20% won't do either - il try 30%.

Ok I was getting ghosting which has been getting worse and wore the past month but in the past 2 weeks its been getting really bad on both displays, ontop of that my phone was dying in 20-25% range and going up to 100% charge just to drop like 10 minutes later to like 50% probably just the battery idk
I sent my phone in and here is what they marked on the warranty page
Symptom: Software failure
Repair: Download new software
I honestly hope they don't think its because I wasn't on the latest version of android because I kept putting it off or i'm gonna be pissed, especially since my warranty ends 3/18/2018 and these 2 issues have slowly been getting worse.

Hi!
Here is a working fix if your device is rooted.
Link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/lg-v20-screen-burn-fixed-t3661631

so is this an LG LCD specific issue ? I am just curious when I switch phones should I consider AMOLED / OLED or stick with LCD but maybe a different vendor ?

Jaws4God said:
so is this an LG LCD specific issue ? I am just curious when I switch phones should I consider AMOLED / OLED or stick with LCD but maybe a different vendor ?
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The culprit behind this is low contrast with high blue-output or cooler color temperature. If you are rooted, you can easily tone down the blue channel by a count of 20 (out of 256) and all is good. Also you don't have to use the phone as maximum brightness all the time, the screen itself is way too bright even for the least level.
2ndly, this ghosting is temporary and develops over time of use. It goes away for LCD.
OLED screens suffer from the permanent ghosting aka burn-in, though its coming over time is delayed by quality and improvement of the manufacturing process. Honestly, OLED's have higher saturation, more vibrance, higher contrast which makes them appeal to human eye but it comes at a cost.

dark_prince said:
The culprit behind this is low contrast with high blue-output or cooler color temperature. If you are rooted, you can easily tone down the blue channel by a count of 20 (out of 256) and all is good. Also you don't have to use the phone as maximum brightness all the time, the screen itself is way too bright even for the least level.
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Oh cool. thanks for explaining that! I am not rooted... 1. too nervous of causing issues after root .. 2. mine isn't rootable (on most recent security patch)..
so is there anything I can do to help with the blue output?
dark_prince said:
2ndly, this ghosting is temporary and develops over time of use. It goes away for LCD.
OLED screens suffer from the permanent ghosting aka burn-in, though its coming over time is delayed by quality and improvement of the manufacturing process. Honestly, OLED's have higher saturation, more vibrance, higher contrast which makes them appeal to human eye but it comes at a cost.
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yeah that seems to be what i've read too... I just typically keep my phones for a while and burn in or ghosting worries me...