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Newtron rings - a unknown problem with samsung- we need to act on this

Hi,
i contacted samsung technical support concerning the newtron rings issue and ask to get an extended warranty through them instead. But i learned that this issue has never been reported to samsung. We should all contact and let samsung know about this issue just in case down the road we encounter this problem. this is actually my second tablet, the first one i got has this problem and it will be just a matter of time for you to get it too. READ THE CONVERSATION i had with samsung. my fear is that samsung will eventually ignore our situation when we get this problem.
Juanita G: Could you please be more specific about the issue with the tab?
gtabby: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...ab-10-1s-experiencing-newtons-rings-is-yours/
gtabby: just to also let you know my first purchase was on maimi and as soon as i landed on chicago i had to run to the closest best buy to get an exchange because of this issue
gtabby: but it seems that it will eventually happen to all tablets...
gtabby: with makes my current tablet a target
Juanita G: Just to confirm, is there any issue with your tab now?
gtabby: no.. but what would i do if i get this issue without a warranty?
gtabby: i can't just live it, i mean this is a a $600+ purchase
Juanita G: I am sorry; there are no reported issues regarding this.
gtabby: ok.. so this is a new issue? and no one has reported this on your end?
gtabby: i'm sure best buy has a few return regarding is issue.. because i return one
Juanita G: I apologize; there are no such issues on this tab model.
gtabby: ok.. please humour me then, what is my next step if i get this issue down the road?
gtabby: this is basically a hardware issue

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1130230

please let them know the sky is falling too.

NEWTON rings, maybee that's the reason they don't know what OP is talking...
humor aside, there are quite a few threads regarding this already, no need for another one!

I don't understand the anxiety. I periodically get them. However, it doesn't affect performance and I can't see them when the screen is on unless I turn it at a extreme angle.

TabGuy said:
I don't understand the anxiety. I periodically get them. However, it doesn't affect performance and I can't see them when the screen is on unless I turn it at a extreme angle.
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I believe it's evidence of the apocalypse. Isn't "minor tablet defect" one of the four horsemen?

Personally, I liked the new Tron better than the original. Both are fun, though, and shouldn't be taken as literal representations of how computers work or anything. They're metaphors for the interaction of logic and emotion.
Oh, sorry. I've not seen any issue with Newton rings on my tab, but it pretty much just stays at home.

burhanistan said:
Personally, I liked the new Tron better than the original. Both are fun, though, and shouldn't be taken as literal representations of how computers work or anything. They're metaphors for the interaction of logic and emotion.
Oh, sorry. I've not seen any issue with Newton rings on my tab, but it pretty much just stays at home.
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Thanks for the laugh!

Oh, karma bit me in the ass today.
First time I've ever had the newtons rings. Left the tab out in the sun for a bit (love that I can actually read in the sun on this screen) and had the issue when i picked it up and touched the screen. They went away after a few seconds, literally as I watched, and have not come back. Now that I've experienced it though I can't really see the big deal. You really can't see it when the tab is on. Well, serves me right for making fun anyways.

Haha karma can be a ***** and I bet com me posting this now I'll get my own set.. btw I don't have them. But it seems that there are tons of people that do not have them. Maybe its the way people handle their tabs. Sure these tabs shouldn't have issues from a bit of rough handling or the like. And what's funny to me at least, his that the people that have them and send them into samsung, to be replaced.... they get thm again shortly after the replacement is in their hands. That leads me to belive that they handle it rough. Or something....
Sent from my Galaxy Tab!

mroneeyedboh said:
Haha karma can be a ***** and I bet com me posting this now I'll get my own set.. btw I don't have them. But it seems that there are tons of people that do not have them. Maybe its the way people handle their tabs. Sure these tabs shouldn't have issues from a bit of rough handling or the like. And what's funny to me at least, his that the people that have them and send them into samsung, to be replaced.... they get thm again shortly after the replacement is in their hands. That leads me to belive that they handle it rough. Or something....
Sent from my Galaxy Tab!
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I'm guessing it's a warm climate that does it. Like I said in mine, it happened because it was hot. The real question is whether it's really an issue. If you can't see it when it's turned on, why worry about it?

What serial number you have on your tablet?
I have the R63B (3rd batch), no probs what so ever... I was in the sun for a week while in vacation.

Maybe you shouldn't leave it in your car or whatever your doing to create such high heat or humidity... I dunno, never had an issue with mine, but then again, I don't let my tablet or laptops sit in the oven that can be a car on a hot day... Common sense tells me that it isn't a smart thing to do, but I am not an expert.

in my case the cause is heat... if you add pressure to the heat the NR will become worst and take longer time to cure.

My tab gets them when you turn the tab upside down, or if you hold the tab in a vertical position.
I never had this problem until I had the Ghost Armor installed on the back of my Tab. I guess having the tab upside down and the pressure from the install cause this to initially occur. The rings did not go away for several days and then they finally went away but they come back when I turn it upside down or on its side but then go away within 30 seconds.

J33per said:
Maybe you shouldn't leave it in your car or whatever your doing to create such high heat or humidity... I dunno, never had an issue with mine, but then again, I don't let my tablet or laptops sit in the oven that can be a car on a hot day... Common sense tells me that it isn't a smart thing to do, but I am not an expert.
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Didn't mean to thank you for that post. In fact just the opposite. Maybe you're not familiar with the concept of climate. You see in some places the world is warmer than others. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and blame your self-righteousness on your climate.

I have the same problem and it is getting bigger and bigger. I called up Samsung and they also said it isn't a known problem but they would book it in for repair. That would be great however I need it for work.

I've had my Verizon GT 10.1 4g LTE for about a month now and no ring problems here. No other problems either. I love it.

Rings
When it gets hot (in the sun) I get distortions in the screen. I once put it in the freezer for a few minutes and they went away until I left it in my car again. Now I put it under the seat.

yqed said:
What serial number you have on your tablet?
I have the R63B (3rd batch), no probs what so ever... I was in the sun for a week while in vacation.
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Mine is R61B so maybe its a problem for the first batches?

Things to check when my google nexus 7 arrives to make sure everything is fine in it?

Hya,
I'm new on here , so please be easy on me with my question :angel: . I recently purchased Google nexus 7 tablet from some local website who asks the customers to report any defect with in one day, only then they will ship new product :crying: , So I'll get one day for checking . Since Google hasn't launched Google nexus 7 tablet here (India) officially, so I'm getting the imported one, website support peoples even ain't aware of how to get warranty if product gets turned in to black box .
I saw some q/a here and I found many peoples having problem with product (related hardware ones) . I'd be thankful if you guys could list some basic things to check pertaining to hardware of product to make sure everything is fine

Hi, I'm on my 5th replacement and everyone had a different fault!
First you want to check round the edge of the screen to make sure the glass is flush with the case and not raised up so you can push it down with your finger, If anywhere the problem is normally down the left side. (DON'T TRY TO REPAIR IT YOURSELF WITH THE SCREW FIX TUTORIALS!) In most cases the fix is just temporary and the problem returns. This is a defect!
The next thing you want to do is check for dead pixels & white light bleed out around the edge of the screen. This app is perfect for the job.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.ujacha.deadpixel
Next you want to check the speakers by cranking them up to 100% and play several video or audio files to check for crackling/distortion/popping.
It's well known that the speakers are very cheap but they should still be crystal clear with the volume at it's highest.
Now you want to check the touch screens response. There is an issue with the screen not responding after heavy processing/game play where the screen becomes unresponsive down one half of the screen and only locking/unlocking the screen solves the problem.
First I would advise hammering the N7 with a game that is Tegra 3 supported for example Dead Trigger or Shadow Gun to get it nice and hot if at any time the screen becomes unresponsive then you have the same issue.
To double check run this app, you should quite easily be able to detect all ten fingers on the screen at all times.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.the511plus.MultiTouchTester
The last thing I would check is the connectivity through Wi-Fi & Bluetooth, this is the least common fault as far as I know. Just check you have nice strong signals with no drop outs.
So after all that if you have managed to put a tick in all the boxes I reckon you have a sweet device!
I hope this helps you and any one else out there and that you have more luck than I had finally getting a perfect working N7.
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Great question (although I don't know if it's a dupe). Thanks for all the info mr_tris. That sucks you're having so many issues. I haven't noticed anything wrong with mine since I got it yesterday, but I'll check all the things you mentioned when I have the tablet in front of me.
Billy

@mr_tris jeez!! 5 replacement means something and very horrible so to speak . I really appreciate help and advises you posted. I'll make sure to check them out .
The only problem I'll have if found any problem in device is that I'll have to wait another 20 days since the new product will be imported by website peoples for me to make replacement

One other thing to check: the gyro.
Does the screen rotate normally or do you have to turn the device so the screen is practically vertical (assuming you choose to unlock rotation via the notification panel).
If you are into gaming, try a driving game or something to make sure the cars don't veer left or right.
I had this trouble on my second one and have read of quite a few other people having the same problem.

The only real issue I've heard about is the screen raising above the bevel some. Yea this is a defect as the screws are too long and pushes the screen out. Returning it 50 times isn't going to fix it. Only by chance may you get one where the screw is slightly smaller (1mm). The solution is to make a little washer out of some plastic and put it under the screw. It doesn't need much to fix it. The cover pops off just like a regular battery cover and the screws are right there. If it is a problem for you, why NOT try to spend 2 min and just fix it yourself?
You wouldn't even notice unless someone pointed it out. You literally have to turn the N7 and look across the screen to even notice it. Hardly anything to freak out about.
Some people have blown their speakers already too. Most have been after a long session of movie watching or music. I suggest to not blow your speakers out (using at Max volume for extended periods) right out of the box. Let the speakers break in first. Honestly the speakers are so loud anyway that I normally have it at 50% volume Max. Probably not an issue either but its good usage practice.
I've also heard of one or two screens fritzing out with lines and fades. Probably nothing to concern yourself with.
I haven't heard of anything else but I guess it would always be best to check it out thoroughly.
I do recommend unlocking first thing because it wipes all data including storage and saves. I'm using EOS rom and its heavenly. Trinity kernel is also awesome because he tweaks the colors of the screen to pop more.
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shaneydroid said:
One other thing to check: the gyro.
Does the screen rotate normally or do you have to turn the device so the screen is practically vertical (assuming you choose to unlock rotation via the notification panel).
If you are into gaming, try a driving game or something to make sure the cars don't veer left or right.
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Well I just installed Puddle and Riptide and my gyroscope is offset by 11% to the right. I can calibrate it with the compass app but it goes back to normal when you reboot it!
RMA form is completed and Replacement No.6 is on its way! :-/
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My nexus 7 arrived today and I must say it's flawless so far I checked . No screen separation, no dead pixel, tested touch with app, played games , voice etc . The SSN starts with C60

mr_tris said:
Well I just installed Puddle and Riptide and...
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Wait... what? I don't see anything (relevent) in the Play Store with those names. Gotta link please?
Thanks!
Billy
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Beamon said:
Hya,
I'm new on here , so please be easy on me with my question :angel: . I recently purchased Google nexus 7 tablet from some local website who asks the customers to report any defect with in one day, only then they will ship new product :crying: , So I'll get one day for checking . Since Google hasn't launched Google nexus 7 tablet here (India) officially, so I'm getting the imported one, website support peoples even ain't aware of how to get warranty if product gets turned in to black box .
I saw some q/a here and I found many peoples having problem with product (related hardware ones) . I'd be thankful if you guys could list some basic things to check pertaining to hardware of product to make sure everything is fine
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Most important things are:
Screen - check viewing angles and color reproduction in the dark. Best reference is to use a site like GSMARENA for high res photos and screen reviews.
Body - Look for cracks or scratches, especially around ports and the headphone jack.
Things to disregard:
Slow system - this is just something you will have to deal with in an android environment.
Warm after prolonged use - again, normal.

JeepFreak said:
Wait... what? I don't see anything (relevent) in the Play Store with those names. Gotta link please?
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You need to install Tegra Zone from Play Store then you'll find them there.
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player911 said:
The only real issue I've heard about is the screen raising above the bevel some. Yea this is a defect as the screws are too long and pushes the screen out. Returning it 50 times isn't going to fix it. Only by chance may you get one where the screw is slightly smaller (1mm). The solution is to make a little washer out of some plastic and put it under the screw. It doesn't need much to fix it. The cover pops off just like a regular battery cover and the screws are right there. If it is a problem for you, why NOT try to spend 2 min and just fix it yourself?
You wouldn't even notice unless someone pointed it out. You literally have to turn the N7 and look across the screen to even notice it. Hardly anything to freak out about.
Some people have blown their speakers already too. Most have been after a long session of movie watching or music. I suggest to not blow your speakers out (using at Max volume for extended periods) right out of the box. Let the speakers break in first. Honestly the speakers are so loud anyway that I normally have it at 50% volume Max. Probably not an issue either but its good usage practice.
I've also heard of one or two screens fritzing out with lines and fades. Probably nothing to concern yourself with.
I haven't heard of anything else but I guess it would always be best to check it out thoroughly.
I do recommend unlocking first thing because it wipes all data including storage and saves. I'm using EOS rom and its heavenly. Trinity kernel is also awesome because he tweaks the colors of the screen to pop more.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
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what Trinity kernel does the color tweaks?? i am on CM10 M-Series with Trinity V111, i dont see the tweaks any where??

I just gave a Nexus 7 to my wife for her Birthday yesterday. I must be working fine since her was on it all day yesterday and for the last several hours this evening. If anything was wrong with it, she would of discovered it by now.

When it arrives turn it on, set it up and enjoy it. Don't make urself miserable looking for flaws. If you don't notice anything out of the box don't go looking for issues. Trust me....
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SPreston2001 said:
If you don't notice anything out of the box don't go looking for issues. Trust me....
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I wish I could have that attitude about my electronic devices. It would be a shame for someone to find a defect after the 15 day return grace period just because their device might be OK and they never bothered checking it. You must have spare money to burn. :what:
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mr_tris said:
I wish I could have that attitude about my electronic devices. It would be a shame for someone to find a defect after the 15 day return grace period just because their device might be OK and they never bothered checking it. You must have spare money to burn. :what:
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No I don't have money to burn lol but I just don't think its worth the stress of over examining for defects. If you look hard enough you will see that something isn't 100% straight or a tiny spec of plastic is sticking out or whatever and then it will stand out like a sore thumb once you've noticed it lol. Give it a glance over and if it looks good to you then enjoy your tablet.
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I have flawless c80 here, no raising lcd, no others failures here.. You gotta have some luck sometimes.

got c50 nexus 7 should i get a replacement?

Hey all I ordered met nexus 7 about 2 weeks ago and I love it. I do have a slight screen lift issue thought. Not as bad as others that had posted but enough to bother me.
I was reading up on the forums and how people were saying there different models (date manufactured). So I decide to see what number I got. I thought I would at least have a c60 or c70 model but I noticed a c50. I thought c60 was the earliest model?
What do u guys suggest? I during?I'd noticed that when I got it that there was 2 things of security tape on it (very overlapping so it only looked like 1but there was 2) and that there was 2 fingerprints on the copper heat tape next to the battery.
Does anyone know if the c80 fixed the screen issue for sure. Also how is Asus return work out. I had to RMA a bad motherboard to them before and it was the worse RMA I ever did.
Thanks guys and lmk what u think

Hi mate,
Well if it's got screen lift, that's a good enough reason to send it back. There is always the chance that you will shatter the screen if you tighten the screws up......
Yeah, I thought that C60 was the earliest model that they made. Obviously not. Looks like you were unlucky getting such an early model, this late on.
There are still some problems with the C80 lot, but not as common as they were in the previous versions. Can't you return it to the shop, or Google that you bought it from? You'll still be within the 28 days return. I was out and they still accepted it back without any hassle (Tesco UK)

I got a c5 model as well. I've had it for almost 3 weeks now. Was pretty upset at first when I got it because it was actually my second replacement from the Google store. Everything was fine until recently when I started to have the touch screen issues and the headphone out only outputs the right channel. Contacted Google again a couple days ago and they are gonna let me swap it again.
At this point, I don't care when it was made as long as it has no issues (major issues).
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Getting a newer SSN doesn't guarantee that you won't have issues. The screen lift is minor compared to screen flicker, bad pixels, etc.

mi7chy said:
Getting a newer SSN doesn't guarantee that you won't have issues. The screen lift is minor compared to screen flicker, bad pixels, etc.
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The first part is correct. Although it seems that many units have been opened and checked for obvious cases of separation, nothing has been done to solve the problem. ASUS has been rather curiously leaving screws off the left side recently, but that has not been a permanent solution for most users.
As for your statement that screen lift is minor, I don't know why you're still spreading this misinformation.
By no means is it guaranteed to cause problems, but there have been many reports of lifted displays cracking during normal use. Although the likelihood of this happening is unclear at this point, we know for a fact that this flaw has potentially serious consequences, and that ASUS will not accept responsibility under any circumstances.
Cracked screen... will ASUS fix it?
Nexus 7 screen cracks easily
The "it's broken already" thread
I have not heard anything about Google's coverage of this issue, aside from erica_renee's screen cracking right away, seen here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1858400&page=4
They handled her case generously, but that was a freshly unboxed unit so maybe they made an exception. Also, she said that her unit didn't even have lift, so I don't mean to imply that the cause of her broken glass was screen lift. It could have been an anomaly rather than a widespread flaw.
Although it would be useful to know definitively how Google intends to handle a lifted screen cracking within warranty, it's infinitely more likely that you'll be taken care of if you purchased from the Play store. I think that if your lift is truly minor and you're going to be dealing with Google as a possible safety net, tolerating this flaw is an acceptable risk. But you'll have to make up your own mind.

pxlitup said:
By no means is it guaranteed to cause problems, but there have been many reports of lifted displays cracking during normal use. Although the likelihood of this happening is unclear at this point, we know for a fact that this flaw has potentially serious consequences, and that ASUS will not accept responsibility under any circumstances.
Cracked screen... will ASUS fix it?
Nexus 7 screen cracks easily
The "it's broken already" thread
I have not heard anything about Google's coverage of this issue, aside from erica_renee's screen cracking right away, seen here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1858400&page=4
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Sales of the Nexus 7 will soon reach record number for a Android tablet, and all you could find me is 3 links then call it "many reports of lifted dispalys"?
Pxlitup...I see you're up and early trying to put fear into people.
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shook187 said:
Sales of the Nexus 7 will soon reach record number for a Android tablet, and all you could find me is 3 links then call it "many reports of lifted dispalys"?
Pxlitup...I see you're up and early trying to put fear into people.
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Those links are focused and informative. Posting any more than three would look cluttered.
But since you asked nicely, here are some more links worth considering.
shook187 said:
All these threads are all sounding alike. "How many returns have you made" or "screen lift this" or "screen lift that"
Pxlitup, are you on some kind of "screen lift" campaign? Dude just buy a different tablet and move on. You're in every thread talking about screen lift even if the OP has no intention of talking about this subject.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30821304&postcount=3
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pxlitup been on a mission from the screen separation gods to preach the word of screen separation on every thread.
I went on my own mission to find a perfectly flat screen. After the 5th N7 at various Walmart and staples I've came to the conclusion no N7 will be perfectly flat they all have a slight lift towards the center one the left side.
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As everyone can see, this is the third time you've confronted me like this. And your tone has been increasingly hostile.
Ironically, this grudge you're nursing began with me helping you to inspect your own unit. You discovered that you have screen lift thanks to my help, and you've been popping up to berate me ever since. I don't know where this hostility came from, since our first exchange spanned the course of a single page and I was nothing but friendly throughout. Here is the final post of our first interaction:
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Don't mistake my motives. I'm glad that you are happy with your purchase.
I'm only notifying you of the possible risks, which I believe warrant a mention since they do exceed the concerns of normal wear and tear.
Remember that internationally this tablet can cost much more than you or I paid for it. It's important for people to be able to make an informed decision about whether or not to purchase it, and you being honest about your screen inspection, even though you think I'm being OCD, was very helpful in that regard. You would be surprised at how many people believe facts are subjective when tech company loyalties come into play.
Hopefully your tablets won't give you any trouble. Your lift is certainly not as severe as many of the units from July that are still going strong.
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I don't know how we got here, but here we are. If you do decide to continue doing this, I will report you.
For anyone interested, here is the photo you originally uploaded to prove that your screen was flawless. The very minor separation has been circled.
And here is a record of your budding fascination with me, pulling my pigtails and so forth. You can edit your posts if you want, but it's all there.

Just to clarify, having c50 or c60 doesn't mean that it's going to be faulty. My third n7 (first two were f...) is c60 and flawless so far. Screen is perfectly aligned and I don't have any ghosting nor other problems.

My 16gb N7 is also C6O & it is almost perfect. No dead pixels & only the extremely tiniest lift only visible if viewed at just the right angle. Not even an issue. My 8gb is also a C6O & no lift or problems

The nexus 4 has the worst build quality I've ever seen

I don't care what anyone says. The nexus 4 is a really cheaply made device. But what can you expect from a device with good specs at that pricepoint? Answer: a lot more than what I got, that's for sure. Anyways I have a huge list of defects on mine, so I hope I can cover all of them here
Screen banding: greys look quite poor and inconsistent, almost like the ribbon cable is damaged. Similar to this issue is that after turning the device off for a few minutes then turning it back on the sides of the screen, especially the right side, look way brighter than they should. Almost like backlight bleed, which I have as well
creaking: An issue mostly for the nexus 7 that somehow arrived on my nexus 4 as well. My nexus 4 for the longest time creaked like you wouldn't believe. You know when you pick up an old SNES controller and twist it a bit and it creaks? Yeah, like that, except it was every time I touched near the power button. I tried to fix it, but I only caused 2 other areas to creak and only partially fixed the first one
multi touch issues: Another issue thought to be exclusive to the nexus 7 but was transferred over to my 4. I first noticed it when I was fooling around with an ocarina app on my phone and I couldn't cover all the holes, so I downloaded a multitouch app and noticed a problem. When I have 4 fingers touching the screen, one of a few things happens. It either only registers 2 or 3 touches, or if I move my finger it will move the finger that I have parallel to it the opposite direction that I moved my finger. And if I have them all in a line it just goes f*cking nuts, sometimes having one finger, sometimes having 4 but not in a straight line, sometimes 2, etc. It was even worse than my nexus 7.
I could go on and on about how there's a dead pixel somewhere on the screen, or how there's sometimes a green spot in the middle of my camera, but let's stop there. You may be wondering why I haven't returned it yet. Well that's because the glass on the back completely shattered, like spiderwebs everywhere. But I didn't drop it, nor did I put the hot phone on a cold table, in fact, I just squeezed the side a bit. I took off the cover to fix the creaking issue, since I figured out how to fix it, and I wasn't pushing that hard, I've put far more stress on it just from taking it off, and I hear a loud "pop" and my hand is covered in glass, and there's really bad crackage on the back. I also put a tiny crack in it earlier from letting it slide off of my pants TWO INCHES OFF THE GROUND. *heavy breathing* I've never had such poor experiences with devices in my entire life. It's even worse than my experience with my nexus 7, which had similar issues, like the creaking, and the backlight bleeding, and the multitouch issues, and my nexus 7 had at least 40 stuck pixels on it that weren't fixed when I got a new screen. I don't think I'm ever going to buy a Nexus product ever again. I don't care if it's stock android, or if the performance is good, or if it's easy to root, or whatever. What's the most important part of a device? Being able to f*cking use it. And I can't use any of the devices I've owned because they've all been defective! My galaxy nexus had HUGE scratches on it just from it being in my bag, and stopped charging even after replacing the USB port, my first nexus 7's battery didn't work, my second nexus 7's screen had at least 40 stuck pixels, the oleophobic layer started to come off and it creaked a bit, and after getting it RMA'ed most of the pixels were still there and it creaked like a SOAB, and my nexus 4, I've already explained in depth. So now whenever I hear "oh, the nexus 4's build quality is comparable to the iPhone 5" or "the nexus 7 is soo much better built than samsung tablets" I just chuckle and say "yeah, I believe you"

What do you expect it sells for 299$only
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Sounds like more of an issue of how you take care of your devices rather than the device itself.
I have every device you listed and they look brand new while never using a case.
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Why is this in the Q/A section? And who cares?
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I took superb care of it, the vast majority of issues I have with it were there when I got it, and sorry put it in the wrong thread.

My phone is in really good condition. I bought it on launch date and I have not had a replacement get. I really don't know what you are talking about.
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Well that was a poorly-formatted paragraph, and after sifting through it for your complaints, I can tell you that half of those issues can be "fixed" with kernel adjustments. I put 'fixed' in quotation marks because they aren't really fixes, more like tweaks.
As for the rest of your complaints, it seems like you don't take very good care of your phone. My Nexus 4 is in mint condition and I don't use a case or screen protector. If it's not in my hand, it's in my pocket. I don't set it on tables or anywhere, really. Treat that phone like the high-end piece of electronics that it is instead of the way you treat your car keys.
Also: prepare for this thread to be closed.

Idk man it sounds a lot like ur just complaining .. I've had a lot of devices so little stuff doesn't get me anymore but you could've gotten unlucky too but honestly I've had my phone since November and I just haven't tried to hear it creak . .I'm sure it does but I could care less you might have OCD though if ur noticing all that small stuff you might wanna get that checked out.
And the other stuff sounds like u did it ur self cause that first crack is always the hardest after that ur screens pretty much shattered honestly
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I don't have any issues with build quality mime is great!! Flash a kernel to make the colors great!! If you don't really can't what people tell you about the build quality what post this when you know people are going to reply.
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You're judging the build quality of a device sold globally based solely on one defective unit that you happened to receive? That's simply not logical. I for one have a device with no issues and I consistently throw my phone onto my bed (easy 2-3 feet down) and absolutely nothing has happened to it. I can get a creak but only if I press the back of the phone with amounts of force that would never come up in a normal usage scenario. You're hugely exaggerating here, and while I understand your frustration there's really no point complaining about bad luck.

You don't care what anyone says and nobody cares what you say. Let's call it even and move on.
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Well I'm glad to know that other people are having better luck. And I already said I take superb care of it. I don't throw it around, or whatever. I treat it really well. I'm just really frustrated that I always have such bad luck with things like this. I'm just gonna remove this thread as it's not doing anything productive, nor is it necessarily an accurate opinion.

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, nor is it necessarily an accurate opinion.
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Yeah I apologize this thread really shouldn't exist. I just got a bit angry and didn't know where else to put my anger into. The nexus 4 is really a fantastic device, just not MY nexus 4. Besides I'm getting a new back which will fix the creaking issue and cracked back issue which are the two issues that bother me the most. The rest of the issues are fairly minor (except maybe multi touch, but who knows, that could be the back as well, maybe it's a software bug) and I can live with them. I've already calibrated the display so the banding and bleeding issues are a bit less pronounced.

I tested this multitouch thing:
I can place all my 10 fingers on the screen and it will recognize them. But put 4 on it and place them in a line: every "touch" will be gone ..now move one finger (while 4 are on the screen): 1 finger is recognized.
Yes, very strange.
I too have slight creaks on the screws and a bit on the power button. And a lot of small scratches on the back since it just lays on the glass :/

How often does someone need to use their screen like a retard unless u have no fingers

I really shouldn't be complaining too much because it could be much worse. And it only cost 350 dollars.

I don't care what op says. My n4 is the best phone I ever had. And mine build quality is iphone like. I had to rma my first one due to some problem. But rma process is too easy smooth and fast not like iphone.
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mymeatb18 said:
How often does someone need to use their screen like a retard unless u have no fingers
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hahah yeah i mean i at most use 2 fingers on my screen at any given time, rarely do i use 3 fingers

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I'm just gonna remove this thread as it's not doing anything productive, nor is it necessarily an accurate opinion.
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At least you realised and admitted this rather than doing what some people do and arguing fruitlessly. If you want this thread to be deleted or closed report the OP for 'maintenance' and ask for it to be closed, or PM a mod.

Tablet Z2? Stay Away!

That's it I'm really disappointed with this device.
First the touch problem.
Then there's also some weird problems with charging (touch response is close to zero when charging with some chargers, doesn't charge when using power hungry apps) and the sound delay.
And now there's some yellow spots showing on the screen. Mine goes back to Sony for warranty, but for those considering getting this device, I'd advise against it.

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That's it I'm really disappointed with this device.
First the touch problem.
Then there's also some weird problems with charging (touch response is close to zero when charging with some chargers, doesn't charge when using power hungry apps) and the sound delay.
And now there's some yellow spots showing on the screen. Mine goes back to Sony for warranty, but for those considering getting this device, I'd advise against it.
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I know im going to sound like a sony rep but. Sry to here this, I have the Z2 tablet since july, and yes touch was an issue when I first got it, but these issues have disappeared since software updates. As for the yellow tint I cant say I suffered from it. Never used mine while charging as generally I find the battery life great. Sony are certainly not perfect - show me a manufacturer that never has any issues...

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I know im going to sound like a sony rep but. Sry to here this, I have the Z2 tablet since july, and yes touch was an issue when I first got it, but these issues have disappeared since software updates. As for the yellow tint I cant say I suffered from it. Never used mine while charging as generally I find the battery life great.
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Well , I pre-ordered mine and I got it since march. Touch has sure improved since then but it is still light-years behind my old Acer Iconia A500.
Just try it with a multi-touch test app. Even with the 4.4.4 firmware it still cannot register more than 3-4 finger consistently when you move them around.
My aging Iconia does not drop a single touch.
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As for the yellow tint I cant say I suffered from it..
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They appeared about 10 days ago.
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Never used mine while charging as generally I find the battery life great.
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Well I do. Especially when I play XCOM as it is a power hog. And sometimes the screen is completely unresponsive until I unplug it.
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Sony are certainly not perfect - show me a manufacturer that never has any issues...
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Did I say anywhere to stay away from Sony devices? What I said is stay away from the Tablet Z2. After almost 7 month of ownership I can definitely say if I could send it back I would.
The yellow tint issue is just the one drop too many. I was thrilled by the device at first (although annoyed by the touch issue): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51450622
Not anymore.

I am pretty sure the touch screen issue while charging is from a low quality charger. If you are getting a lot of AC ripple, it will completely flip out.
A good way to test this is to use an external battery pack. If the issue goes away, then buy a real high quality charger.

fwp said:
I am pretty sure the touch screen issue while charging is from a low quality charger. If you are getting a lot of AC ripple, it will completely flip out.
A good way to test this is to use an external battery pack. If the issue goes away, then buy a real high quality charger.
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Your post makes it sounds like I'm kinda dumb.
I tried with three different external battery packs and about a dozen chargers.
I experienced problems even with the stock charger. It is not even the best of my chargers for this device.
I'm not the only one with issues with charging:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2699250
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2769763

not only u get problems with him

Op has a right to complain, as long as it stays within the boundaries of XDA rules. So I remind everybody to keep the peace. If the thread gets out of hand, it will be closed.
OP, it's very unfortunate you've had so many issues with your device. I hope you can get them sorted out with Sony. I would suggest constantly communicating with them, and perhaps they will take it back into service. At least that's what they should do, for devices with multiple issues. Take it up with higher management if need be.
So keep it civil folks. Please.
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I had the yellow tint, Sony had my screen replaced only took 5 days.

I think the problems are not usually for this tablet. I have mine long-time and no problem with touch, yellow tint or charging in normal . But charging only if I use docking station with those two contacts to charge the tablet. If on micro usb port with power adapter charging gets slower and the device sometimes is less responding to touch.
But I agree that if having those named problems, the tablet would get useless in a way and I would try to get it "corrected" by Sony or seller of the device.
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jai23 said:
I had the yellow tint, Sony had my screen replaced only took 5 days.
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Good to know.

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Good to know.
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I bought it in March, the day it came out in HK.
After about a month, i realised that there were green dots, tiny ones on the edges of the screen.
Anyway, i made a post about it a few months ago, but long story short,
My screen got replaced in less than half a day. Dropped it off before lunch at sony centre with a repair center, and got it back in the same afternoon.
I am assuming that yours is still under warranty. Maybe you could do the same?

I bought mine un June, and i don't have any of the issues people describe (usually with early units), my screen registers 10 fingers moving on screen consistently, one of the first thing i did after purchase was install the MultiTouch Tester app to check, also i have no yellow tint or anything like that.
I have been a Sony customer for a long time ago, and i know wht happens with Sony devices, first units always have flaws, i had one early Xperia Z, and i, and a lot of other early customers, got battery charging problems, dead pixels, dodgy loudspeaker, and stuff... The first PS3 fat models, i really doubt there is one left alive in the world. This time i waited some months before purchase the Tablet Z2, and it seems i did the right thing.

Seems like the op was trying to troll us, but didn't get much of a response! ?

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I am assuming that yours is still under warranty. Maybe you could do the same?
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Yeah. It is. I sent it Thursday afternoon and it already came back this morning.
That was incredibly quick. I haven't had the time to play with it much yet to check if all issues are resolved but that sure is great customer service.
By the way my tablet was unlocked and rooted (I re-locked and unrooted before sending it back) but still under warranty .
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Seems like the op was trying to troll us, but didn't get much of a response! ?
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Are you trying to troll me?

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Are you trying to troll me?
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Only person allowed to legally "Troll".... is ME! :laugh:
Glad they hopefully got it fixed!

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Glad they hopefully got it fixed!
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I wouldn't say so. They changed the screen so no more yellow spot... but touch response feel even worse, charging problems persists.
I won't add any fuel to the fire , seems like some would rather I shut up, but I 'm terribly disappointed with this device. Great customer service though...
Is there any way to delete this thread?

bbarou said:
I wouldn't say so. They changed the screen so no more yellow spot... but touch response feel even worse, charging problems persists.
I won't add any fuel to the fire , seems like some would rather I shut up, but I 'm terribly disappointed with this device. Great customer service though...
Is there any way to delete this thread?
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Hey, nobody wishes you to delete the thread.
If there are issues, then they need to be known. I'm really sorry you have some problems. For the most part, it seems some folks don't have the same. But, that doesn't mean you "don't" have a lemon tab. And lemon products "do" happen.
If the tab is not charging correctly, then there's an issue.
Does it charge somewhat correctly from a USB Computer charge?
Sony, is probably one of the most consumer friendly organizations.
I can say, having owned an Iconia A701, is that when dealing with high performance tabs, the touch responsiveness, well, it leaves much to be desired. And at times, you had to tap more than once to get the response. NOT GOOD when playing a game.

In the first weeks, I also had the touch problems.
It was really a shame and totally unacceptable that Sony denied the existence of the touch problem and needed so long to release a fix.
The customer service of Sony is abysmal.
BUT: Since the firmware which fixed the touch problem I'm VERY satisfied with the tablet! It's simply a joy to use and to look at, and of all my devices, it runs by far the most stable and consistent and has by far the best and most consistent battery run time.
So I recommend it!