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I'm on my 4th Hero now. This one has hot pixels. There's quite a number of them, probably more than my initial estimate of 15.
This gets convoluted now so bear with me. Of those pixels I would say that I see about 6 of them when watching tv in bed at night with my glasses off when the screen is displaying very dark colours. I'm pretty short sighted and put the phone really close to my face to watch stuff. In normal day to day use I don't see them. I might even have difficulty showing you anything but the two worst ones. Even those would require me to bring up a black screen to contrast with. And they're not in the middle of the screen.
Despite these pixels, of the 4 Hero's I've had this is the best one I've had. My last one had a bigger pixel problem, while there were fewer problem pixels they were more noticeable and right in the middle of the screen.
I contacted HTC about it by email and they said to contact them about a repair. I rang them just now to ask about it and the guy on the phone said they could not guarantee no hot pixels after repair and that he thought the best thing to do was get another replacement, he also said that he thought I'd probably get a refurbished phone as opposed to mine being fixed if HTC did it. He said that a new phone is always the best option.
If I could go to a store and swap it then that would be great. But I can't and Orange insist on couriering me a phone over. This means I can't check the phone before giving my old one back. I tried to do this last time and the courier flat out refused to give me the replacement before I had given him the old one. Apparently he had someone take the new phone and then slam the door in his face, meaning they had both phones!
Anyway, If I knew I'd get a better phone, I'd be happy to go for either replacement by Orange or repair by HTC. As it is I feel that the odds are stacked against me (this is my 4th, remember) and that I should maybe just be accepting of what I've got.
For anyone who'd bullishly just demand a replacement until they got a perfect phone I'd suggest that you consider that Orange aren't going to keep replacing the phone and that HTC's man said that they wouldn't guarantee a defect free phone. This could go on forever. Looking at this forum it seems that there are enough hardware problems for my problem to be relatively insignificant. Everything else is fine.
So yeah, what would you do? To sum up: Minor persistent annoyance vs potential for greater annoyance.
If it has that many dead pixels then its past what they (HTC) consider acceptable in their policy. In that case it is 'faulty'.
You should really be thinking of it like 'why on earth do you keep giving me faulty phones, get this sorted because i'm getting fed up with this' instead of 'err sorry could i please have another replacement'. Its their fault not yours!
The only down side to another replacement, like you say, is that it may have other problems they dont consider a fault. In any case since you got it online (right?), worst case you could just send the whole lot back and start again with another carrier.
Personally if i had issues like that with a phone, it would bug the hell out of me every time i noticed them, and i'd be kicking myself for not returning it.
15 dead pixels on such a low resolution screen is pretty rediculous. I'm begining to wonder if they are using cheap screens or something,
Can't find any pixel issues on mine. And would have it replaced if there were
, as I did with the Tocco a year ago.
Bought mine straight from HTC though.
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If it has that many dead pixels then its past what they (HTC) consider acceptable in their policy. In that case it is 'faulty'.
You should really be thinking of it like 'why on earth do you keep giving me faulty phones, get this sorted because i'm getting fed up with this' instead of 'err sorry could i please have another replacement'. Its their fault not yours!
The only down side to another replacement, like you say, is that it may have other problems they dont consider a fault. In any case since you got it online (right?), worst case you could just send the whole lot back and start again with another carrier.
Personally if i had issues like that with a phone, it would bug the hell out of me every time i noticed them, and i'd be kicking myself for not returning it.
15 dead pixels on such a low resolution screen is pretty rediculous. I'm begining to wonder if they are using cheap screens or something,
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Yeah, I agree man, I think I've got a right to a phone that works properly. However the practicality of it all is that I might not be able to get one. I can't get out of the contract now (7 days is all the time you get) and for the reasons stated earlier it might not be the best decision to chance a worse phone. I'm really in two minds about this but I'm just not sure how many good ones there are out there and how many bad ones there are.
Well... Number five is due tomorrow. Pray for me guys.
Hero number 4 from Mobliefun is due this week and in the interim I have ordered another from Devicewire. I'll have 2 to choose from, so I'll end up sending back either, or both.
Shame I have to go to these lengths just to get a defect free device but to these lengths I shall go.
Dead pixels
Every brand as a dead pixels policy. What HTC's? Some other member posted it at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2909106
a) three dead pixels anywhere on the screen or
b) two continuous dead pixels
If that's the case, you just need to send the phone back and get a new one. If it takes the 6th phone...just ask for a refund and buy it elsewhere. This reminds me of my 1st HDD I bought...the store replaced it for 5 times only to find out that the entire box was filled with damaged HDD's.
What I want to know is what exactly is the problem with the manufacturing process on these handsets? If you get a good one, it's amazing but how few and far between are they?
Dead pixels, gaps etc... you shouldn't be getting that on a high end device.
The last time I had problems like this was dust under the screen on my SE P800!
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Yeah, I agree man, I think I've got a right to a phone that works properly. However the practicality of it all is that I might not be able to get one. I can't get out of the contract now (7 days is all the time you get) and for the reasons stated earlier it might not be the best decision to chance a worse phone. I'm really in two minds about this but I'm just not sure how many good ones there are out there and how many bad ones there are.
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The whole transaction is for the contract AND phone. Efectively you have not received a working phone yet. They have replaced it and replaced it. The 7 days deadline doesnt really apply here. The goods they supplied were faulty and you have full legal rights to ask for a replacement, use your waranty, or ask for a total refund for upto 2 years in fact in the EU.. and 6 years in the UK.
The crucial point is the goods were defective at the point of sale.
I'm fairly certain that the contract doesn't include the handset which is why the people who recently got out of their Orange contracts early didn't have to return their handsets. Thanks all the same though.
It definitely is. The people who got out of their contract took advantage of the terms and conditions/law regarding contracts, and the changing/breach of that contract.
Yeah it definatly includes the handset.
The reason they were allowed to keep their handset was because of the terms of the contract. It was set that way because after purchase the handset belongs to you regardless of the contract term. Its legally dificult for them to tie the contract month by month to the handset because then it would become a kind of lease/purchase asset. This is also the reason why you can request a FREE unlock code after the first x months. The fee is just an admin charge, they're not actually alowed to charge you for the unlock code itself.
Anyway I'm not saying you _should_ send it all back, but that you _can_ if you want to.
It must be a faulty batch. I have only ever had 1 dead pixel on an HTC phone before, the original I-Mate Jam, and Expansys sent me a replacement immediately I mentioned it.
I got my second Hero yesterday (dropped my first in a coffee, dont ask..) and thankfully both of them were defect free. White, unbranded, no screen gap, build quality or LED issues.
Of course, I got mine as an import here in Hong Kong, so the sourcing batch is likely to be very different from Expanys UK or any UK Telco.
Bottom line as other people have said is that the phone does not work as advertised, it is not defect free. You wouldnt accept a new car or CD Player with a big scratch down the side. This is just the same, except worse, as the screen is not just aesthetics, but an integral part of the experience.
Get it replaced until it is right.
Huge pain, I know, and so frustrating.. I really sympathise.
2 hot pixels, gap above the screen and new for phone number 5: backlight bleed at the edges of the screen.
Go HTC!
Send it back mate. Consider buying outright or switching provider at least, that batch is goosed for sure.
I'm awaiting my 4th, should be here in the next couple hours.
God it makes my issue of a gap in the top of the screen seem rather insignificant! Dude you are having some serious bad look with these handsets. Get on to HTC and kick off.
If any sub standard handsets are making it in to the hands of consumers any company worth its salt should be concerned and by the same token be prepared to do something about it.
It may be worth highlighting the fact that they are receiving some bad press on a very reputable forum within the smartphone community as nothing travels faster than word of mouth!
Just got my 4th. I have 1 hot pixel which actually may be a speck of dust, it's hard to tell., but it's practically invisible. Also have a screen gap- the tiny variety which isn't noticeable until you get a bright light reflecting off that copper component at the right angle.
Still not perfect but I'll wait and see what the other one I'm waiting for is like. I'll keep the best one. I'm starting to wonder if almost the whole UK batch is dodgy...
To those who have perfect (white sim-free) handsets please tell me where you got them?
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God it makes my issue of a gap in the top of the screen seem rather insignificant! Dude you are having some serious bad look with these handsets. Get on to HTC and kick off.
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I'd love to, anyone know how to address them? There's no point contacting the phone numbers or support addresses on their website as the guys there have no power to do anything but say "why not try resetting your phone? If that doesn't work, return it to Orange or we can repair it for you"
Ha! Now that I examine Hero number 4 in the evening out of bright sunlight, the screen is splattered with dust or stuck pixels. There is also light bleeding out from the screen gap.
Hero number 5 soon...
I'm getting pretty pissed off. What's most annoying is that I'll send back 100 Heros before I settle for a different handset!
How come you guys are on your 4th and 5th handsets? It soley down to the dead pixels? I had 2 and neither had any dead pixels
I don't want to clutter the forum with unnecessary messages, but those who have gotten their replacements--what was the situation with that? Were you sent new models, or refurbished ones? (assuming it was possible to tell).
I've got a DVP that's surprisingly crash-free (once in a week of regular use), but wireless sync doesn't work, and I'm apparently out of luck with Tech Support. If I'm going to get a refurbished replacement, I think I might be better off going for a refund again.
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I don't want to clutter the forum with unnecessary messages, but those who have gotten their replacements--what was the situation with that? Were you sent new models, or refurbished ones? (assuming it was possible to tell).
I've got a DVP that's surprisingly crash-free (once in a week of regular use), but wireless sync doesn't work, and I'm apparently out of luck with Tech Support. If I'm going to get a refurbished replacement, I think I might be better off going for a refund again.
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I never got my replacement so I can't say if it would have been refurbished or not, however I can say that if you decide to return yours, the process was pretty easy. Just call Dell Mobility (800 308 3355) and tell them you want to return your phone. If you had an exchange already scheduled (like I did), cancel the exchange first.
I returned mine 21 days after the day I received it. Apparently Dell starts that counter either when the device ships or when you order it, but it didn't cause me any problem.
It does seem as if Dell is shipping out new orders as they come in now, so your best bet to ensure you get a brand new device may be to just return and reorder. My exchange was in process for 20 days (received with a scratch on the screen) with no end in sight before I just gave up.
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I never got my replacement so I can't say if it would have been refurbished or not, however I can say that if you decide to return yours, the process was pretty easy. Just call Dell Mobility (800 308 3355) and tell them you want to return your phone. If you had an exchange already scheduled (like I did), cancel the exchange first.
I returned mine 21 days after the day I received it. Apparently Dell starts that counter either when the device ships or when you order it, but it didn't cause me any problem.
It does seem as if Dell is shipping out new orders as they come in now, so your best bet to ensure you get a brand new device may be to just return and reorder. My exchange was in process for 20 days (received with a scratch on the screen) with no end in sight before I just gave up.
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Dell sent me a refurb with my original order a week ago, so I don't think they'll be sending out NEW phones any time soon.
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Dell sent me a refurb with my original order a week ago, so I don't think they'll be sending out NEW phones any time soon.
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Wait, they sent you a refurb phone in fulfillment of your original order? Are they allowed to do that?? I didn't think a company was allowed to send you a refurb product without telling you at the time of purchase.
How could you tell it was refurbished?
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Wait, they sent you a refurb phone in fulfillment of your original order? Are they allowed to do that?? I didn't think a company was allowed to send you a refurb product without telling you at the time of purchase.
How could you tell it was refurbished?
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There was someone else's data on the phone, there was no initial setup, there were loose screws, and liquid damage to the screen.
Sold as new, no markings on the device or box marking it as refurbished.
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I never got my replacement so I can't say if it would have been refurbished or not, however I can say that if you decide to return yours, the process was pretty easy. Just call Dell Mobility (800 308 3355) and tell them you want to return your phone. If you had an exchange already scheduled (like I did), cancel the exchange first.
I returned mine 21 days after the day I received it. Apparently Dell starts that counter either when the device ships or when you order it, but it didn't cause me any problem.
It does seem as if Dell is shipping out new orders as they come in now, so your best bet to ensure you get a brand new device may be to just return and reorder. My exchange was in process for 20 days (received with a scratch on the screen) with no end in sight before I just gave up.
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Interesting. I spoke with Dell Mobility, and I was told that I would receive a new (not refurbished) phone since I'd asked for a replacement within my initial return period.
We'll see anyway. I'm not really going to push my luck with a second full return and another order--especially since I guess, assuming the worst, you could still get a refurbished unit anyway. I'll just have to inspect the replacement model thoroughly. The rep on Dell Mobility I spoke too also seemed to suggest that, if I wasn't satisfied with it, I could get another replacement, since I'd be within the 1-year-warranty period.
Orochidp, given that you got a phone obviously with someone else's data on it for a new order, it seems like that'd definitely be something to explain to Dell.
The touch screen on mine went out and .comy replacement appears to be brand new. I have had it for 4 days now and it has worked flawlessly. No lockups with WiFi, several app downloads regular email account synchs etc. Crossing my fingers that this new one stays stable!
Sooner or later that DVP you have that you think "works flawlessly" will cringe up and crash. I thought my 16GB dvp was perfect for 2 and a half weeks. That was until I started to download some xbox games from market place over wifi and guess what? CRASH! Not only that, I lost everything- including all the music albums I've synced with zune, any and all pictures ive taken with the phone, and all my downloaded games. I lost practically EVERYTHING after it crashed, auto-hard reset and forced me to the set-up screen as if it was the first time I've turned on the device.
I'm having a hard time trusting the DVP again. I don’t know if I want to go back to it. I am surely returning the device.
You may say, "...but mines perfect!" Yes, but mines was perfect as well... I thought. I trusted it, but it pulled a surprise on me out of no where.
So, what does it take for you to be convinced? A crash + auto-hard reset?
I don't know how else you'll be convinced.
Unfortunately, Lemon, just as we can't know for certain what'll happen with working phones, nor can you know for certain what'll happen.
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't claim that it's a reliable piece of hardware--then again, given my limited experience with it, I'd be reluctant to talk about it's reliability period. I can certainly say that I'm unhappy with my problems, but I can't make a universal statement concerning everyone. Take Twitter--there are people who are going through multiple replacements, and there are people who are on the same phone they got and couldn't care less (except that they mention it--presumably there are people in both groups who we don't know about).
You don't know for a fact that that person's phone is going to fail anymore than they know for a fact that it won't. You can certainly make a prediction based on your experience, but that's no more immediately accurate than a prediction from someone who thinks their phone won't have any troubles. It's not like the RAM issue, where we can concretely point to something at any given time.
Personally, a hard reset is a minor inconvenience, in part because I demand working wireless sync (hence my attempts to replace the phone). The last laptop I bought from Dell was included in a class-action lawsuit, so as bad as this is, it's nothing by comparison.
I got my 16Gb replacement yesterday after getting the run around, I had to escalate the issue higher than Dell Mobility. The phone was brand new in the box with all accessories like the first one.
So far no lockups (knock on wood) but Bluetooth is still flakey. Hopefully an update can fix that.
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I got my 16Gb replacement yesterday after getting the run around, I had to escalate the issue higher than Dell Mobility. The phone was brand new in the box with all accessories like the first one.
So far no lockups (knock on wood) but Bluetooth is still flakey. Hopefully an update can fix that.
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Yeah, I had to likewise pester Dell about it--apparently, they were waiting for a shipment of new units before sending me a replacement. Which I guess at least seems to suggest I'll get a new one.
I got a replacement about a week and a half and after closer inspection I believe my replacement is indeed a refurbished device. There are very tiny dents, 2 per side, at almost the exact positions on the top where the metal meets the glass. As though the glass had been replaced. There is also some poor "glueing' and fitment on the back when I slide the front up.
I still have both and just received the waybill to send the original back. Now I am not so sure if I want to send back my new one and keep the refurb. I guess I will call them to verify if it is indeed a refurb.
So, after a week of using my Nexus 7 the ghosting/image retention isn't getting any better and I've decided that I can't live with it.
My screen is also coming unglued on the left hand side like a lot of people's. I could probably live with this, but it's made me more determined to return it due to te ghosting. Has also made me think it makes sense to wait until it's been properly addressed by Asus/Google.
I'm therefore going to return it to Ebuyer and request a refund. Definitely want to buy another Nexus 7 eventually though as I love the device otherwise.
Has anyone already returned theirs to Ebuyer and, if so, how was the process? Did they argue with you?
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So, after a week of using my Nexus 7 the ghosting/image retention isn't getting any better and I've decided that I can't live with it.
My screen is also coming unglued on the left hand side like a lot of people's. I could probably live with this, but it's made me more determined to return it due to te ghosting. Has also made me think it makes sense to wait until it's been properly addressed by Asus/Google.
I'm therefore going to return it to Ebuyer and request a refund. Definitely want to buy another Nexus 7 eventually though as I love the device otherwise.
Has anyone already returned theirs to Ebuyer and, if so, how was the process? Did they argue with you?
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Hi mate. Yeah I returned mine to ebuyer. I wrote about the same things in my rma. I haven't received my replacement yet but as of now they haven't argued and accepted it quite easily . Just waiting for some return details from them.
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Trying to return mine at the moment (Light bleeding on left hand side) and it has been fun so far....
1 - Attempted to return as DOA, but the online form said this had expired even though I was well within the time frame
2 - Filled in the normal return form, and entered that I want a refund
3 - Got a response saying that I need to call a number to get approval to return
4 - Called the number, and spoke to someone who said. 'ok no problem, will get that arranged for you - will email the details to you'
5 - The email instructed me to call Asus and discuss the problem with them to get an approval number.
6 - I replied that my contract is with Ebuyer, not Asus, so am not required to call them - Now awaiting their response
I am a long term customer with Ebuyer, and have been very happy with them so far. This is my first return though, and am not liking how this is progressing. When I purchase something from an online store, I expect to be able to return via online methods, not needing to call someone. They are also out of order trying to get me to call Asus - that is not how the sale of goods act works
Will update when I get more info!
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This is my first return though, and am not liking how this is progressing. When I purchase something from an online store, I expect to be able to return via online methods, not needing to call someone. They are also out of order trying to get me to call Asus - that is not how the sale of goods act works
Will update when I get more info!
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I stopped using Ebuyer for exactly that reason some years ago, never a complaint with their prices or speed of delivery but when it comes to returns they will almost always try to shift the responsibility onto the manufacturer and give you the run around unless you put your foot down.
Just submitted my RMA for ghosting and screen separation. I put it down as "fault under warranty", description as "other" from the drop-down boxes and requested a full refund. I received an email saying to ring their local-rate support line. Was on hold for no longer than 5-10 minutes. As soon as I explained the ghosting issue to the rep he authorised it immediately and I now have an email link to arrange a free collection.
I am impressed with the service so far, though I guess the proof will be when the refund hits my bank account. I still have nightmares about the words "Our engineer's tested it and can't replicate the fault" from the dark days of my local IT box-shifter 12-15yrs ago...
Will wait for reports that new devices are fault free before re-ordering.
I buy loads from Ebuyer from work, have returned several things and had no problems.
Ok, they ask questions - who wouldn't? a lot of faults are not faults, they are user problems. So apart from that, which I consider appropriate, I've been perfectly happy with them for years.
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So, Ebuyer collected my Nexus 7 free of charge last Friday. I included a printout in the box with some good photos of both ghosting and screen lift so that it was obvious why I was returning it.
I received a message today stating "Following extensive tests by our Returns staff, this item was found to be faulty. Therefore a refund will be issued once the RMA has been closed."
Ebuyer certainly get the thumbs up from me this time :good:
I'll no doubt take a ribbing for this, but I've replaced the Nexus 7 with a Blackberry Playbook. Not for everyone I know, but I use a Blackberry Curve extensively at work and it bridges to the Playbook allowing me to access my calendar, inbox and browser on the larger screen. Will be even better on business trips as I have unlimited international roaming. As a result I've found it far more useful throughout the day than the Nexus 7, even though the screen resolution isn't as good, a few apps are missing, and it's a little heavier. £149 for 32gig is also a bargain.
For the avoidance of doubt though, unless you use a Blackberry as your primary phone the Nexus 7 is the better buy and if I ever buy a 10 inch tablet for use around the house 'll seriously consider a Jelly Bean device.
Hello,
I've owned a pixel device for about 2 months now and had started to experience issues with the battery life, standby battery drain and phone shutting off at about 20 percent each time. So I call up google support and explain these issues to them. They agree to replace the device for me. Having purchased the device from a retailer other than google I did not have the option to advance RMA and had to go with the standard one.
On 15th of Feb, I received a mail with shipping labels and other RMA details. On 22nd Feb I send in the phone which they received on 27th. Google is yet to acknowledge this through any mail but their support team over the phone assured me that the phone was received.
Initially, I was promised that a new or refurb phone will be dispatched immediately after the tracking details were updated. Google never met this expectation and so I call them up regarding the same and I was told that it could take 5-10 days for them to process the RMA. At this moment I requested them if they could do anything to expedite the process but they responded negatively every time and told I have no option but to wait which by the way is still the same answer I get every time I call them.
After 10 days passed I hadn't yet received any mail or updates regarding the new device, so I call them up and question the same to them, to which they replied that they need to escalate the case and that it would take them another 48 hrs to resolve the issue. It has now been 4 days since and google still has no idea where my old or the new phone is and they tell me to have patience and wait for the back end team to reply. I must have now spoken to at least 10 representatives and they all give me the answer that nothing can be done about it and that make me feel as if I shouldn't have gone in for the RMA in the first place. I've even requested them to send me back my old faulty unit but refuse to do even that as they don't have the authority to do that.
After reading online, I wasn't shocked to find that am not the only one who has faced such an issue. But what shocked me was that the person hadn't received a device for 50 days and was going to court to file a complaint. Am scared that I don't become a victim of poor google after sales service and have to go to the extent of going to the court.
Edit : - Ok. So I've just gotten off the phone with another representative and he has informed me that I should wait for at least another 48 hrs. So that makes the total turn-around time of about 20 days. That is if they happen to resolve the issue this time.
About two weeks ago I RMA'd my wife's Google Store Pixel (it had the dead-mic-and-speakers disease), and it was smooth as silk.
Refurb was immediately shipped to me via Fedex 2-day, and as expected they placed an auth against my credit card for the cost of the replacement. I shipped back the defective unit three days after I received the refurb.
I like the part where they say in order to get a replacement phone you need to enter your card info, but you wont be charged....just a hold of some sort. So, you enter your card info, submit the order and then they charge you the entire $700+. So you're out of a ton of money until they decide to give it back. You'd think as soon as they receive the old phone they will release the funds back to your account, but before I even received the new phone,4 days later, they gave me my money back. I didn't even send them the old phone, so WTF was the big idea in holding my money if they were just going to give it back before even receiving the old phone? I read about another guy who experienced the same thing and he had to call his creditors and whoever else automatically deducts from his account, because he didn't have the funds to cover his bills. I'm sure theres a lot of people out there who can't cover that even for a few days, or at all. What if you only have $400 to your name?
I dont see why they they dont do like everyone else by sending you the new phone and waiting until they get the old one before they decide to charge you for it.
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About two weeks ago I RMA'd my wife's Google Store Pixel (it had the dead-mic-and-speakers disease), and it was smooth as silk.
Refurb was immediately shipped to me via Fedex 2-day, and as expected they placed an auth against my credit card for the cost of the replacement. I shipped back the defective unit three days after I received the refurb.
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Mine had that problem. Dead mic, speakers, couldn't make calls, but mine was also really laggy. It was strange because I called my boss in the morning (the day my phone took a dump) and a couple hours later it just stopped working for no reason. Is this a known issue? Has anyone pinpointed a cause?
EDIT: Ok so I just read up and apparently a solder joint/circuit can split disabling all sound and audio processing. Which makes sense, because I couldn't even makes calls using a bluetooth heaset
That stinks. I had a replacement phone in less than 48 hours from the time I sent my old one via FedEx.
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I like the part where they say in order to get a replacement phone you need to enter your card info, but you wont be charged....just a hold of some sort. So, you enter your card info, submit the order and then they charge you the entire $700+. So you're out of a ton of money until they decide to give it back. You'd think as soon as they receive the old phone they will release the funds back to your account, but before I even received the new phone,4 days later, they gave me my money back. I didn't even send them the old phone, so WTF was the big idea in holding my money if they were just going to give it back before even receiving the old phone?
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I just thought I'd fill in some info about credit cards - nothing actually useful for the main problem this thread is about.
More than likely it was actually a "pre-authorization". A pre-authorized charge effectively puts whatever amount on hold and appears as if it's just a normal transaction. In actuality, unless the company who made the charge (Google) takes action, a pre-authorized amount automatically falls off your credit card after up to 5 days or so. I'm not an expert on this, and I don't work in the credit industry - just from working lots of retail, which I don't do anymore, either. So basically, Google didn't control when the charge no longer appeared on your card, and it only would have remained on your card if Google took further action "solidifying" the pre-authorized amount. There's probably a better explanation but as I said, I'm no expert.
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i am a pixel owner,i live in Greece but the device is bought from USA.So i don't know what to do if something goes wrong with the device.
I make a research but i can't find an email or something else to ask google what to do.Does anyone knows how i can find from where my device is bought?
Thanks in advance
For warranty reasons is it best to always buy directly from Google ? I just got mine from Google Store.
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For warranty reasons is it best to always buy directly from Google ? I just got mine from Google Store.
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Yes.
I hear all these stories about RMAs, shipping in your phone, and the entire hassle of packing it up, taking it to a shipping center and hoping it makes it there,etc, i honestly hope I do not have to go through any of that. It sound like a pain!
For a short time last year i tried out an iPhone, and there is nothing like being able to walk into the store, buying it, and having someone there to answer your questions. When I decided not to keep it , i simply took it back, told the dude 'its not for me right now' , got an instant refund on my card and literally did not get drilled on exactly why I was returning it. From the time I walked out my door to the time I got home about an hour ish of my time and hassle.
I like Google stuff, and i really like my Pixel, no issues at all with it, but that Iphone buying experience is what Google needs to meet or exceed. I know we are living more and more in an online world, but Google needs to figure this out FAST, or they will not be able to compete with that kind of customer service and support considering the cost of this thing and all the drama I have heard about people returning it. I highly doubt you would get a run around and be made to wait if there was a Google store like an Apple Store.
Its about the customer service/support for buying a very high value item and not being treated like a turd from what it seemed like the OP is being treated.
Actually no alot of us enjoy never having to walk in to an Apple store, most of the time you have to have an appointment or wait an hour in my area. Google support has always been above and beyond here but I deal through project fi, they have excellent customer service. Far beyond Apple Care and cheaper imo.
Ok so lets go back to the beginning. I ordered my one plus 8 pro on the prelaunch on the 22nd and i had issues with battery drain i thought was just me well i decided to root it once i received it and this was before really messing with it. After i rooted i realized my fingerprint scanner wasnt working and went through trouble shooting and One plus set up a remote flashing. Anyways they used MSM and tried to flash my device 4x and canceled it mid flash twice and it ended up in qualcom crash mode. I Was forced to set up an RMA over a week n half ago and they just received the phone on the 1st due to ups issues. It was inspected and my replacement was supposed to go out today and it didnt so i contacted oneplus and they had no idea what was going until i received an email a lil bit ago that they are out of stock and it can take up to 30 days for a replacement. They want me to take a refund or wait for a replacement but the problem is on the prelaunch i got the free wireless charger and bullets and they wont allow me to return them and want to deduct the price of both items. The have given me no other options. I am only making this post so that anyone who needs to RMA will now you may not get a replacement device because they are out of stock and dont keep replacements on hand.
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Ok so lets go back to the beginning. I ordered my one plus 8 pro on the prelaunch on the 22nd and i had issues with battery drain i thought was just me well i decided to root it once i received it and this was before really messing with it. After i rooted i realized my fingerprint scanner wasnt working and went through trouble shooting and One plus set up a remote flashing. Anyways they used MSM and tried to flash my device 4x and canceled it mid flash twice and it ended up in qualcom crash mode. I Was forced to set up an RMA over a week n half ago and they just received the phone on the 1st due to ups issues. It was inspected and my replacement was supposed to go out today and it didnt so i contacted oneplus and they had no idea what was going until i received an email a lil bit ago that they are out of stock and it can take up to 30 days for a replacement. They want me to take a refund or wait for a replacement but the problem is on the prelaunch i got the free wireless charger and bullets and they wont allow me to return them and want to deduct the price of both items. The have given me no other options. I am only making this post so that anyone who needs to RMA will now you may not get a replacement device because they are out of stock and dont keep replacements on hand.
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Theres clearly stock issues all over. Atleast they have agreed to give you a refund or a replacement dont see they issue of why they are the worst customer support. They could turn around and not replace your phone as you caused the issue....
Honestly. Just wait.
Don't return anything, just let it come.
Call them daily and become a pain in their backsides.
Bummer, but might show up sooner...
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Honestly. Just wait.
Don't return anything, just let it come.
Call them daily and become a pain in their backsides.
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Well guys today i was told that if i wait and something is wrong with the device i will be out of warranty to replace it again or refund so i can either get refund now or im screwed.
its ridiculous how they are trying to screw the customer over. I have bought every oneplus device since the 3 and i have called everyday and they told me today that if i dont return the headphones they will charge me for the free gifts so i have to return them if i wanted a refund and i asked if i received this new device and something was wrong would i be able to get a new device or have it replaced and they said no cause after May 31st i would receive a refurbished device and will not be able to get a refund for any purpose. I am honestly over it and thinking about switching to the pixel just because i have never had this issue when returning an item to them.
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Well guys today i was told that if i wait and something is wrong with the device i will be out of warranty to replace it again or refund so i can either get refund now or im screwed.
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I was just told by a OnePlus representative today that the warranty resets after a replacement device. This is really confusing that they're not telling everybody the same thing. I shipped my device today. Hoping for the best
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I was just told by a OnePlus representative today that the warranty resets after a replacement device. This is really confusing that they're not telling everybody the same thing. I shipped my device today. Hoping for the best
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You might wanna call back I talk to the main support team and they said that all purchases have been extended to the 31st of this month and will not refund or replace any phones unless refurbished after that. The first time I called they said the same untill I talk to a guy who got ahold of the main support team and they verified that it doesn't reset just they will extend till the 31st.
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You might wanna call back I talk to the main support team and they said that all purchases have been extended to the 31st of this month and will not refund or replace any phones unless refurbished after that. The first time I called they said the same untill I talk to a guy who got ahold of the main support team and they verified that it doesn't reset just they will extend till the 31st.
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That can't be true can it?
In fact I'm pretty sure with a phone that's less then a month old you still have two years warranty.. RMA or not.
The guy who told you otherwise is talking bubbles.
You have two years end of. It's your absolute right.
Don't return anything, let the phone come back to you and you'll retain your warranty. This is their fault and that is that.
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That can't be true can it?
In fact I'm pretty sure with a phone that's less then a month old you still have two years warranty.. RMA or not.
The guy who told you otherwise is talking bubbles.
You have two years end of. It's your absolute right.
Don't return anything, let the phone come back to you and you'll retain your warranty. This is their fault and that is that.
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You'd prolly need to find the relevant laws to begin with, or scour their ToS and warranty info. That's a bit of time itself.
Then, you'd need to present a case with them, and who says they're remotely competent. OP customer support has legitimately been worse than google as customer support. I honestly feel it's there to put a check mark on paper.
So lets say that with said proof, they still deny it. Ok, cool. Now what? I mean, if you're fortunate, you can take them to court over it. But this isn't a small business. Some companies will legitimately draw out court cases and more, simply for the fact you'll have to give up at some point, because we all don't have hundreds of thousands waiting in the bank, and the years to process the info. By the time you even did succeed anywhere, this phone would be 5 years old at least.
In all honesty, short of gross misconduct, oneplus can pretty much do whatever they want at this moment, and there's very little recourse if any for them to deal with it.
Corporate tyranny is real. This is my first OP device, and as much I like it (minus dislikes on some) the customer service is one of the worst I have ever experienced. So much so, this will be my last OP device as well.
Sorry if none of this reads coherently, half asleep.
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You'd prolly need to find the relevant laws to begin with, or scour their ToS and warranty info. That's a bit of time itself.
Then, you'd need to present a case with them, and who says they're remotely competent. OP customer support has legitimately been worse than google as customer support. I honestly feel it's there to put a check mark on paper.
So lets say that with said proof, they still deny it. Ok, cool. Now what? I mean, if you're fortunate, you can take them to court over it. But this isn't a small business. Some companies will legitimately draw out court cases and more, simply for the fact you'll have to give up at some point, because we all don't have hundreds of thousands waiting in the bank, and the years to process the info. By the time you even did succeed anywhere, this phone would be 5 years old at least.
In all honesty, short of gross misconduct, oneplus can pretty much do whatever they want at this moment, and there's very little recourse if any for them to deal with it.
Corporate tyranny is real. This is my first OP device, and as much I like it (minus dislikes on some) the customer service is one of the worst I have ever experienced. So much so, this will be my last OP device as well.
Sorry if none of this reads coherently, half asleep.
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Nah I get you. Tbh any company can act in this way. I've only had to contact OnePlus 2 times and they were good.
It's the situation I think that's causing problems. Personally I'd hold fire and let it come back. Just get one of them to say that it'll happen and you'll be fine.
Or not. Just get a refund and bite the bullet on the bullets, could probably get a Xiaomi or similar device for the remainder of the money
Ok just to update this a bit. I have no idea what's going on now now I agreed to a refund and now waiting for such. They have giving me different stories bout the returns and such but i was referring to the fact if you buy a one plus device you have 15 days to get a brand new replacement or refund and after the 15days it's refurbished and no chance of refund. At first I was told that the 15days restarts once u receive the replacement but now I'm being told that all devices are covered till may 31st.
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Ok just to update this a bit. I have no idea what's going on now now I agreed to a refund and now waiting for such. They have giving me different stories bout the returns and such but i was referring to the fact if you buy a one plus device you have 15 days to get a brand new replacement or refund and after the 15days it's refurbished and no chance of refund. At first I was told that the 15days restarts once u receive the replacement but now I'm being told that all devices are covered till may 31st.
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Great then stick with that. Calls are recorded, you can refer to that, note the time..
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Great then stick with that. Calls are recorded, you can refer to that, note the time..
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Thanks bud I have most the chat logs in my email so that's one thing but OnePlus has a special response team that only the call reps can contact and without them contacting them they just repeat same thing.
So let me get this straight. You were having battery issues so instead of doing a factory reset or contacting customer support you took it upon yourself to root the device causing more issues? Now you're mad at OnePlus because you're getting some sort of a run around because OnePlus devices are sold out?
To be honest if it were me I wouldn't be so reluctant to hand out a free phone or a refund after you caused more issues than just battery drain. The initial problem could have been possibly fixed fairly easily had you have not tinkered with the phone. After you rooted the device they tried to flash it and it wouldn't work and you're saying it's somehow oneplus' fault? Yikes
Guess this should be a lesson learned. Don't Tinker with a device that has issues and expect 100% full compliance from the manufacturer. Just for an example I have a warranty on my vehicle and I was told if I do any self repairs my warranty is voided. You should just be happy they're offering you what they have since you have already said it was you that caused the problems outside of the battery drain.
Oh and let's not forget the fact that you want OnePlus to give you money for free items that you received when purchasing the phone. I mean for real they were free..
Update still no refund.
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Ok so lets go back to the beginning. I ordered my one plus 8 pro on the prelaunch on the 22nd and i had issues with battery drain i thought was just me well i decided to root it once i received it and this was before really messing with it. After i rooted i realized my fingerprint scanner wasnt working and went through trouble shooting and One plus set up a remote flashing. Anyways they used MSM and tried to flash my device 4x and canceled it mid flash twice and it ended up in qualcom crash mode. I Was forced to set up an RMA over a week n half ago and they just received the phone on the 1st due to ups issues. It was inspected and my replacement was supposed to go out today and it didnt so i contacted oneplus and they had no idea what was going until i received an email a lil bit ago that they are out of stock and it can take up to 30 days for a replacement. They want me to take a refund or wait for a replacement but the problem is on the prelaunch i got the free wireless charger and bullets and they wont allow me to return them and want to deduct the price of both items. The have given me no other options. I am only making this post so that anyone who needs to RMA will now you may not get a replacement device because they are out of stock and dont keep replacements on hand.
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That sounds like they went above and beyond to keep you happy, once you rooted it, they could have told you no replacement or refund.
Also, you will not receive your replacement for at least a couple more months, the phone is out of stock and given the current global issues I don't see them shipping out replacements any time soon.
As a previous post said, let's hope you learned a lesson and contact support BEFORE rooting.
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That sounds like they went above and beyond to keep you happy, once you rooted it, they could have told you no replacement or refund.
Also, you will not receive your replacement for at least a couple more months, the phone is out of stock and given the current global issues I don't see them shipping out replacements any time soon.
As a previous post said, let's hope you learned a lesson and contact support BEFORE rooting.
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Actually You're wrong! It wasn't cause I rooted maybe if you read the whole thing you'd understand! They set me up with an appointment to flash the device with a flashing appointment and the guy started and stopped mid flash 3x then it got stuck in Qualcomm crash mode and he said to replace it! I have waited over a month for a refund also and the replacement as far as that I don't even want to deal with them anymore! They have no idea what goes on in this company and for over a thousand dollars you damn right I'm gonna be pissed.
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Actually You're wrong! It wasn't cause I rooted maybe if you read the whole thing you'd understand! They set me up with an appointment to flash the device with a flashing appointment and the guy started and stopped mid flash 3x then it got stuck in Qualcomm crash mode and he said to replace it! I have waited over a month for a refund also and the replacement as far as that I don't even want to deal with them anymore! They have no idea what goes on in this company and for over a thousand dollars you damn right I'm gonna be pissed.
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So you're waiting for a refund or a replacement? Did you send everything back? If you send everything back and haven't gotten the refund, dispute it with your credit card company.
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Request replacement they told me to change it to refund cause it would be two months for a replacement and still nothing. If you want proof message me I'll send you proof. I sent everything back I have screenshotted the chats and all.