I don't want to clutter the forum with unnecessary messages, but those who have gotten their replacements--what was the situation with that? Were you sent new models, or refurbished ones? (assuming it was possible to tell).
I've got a DVP that's surprisingly crash-free (once in a week of regular use), but wireless sync doesn't work, and I'm apparently out of luck with Tech Support. If I'm going to get a refurbished replacement, I think I might be better off going for a refund again.
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I don't want to clutter the forum with unnecessary messages, but those who have gotten their replacements--what was the situation with that? Were you sent new models, or refurbished ones? (assuming it was possible to tell).
I've got a DVP that's surprisingly crash-free (once in a week of regular use), but wireless sync doesn't work, and I'm apparently out of luck with Tech Support. If I'm going to get a refurbished replacement, I think I might be better off going for a refund again.
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I never got my replacement so I can't say if it would have been refurbished or not, however I can say that if you decide to return yours, the process was pretty easy. Just call Dell Mobility (800 308 3355) and tell them you want to return your phone. If you had an exchange already scheduled (like I did), cancel the exchange first.
I returned mine 21 days after the day I received it. Apparently Dell starts that counter either when the device ships or when you order it, but it didn't cause me any problem.
It does seem as if Dell is shipping out new orders as they come in now, so your best bet to ensure you get a brand new device may be to just return and reorder. My exchange was in process for 20 days (received with a scratch on the screen) with no end in sight before I just gave up.
patrickk said:
I never got my replacement so I can't say if it would have been refurbished or not, however I can say that if you decide to return yours, the process was pretty easy. Just call Dell Mobility (800 308 3355) and tell them you want to return your phone. If you had an exchange already scheduled (like I did), cancel the exchange first.
I returned mine 21 days after the day I received it. Apparently Dell starts that counter either when the device ships or when you order it, but it didn't cause me any problem.
It does seem as if Dell is shipping out new orders as they come in now, so your best bet to ensure you get a brand new device may be to just return and reorder. My exchange was in process for 20 days (received with a scratch on the screen) with no end in sight before I just gave up.
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Dell sent me a refurb with my original order a week ago, so I don't think they'll be sending out NEW phones any time soon.
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Dell sent me a refurb with my original order a week ago, so I don't think they'll be sending out NEW phones any time soon.
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Wait, they sent you a refurb phone in fulfillment of your original order? Are they allowed to do that?? I didn't think a company was allowed to send you a refurb product without telling you at the time of purchase.
How could you tell it was refurbished?
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Wait, they sent you a refurb phone in fulfillment of your original order? Are they allowed to do that?? I didn't think a company was allowed to send you a refurb product without telling you at the time of purchase.
How could you tell it was refurbished?
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There was someone else's data on the phone, there was no initial setup, there were loose screws, and liquid damage to the screen.
Sold as new, no markings on the device or box marking it as refurbished.
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I never got my replacement so I can't say if it would have been refurbished or not, however I can say that if you decide to return yours, the process was pretty easy. Just call Dell Mobility (800 308 3355) and tell them you want to return your phone. If you had an exchange already scheduled (like I did), cancel the exchange first.
I returned mine 21 days after the day I received it. Apparently Dell starts that counter either when the device ships or when you order it, but it didn't cause me any problem.
It does seem as if Dell is shipping out new orders as they come in now, so your best bet to ensure you get a brand new device may be to just return and reorder. My exchange was in process for 20 days (received with a scratch on the screen) with no end in sight before I just gave up.
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Interesting. I spoke with Dell Mobility, and I was told that I would receive a new (not refurbished) phone since I'd asked for a replacement within my initial return period.
We'll see anyway. I'm not really going to push my luck with a second full return and another order--especially since I guess, assuming the worst, you could still get a refurbished unit anyway. I'll just have to inspect the replacement model thoroughly. The rep on Dell Mobility I spoke too also seemed to suggest that, if I wasn't satisfied with it, I could get another replacement, since I'd be within the 1-year-warranty period.
Orochidp, given that you got a phone obviously with someone else's data on it for a new order, it seems like that'd definitely be something to explain to Dell.
The touch screen on mine went out and .comy replacement appears to be brand new. I have had it for 4 days now and it has worked flawlessly. No lockups with WiFi, several app downloads regular email account synchs etc. Crossing my fingers that this new one stays stable!
Sooner or later that DVP you have that you think "works flawlessly" will cringe up and crash. I thought my 16GB dvp was perfect for 2 and a half weeks. That was until I started to download some xbox games from market place over wifi and guess what? CRASH! Not only that, I lost everything- including all the music albums I've synced with zune, any and all pictures ive taken with the phone, and all my downloaded games. I lost practically EVERYTHING after it crashed, auto-hard reset and forced me to the set-up screen as if it was the first time I've turned on the device.
I'm having a hard time trusting the DVP again. I don’t know if I want to go back to it. I am surely returning the device.
You may say, "...but mines perfect!" Yes, but mines was perfect as well... I thought. I trusted it, but it pulled a surprise on me out of no where.
So, what does it take for you to be convinced? A crash + auto-hard reset?
I don't know how else you'll be convinced.
Unfortunately, Lemon, just as we can't know for certain what'll happen with working phones, nor can you know for certain what'll happen.
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't claim that it's a reliable piece of hardware--then again, given my limited experience with it, I'd be reluctant to talk about it's reliability period. I can certainly say that I'm unhappy with my problems, but I can't make a universal statement concerning everyone. Take Twitter--there are people who are going through multiple replacements, and there are people who are on the same phone they got and couldn't care less (except that they mention it--presumably there are people in both groups who we don't know about).
You don't know for a fact that that person's phone is going to fail anymore than they know for a fact that it won't. You can certainly make a prediction based on your experience, but that's no more immediately accurate than a prediction from someone who thinks their phone won't have any troubles. It's not like the RAM issue, where we can concretely point to something at any given time.
Personally, a hard reset is a minor inconvenience, in part because I demand working wireless sync (hence my attempts to replace the phone). The last laptop I bought from Dell was included in a class-action lawsuit, so as bad as this is, it's nothing by comparison.
I got my 16Gb replacement yesterday after getting the run around, I had to escalate the issue higher than Dell Mobility. The phone was brand new in the box with all accessories like the first one.
So far no lockups (knock on wood) but Bluetooth is still flakey. Hopefully an update can fix that.
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I got my 16Gb replacement yesterday after getting the run around, I had to escalate the issue higher than Dell Mobility. The phone was brand new in the box with all accessories like the first one.
So far no lockups (knock on wood) but Bluetooth is still flakey. Hopefully an update can fix that.
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Yeah, I had to likewise pester Dell about it--apparently, they were waiting for a shipment of new units before sending me a replacement. Which I guess at least seems to suggest I'll get a new one.
I got a replacement about a week and a half and after closer inspection I believe my replacement is indeed a refurbished device. There are very tiny dents, 2 per side, at almost the exact positions on the top where the metal meets the glass. As though the glass had been replaced. There is also some poor "glueing' and fitment on the back when I slide the front up.
I still have both and just received the waybill to send the original back. Now I am not so sure if I want to send back my new one and keep the refurb. I guess I will call them to verify if it is indeed a refurb.
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Since there have been numerous questions about this, I thought I'd create a new thread detailing the warranty and DOA processes of HTC. Perhaps a mod will sticky this for a few days so everyone can see it.
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I just spent about half an hour talking to the CS Rep at HTC about my ticket. We had a good back and forth discussion, and he explained how the warranty (repair) and DOA processes work, so I'd like to pass that info on to you guys.
*DOA: If a phone is DOA, i.e. it is defective or otherwise non-functioning out of the box, then they replace that phone with a brand new one. They send the customer a return shipping label. The customer is then to ship the defective phone, accessories, etc. in the original packaging back to HTC at their Houston address. The techs inspect and confirm the defect in Houston. Then a BRAND NEW replacement is sent out to the customer (not sure if it's sent from Houston or Indianapolis though). All said and done, this takes about 7-10 business days from the time the customer ships their phone to HTC. Also, no credit card number is required, because there's no risk to HTC losing inventory with this method.
*Repair (i.e. Warranty claim): A phone is categorized as a Repair if the defect has shown up after some time (i.e. not right out of the box). In contrast to the DOA scenario, here the customer provides their credit card number to HTC. Then HTC ships you a REFURBISHED replacement handset only, along with a return shipping label. Once you receive your replacement phone, THEN you send back your defective unit. The turn around time is usually short for the customer here... it takes 2-3 days for you to get your handset via Fedex.
Now, I've talked to a couple people who were skeptical that they'd receive a refurb because the phone just came out. So was I... then I asked the CS Rep that as well. He told me that they have plenty of refurbished units because this phone has actually been in production for several months. Whenever a phone was found defective at the end of the assembly line, it was sent back to be refurbished, and added to HTC's inventory of refurbs. Also, any presale units that were handed out, by Google to its employees for example, that had issues, were sent to HTC and refurbed as well.
So there you have it. If your phone was entered into the system as a Repair, you're getting a refurb. If your phone was entered as DOA, you'll have to wait 12 days longer, but will get a new phone. Now bear in mind that even if you're getting a refurb, you can expect the phone to look brand new, since it was likely just plucked off the end of the assembly line and never left the factory. The only difference between it and a "brand new" phone is that its case was opened by a technician after assembly...so if you're fine with that, then you're in luck.
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*Repair (i.e. Warranty claim): A phone is categorized as a Repair if the defect has shown up after some time (i.e. not right out of the box). In contrast to the DOA scenario, here the customer provides their credit card number to HTC. Then HTC ships you a REFURBISHED replacement handset only, along with a return shipping label. Once you receive your replacement phone, THEN you send back your defective unit. The turn around time is usually short for the customer here... it takes 2-3 days for you to get your handset via Fedex.
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The information I got was different:
I just called up HTC and asked them If the phone you get in the process where they ship you a phone, and then you ship yours back was going to be a brand new or refurbished phone. He left for about 15 mins to check with some other staff there because he wasn't sure, and came back and swore to me up and down that the phone I would receive will be brand new and NOT refurbished. I don't know if he's right, or if the Rep uansari talked to is correct. However the rep I talked to went away for a while because he told me he wants to be sure I get the correct answer and so he went to check with supervisor/other staff/etc.
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The information I got was different:
I just called up HTC and asked them If the phone you get in the process where they ship you a phone, and then you ship yours back was going to be a brand new or refurbished phone. He left for about 15 mins to check with some other staff there because he wasn't sure, and came back and swore to me up and down that the phone I would receive will be brand new and NOT refurbished. I don't know if he's right, or if the Rep uansari talked to is correct. However the rep I talked to went away for a while because he told me he wants to be sure I get the correct answer and so he went to check with supervisor/other staff/etc.
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Yes, I saw your post in the other thread. So essentially, everyone is getting different information, and even HTC's own reps don't know the score...? Either way, I think to be safe it's best to ask for DOA if you want to make sure you get a new handset. Either way you'll be fine though.
I'm really curious if what the OP says is true. I have an issue where my phone randomly turns off. It has probably happened to me about 5 or 6 times now. Nothing huge, but a bit disheartening considering the price tag. I was considering calling HTC, but if I'm going to get a Refurb I'd rather not. I work for T-Mobile and I can not tell you how much more often refurb phones come back with issues compared with their new counterparts.
ok called again. this rep also said swaps are brand new. I told him I heard that they are refurbs, then he went to check with 2 supervisors who also said that at this point in time (they said it may change in a month or two) all swaps sent out are brand new phones reserved for this purpose.
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I'm really curious if what the OP says is true. I have an issue where my phone randomly turns off. It has probably happened to me about 5 or 6 times now. Nothing huge, but a bit disheartening considering the price tag. I was considering calling HTC, but if I'm going to get a Refurb I'd rather not. I work for T-Mobile and I can not tell you how much more often refurb phones come back with issues compared with their new counterparts.
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I have no reason not to tell you the truth of what I was told. That being said, if you call HTC and tell them your phone has had this issue since you first got it, and ask them to DOA the device, you know that you'll definitely get a brand new phone.
So I had to go through warranty exchange with Customer Care since my volume rocker and bezel are loosening. I am past the 14-day exchange window so the stores will not do anything for me. One thing I was insistent on is that I did not want a refurbished unit (the device is less than 30-days old, why should I accept a refurbished unit?). The customer care associate was pretty insistent himself in telling me that he cannot request a new unit for me, however it is a "great possibility" that I would receive a new unit due to the phone being pretty new. I reluctantly agreed to have the replacement shipped to me, since they refused to let me do an in-store exchange.
Has anyone gone through this with their Vibrant? I'm looking to find people who have received warranty replacements from Customer Care, if anyone has gotten a new or a refurbed unit. Bottom line, I will not accept a refurbished unit. I figured worse comes to worse, I will send the refurbed one back and continue to ***** with them over the phone.
I'm flipping pissed too, because it was just so unnoticeable during the first 14-days, and then it inherently got worse with normal use. So now I'm feeling stuck. I do not know if the rep was telling me it will "likely" be a new unit just to get me to stop complaining, or if it's really true.
I'm with you - I wouldn't accept a refurbished unit either. However, since you are out of your 14-days (I assume you don't live in California) I don't think there is much you can do.
How long have you been a T-Mobile customer? The best bet to have issues resolved is always contact retention department. Not only are the employees there more knowledgeable, but based on your tenure with T-Mo, they often will do things for you other reps won't.
How far out of 14 days are you? I would take your box and everything back to the store you got it at and talk to the manager. Just be super nice about it and ask them to see if they can exchange it for you. Sometimes they can make exceptions, I know at my store we do.
I have exchanged phones in the past that were referbs and they come in pristine condition. They are practically brand new and have zero blemishes.
Don't worry about it.
Question though...
What do you mean the bezel is coming loose. I noticed that on the left side of the phone the bezel does not seem to be on correctly like the right side it might just be my eyes though. I hear a lot of squeaking from it though kinda annoying.
My volume button was loose out of the box feels cheap as hell when pressing it but it does not really bother me too much.
Samsungs build quality on the vibrant is very poor.
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Samsungs build quality on the vibrant is very poor.
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Mine is perfect. I am quite impressed with the build quality and iPhone4 fanatics who have looked at it have been impressed with it. Their quality control may be poor, but when you get a good one, its terrific.
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How far out of 14 days are you? I would take your box and everything back to the store you got it at and talk to the manager. Just be super nice about it and ask them to see if they can exchange it for you. Sometimes they can make exceptions, I know at my store we do.
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The phone was purchased on launch day, so tomorrow will mark 30-days.
Unfortunately, I already tried returning my phone to the store. They wouldn't take it. They offered to call customer care to send me a refurb, which I declined. Worst part is, I can't try again because I am out of the area where it was purchased (we are on a family plan, the account holder is in Georgia, I'm in New Jersey, and I was on vacation there when we attempted the exchange this past week.) I do have the receipt though and can try at a different store, but I doubt a different store will want to inherit my problem.
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I'm with you - I wouldn't accept a refurbished unit either. However, since you are out of your 14-days (I assume you don't live in California) I don't think there is much you can do.
How long have you been a T-Mobile customer? The best bet to have issues resolved is always contact retention department. Not only are the employees there more knowledgeable, but based on your tenure with T-Mo, they often will do things for you other reps won't.
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We've had T-Mobile since 2002 or 2003, whatever year they first took over Voicestream. If this replacement is a refurb, I will be contacting the retention department.
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Question though...
What do you mean the bezel is coming loose. I noticed that on the left side of the phone the bezel does not seem to be on correctly like the right side it might just be my eyes though. I hear a lot of squeaking from it though kinda annoying.
My volume button was loose out of the box feels cheap as hell when pressing it but it does not really bother me too much.
Samsungs build quality on the vibrant is very poor.
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Yes, that is what is happening to mine, and it's a defect. The bezel is loose and creaks when held. Also, the volume rocker rattles around in the phone.
I've played with the store display units, as well as another Vibrant we had purchased on our family account, and it has none of these issues. They are solidly built. So it's obvious that some of batches weren't properly assembled.
At my T-Mobile location my rep was having problems with her Vibrant and decided to try to tough it out. She did some master resets and didn't exchange within 14 days. She received a refurb from T-Mo.
As a manager I've gotten to the point where refurbs no longer bother me. Most of the time the refurbs come back in excellent condition, especially now that we're doing the certified open box program where people can buy COB phones.
Honestly if you put a refurb and a new vibrant side by side you couldn't tell the difference. If they hadn't said anything you wouldn't have known. Besides it comes with the same 1 year manufactures warranty so its still covered.
Did you purchase the phone at full price or as a subsidy? If at full price you have 30 days to exchange at store.
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Did you purchase the phone at full price or as a subsidy? If at full price you have 30 days to exchange at store.
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As a subsidy.
I know refurbs are supposed to be just as good or even better, but I've never had any luck with anything refurbished. Anything with a screen has always had hairline scratches. Either that or it's very obviously been used with lots of normal wear and tear and marks/scuffs.
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Yes, that is what is happening to mine, and it's a defect. The bezel is loose and creaks when held. Also, the volume rocker rattles around in the phone.
I've played with the store display units, as well as another Vibrant we had purchased on our family account, and it has none of these issues. They are solidly built. So it's obvious that some of batches weren't properly assembled.
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That's disappointing to hear... =/
It doesn't bother me too much I would have just perfected a more solid feeling phone.
Besides they charge you $10 to ship it out to you.
I would much rather save those 10 bucks and if the phone has some real issues I will return it. I also don't want to go through the headache of finding all my apps and redownloading them and getting my phone back to the way it previously was. Meh. I will stick with a few creaks here and there.
If you do however decide on doing this please tell us your experience with the referb phone. I am interested.
You whine too much. Who cares what it is. As long as you get a device that is new or refurbed, you won't even be able to tell the difference. Just enjoy your phone. And also, customer retention won't do anything as far as your problem.
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i just recently got a refurb from tmobile and it looks brand new have not had any problems it looks brand new like if it was never used
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You whine too much. Who cares what it is. As long as you get a device that is new or refurbed, you won't even be able to tell the difference. Just enjoy your phone. And also, customer retention won't do anything as far as your problem.
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Sorry, but I don't think I'm being unreasonable in requesting a new 500 dollar item when the one I just purchased was defective. Sure, 6 months down the line, something happens, give me a refurb. That's reasonable because the value of your purchase declines with time and with your own use. 30 days old is brand spanking new, and I should get the same if something is wrong with it.
I have one getting delivered to me today. I've been with T-mobile for close to ten years and they overnight shipped it for free to me. Mine is having an issue when charging where the usb cord is very loose. They rep said I would get a new or like new item but I will also be returning it if it not new. My phone is only 20 days old and I don't trust refurbished units enough when mine is only 20 days old. The loose card is making it so if the phone is not in the right position it won't charge
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Sorry, but I don't think I'm being unreasonable in requesting a new 500 dollar item when the one I just purchased was defective. Sure, 6 months down the line, something happens, give me a refurb. That's reasonable because the value of your purchase declines with time and with your own use. 30 days old is brand spanking new, and I should get the same if something is wrong with it.
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LOL
i thought you bought your phone subsidized?
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Sorry, but I don't think I'm being unreasonable in requesting a new 500 dollar item when the one I just purchased was defective. Sure, 6 months down the line, something happens, give me a refurb. That's reasonable because the value of your purchase declines with time and with your own use. 30 days old is brand spanking new, and I should get the same if something is wrong with it.
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Your window for a new replacement is 14 days.
I just got a replacement unit from T-Mobile and frankly I have no idea how to tell whether it is new or refurbished. Is there a way to tell? I really don't care if it is refurbished as long as it looks like new and works properly (aside from GPS and compass of course), but I am really curious how you guys are able to tell whether the replacement unit you got is new or not.
2 weeks ago to the day, I accidentally dropped my HD2. Nothing major.. I was actually sitting down when it happened, and the phone bumped my ankle then gently bumped the floor.. no big deal right? (It has a hard shell protector). Well, then as the phone flipped over, it bumped the edge of a table leg and damn! Four hairline cracks on the digitizer. And no more functionality though the LCD was fine and the phone was working but locked with no way to unlock it.
So, I weigh out the cost of repair vs. replacing it all together. Ultimately, it was cheaper to repair the screen.
Here is what blew my mind! Keep in mind that I am in Canada, I purchased the phone (T-Mobile Branded) on the 'net, it's unlocked, tweaked, and therefore there is no warranty.
So, on 04/01/2011, I contact HTC USA. To my surprise I actually get an American on the phone not some call center in a third world country. Wow! The person totally has their act together and in less than 10 minutes, I have a quote for the repair. Wow again! The rep explained everything in detail along with the mandatory disclaimers and while they were finishing up that, I'm receiving an email with all the necessary details and an RMA and Case number and shipping instructions. Wow yet again!
04/02/2011, I send the phone to the repair center in Texas. By 04/05/2011 at 10:50pm the phone has arrived at the repair center. The next morning, I get a call from HTC confirming the damage (which I knew), and they simply want a yes or no to go ahead with the repairs or not. By the afternoon, I have a FedEx tracking number, the phone is fixed and it's on its way back to me in Canada. Wow one more time!
04/11/2011 FedEx is at my door with my phone and HTC picked up the return shipping. Well.. you guessed it! Wow!
I am reconfiguring the phone back to the way I had it prior to sending it as I write this. It had been hard reset to factory spec which if fine and to be expected since they likely run various diag after repair.
So, for $120.00 + $25.00 Shipping, my phone is working again!
There's a case study for keeping our companies and their support centers on North American soil. There are dozens of companies I could list that should be taking notes. 8)
Nice to see a positive post like this. glad you got you HD2 repaired and are now back to modding it.
The whole repair process was nine days including weekends which I think is darn good!
That said, I was without the phone/device for 2 weeks. Talk about withdrawals! LOL!
Amazing how reliant we become on these devices. I use it to manage my daily activities for 3 businesses, 1 job, and my personal life/activities. I was on the verge of anxiety at times! Hehehehe!
At least I had my trusty HTC 8125 as backup and while it cannot connect to my cellular provider's network for phone/text/data, at least I had my calendars, tasks, notes, and contacts but I'll tell ya, talk about feeling tethered to a land line and out of the loop.
Yep, it just got HardSPL 4, my preferred radio flash, BsB, Total Commander, and a few other goodies back on and is now syncing with my Desktop and Exchange. d'-'
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Nice to see a positive post like this. glad you got you HD2 repaired and are now back to modding it.
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It was not a bad price if it was a year ago, but I just picked up another near mint condition one for $150 with everything included off criaglist.
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Yeah, fair enough however, in Canada, the phone is not even available therefore my options were a bit more limited to purchase a new phone through a system where there is a little more security in knowing that if it turns out to be a bad deal, the purchase it covered. i.e. Buyer Protection from eBay or anything like that.
It's not like you can hop on a local Craigslist up here and find them readily.
So, the replacement cost for a whole phone was much higher, and the repair was the way to go.
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It was not a bad price if it was a year ago, but I just picked up another near mint condition one for $150 with everything included off criaglist.
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You're a lucky guy.
I've had less good experiences in the Benelux here.
I called in mine for a screen and gps issue that is warranty issue since I run the official image on this HD2.
They didn't pickup the device twice as promised which drove me up the wall since I had my colleague involved and had to change several appointments with my clients for.
After I complained I got called by a customer care guy and was promised my device would be fixed one week after the pickup.
Called them this afternoon since we are one week further and my device was waiting for 2 parts but they didn't know which.
I wonder how many parts can break in the HD2 that direct to the fault. Guessing the main board and an LCD screen?
Well according to the customer service I will have to wait for the parts to come in.
I am so disappointed in the service and hole customer care after having a touch, touch pro, touch hd etc.
The touch pro which costed me over 500 Euro ended up in the trash after 3 failed repairs and numerous errors which where caused by the repair center. Sending it back to another address and name was only the tip of the iceberg.
Looking around for a dedicated Android device the LG optimus 2x looks good since it has a 24hour swap warranty.
Sorry to hear bro!
Heck, they even confirmed parts availability while on the initial call just prior to setting up the RMA. Maybe I just lucked out.
I work in the IT field and deal with all kinds of this stuff all the time and it has been years since I encountered this type of competence and efficiency. Don't know what else to say.
Have you checked out the Motorola Atrix?
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...d-Services/Mobile-Phones/Motorola-ATRIX-US-EN
This thing looks cool! Watched several segments on it during the CES show back in February. My only question or disappointment was in all the promo vids from the CES they were touting Android 3 Honeycomb however at the Motorola site its tech specs list Android 2.2.
Good luck in your search!
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You're a lucky guy.
I've had less good experiences in the Benelux here.
I called in mine for a screen and gps issue that is warranty issue since I run the official image on this HD2.
They didn't pickup the device twice as promised which drove me up the wall since I had my colleague involved and had to change several appointments with my clients for.
After I complained I got called by a customer care guy and was promised my device would be fixed one week after the pickup.
Called them this afternoon since we are one week further and my device was waiting for 2 parts but they didn't know which.
I wonder how many parts can break in the HD2 that direct to the fault. Guessing the main board and an LCD screen?
Well according to the customer service I will have to wait for the parts to come in.
I am so disappointed in the service and hole customer care after having a touch, touch pro, touch hd etc.
The touch pro which costed me over 500 Euro ended up in the trash after 3 failed repairs and numerous errors which where caused by the repair center. Sending it back to another address and name was only the tip of the iceberg.
Looking around for a dedicated Android device the LG optimus 2x looks good since it has a 24hour swap warranty.
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thx for the headsup JayG!
Well lets say that I do the same work as you and do escallations and process realignments. If I could have a go in this whole thing .....
The Motorola looks interesting but try to find one in Europe.
I very agree with your assessment of HTC. My story is one better. I had bought my phone (HTC ELFIN P3452 TOUCH) in India. It had some battery charging issues and when on a whim I finally contacted HTC US, the lady told me that the warranty on the phone had expired 5 days back. I politely requested her if there is something she could do. She came back a few minutes later and told me she will take the phone as under warranty, but she will have to get back to me after figuring out where I should be sending the phone for repair as they figured HTC touch is not serviced anymore. I did not get a call back for 10 days and then I called back and explained my situation again and the previous call to a totally different lady. She gave me an RMA and asked me to ship to their TX facility. I got the phone back with brand new board in a week. But then I noticed a crack in the body. Since now the phone was under a 90 day warranty, I called back and explained the situation. They gave another RMA and so I sent it back. another week later, I get the phone back and it was brand new everything including the LCD and the phone. New IMEI.
HTC is top notch. So my current phone is HD2 and backup phone is Touch.
Well, it's happened on Monday. Was using my phone and bloop....screen goes off and that's the last time it worked. Gradually got to the stage where it wouldnt even loop but my 5x is dead. RIP.
So, being out of warranty and all I sent an email to LG to see how much it would cost to repair. Reply came back with a series of questions but no "reply to" address. That's one way of hiding from the problem I suppose. For a company to try and avoid their responsibilities for a screamingly obvious hardware flaw is way out of order. At least Samsung had the guts to put their hands up.
Sharing this as part of the grieveing process in a way for the old Nexus devices. Had a 4, a 7 and then a 5x. The Pixels came out but when I saw their price tags and the setups it just reeked of apple (excuse the bad swearing language). Very sad really for someone who rarely went a whole week without the simple process of changing rom or setup or kernel but that was the beauty of the Nexus ethos.
Since Monday evening I have been the owner of a Moto G5 Plus. Only charged it three times since getting it. Ads are part blocked in stock, it's nippy and am moving on with my life post nexus. Trouble is it's still on 7.0 but not a big issue for me.
Anyway, thanks guys and gals for the good times. LEarnt a lot about android, poor customer service and build quality from LG and made some good friends (and enemies) on here.
Keep happy
My 5X also died from last Sunday.... I sent my phone to authorized service (Procordia in Greece). I'm waiting now when the phone will be fixed (changing motherboard).
So I know you already moved on to the G5 plus, but you should see about getting it repaired. Then you could always keep on hand as a .spare device. Mine bootlooped (a second time) well out of warranty but I filled out the RMA request on LG's website (didn't talk to anyone, just like I did the first time) and they fixed it a second time for free. I don't recall how long they did it for, but they extended the warranty
edit: should point out I'm in the US and it might not go as well in other countries
My nexus died on me yesterday, still have 3 days left in warranty. Filed 2 reports to LG to request a repair and have had no email or anything, its as if my request has vanished. This is utterly ridicolous as I need a phone and I'm currently without one and can't afford anything worth buying. Will have to resort to using my Nokia 1600. Shame on LG for being like this
You should try contacting LG via phone and that might work better. The 5X warranty has been extended to 18 months on a case by case basis since this is a hardware problem. If they won't fix it, all you did was spend time on the call, but if you are eligible to have it fixed, you'd have a spare phone.
These bootloops are getting more and more common as our phone ages. Mine froze and shut down randomly and bricked while using it a few months back. Thankfully I bought mine here in the UK from Carphone Warehouse where I sent it for repairs, got the motherboard replaced, and fixed in one week, for free with the 2-year warranty. It sucks that LG aren't willing to help you guys though.
Mine died on me earlier this year. Luckily I had some backup phones. Using my old 2013 Nexus 5 currently. I can get life from my phone here and then but it freezes and shuts down during the boot animation. I bought mine from someone off craigslist so I doubt I'd have any luck getting it fixed by Google or LG. Too bad parts are hard to come by or I would try and buy a new motherboard and replace it myself. I really do miss using the 5X though. Just got to hold off until the end of the year for the next Pixel.
My Nexus 5X also bootlooped itself to death yesterday. I purchased it January 2016 when my Nexus 5 decided to kill itself. Unfortunately I also bought a 5X for my girlfriend at the same time which I'm expecting to go anytime now. I'm currently using my Samsung Galaxy S II that I bought at launch and is still alive 6 years later. Sucks because the only new phone that looks good to me right now is the LG G6, but I don't trust LG anymore so I don't know what to replace it with. Galaxy S 8 is purdy but I don't want to deal with burn in (like on my GS2). Essential also looks nice but doesn't have a headphone jack so that's out. Might have to go Sony with it's gigantic bezels. :-\
Update: Getting a refurbished replacement from Google. Hopefully by the time this one dies there will be some more appealing replacement options.
My second 5X died few days ago. Good phone bad quality
Mine died today. Warranty expired last October but they are sending me a refurb replacement. I've had it since November 2015 and even Bought it off swappa so I feel fortunate in one way but a phone should last a lot longer than that.
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Mine died today. Warranty expired last October but they are sending me a refurb replacement. I've had it since November 2015 and even Bought it off swappa so I feel fortunate in one way but a phone should last a lot longer than that.
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Who did you go through? Google or LG? I bought mine from someone off Craigslist but haven't tried asking for a replacement since I've never had any type of warranty. Did you have to show any kind of receipt of buying it or anything or did they just simply say "Ok" and send you a refurbished one? Also, did you call them or email them?
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Who did you go through? Google or LG? I bought mine from someone off Craigslist but haven't tried asking for a replacement since I've never had any type of warranty. Did you have to show any kind of receipt of buying it or anything or did they just simply say "Ok" and send you a refurbished one? Also, did you call them or email them?
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I went through Google. All they did was ask for and run the lME number. I did not expect anything to come of it but I thought it was worth a try. I chatted online.
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I went through Google. All they did was ask for and run the lME number. I did not expect anything to come of it but I thought it was worth a try. I chatted online.
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Well I just might do the same. If you bought it from a third party and it died yesterday and your already getting a refurbished one, I think I may have a shot. Good to know. Thanks
Well. Some progress here too.
Decided to give LG a go but as I bought it over ebay they wouldnt entertain any warranty work but gave me their out of warranty people called SBE here in the UK.
Contacted SBE and without any commitment on their behalf the fella said that they would look at it and if its not showing signs of damage and water etc then it should be covered as they have permission to replace faulty motherboards with only postage costs.
So am packing the phone off to them and see what happens. Anybody else experienced this route? Would be worth getting it fixed just to sell the damn thing afterwards.
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Well I just might do the same. If you bought it from a third party and it died yesterday and your already getting a refurbished one, I think I may have a shot. Good to know. Thanks
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Sure,
the verbage is a bit intimidating saying that they are putting full price for refurbished on hold on your account to see if it is covered by warranty but what they want to do is make sure you didn't run over it or drop it from a ten story building.
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Sure,
the verbage is a bit intimidating saying that they are putting full price for refurbished on hold on your account to see if it is covered by warranty but what they want to do is make sure you didn't run over it or drop it from a ten story building.
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So you have to send the broken phone to them I assume?
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So you have to send the broken phone to them I assume?
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Yes, and then when they receive it and see it's not physically damaged (water, smashed screen) they refund you back the price of the phone. I didn't have to pay shipping either way.
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Yes, and then when they receive it and see it's not physically damaged (water, smashed screen) they refund you back the price of the phone. I didn't have to pay shipping either way.
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It's kind of funny they would even hold onto the price of the phone seeing as the device isn't under warranty and it would be no loss to them. I mean, what would be the scenario where they would actually charge you the amount of the phone?
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It's kind of funny they would even hold onto the price of the phone seeing as the device isn't under warranty and it would be no loss to them. I mean, what would be the scenario where they would actually charge you the amount of the phone?
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They send you the phone right away and give you 21 days to get the bad phone back to them. The hold is to make sure they get an undamaged phone returned to them.
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They send you the phone right away and give you 21 days to get the bad phone back to them. The hold is to make sure they get an undamaged phone returned to them.
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Ah, ok. Well that makes sense then. I thought they would send it to you after they analyzed the damaged one.
Ok so lets go back to the beginning. I ordered my one plus 8 pro on the prelaunch on the 22nd and i had issues with battery drain i thought was just me well i decided to root it once i received it and this was before really messing with it. After i rooted i realized my fingerprint scanner wasnt working and went through trouble shooting and One plus set up a remote flashing. Anyways they used MSM and tried to flash my device 4x and canceled it mid flash twice and it ended up in qualcom crash mode. I Was forced to set up an RMA over a week n half ago and they just received the phone on the 1st due to ups issues. It was inspected and my replacement was supposed to go out today and it didnt so i contacted oneplus and they had no idea what was going until i received an email a lil bit ago that they are out of stock and it can take up to 30 days for a replacement. They want me to take a refund or wait for a replacement but the problem is on the prelaunch i got the free wireless charger and bullets and they wont allow me to return them and want to deduct the price of both items. The have given me no other options. I am only making this post so that anyone who needs to RMA will now you may not get a replacement device because they are out of stock and dont keep replacements on hand.
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Ok so lets go back to the beginning. I ordered my one plus 8 pro on the prelaunch on the 22nd and i had issues with battery drain i thought was just me well i decided to root it once i received it and this was before really messing with it. After i rooted i realized my fingerprint scanner wasnt working and went through trouble shooting and One plus set up a remote flashing. Anyways they used MSM and tried to flash my device 4x and canceled it mid flash twice and it ended up in qualcom crash mode. I Was forced to set up an RMA over a week n half ago and they just received the phone on the 1st due to ups issues. It was inspected and my replacement was supposed to go out today and it didnt so i contacted oneplus and they had no idea what was going until i received an email a lil bit ago that they are out of stock and it can take up to 30 days for a replacement. They want me to take a refund or wait for a replacement but the problem is on the prelaunch i got the free wireless charger and bullets and they wont allow me to return them and want to deduct the price of both items. The have given me no other options. I am only making this post so that anyone who needs to RMA will now you may not get a replacement device because they are out of stock and dont keep replacements on hand.
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Theres clearly stock issues all over. Atleast they have agreed to give you a refund or a replacement dont see they issue of why they are the worst customer support. They could turn around and not replace your phone as you caused the issue....
Honestly. Just wait.
Don't return anything, just let it come.
Call them daily and become a pain in their backsides.
Bummer, but might show up sooner...
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Honestly. Just wait.
Don't return anything, just let it come.
Call them daily and become a pain in their backsides.
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Well guys today i was told that if i wait and something is wrong with the device i will be out of warranty to replace it again or refund so i can either get refund now or im screwed.
its ridiculous how they are trying to screw the customer over. I have bought every oneplus device since the 3 and i have called everyday and they told me today that if i dont return the headphones they will charge me for the free gifts so i have to return them if i wanted a refund and i asked if i received this new device and something was wrong would i be able to get a new device or have it replaced and they said no cause after May 31st i would receive a refurbished device and will not be able to get a refund for any purpose. I am honestly over it and thinking about switching to the pixel just because i have never had this issue when returning an item to them.
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Well guys today i was told that if i wait and something is wrong with the device i will be out of warranty to replace it again or refund so i can either get refund now or im screwed.
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I was just told by a OnePlus representative today that the warranty resets after a replacement device. This is really confusing that they're not telling everybody the same thing. I shipped my device today. Hoping for the best
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I was just told by a OnePlus representative today that the warranty resets after a replacement device. This is really confusing that they're not telling everybody the same thing. I shipped my device today. Hoping for the best
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You might wanna call back I talk to the main support team and they said that all purchases have been extended to the 31st of this month and will not refund or replace any phones unless refurbished after that. The first time I called they said the same untill I talk to a guy who got ahold of the main support team and they verified that it doesn't reset just they will extend till the 31st.
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You might wanna call back I talk to the main support team and they said that all purchases have been extended to the 31st of this month and will not refund or replace any phones unless refurbished after that. The first time I called they said the same untill I talk to a guy who got ahold of the main support team and they verified that it doesn't reset just they will extend till the 31st.
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That can't be true can it?
In fact I'm pretty sure with a phone that's less then a month old you still have two years warranty.. RMA or not.
The guy who told you otherwise is talking bubbles.
You have two years end of. It's your absolute right.
Don't return anything, let the phone come back to you and you'll retain your warranty. This is their fault and that is that.
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That can't be true can it?
In fact I'm pretty sure with a phone that's less then a month old you still have two years warranty.. RMA or not.
The guy who told you otherwise is talking bubbles.
You have two years end of. It's your absolute right.
Don't return anything, let the phone come back to you and you'll retain your warranty. This is their fault and that is that.
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You'd prolly need to find the relevant laws to begin with, or scour their ToS and warranty info. That's a bit of time itself.
Then, you'd need to present a case with them, and who says they're remotely competent. OP customer support has legitimately been worse than google as customer support. I honestly feel it's there to put a check mark on paper.
So lets say that with said proof, they still deny it. Ok, cool. Now what? I mean, if you're fortunate, you can take them to court over it. But this isn't a small business. Some companies will legitimately draw out court cases and more, simply for the fact you'll have to give up at some point, because we all don't have hundreds of thousands waiting in the bank, and the years to process the info. By the time you even did succeed anywhere, this phone would be 5 years old at least.
In all honesty, short of gross misconduct, oneplus can pretty much do whatever they want at this moment, and there's very little recourse if any for them to deal with it.
Corporate tyranny is real. This is my first OP device, and as much I like it (minus dislikes on some) the customer service is one of the worst I have ever experienced. So much so, this will be my last OP device as well.
Sorry if none of this reads coherently, half asleep.
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You'd prolly need to find the relevant laws to begin with, or scour their ToS and warranty info. That's a bit of time itself.
Then, you'd need to present a case with them, and who says they're remotely competent. OP customer support has legitimately been worse than google as customer support. I honestly feel it's there to put a check mark on paper.
So lets say that with said proof, they still deny it. Ok, cool. Now what? I mean, if you're fortunate, you can take them to court over it. But this isn't a small business. Some companies will legitimately draw out court cases and more, simply for the fact you'll have to give up at some point, because we all don't have hundreds of thousands waiting in the bank, and the years to process the info. By the time you even did succeed anywhere, this phone would be 5 years old at least.
In all honesty, short of gross misconduct, oneplus can pretty much do whatever they want at this moment, and there's very little recourse if any for them to deal with it.
Corporate tyranny is real. This is my first OP device, and as much I like it (minus dislikes on some) the customer service is one of the worst I have ever experienced. So much so, this will be my last OP device as well.
Sorry if none of this reads coherently, half asleep.
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Nah I get you. Tbh any company can act in this way. I've only had to contact OnePlus 2 times and they were good.
It's the situation I think that's causing problems. Personally I'd hold fire and let it come back. Just get one of them to say that it'll happen and you'll be fine.
Or not. Just get a refund and bite the bullet on the bullets, could probably get a Xiaomi or similar device for the remainder of the money
Ok just to update this a bit. I have no idea what's going on now now I agreed to a refund and now waiting for such. They have giving me different stories bout the returns and such but i was referring to the fact if you buy a one plus device you have 15 days to get a brand new replacement or refund and after the 15days it's refurbished and no chance of refund. At first I was told that the 15days restarts once u receive the replacement but now I'm being told that all devices are covered till may 31st.
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Ok just to update this a bit. I have no idea what's going on now now I agreed to a refund and now waiting for such. They have giving me different stories bout the returns and such but i was referring to the fact if you buy a one plus device you have 15 days to get a brand new replacement or refund and after the 15days it's refurbished and no chance of refund. At first I was told that the 15days restarts once u receive the replacement but now I'm being told that all devices are covered till may 31st.
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Great then stick with that. Calls are recorded, you can refer to that, note the time..
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Great then stick with that. Calls are recorded, you can refer to that, note the time..
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Thanks bud I have most the chat logs in my email so that's one thing but OnePlus has a special response team that only the call reps can contact and without them contacting them they just repeat same thing.
So let me get this straight. You were having battery issues so instead of doing a factory reset or contacting customer support you took it upon yourself to root the device causing more issues? Now you're mad at OnePlus because you're getting some sort of a run around because OnePlus devices are sold out?
To be honest if it were me I wouldn't be so reluctant to hand out a free phone or a refund after you caused more issues than just battery drain. The initial problem could have been possibly fixed fairly easily had you have not tinkered with the phone. After you rooted the device they tried to flash it and it wouldn't work and you're saying it's somehow oneplus' fault? Yikes
Guess this should be a lesson learned. Don't Tinker with a device that has issues and expect 100% full compliance from the manufacturer. Just for an example I have a warranty on my vehicle and I was told if I do any self repairs my warranty is voided. You should just be happy they're offering you what they have since you have already said it was you that caused the problems outside of the battery drain.
Oh and let's not forget the fact that you want OnePlus to give you money for free items that you received when purchasing the phone. I mean for real they were free..
Update still no refund.
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Ok so lets go back to the beginning. I ordered my one plus 8 pro on the prelaunch on the 22nd and i had issues with battery drain i thought was just me well i decided to root it once i received it and this was before really messing with it. After i rooted i realized my fingerprint scanner wasnt working and went through trouble shooting and One plus set up a remote flashing. Anyways they used MSM and tried to flash my device 4x and canceled it mid flash twice and it ended up in qualcom crash mode. I Was forced to set up an RMA over a week n half ago and they just received the phone on the 1st due to ups issues. It was inspected and my replacement was supposed to go out today and it didnt so i contacted oneplus and they had no idea what was going until i received an email a lil bit ago that they are out of stock and it can take up to 30 days for a replacement. They want me to take a refund or wait for a replacement but the problem is on the prelaunch i got the free wireless charger and bullets and they wont allow me to return them and want to deduct the price of both items. The have given me no other options. I am only making this post so that anyone who needs to RMA will now you may not get a replacement device because they are out of stock and dont keep replacements on hand.
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That sounds like they went above and beyond to keep you happy, once you rooted it, they could have told you no replacement or refund.
Also, you will not receive your replacement for at least a couple more months, the phone is out of stock and given the current global issues I don't see them shipping out replacements any time soon.
As a previous post said, let's hope you learned a lesson and contact support BEFORE rooting.
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That sounds like they went above and beyond to keep you happy, once you rooted it, they could have told you no replacement or refund.
Also, you will not receive your replacement for at least a couple more months, the phone is out of stock and given the current global issues I don't see them shipping out replacements any time soon.
As a previous post said, let's hope you learned a lesson and contact support BEFORE rooting.
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Actually You're wrong! It wasn't cause I rooted maybe if you read the whole thing you'd understand! They set me up with an appointment to flash the device with a flashing appointment and the guy started and stopped mid flash 3x then it got stuck in Qualcomm crash mode and he said to replace it! I have waited over a month for a refund also and the replacement as far as that I don't even want to deal with them anymore! They have no idea what goes on in this company and for over a thousand dollars you damn right I'm gonna be pissed.
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Actually You're wrong! It wasn't cause I rooted maybe if you read the whole thing you'd understand! They set me up with an appointment to flash the device with a flashing appointment and the guy started and stopped mid flash 3x then it got stuck in Qualcomm crash mode and he said to replace it! I have waited over a month for a refund also and the replacement as far as that I don't even want to deal with them anymore! They have no idea what goes on in this company and for over a thousand dollars you damn right I'm gonna be pissed.
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So you're waiting for a refund or a replacement? Did you send everything back? If you send everything back and haven't gotten the refund, dispute it with your credit card company.
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Request replacement they told me to change it to refund cause it would be two months for a replacement and still nothing. If you want proof message me I'll send you proof. I sent everything back I have screenshotted the chats and all.