Hello,
I've owned a pixel device for about 2 months now and had started to experience issues with the battery life, standby battery drain and phone shutting off at about 20 percent each time. So I call up google support and explain these issues to them. They agree to replace the device for me. Having purchased the device from a retailer other than google I did not have the option to advance RMA and had to go with the standard one.
On 15th of Feb, I received a mail with shipping labels and other RMA details. On 22nd Feb I send in the phone which they received on 27th. Google is yet to acknowledge this through any mail but their support team over the phone assured me that the phone was received.
Initially, I was promised that a new or refurb phone will be dispatched immediately after the tracking details were updated. Google never met this expectation and so I call them up regarding the same and I was told that it could take 5-10 days for them to process the RMA. At this moment I requested them if they could do anything to expedite the process but they responded negatively every time and told I have no option but to wait which by the way is still the same answer I get every time I call them.
After 10 days passed I hadn't yet received any mail or updates regarding the new device, so I call them up and question the same to them, to which they replied that they need to escalate the case and that it would take them another 48 hrs to resolve the issue. It has now been 4 days since and google still has no idea where my old or the new phone is and they tell me to have patience and wait for the back end team to reply. I must have now spoken to at least 10 representatives and they all give me the answer that nothing can be done about it and that make me feel as if I shouldn't have gone in for the RMA in the first place. I've even requested them to send me back my old faulty unit but refuse to do even that as they don't have the authority to do that.
After reading online, I wasn't shocked to find that am not the only one who has faced such an issue. But what shocked me was that the person hadn't received a device for 50 days and was going to court to file a complaint. Am scared that I don't become a victim of poor google after sales service and have to go to the extent of going to the court.
Edit : - Ok. So I've just gotten off the phone with another representative and he has informed me that I should wait for at least another 48 hrs. So that makes the total turn-around time of about 20 days. That is if they happen to resolve the issue this time.
About two weeks ago I RMA'd my wife's Google Store Pixel (it had the dead-mic-and-speakers disease), and it was smooth as silk.
Refurb was immediately shipped to me via Fedex 2-day, and as expected they placed an auth against my credit card for the cost of the replacement. I shipped back the defective unit three days after I received the refurb.
I like the part where they say in order to get a replacement phone you need to enter your card info, but you wont be charged....just a hold of some sort. So, you enter your card info, submit the order and then they charge you the entire $700+. So you're out of a ton of money until they decide to give it back. You'd think as soon as they receive the old phone they will release the funds back to your account, but before I even received the new phone,4 days later, they gave me my money back. I didn't even send them the old phone, so WTF was the big idea in holding my money if they were just going to give it back before even receiving the old phone? I read about another guy who experienced the same thing and he had to call his creditors and whoever else automatically deducts from his account, because he didn't have the funds to cover his bills. I'm sure theres a lot of people out there who can't cover that even for a few days, or at all. What if you only have $400 to your name?
I dont see why they they dont do like everyone else by sending you the new phone and waiting until they get the old one before they decide to charge you for it.
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UnusualSuspect said:
About two weeks ago I RMA'd my wife's Google Store Pixel (it had the dead-mic-and-speakers disease), and it was smooth as silk.
Refurb was immediately shipped to me via Fedex 2-day, and as expected they placed an auth against my credit card for the cost of the replacement. I shipped back the defective unit three days after I received the refurb.
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Mine had that problem. Dead mic, speakers, couldn't make calls, but mine was also really laggy. It was strange because I called my boss in the morning (the day my phone took a dump) and a couple hours later it just stopped working for no reason. Is this a known issue? Has anyone pinpointed a cause?
EDIT: Ok so I just read up and apparently a solder joint/circuit can split disabling all sound and audio processing. Which makes sense, because I couldn't even makes calls using a bluetooth heaset
That stinks. I had a replacement phone in less than 48 hours from the time I sent my old one via FedEx.
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I like the part where they say in order to get a replacement phone you need to enter your card info, but you wont be charged....just a hold of some sort. So, you enter your card info, submit the order and then they charge you the entire $700+. So you're out of a ton of money until they decide to give it back. You'd think as soon as they receive the old phone they will release the funds back to your account, but before I even received the new phone,4 days later, they gave me my money back. I didn't even send them the old phone, so WTF was the big idea in holding my money if they were just going to give it back before even receiving the old phone?
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I just thought I'd fill in some info about credit cards - nothing actually useful for the main problem this thread is about.
More than likely it was actually a "pre-authorization". A pre-authorized charge effectively puts whatever amount on hold and appears as if it's just a normal transaction. In actuality, unless the company who made the charge (Google) takes action, a pre-authorized amount automatically falls off your credit card after up to 5 days or so. I'm not an expert on this, and I don't work in the credit industry - just from working lots of retail, which I don't do anymore, either. So basically, Google didn't control when the charge no longer appeared on your card, and it only would have remained on your card if Google took further action "solidifying" the pre-authorized amount. There's probably a better explanation but as I said, I'm no expert.
Hello
i am a pixel owner,i live in Greece but the device is bought from USA.So i don't know what to do if something goes wrong with the device.
I make a research but i can't find an email or something else to ask google what to do.Does anyone knows how i can find from where my device is bought?
Thanks in advance
For warranty reasons is it best to always buy directly from Google ? I just got mine from Google Store.
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For warranty reasons is it best to always buy directly from Google ? I just got mine from Google Store.
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Yes.
I hear all these stories about RMAs, shipping in your phone, and the entire hassle of packing it up, taking it to a shipping center and hoping it makes it there,etc, i honestly hope I do not have to go through any of that. It sound like a pain!
For a short time last year i tried out an iPhone, and there is nothing like being able to walk into the store, buying it, and having someone there to answer your questions. When I decided not to keep it , i simply took it back, told the dude 'its not for me right now' , got an instant refund on my card and literally did not get drilled on exactly why I was returning it. From the time I walked out my door to the time I got home about an hour ish of my time and hassle.
I like Google stuff, and i really like my Pixel, no issues at all with it, but that Iphone buying experience is what Google needs to meet or exceed. I know we are living more and more in an online world, but Google needs to figure this out FAST, or they will not be able to compete with that kind of customer service and support considering the cost of this thing and all the drama I have heard about people returning it. I highly doubt you would get a run around and be made to wait if there was a Google store like an Apple Store.
Its about the customer service/support for buying a very high value item and not being treated like a turd from what it seemed like the OP is being treated.
Actually no alot of us enjoy never having to walk in to an Apple store, most of the time you have to have an appointment or wait an hour in my area. Google support has always been above and beyond here but I deal through project fi, they have excellent customer service. Far beyond Apple Care and cheaper imo.
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So I received my phone on December 10th and already I had like the lamest issue in the world with it this past Sunday. I woke up and it just wouldn't turn on. When I plugged it to the charger, there was just a red light. I did everything that I knew. Nothing worked. Searched forums and no one had a real fix. So I contacted google and they're sending me a replacement. Fine.
The isn't supposed to cost me a dime (per what was told me by the representative), yet I'm missing $350.00 out of my bank account while they "hold" the money. Fine and dandy, but I didn't prepare to have a surplus of money for them to hold. I have some real big boy bills coming up that I need to take care of with my next paycheck on Friday. They've had my money since Sunday and I'm like broke right now... Brought in NYE without being able to do much because google has (is holding) my money.
Car? Repo'd. Credit cards? Suspended. House? Evicted.
But I'll have a shiny new Nexus 4 to show off at the shelter in six months when they decide to ship it.
Seriously, does anyone know how long they'll have a vice grip on my cash?
They'll hold the full amount of the replacement phone until the defective phone is returned to them and likely a day or two for processing after that until the funds are released on your CC.
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So I received my phone on December 10th and already I had like the lamest issue in the world with it this past Sunday. I woke up and it just wouldn't turn on. When I plugged it to the charger, there was just a red light. I did everything that I knew. Nothing worked. Searched forums and no one had a real fix. So I contacted google and they're sending me a replacement. Fine.
The isn't supposed to cost me a dime (per what was told me by the representative), yet I'm missing $350.00 out of my bank account while they "hold" the money. Fine and dandy, but I didn't prepare to have a surplus of money for them to hold. I have some real big boy bills coming up that I need to take care of with my next paycheck on Friday. They've had my money since Sunday and I'm like broke right now... Brought in NYE without being able to do much because google has (is holding) my money.
Car? Repo'd. Credit cards? Suspended. House? Evicted.
But I'll have a shiny new Nexus 4 to show off at the shelter in six months when they decide to ship it.
Seriously, does anyone know how long they'll have a vice grip on my cash?
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That sux, didnt realize google holds the money for an RMA, most times I've ever RMAed a device they ship the new unit, then if the old one isnt received in 30 days they would charge you the full amount for the new one.
This is a common misconception. Google didn't take your money. What they did was to submit an authorization for the charge, to ensure that you could pay for the replacement if you didn't return the original. Your bank/credit card company, when they receive an authorization, puts a hold on that amount so that when the actual charge comes through, they can pay it without causing you to go over your credit limit.
In this case, Google will never submit the actual charge, assuming you do return the original unit within the allotted time, and eventually your bank/credit card company will release the hold and your available credit will go back up. How long they keep the hold in place is determined by the bank/credit card company, not by Google. You should call your bank/credit card company and explain the situation; if you're a good customer, they'll probably either release the hold or give you a temporary bump in your credit limit to cover that amount.
Just did an RMA a week ago using my Bank of America checking account, they held the 350 for exactly 3 business days, then the funds became available again. You then have 21 days from the day you receive your replacement device for the device to back in LGs possession, hope that helps!
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That sux, didnt realize google holds the money for an RMA, most times I've ever RMAed a device they ship the new unit, then if the old one isnt received in 30 days they would charge you the full amount for the new one.
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That its so insecure for google, you can report your credit card as stolen, new number and done, google cant take your money out.
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chicotunner07 said:
Just did an RMA a week ago using my Bank of America checking account, they held the 350 for exactly 3 business days, then the funds became available again. You then have 21 days from the day you receive your replacement device for the device to back in LGs possession, hope that helps!
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Sorry but im a little noob in RMA terms, when you RMA, The replacement phone its just for use it while LG its reparing the Original??
Sh*t
Count yourself lucky if they actually have replacement phones available. I ordered a replacement phone around November 29th and didn't get it until DECEMBER 21st. They held that $350 'hold' on my account until well after Christmas because they had no way of holding off on the charge until my warranty replacement shipped. It was kinda sh1tty.
Ironically I did the warrant replacement because the headphone jack on my original N4 was extremely quiet - as was the replacement unit's. I guess Google wants their premier device for accessing music and movies on Play to have about half the volume of a Galaxy Nexus.
What if the cc expires while they are holding the money back?
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What if the cc expires while they are holding the money back?
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The bank will honor any holds placed before it expired. Same thing if you cancel the card all holds placed before you canceled will be honored.
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The bank will honor any holds placed before it expired. Same thing if you cancel the card all holds placed before you canceled will be honored.
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False, you can't just call your bank and say "hi, i want to cancel my cc "
I work in one bank. so....
For those of you that went through the rma process, when you ship out your defective device did you get a tracking number and is the package insured? im just worried that if the package gets lost of stolen during its trip back to google, then you end up paying for both phones?
D3m0x said:
False, you can't just call your bank and say "hi, i want to cancel my cc "
I work in one bank. so....
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Well my cc expired on 12/12 and at that point Google would have still been holding money back for RMA, but the device is on its way back, so what should I do?
Thanks!
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Well my cc expired on 12/12 and at that point Google would have still been holding money back for RMA, but the device is on its way back, so what should I do?
Thanks!
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Well, at the bank where I work (In credit card department by the way lol) When your cc will expire, we create another 1 month before the expiration day, and, when expiration day comes, the system transfer all your charges to the new one and close the old cc, with the hold ammounts, when the comerce charges the old cc the bank refuse the charge but, inclute it manually to the new one.
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False, you can't just call your bank and say "hi, i want to cancel my cc "
I work in one bank. so....
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thats what I said so i don't know why you quoted me
Update:
So, I sent back my Nexus 4 via UPS with their packing and they released the money... I was a bit late on my bills, but I did call my creditors and let them know the situation, so I was fine on that end.
I was told by the rep on the phone that I would hear something back from google within 5 days regarding my device. They would at least let me know the status and how long it'd take to get a new device. Fine. I waited a little over a week before I decided to give them a call back today because I hadn't heard anything. I am right now without a phone and I'm paying for T-Mobile's service. Not Magenta's fault and they still expect their full payment money on time, even if I only used the service for a week.
Anyway, after I called Google today, I was told that they'd figure out how long it's going to take so that I can plan around not having a phone. The rep was really courteous, so I have nothing bad to say about her. Low-and-behold, within 5 minutes of getting off of the phone with her, I get push notification on my iPad telling me that Google has charged me another $349.00! Now... Why this time? I dont have my warranty device or my original device! Why am I being charged now?
I called Google again and they don't have an answer for me... So, again, I am without my money because I didn't plan on having a surplus in my account to deal with Google.
This is like the biggest headache I've ever had to go through with getting a phone.
The sad thing is that I actually REALLY like the phone... and that's coming from an all-device-apple-user.
I just want my money back into my account and my Nexus 4. Is that too much to ask? Okay, I can wait for the Nexus 4, but can I have my money?
chicotunner07 said:
Just did an RMA a week ago using my Bank of America checking account, they held the 350 for exactly 3 business days, then the funds became available again. You then have 21 days from the day you receive your replacement device for the device to back in LGs possession, hope that helps!
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THAT was my understanding of this whole process. Now I hear from GOOGLE that I was wrong. The rep tells me now that.. "Why would we send you another device without receiving ours back? Then you'd have two devices in your possession and we'd have nothing." Does she not understand that they'll have my money in their possession? Like, the hold can turn into a charge and they can go ahead and charge me for their missing device.
That's how ANY warranty replacement has worked in my entire life:
Step 1: Call for warranty device.
Step 2: Warranty device is ordered and sent.
Step 3: Receive warranty device.
Step 4. Send back old device within allotted timeframe or risk being charged for the warranty device at full price and whatever inconvenience charge they company adds.
Not with Google, I guess... They just charge all willy nilly until you're dead broke without a dollar in your account.
Woke up this morning and Google shipped my device after a a long day of calling about this second hold and how it put me in overdraft. I was sent an email, in which I replied to them detailing my frustrations in a calm and courteous mannor... The next email I got back from them was a shipping email.
While I'm happy, that kind of leads me to believe that they are just being jerks about this phone. They just had one magically ready to ship after what I had gone through yesterday? I wasn't expecting nothing more than a "We're sorry. You should be expecting your shipment within 6 to 8 weeks." I wouldn't've even been mad about that. All I wanted was a timeframe so that I could plan around not having a phone.
This thread has gotten way off topic. I'm sure it'll be closed now. LOL!
THANKS EVERYONE.
D3m0x said:
False, you can't just call your bank and say "hi, i want to cancel my cc "
I work in one bank. so....
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I also work at a bank. If someone wants to close their card they don't really need to give a good reason(damaged / stolen work well), we will resend a card with a new number or the same depending on why they're closing it. Not sure what you mean by you can't just cancel your card, I close cards quite regularly per customer request.
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I also work at a bank. If someone wants to close their card they don't really need to give a good reason(damaged / stolen work well), we will resend a card with a new number or the same depending on why they're closing it. Not sure what you mean by you can't just cancel your card, I close cards quite regularly per customer request.
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But all hold backs will be transferred to the new card, although I have not yet updated my card number in google wallet, right?
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I also work at a bank. If someone wants to close their card they don't really need to give a good reason(damaged / stolen work well), we will resend a card with a new number or the same depending on why they're closing it. Not sure what you mean by you can't just cancel your card, I close cards quite regularly per customer request.
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Look, when you report your cc broke or stolen, then bank gives you other card with other number, BUT all the credit history moves to the new one, including the hold ammounts..
TLDR summary: Sent a Razr MAXX HD in to Motorola to have a cracked screen repaired with a guarantee that it would be done within 5 business days. For over the next month, I am continually lied to that I'd get a phone back within the next 1-5 days (depending on who I talk to), before they finally reimburse me for a replacement, well over a month later.
Full story:
I'm a huge fan of Motorola phones. My first cell phone after High School was an old school Razr, and outside of a brief dalliance with a BlackBerry Storm (my first smartphone), every other phone I've had was made by Motorola. I got a Droid X soon after release in 2010, loved it, and replaced it 2.5 years later when it was showing it's age by getting a Razr Maxx HD on release day. Totally happy with the Razr Maxx HD... until it accidentally fell out of my pocket onto a rock in a parking lot and cracked the screen. Phone was totally functional still, including all portions of the touchscreen, but it had spiderweb cracks on it so I figured I'd get it fixed.
I was excited to see Motorola offers repair services for things not covered by the warranty. motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/91148/p/30%2C6720%2C8579/kw/ said it would only be $100 and they can do the lens replacement in (at MOST) 5 business days. It's such a routine repair that they had a separate price set up explicitly for it. So on Friday 04/19, I open a case, give them my credit card details, get an RMA number, and ship it via USPS the same day. I pay a few dollars extra to guarantee it gets there by Monday (4/21) morning (and to get tracking), figuring it should be repaired by that Friday (04/26) and I'd have it soon after that. Meanwhile, I reactive the almost 3 year old Droid X.
Then the problems start.
Monday, 04/22, USPS tracking confirms that the phone is received at 9:50am. I get an email from Motorola reminding me to send it in at 2:50pm, 5 hrs later. I figured it hadn't been processed yet. Tuesday (04/23) afternoon, I manage to check the status of my repair (with difficulty) at their website, and it shows it hasn't been received yet. Their website ( globalrepairtools.motorola.com/serviceandrepair/device/index/en-us/trackrepair/ ) has a LOT of problems, working extremely inconsistently, hanging in multiple browsers and sometimes even putting me through and showing me the status of a repair COMPLETELY unrelated to mine (even though I made sure to copy/paste my own RMA number). Wednesday (04/24), it still showed that my phone hadn't been received, so I called Motorola support (for the first time). After checked the tracking details, the representative confirmed it had been received, but had not yet been logged into the system, and said that the original 5 business day timeline was still likely going to happen. Friday (04/26), still no progress.
Monday 04/29, I call back, they note that according to their system the phone was received on 04/27, five days after it had been delivered, and that the 5 business day cycle actually only starts after it's logged into their system. I was assured that because they had records of talking to me on 04/23 and the phone had already been received then, they'd expedite the repair and I'd hear from them soon after with a tracking number for the shipment. Fast forward a couple of days with the same story (promise of an expedited shipment), on 05/03 I call back again and get told that, Lo and Behold, they were having some further "technical difficulties" at their repair facility but the phone should 100% be done by 05/08 (13 business days and 17 calendars days after it was initially received by Motorola), and I'd get expedited shipping from there. They said they'd send me a bluetooth headset for my trouble (something I don't particularly need). I emailed in a complaint to Motorola at this point, and whoever responded to the email simply said "I could see here that you already spoke with one of our agents from our Repair Team. They assured you that you will get your phone by May 08. We'll just have to take their word for it. I'm sure that they will expedite the repair from here. Our system is doing some updates that is why this happened."
Fine. 05/08 rolls around and I still haven't gotten any details... So I call back, pretty early that morning. They tell me (AGAIN!) that they had some problems at the repair facility and now have no ETA whatsoever when my phone might be done (they don't have any idea what's going on with it. My personal theory is they lost it), but they can send me a replacement Razr Maxx HD. I was OK with that option, but the rep says it will take 3-5 business days until I have the device, though he said it was more likely to be 3 than 5. That puts us at 05/15, right around when I had my family coming in for some big personal events, and I didn't want to be dealing with this then (and I wanted a phone with a functioning camera, while the one on my Droid X was broken).
05/10, I get an email that the order for my replacement Maxx HD was being processed. There was no tracking information in that email, though it did say there would be tracking information forthcoming. Now, for the bluetooth headset they mailed me the previous week, I got the email with the tracking # two days after the headset arrived, so I figured this would be a similar story so I should call in for a tracking # (so I could be home to meet the device when it arrived). Monday 05/13, call and there's no details. Still haven't received any email by Tuesday morning, 05/14 (4-5 business days after my conversation early on 05/08, depending on how you count it), so I call again to see if I could get a tracking number, and actually get a representative who says the phone is in a box at the warehouse ready to be picked up by FedEx. They say a tracking number would only be generated once it was picked up (which sounded strange to me). I call again near the end of business on Tuesday and get much the same story, where a second representative gives me the same story about it being in a box.
05/15 (5-6 business days after the replacement was ordered, 18 business days after Motorola received my original phone for repairs). The representative I get this time says there was some kind of mistake the previous day because of technical difficulties at the distribution warehouse and my order was in a status called "booking", but should be shipped within the next few days. I will admit I got angry at this point, but the agent assured me he had contacted the warehouse and it would only be a day or two till they got through the back orders. Note that at this point, they set some kind of flag so every time I call I start out at level 2 support. Which would be fine, except level 2 support has a minimum of a 35 minute hold time throughout the day, so I'd already practically memorized the entirety of Motorola's hold messages. The representative promises to call me back that day no matter what he hears from the warehouse people to give me an update. No call was ever received.
05/16 (25 calendar days after Motorola received my phone): I call again, get told that the phone was through "booking", was actually "picked", and was in a box and ready to be shipped that day. I call in between spending time with my family (who I see rarely) and different events I have to go to. I ask whether they actually talked to someone at the warehouse and got a confirmation that it would be shipped. That representative says she doesn't have any contact information for the distributor against an email address (say what?) but she'd be happy to send them (yet another!) email. She offers to escalate me to their "executive support", but it's already 4pm so they've gone home. I get a promise I'll get called back the next day.
05/17 AM: I call again, get told that it was still "picked", but would DEFINITELY ship that day. I ask if anyone has heard from the warehouse, the answer is no. I inquire as to possible Saturday delivery because it's getting dangerously close to when I'm actually leaving the state/country on a trip that I will need a phone for (because I've paid for a micro-SD card that I'll use abroad and it's my only planned way to keep in touch with my responsibilities back home), and get told by the representative it's probably not possible but I'll definitely get a call back later that day. I have some events planned that evening where I can't touch my phone, so he says he'll leave a VM or an email with details of any updates.
05/17 PM: I get a call from Motorola somewhere around 6pm and they leave a voice mail saying they saw I talked to someone that day already so they don't have anything to add. (say what?) Then I get an email from Motorola that has one word in the subject (HOTDELAY), and it basically says "please call us" and a different number than the one I'd been calling. So I call that number as soon as I'm able, get through to a supervisor for the repair team. Oh my, apparently the distributers warehouse was having further technical difficulties! Amazingly, that phone that I had been assured four (or was it five?) separate times would be shipping "that day" all week, wasn't actually in stock! They won't be able to ship me a phone until late June at the earliest. Needless to say, I flip out, saying that's completely unacceptable. So the supervisor says she'll call corporate and get back to me on Monday (05/20), since they'd already gone home and wouldn't be in on the weekend. She promises she'd call me by 1pm on Monday.
05/20 early PM: Wow. Supervisor actually manages to call me back around 1230pm and gives me the offer that Motorola will give me a Droid 2 as a loaner phone until they get the Razr Maxx HD back in stock. That's right. Not a Droid 4. Or a Droid 3. Or a Droid 2 Global. But the phone that is FOUR MODELS out of date and as old as my Droid X. Needless to say, I tell her that that is not an acceptable option, and the only thing that I'd accept at this point is for Motorola to reimburse me in full for the cost of a phone. She says she'd look into it.
05/20 later PM: I get a call back from the supervisor. Corporate has agreed to reimburse me for a phone. Hallelujah! I ask a few questions. It goes like this: "Will they reimburse me for the full value of the phone?" "Yes." "Will I be reimbursed all taxes and fees?" "Yes, of course, we will reimburse you all taxes". I should have gotten details of all this in writing, but I didn't think of it. I almost cry from joy to finally get this resolved. I go to Best Buy (because they don't have a charge to return phones and at this point, I'm skeptical until the check is sent) buy a phone for full price (because I obviously don't have an upgrade available for myself yet), fax them the receipt with my case number, name, and address written on it, and move on my merry way. I figure I'll call them later the next day to make sure the fax was received and the reimbursement is being processed. I was so excited because I was leaving for my multi state/country traveling on 05/22, and I was relieved to get this huge monkey off my back.
05/21 (the 1 month "anniversary" of Motorola receiving my phone): I get a phone call back from supervisor lady. She is incredulous that I somehow thought they'd reimburse me for a brand new full priced device. Apparently she meant they'd only reimburse me for the purchase price of the original device, so they want my receipt back from October and will only reimburse me for $250 (and for none of the VZW subsidy that I got by signing a new 2 year contract). I can only respond that I never agreed to such an absurd deal and that there is absolutely no way I'd accept 1/3 of the value of the phone that I sent in to be repaired as reimbursement. She says that's the maximum they'd consider reimbursing me, and that me buying a replacement phone myself was my own problem and that I should return it. I request to speak to her supervisor and eventually get forwarded to their corporate consumer advocacy office. Talk to someone from consumer advocacy who says they'd look in to see what they could do for me and we'd talk again later that afternoon.
05/21 PM: Individual from consumer advocacy calls me back. Says there is no way anyone would ever agree to reimburse me the full value of a replacement device, just the subsidized price I paid once. He acknowledges that the device is valued at much higher than that and that I only got that price through a subsidy I (for all intents and purposes) pay back through the contract I'm still liable for, but he says that is irrelevant for their purposes. I tried to escalate to an even higher level of support and get this resolved, but he refused, saying there is no one higher and that I had to take what he offered or leave it. When inquiring about another option (compared to getting reimbursed a fraction of the cost of the device), he changed the story regarding their stock of phones once again and says more will be in stock on 05/22. He also personally guaranteed that mine would be the first one out the door from that shipment. When I said I didn't believe him, he said that given my case history he wouldn't believe himself either, but I had no other choices. He said they'd ship it to where I would be on 05/22-05/23. After numerous complaints from me about the absolutely abhorrent service so far, he (begrudgingly) attempts to offer me another bluetooth headset. After my frank refusal of that, he finally offers to ship me a $100 google play card. All this time, he just patronizes me with "I understand your frustration", and no real apology on behalf of Motorola.
05/22: I get a call back from consumer advocacy. It turns out that no, in fact, there was no stock that came in that day. They offer to send me a Razr M until they can get more HD MAXXs sometime later the following month. I refused, and say (again) that the only option I'll accept at this point was reimbursement for a replacement device, because it's been a month and I'm leaving the country for a few weeks and don't want to deal with this. He says it's not possible. I ask who could make it possible and get told this is a policy of their finance department. He refuses to let me speak to the finance department, but puts me on hold and (lo and behold!) he says that he spoke with them and got approval to send me a check to reimburse me for the replacement. But because they're paying the full amount, I will not get a $100 google play card for my trouble or any other reimbursement. I should be thankful that they deign to pay me back for the device I sent them (and they lost somewhere). I make sure to get this offer sent to me in writing later that day.
05/30: They mail the check. Only took a week. I was amazed. I got it a few days later.
Lessons learned: NEVER utilize Motorola for any kind of repair services. A repair that I could have easily done in 30 seconds (if I could have reasonably gotten ahold of the part without having it shipped from Hong Kong over a period of 2+ weeks) was not only never completed, but ballooned into a whole saga.
I've considered filing a complaint with the Better Business Bureau, but I don't think they could do anything. I don't know what else I can do, so I'm also spreading the story to all the forums I know so people can be warned to not use their repair services. Would have done it earlier but I had the international travel and then a whole bunch of work to do when I got back.
Legal action for my time (I estimate I spent >20 hrs on hold/talking to Motorola) wouldn't be worth it, given that any attorney would charge more per hour than Motorola would ever offer me. To be honest, I'd have been satisfied if they had ever offered me a sincere apology, an honest update on the situation, or maybe even that (paltry) $100 that they had considered offering me but in the end took the offer back. I was over a month without a normally functioning smartphone.Instead, all I got was patronization, dishonesty that I'd get a phone back "soon", and a bluetooth headset.
If any of you are stuck down the motorola black hole, the biggest advice I can give is to call the consumer advocacy office. Insist you be transfered up there if you have to. They are also less than honest and less than useful, but they seemed to at least be able to contact the people that could do something. If they tell you something is not possible, don't trust them. Insist to find out who can make it possible, because it probably is. I'd post the number myself, but I don't know how much I'm allowed to.
Yup, this is exactly why I try to repair stuff myself instead of sending it in.
But thanks for sharing.
That's why I get the best buy warranty. 10 bucks a month but this is my 3rd phone. Each one has been free and taken no longer then a week.
Sent from my PACMAN MATRIX HD MAXX
That's why I take care of my electronics.
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TLDR summary: Sent a Razr MAXX HD in to Motorola to have a cracked screen repaired with a guarantee that it would be done within 5 business days. For over the next month, I am continually lied to that I'd get a phone back within the next 1-5 days (depending on who I talk to), before they finally reimburse me for a replacement, well over a month later.
Really sorry to hear it. We (Motorola Support) are just recovering from a rough patch in repair, and looks like you had one of the worst experiences. It's not typical of our performance and we are working hard to get 100 percent back to our quoted turnaround time.
Again, sorry you had such a crummy experience.
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I was going to say I've read elsewhere of delayed repair times.
I am utterly shocked and devastated they were only willing to reimburse you for the subsidised amount! Who says you have an upgrade or access to one?!!
I am even scared to write about screen issues. My insurance company has a hard enough time keeping my model in stock and I can't afford to have $700+ temporarily out of commission.
Legal action... Maybe small claims court?
I would always remember never count on anyone for anything. You're bound to be let down and stressed. I can tell by the girth of your story you mean what you say.
It looks like Motorola read this. I'm shocked they didn't send you a free accessory or something to help compensate you.
I love this phone and its battery life and laugh every time my friends are tethered to an outlet. But all in all its just a cell phone and luckily you were even offered a loaner to begin with.
Fortunately this is not a story we hear every day and hopefully some xda members will chime in with their positive experiences.
Motorola please port webtop to this device!
Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX HD
That is by far the worst experience I have heard of so far, and by all means if the customer has paid for the device and can prove so, should be entitled to a full refund or at least give the original phone back so the person can find other less stressful means of repair. That is simply unacceptable and Motorola should be held fully accountable if they are going to brand their name on anything. This story makes me upset even gees.
Razr HD
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Who said you were guaranteed to get it back in 5 days? Their website says 7-10 days after receiving it.
My experience with Moto service was OK. Not great. Just OK. I did get it back quick, 5 business days in fact. Their website and tracking are a pathetic joke for sure.
Like you, USPS indicated that my phone had been delivered but their system didnt show it. I contacted them and they gave me the same spill about the system having problems. I can accept that software systems can have problems sometimes so I wasn't to upset. I figured id give it a few days.
A few days passed and my phone still showed it hadn't been received. I called them and made sure (in a very respectful way) that i was very unhappy that they were having problems. They escalated my case and i talked to a new person. The new person gave me about the same explanation as the first person but assured me they would have it to me a max of 10 days from receiving it. Frustrated I accepted their excuse.
The next day it sowed as received in their system and that they were repairing it.
Two days later it showed as shipped. Funny thing was the "Shipped", emphasis on the "-ED", was for that day at like 1:00 pm. I got the notification that it had "shipped" like at 8:00 am. In addition to the fake ship date there was "NO TRACKING". I was thinking that those as shats marked it as shipped to appease me.
I was about ready to call them again but gave them a chance to make good. Then the next day it showed up all nice and shiny.
They did a good job repairing it. They replaced the whole frame, not just the glass. I know because there was a noticeable scuff on the top right corner that is no longer there.
This was actually for my sisters phone. She borrowed mine because here work requires here to have a phone. Anyway, she might not get it back. :cyclops: Ive quite enjoyed it the last few days.
That's horrible!
Good thing I saw this, I'll keep your experience in mind for if I ever need to get anything on my phone repaired. I can't believe you went through that much trouble. I quite am disappointed with Motorola at this moment.
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Just venting.
When I ordered the VZW developer edition I also ordered a case.
When the order arrived I did not receive the case I received a headphone headband. Even the packing slip said this.
I called in and after 30 minutes on hold and 3 different reroutes I was told the case was out of stock so I asked for my money back. "That can't be done until Monday" they said:
Monday last week "45 minutes on hold, 4 reroutes and finally I get someone. Repeatedly I tell them I cannot return the case because I do not have it. 60 minutes later I get an email for return instructions for my case.
I call again 25 minutes on hold, 3 reroutes. I try to explain over and over again that I want my money back. Finally they agree.
7 days later I do not have my money back. I call again, 3 disconnects after holding 75 minutes on hold and 4 reroutes. Again the same story. They person seemed to get quite annoyed because I was expressing annoyance at the process. He promised I would receive an email confirming in 1 hours.
4 hours later and I have nothing.
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I'm on hold now to exchange my dev edition. For Some Reason i cant unlock the bootolaader
yes reps appeared to be very stupid when i called. 3rd time was the charm. try not to speak with woman there
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I'm on hold now to exchange my dev edition. For Some Reason i cant unlock the bootolaader
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Were you able to request the code from Moto's web site?
Well it's now 6 hours and I called back, of course I have been on hold for 35 minutes listening to the same message over and over and over and over and over again.
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Well it's now 6 hours and I called back, of course I have been on hold for 35 minutes listening to the same message over and over and over and over and over again.
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After my experiences with this last 6 weeks.. YIKES! All I can say is GOOD LUCK!!!
Well I just had a tough time with their services as well. I just bought the Dev edition and it randomly reboots through out the day. I talked to them last week and they had me do a factory reset. Well it still reboots at random. Yesterday it locked up where I couldn't do anything with it for a few hours. I figured something must have drained the battery. After a few hours it finally powered back on and showed that battery at 83%. I have spent 1 and half on the phone today with them and a 1 and half last week troubleshooting this phone. I asked if I could return this unit and they send me another unit but would not. They will not give me the cyber monday sale price on it, but did offer to give me the standard Moto x for 150 off after they receive this one back. I tried explaining that I can't go a without a phone as my job requires after hours support. She suggested I find an old phone. I have to send this phone in and have it repaired by them. So I'll be out a phone for a week. They don't care.
Have you tried chatting live with a representative?
If you go to the link below, and click on 'Chat Live' - I was able to connect with someone in under a minute and they were pretty helpful with their information:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/mcp/service/p/30,6720,8696//#/service
Just another avenue to try. Let me know how it goes
I did live chat with them last Friday and waited in queue for that for nearly an hour (with only 13 people ahead of me..) only to be told they couldn't help me on chat, I had to call their hotline.
I called that on my drive home work and was on hold for about 35 minutes before I talked to someone who told me I called the wrong number. He asked what number I called, and I gave it to him, and he said that was the right number, and he didn't know why I got routed to him. He transferred me and after about 20 more minutes, I got disconnected. I called back and was on hold until their support center closed at 7pm.
Calling back tonight on my drive home to see if I have any better luck.
Thankfully, I haven't had any problems with my actual device, but yes, their CS centers are a nightmare. I called in to find out why my device hadn't shipped yet (I knew it was probably because of the storm, but I wanted to hear if it was even actually ready to be shipped, or was still being assembled) because chat said they could not check that kind of thing. The guy on the phone was obviously just reading canned responses off of a script, and wouldn't just directly answer a question. I had to ask at least three times for him to just say, "Yes, that is correct," and confirm an assumption about my order.
My only "problem" was a case that was damaged when it arrived. Their chat acted like they were doing me a huge, big favor by sending me a replacement free of charge. Hey, it's not my fault that it was either a) sent out damaged or b) damaged in transit. Shipping claims are the responsibility of the shipper. Don't tell your customer that they're a "valued customer" but that you're going to make a big concession and offer to replace defective merchandise on a "one time only basis".
I bought a Moto G on 11/26, but changed my my mind later in the day. Unfortunately i wasn't able to cancel the order. I then ordered a Moto X which BTW I love. I then got a call from a supervisor who said she cancelled the G. So I received my X about 12/12. The next day I see my Fed Ex guy walking up to my door with the G that was supposedly cancelled. I refused delivery and sent it back to Motorola who received it 2 days ago, (Federal Express conformation). I just spent 45 minutes on the phone trying to find out about my refund. I was told even though they confirm receiving the phone back from me they have to open up an investigation on the issues which could take 10 days and then they would send it to a supervisor to authorize a refund! All I can say is WOW! Love the phone ...hate the service!
My biggest complaint with their "customer care" is that you can get 5 unique answers from 5 individuals, and then talk to them three days later and get 5 more unique answers from the same people. It would seem like there's no consistency or shared information between their departments, which is hugely frustrating, as you typically have to chat, then call, then be transferred, transferred again, and then promised a call back, etc. to get your answer. A chat rep should be able to tell me the status of my order the same as a call center rep. It should all be in a synchronized ERP system, not 8 different individual systems - this is Motorla (+ Google), they really should have the resources to do this.
Yep.
My last call ended with them saying they had finally got to the bottom of this and a refund would be issued. The next day I got the case in the mail Now the really weird part is that it turns out I really like the case so I'm just going to keep it.
They are truly hopeless. I hate that they make you take ages explaining a problem only to tell you someone else needs to deal with it. Then the same thing happens with the next person.
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I bought a Moto G on 11/26, but changed my my mind later in the day. Unfortunately i wasn't able to cancel the order. I then ordered a Moto X which BTW I love. I then got a call from a supervisor who said she cancelled the G. So I received my X about 12/12. The next day I see my Fed Ex guy walking up to my door with the G that was supposedly cancelled. I refused delivery and sent it back to Motorola who received it 2 days ago, (Federal Express conformation). I just spent 45 minutes on the phone trying to find out about my refund. I was told even though they confirm receiving the phone back from me they have to open up an investigation on the issues which could take 10 days and then they would send it to a supervisor to authorize a refund! All I can say is WOW! Love the phone ...hate the service!
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I'll give them 10 days to process my refund then I'll just call my credit card company. They truly are a mess in customer service!
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My biggest complaint with their "customer care" is that you can get 5 unique answers from 5 individuals, and then talk to them three days later and get 5 more unique answers from the same people. It would seem like there's no consistency or shared information between their departments, which is hugely frustrating, as you typically have to chat, then call, then be transferred, transferred again, and then promised a call back, etc. to get your answer. A chat rep should be able to tell me the status of my order the same as a call center rep. It should all be in a synchronized ERP system, not 8 different individual systems - this is Motorla (+ Google), they really should have the resources to do this.
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This is 100% true and it annoys me to no end. The funny thing is, I now have 3 pairs of free earphones from them that they don't want back.
nforeses These
Their customer service is awful. I tried for weeks to cancel a phone order and they simply kept saying "it's shipping tomorrow." Now I have an extra dev edition phone. Argh. Thinking of putting it on swappa instead of the hassle of mailing it back (or worse speaking with their CSRs).
BTW...when does the verification nonsense go away for users? I can never read those captcha things... it's like looking at those boats in dots posters.
To update on my post from earlier in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48552145&postcount=9
I did get through to them (after another HOUR on hold) and was routed to the wrong department (again, twice), before finally being directed to someone who could "help". She explained that she would email me a ticket number and requested copies of the charge discrepancies. I was billed more than they stated I would be for my Moto X, so I was asking for clarification on the difference in the confirmation email and what was charged to my account.
I sent the requested screen shots showing the differences and never heard back. It will have been a week tomorrow, and I'll be following up then.
Well, I got an email back from them just now and they offered me either a $25 Play Store credit or a pair of SOL Republic Jax headphones in a color of my choice (the ones they have on their website under Accessories). I've never used that brand, but a coworker said they make good headphones. They're MSRP is $39.99 (which is more than $25), and I rarely buy things on the Play Store (maybe 3-4 purchases in the 5+ years I've been using Android), so I went for the headphones.
Glad they made it right. And the discrepancy on my charge was only like $8.
There seems to be two customer supports...Motorola support and Moto X support link on the email of the order. Motorola seems to be out sourced to India and Moto X in the states.
The best for us was the app in the phone Moto Care...its busy now with the holiday but normally about 1 or 2 in queue.
Sorry to hear about your troubles. My experience has been great so far!
So this morning I was doing some searching on my S10+ I had just taken my phone out the charger it had 98% battery when while searching my phone screen went completely off and it just died my phone didn't receive any charging indicator or messages nothing hard reset didn't work recharging didn't do anything nothing just dead was phone less for the entire day until a couple of hours ago BTW this was a Prism Blue S10+ 128gb Unlocked so I went to Best Buy to fight since I've only had the phone since it released so it has been less than 14Days so I go to the mobile department and they straight up told me well your out of luck you gotta go ahead and order a replacement with Samsung we cant do nothing I was already mad enough as it was that I didnt have a phone to then get hit with oh we can't do nothing so I got mad went to the Geek Squad department since I paid the extra amount for Geek Squad coverage and they tell me that's unusual of an issue so not able to fix it they sent me back to the mobile department they once again weren't able to give me a replacement because the only one they had was a 512gb S10+ ceramic black so I kept arguing because nobody was being of help not Best Buy or Samsung every time I talked to Samsung they said go to Best Buy so that's what I did I got to the point I spent 3 hours in Best Buy fighting with the assistant manager telling me well we can get you another phone instead of a s10+ but the rest will be in store credit like really I spent $1000 I preordered and at the end can only get the remainder in store credit I couldn't do anything else so it got to the point that the only thing I could do was trade in the Defective S10+ and pay an extra $245 after the waste of time I was just exhausted about the situation just wanted to be done with it came to post my inconvenient issue that I had and want to know if anyone elses S10+ are acting up and how is Samsung or Best buy or The Carrier helping I know that anyone who spent a $1000 dollars on a phone and has to them spend another $245 to get a working device would be mad and mind you with my luck I also lost all my data since my phone was completely dead luckily I have my Samsung backup on and google backup so my contacts were still there but just a horrible angering experience I wanted to share let me know what issues you guys have had so far or if you are smooth sailing and watch out for this issue I know that I most likely wasnt the only one with this issue and could happen to anyone.
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So this morning I was doing some searching on my S10+ I had just taken my phone out the charger it had 98% battery when while searching my phone screen went completely off and it just died my phone didn't receive any charging indicator or messages nothing hard reset didn't work recharging didn't do anything nothing just dead was phone less for the entire day until a couple of hours ago BTW this was a Prism Blue S10+ 128gb Unlocked so I went to Best Buy to fight since I've only had the phone since it released so it has been less than 14Days so I go to the mobile department and they straight up told me well your out of luck you gotta go ahead and order a replacement with Samsung we cant do nothing I was already mad enough as it was that I didnt have a phone to then get hit with oh we can't do nothing so I got mad went to the Geek Squad department since I paid the extra amount for Geek Squad coverage and they tell me that's unusual of an issue so not able to fix it they sent me back to the mobile department they once again weren't able to give me a replacement because the only one they had was a 512gb S10+ ceramic black so I kept arguing because nobody was being of help not Best Buy or Samsung every time I talked to Samsung they said go to Best Buy so that's what I did I got to the point I spent 3 hours in Best Buy fighting with the assistant manager telling me well we can get you another phone instead of a s10+ but the rest will be in store credit like really I spent $1000 I preordered and at the end can only get the remainder in store credit I couldn't do anything else so it got to the point that the only thing I could do was trade in the Defective S10+ and pay an extra $245 after the waste of time I was just exhausted about the situation just wanted to be done with it came to post my inconvenient issue that I had and want to know if anyone elses S10+ are acting up and how is Samsung or Best buy or The Carrier helping I know that anyone who spent a $1000 dollars on a phone and has to them spend another $245 to get a working device would be mad and mind you with my luck I also lost all my data since my phone was completely dead luckily I have my Samsung backup on and google backup so my contacts were still there but just a horrible angering experience I wanted to share let me know what issues you guys have had so far or if you are smooth sailing and watch out for this issue I know that I most likely wasnt the only one with this issue and could happen to anyone.
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Did you fully pay with a credit card? If so, call the credit card company and put a payment hold on the transaction. You need to explain to the card company that you did your due diligence to resolve the issue with the seller.
I once bought a 60" TV from a retailer in NY with my AMEX. The TV was DOA. The screen was cracked in half. I called the retailer for an exchange, they didn't do anything for a week. I finally put a hold on the transaction by calling AMEX. Two days later, the retailer shipped me a new TV.
i'm confused can't you just get a refund for DoA/defective?
As @mngdew mentioned, if you paid it with a credit card, then immediately call the bank, make a report and start a charge-back. Seems to be like a defected unit and usually if you've got it from the Samsung store direct, they would most likely give you a one to one exchange if it's within an acceptable time-frame.
Another thing you can do is to submit a complaint to the BBB on Best Buy.
Your post is hard to read, not a single comma.
It sounds odd that they just refused to service you, that's a case for an immediate replacement, but you also have no Consumer guarantees/protection laws like here in Europe so you have pretty much no meaning as a consumer.
Blocking debit/credit card payments in these cases will only create bigger problems and it's pretty much illegal to do so without a proper reason such as fraud or identity theft, at least here.
You should go back to Best Buy and wave the warranty papers in their faces, that's a warranty case, nothing to do with the 14 days cooling off period, they're trying to scam you.
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Your post is hard to read, not a single comma.
It sounds odd that they just refused to service you, that's a case for an immediate replacement, but you also have no Consumer guarantees/protection laws like here in Europe so you have pretty much no meaning as a consumer.
Blocking debit/credit card payments in these cases will only create bigger problems and it's pretty much illegal to do so without a proper reason such as fraud or identity theft, at least here.
You should go back to Best Buy and wave the warranty papers in their faces, that's a warranty case, nothing to do with the 14 days cooling off period, they're trying to scam you.
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What's so hard about the OP post to read? People like you gets on my nerves. This is not a job application or a college test stop been a police grammar the post is perfectly readable.
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What's so hard about the OP post to read? People like you gets on my nerves. This is not a job application or a college test stop been a police grammar the post is perfectly readable.
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Well, everything?
I had to go back at least 3 times since it's mentally exhaustive.
I'm not blaming him if he has problems of any sort, but perhaps he never started typing properly since nobody got the balls to point it out?
No need to do the internet hurt feelings police either, it's everyone's responsibility to write properly if you expect help, if that's perfectly readable to you because you think at the same pace then it's your own problem.
Samsung and Ubreak could've serviced the phone for free. The latter is partnered with Samsung US, after all. Sounds like BB is running the con game.
The best thing about the ops post is the only punctuation used is at the very end. :laugh:
Ok so lets go back to the beginning. I ordered my one plus 8 pro on the prelaunch on the 22nd and i had issues with battery drain i thought was just me well i decided to root it once i received it and this was before really messing with it. After i rooted i realized my fingerprint scanner wasnt working and went through trouble shooting and One plus set up a remote flashing. Anyways they used MSM and tried to flash my device 4x and canceled it mid flash twice and it ended up in qualcom crash mode. I Was forced to set up an RMA over a week n half ago and they just received the phone on the 1st due to ups issues. It was inspected and my replacement was supposed to go out today and it didnt so i contacted oneplus and they had no idea what was going until i received an email a lil bit ago that they are out of stock and it can take up to 30 days for a replacement. They want me to take a refund or wait for a replacement but the problem is on the prelaunch i got the free wireless charger and bullets and they wont allow me to return them and want to deduct the price of both items. The have given me no other options. I am only making this post so that anyone who needs to RMA will now you may not get a replacement device because they are out of stock and dont keep replacements on hand.
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Ok so lets go back to the beginning. I ordered my one plus 8 pro on the prelaunch on the 22nd and i had issues with battery drain i thought was just me well i decided to root it once i received it and this was before really messing with it. After i rooted i realized my fingerprint scanner wasnt working and went through trouble shooting and One plus set up a remote flashing. Anyways they used MSM and tried to flash my device 4x and canceled it mid flash twice and it ended up in qualcom crash mode. I Was forced to set up an RMA over a week n half ago and they just received the phone on the 1st due to ups issues. It was inspected and my replacement was supposed to go out today and it didnt so i contacted oneplus and they had no idea what was going until i received an email a lil bit ago that they are out of stock and it can take up to 30 days for a replacement. They want me to take a refund or wait for a replacement but the problem is on the prelaunch i got the free wireless charger and bullets and they wont allow me to return them and want to deduct the price of both items. The have given me no other options. I am only making this post so that anyone who needs to RMA will now you may not get a replacement device because they are out of stock and dont keep replacements on hand.
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Theres clearly stock issues all over. Atleast they have agreed to give you a refund or a replacement dont see they issue of why they are the worst customer support. They could turn around and not replace your phone as you caused the issue....
Honestly. Just wait.
Don't return anything, just let it come.
Call them daily and become a pain in their backsides.
Bummer, but might show up sooner...
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Honestly. Just wait.
Don't return anything, just let it come.
Call them daily and become a pain in their backsides.
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Well guys today i was told that if i wait and something is wrong with the device i will be out of warranty to replace it again or refund so i can either get refund now or im screwed.
its ridiculous how they are trying to screw the customer over. I have bought every oneplus device since the 3 and i have called everyday and they told me today that if i dont return the headphones they will charge me for the free gifts so i have to return them if i wanted a refund and i asked if i received this new device and something was wrong would i be able to get a new device or have it replaced and they said no cause after May 31st i would receive a refurbished device and will not be able to get a refund for any purpose. I am honestly over it and thinking about switching to the pixel just because i have never had this issue when returning an item to them.
Dewaynelives said:
Well guys today i was told that if i wait and something is wrong with the device i will be out of warranty to replace it again or refund so i can either get refund now or im screwed.
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I was just told by a OnePlus representative today that the warranty resets after a replacement device. This is really confusing that they're not telling everybody the same thing. I shipped my device today. Hoping for the best
smileguy91 said:
I was just told by a OnePlus representative today that the warranty resets after a replacement device. This is really confusing that they're not telling everybody the same thing. I shipped my device today. Hoping for the best
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You might wanna call back I talk to the main support team and they said that all purchases have been extended to the 31st of this month and will not refund or replace any phones unless refurbished after that. The first time I called they said the same untill I talk to a guy who got ahold of the main support team and they verified that it doesn't reset just they will extend till the 31st.
Dewaynelives said:
You might wanna call back I talk to the main support team and they said that all purchases have been extended to the 31st of this month and will not refund or replace any phones unless refurbished after that. The first time I called they said the same untill I talk to a guy who got ahold of the main support team and they verified that it doesn't reset just they will extend till the 31st.
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That can't be true can it?
In fact I'm pretty sure with a phone that's less then a month old you still have two years warranty.. RMA or not.
The guy who told you otherwise is talking bubbles.
You have two years end of. It's your absolute right.
Don't return anything, let the phone come back to you and you'll retain your warranty. This is their fault and that is that.
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That can't be true can it?
In fact I'm pretty sure with a phone that's less then a month old you still have two years warranty.. RMA or not.
The guy who told you otherwise is talking bubbles.
You have two years end of. It's your absolute right.
Don't return anything, let the phone come back to you and you'll retain your warranty. This is their fault and that is that.
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You'd prolly need to find the relevant laws to begin with, or scour their ToS and warranty info. That's a bit of time itself.
Then, you'd need to present a case with them, and who says they're remotely competent. OP customer support has legitimately been worse than google as customer support. I honestly feel it's there to put a check mark on paper.
So lets say that with said proof, they still deny it. Ok, cool. Now what? I mean, if you're fortunate, you can take them to court over it. But this isn't a small business. Some companies will legitimately draw out court cases and more, simply for the fact you'll have to give up at some point, because we all don't have hundreds of thousands waiting in the bank, and the years to process the info. By the time you even did succeed anywhere, this phone would be 5 years old at least.
In all honesty, short of gross misconduct, oneplus can pretty much do whatever they want at this moment, and there's very little recourse if any for them to deal with it.
Corporate tyranny is real. This is my first OP device, and as much I like it (minus dislikes on some) the customer service is one of the worst I have ever experienced. So much so, this will be my last OP device as well.
Sorry if none of this reads coherently, half asleep.
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You'd prolly need to find the relevant laws to begin with, or scour their ToS and warranty info. That's a bit of time itself.
Then, you'd need to present a case with them, and who says they're remotely competent. OP customer support has legitimately been worse than google as customer support. I honestly feel it's there to put a check mark on paper.
So lets say that with said proof, they still deny it. Ok, cool. Now what? I mean, if you're fortunate, you can take them to court over it. But this isn't a small business. Some companies will legitimately draw out court cases and more, simply for the fact you'll have to give up at some point, because we all don't have hundreds of thousands waiting in the bank, and the years to process the info. By the time you even did succeed anywhere, this phone would be 5 years old at least.
In all honesty, short of gross misconduct, oneplus can pretty much do whatever they want at this moment, and there's very little recourse if any for them to deal with it.
Corporate tyranny is real. This is my first OP device, and as much I like it (minus dislikes on some) the customer service is one of the worst I have ever experienced. So much so, this will be my last OP device as well.
Sorry if none of this reads coherently, half asleep.
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Nah I get you. Tbh any company can act in this way. I've only had to contact OnePlus 2 times and they were good.
It's the situation I think that's causing problems. Personally I'd hold fire and let it come back. Just get one of them to say that it'll happen and you'll be fine.
Or not. Just get a refund and bite the bullet on the bullets, could probably get a Xiaomi or similar device for the remainder of the money
Ok just to update this a bit. I have no idea what's going on now now I agreed to a refund and now waiting for such. They have giving me different stories bout the returns and such but i was referring to the fact if you buy a one plus device you have 15 days to get a brand new replacement or refund and after the 15days it's refurbished and no chance of refund. At first I was told that the 15days restarts once u receive the replacement but now I'm being told that all devices are covered till may 31st.
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Ok just to update this a bit. I have no idea what's going on now now I agreed to a refund and now waiting for such. They have giving me different stories bout the returns and such but i was referring to the fact if you buy a one plus device you have 15 days to get a brand new replacement or refund and after the 15days it's refurbished and no chance of refund. At first I was told that the 15days restarts once u receive the replacement but now I'm being told that all devices are covered till may 31st.
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Great then stick with that. Calls are recorded, you can refer to that, note the time..
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Great then stick with that. Calls are recorded, you can refer to that, note the time..
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Thanks bud I have most the chat logs in my email so that's one thing but OnePlus has a special response team that only the call reps can contact and without them contacting them they just repeat same thing.
So let me get this straight. You were having battery issues so instead of doing a factory reset or contacting customer support you took it upon yourself to root the device causing more issues? Now you're mad at OnePlus because you're getting some sort of a run around because OnePlus devices are sold out?
To be honest if it were me I wouldn't be so reluctant to hand out a free phone or a refund after you caused more issues than just battery drain. The initial problem could have been possibly fixed fairly easily had you have not tinkered with the phone. After you rooted the device they tried to flash it and it wouldn't work and you're saying it's somehow oneplus' fault? Yikes
Guess this should be a lesson learned. Don't Tinker with a device that has issues and expect 100% full compliance from the manufacturer. Just for an example I have a warranty on my vehicle and I was told if I do any self repairs my warranty is voided. You should just be happy they're offering you what they have since you have already said it was you that caused the problems outside of the battery drain.
Oh and let's not forget the fact that you want OnePlus to give you money for free items that you received when purchasing the phone. I mean for real they were free..
Update still no refund.
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Ok so lets go back to the beginning. I ordered my one plus 8 pro on the prelaunch on the 22nd and i had issues with battery drain i thought was just me well i decided to root it once i received it and this was before really messing with it. After i rooted i realized my fingerprint scanner wasnt working and went through trouble shooting and One plus set up a remote flashing. Anyways they used MSM and tried to flash my device 4x and canceled it mid flash twice and it ended up in qualcom crash mode. I Was forced to set up an RMA over a week n half ago and they just received the phone on the 1st due to ups issues. It was inspected and my replacement was supposed to go out today and it didnt so i contacted oneplus and they had no idea what was going until i received an email a lil bit ago that they are out of stock and it can take up to 30 days for a replacement. They want me to take a refund or wait for a replacement but the problem is on the prelaunch i got the free wireless charger and bullets and they wont allow me to return them and want to deduct the price of both items. The have given me no other options. I am only making this post so that anyone who needs to RMA will now you may not get a replacement device because they are out of stock and dont keep replacements on hand.
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That sounds like they went above and beyond to keep you happy, once you rooted it, they could have told you no replacement or refund.
Also, you will not receive your replacement for at least a couple more months, the phone is out of stock and given the current global issues I don't see them shipping out replacements any time soon.
As a previous post said, let's hope you learned a lesson and contact support BEFORE rooting.
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That sounds like they went above and beyond to keep you happy, once you rooted it, they could have told you no replacement or refund.
Also, you will not receive your replacement for at least a couple more months, the phone is out of stock and given the current global issues I don't see them shipping out replacements any time soon.
As a previous post said, let's hope you learned a lesson and contact support BEFORE rooting.
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Actually You're wrong! It wasn't cause I rooted maybe if you read the whole thing you'd understand! They set me up with an appointment to flash the device with a flashing appointment and the guy started and stopped mid flash 3x then it got stuck in Qualcomm crash mode and he said to replace it! I have waited over a month for a refund also and the replacement as far as that I don't even want to deal with them anymore! They have no idea what goes on in this company and for over a thousand dollars you damn right I'm gonna be pissed.
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Actually You're wrong! It wasn't cause I rooted maybe if you read the whole thing you'd understand! They set me up with an appointment to flash the device with a flashing appointment and the guy started and stopped mid flash 3x then it got stuck in Qualcomm crash mode and he said to replace it! I have waited over a month for a refund also and the replacement as far as that I don't even want to deal with them anymore! They have no idea what goes on in this company and for over a thousand dollars you damn right I'm gonna be pissed.
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So you're waiting for a refund or a replacement? Did you send everything back? If you send everything back and haven't gotten the refund, dispute it with your credit card company.
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Request replacement they told me to change it to refund cause it would be two months for a replacement and still nothing. If you want proof message me I'll send you proof. I sent everything back I have screenshotted the chats and all.