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My Nexus One/HTC Ordering Debacle

I ordered a replacement AT&T Nexus One on Monday 6/7 at 8:00 am.
I received no confirmation email, just one stating that my card had to be authorized, etc. The funds ($529) almost immediately went on hold from my account. I called immediately following the order, stating that I hadn't received a confirmation for the new device/shipping label for the defective device. She said "We're about to switch over our system, so I'll push it through manually. You should receive your Device and shipping label within 24 Hours". Great, I said.
This morning, I woke up and still nothing. No shipping label. I called again. Spoke to a different HTC rep. I told her I hadn't received the confirmation etc. She said the funds were awaiting authorization. I explained that they had been authorized, just not updated on there end. She checked and saw that, talked to a supervisor, and "pushed the order through". I should be "receiving the shipping label within 2-3 hours and the device within 24". Great, I said.
3 hours later, no shipping label. I called again. This time, I talked to a seemingly more savvy rep. He told me the same, the funds were awaiting authorization. I explained that this was the third time I was calling about this. He placed me on hold for a few minutes, came back on the line and said, once again, "I've pushed it through". I told him that the last two reps said the same, to no avail. He kindly placed me on hold again. When he came back, he said "I've given the order priority and escalated the situation. You should receive your device within the next 24 hours".
I REALLY wanted to believe him. I couldn't.
3 hours later, I called back and spoke with another rep. This gentleman was clearly a smart guy who had it together. I told him the situation. He reviewed the action taken by the last three reps and said "I just dealt with this same type of situation on my previous call". The real story came out.
Apparently, HTC/Google screwed the pooch.
They've "switched over to a new system", meaning everyone who purchased seemingly within the last week has been left in "Order Limbo". That's right folks, HTC has my money and my phone. Not only did they neglect to warn customers that they were making this switch, they also didn't notify their CSRs (customer service reps). This man actually called the texas corporate office to get to the bottom of the situation. He was extremely kind and helpful. He had told me about the previous customer who had ordered and not received. He was headed to Kuwait with the army. I told him my situation wasn't quite as dire, as I was just using an old, broken G1/Dream in the meantime. He snidely remarked "that sounds worse than Kuwait to me". I chuckled, but wanted to move on to the bad news.
He said it is totally out of his hands, he'll make the notes on my account. He explained that several orders were placed in this 'Limbo" period. They are apparently stuck in the "awaiting authorization" phase of the process. The must be MANUALLY PROCESSED by the Texas corporate office. He said they're begrudgingly giving him "24 hours or bust" till shipment. That means that not only will my $529 Nexus One not be delivered next day, it won't be delivered the next day, or the next day, or maybe even the next.
HTC, Google, I love you. Please don't screw this up any more. Please provide some sort of fix for the faithful customers. Your product rocks. Your service reps are extremely kind and attentive. Your system is, apparently, a mess right now.
I should not suffer because you have made the mistake of switching over your "system" and fudging dozens of orders.
My final rep said, jokingly, "No good thing comes without pain". I said, "I thought the $529 was the pain".
Please, HTC/Google, fix this, get me my phone, and then do something else on top of it to make me happy. This is to the point of frustration.
Figured this might clear things up for anyone experiencing the same. We can cry together.

Uh dude...they said to give them 24 hours. You gave them three after each call. At least you didn't get a defective phone after a long wait like I did. I'm down 1124 for the nexus one until htc processes the return of my defective one.
I know you are anxious to get your hands on the phone, but you must understand that nothing in this world runs smoothly 100% of the time.
Anyways, just wanted to give you some perspective on your situation. Good luck. Hope you enjoy the phone whenever you get it.
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You should call your bank to let them know that you're buying the phone and how much the total charge will be so they don't hold it up. Also, don't freak out so much. This happened to a lot of us, myself included, when the phone was released.

needmoregigs said:
Uh dude...they said to give them 24 hours. You gave them three after each call.
I know you are anxious to get your hands on the phone, but you must understand that nothing in this world runs smoothly 100% of the time.
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They said I wold receive a shipping confirmation after 3 hours on two occasions. That's why I called back. Only on the last call did I get actual, factual, accurate info.
I can't believe you guys are just like "whatever". I get that in the scheme of things, it's just a phone, but it's a $529 investment. I'm paying for a premium product - I expect premium service at every level.
The thing that really bothers me is that I wasn't notified in advance, ie. "We are undergoing system maintenance and orders are subject to delays". I was told next-day. I expect next-day. I work in social media. My phone is one of my greatest tools. My first Nexus has "Bad RAM", that's why I'm having the replacement unit sent out. I think I have a bit of a right to be upset at this point.

chordmasta said:
They said I wold receive a shipping confirmation after 3 hours on two occasions. That's why I called back. Only on the last call did I get actual, factual, accurate info.
I can't believe you guys are just like "whatever". I get that in the scheme of things, it's just a phone, but it's a $529 investment. I'm paying for a premium product - I expect premium service at every level.
The thing that really bothers me is that I wasn't notified in advance, ie. "We are undergoing system maintenance and orders are subject to delays". I was told next-day. I expect next-day. I work in social media. My phone is one of my greatest tools. My first Nexus has "Bad RAM", that's why I'm having the replacement unit sent out. I think I have a bit of a right to be upset at this point.
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If you're having a replacement sent out, why did you have to order a new one?

I chose the "We'll hold $529 from your account, send a new unit, you send the old, we diagnose and charge whatever, subtract that from the $529, and release the rest" method because I was told I'd get it a phone the quickest this way (within 24 hours). It's now been 52 hours and I just received the shipping label for my unit that needs repair. I was supposed to receive that within 24 hours as well.
Do you understand why this is all very frustrating? Communication has been 100% initiated by me, I have not been kept up to date, and only one rep has been transparent with me. Meanwhile, I'm Nexus-less.

Fyi, verizon extended worry free policy to 60 days

I talked to a verizon rep yesterday as well as a supervisor, and during that call the supervisor told me that because of the supply issues with the phone the worry free guarantee has been extended to 60 days. I figured someone here might be happy about that news, and I haven't seen it announced anywhere.
The situation in how I found out:
I'm replacing this phone with a moto droid x, because I've had the same issues with both my original inc, and the replacement. They first told me I couldn't get a different device because I accepted the replacement. I asked them where they have the policy that says this, and they all pointed me to the 1 paragraph sales pitch on their website, and then reminded me I was outside my 30 day window anyway. I said where does it say I cannot get a different device, there is no information regarding the policy, also if my phone wouldn't have taken 35 days to be replaced I would still be within my window. Then eventually I learned of the 60 day return policy when I spoke with a supervisor.
Problems with both phones:
Both phones don't work in the car dock unless it's grounded, also when I plug it into my aux port it starts voice dialing or skipping tracks in pandora all crazy like. It's because the headphone jack isn't made properly, it thinks I'm hitting a button on a headset constantly. I've used 4 or 5 different cables and get the same result. Never had this issue with any phone before.
1 thing that isn't wrong with my phone tho is I can hold it any way I like and still get a great signal
I've had the tp1 and tp2 then moto droid, and now the droid inc.

Don't think I'm being rude here, but where does it say that anywhere in writing? The CSR's will do ANYTHING to get you off the phone; they'll promise you the world.
I talked to someone on Saturday to ask a couple questions about the billing on my account, and turns out the guy signed my wife's line up for a few additional features without asking. So once we realized, on Monday, I called up and got it adjusted. While talking to the guy who was taking the features off, I asked about my Dinc's backorder, and he said "Oh, I'm sure it'll ship 4 or 5 days earlier than the ship date we quoted you when you bought it." Really? Because that would mean that THOUSANDS of people have canceled their Dinc orders, and I don't buy it. Not yet, anyway. Maybe come Thursday, when they get the X in their hand.
Anyway, I would take this news with a grain of salt until we get something in writing on VZW letterhead.

I agree with you about customer service reps being shady, I had a guy replace a phone for my wife under the 30 day window back in march, he said it was a free replacement from an eris to abb storm 2. When I shipped back the eris I still had the charge for the bb on my bill. Every time I called during the 30 day window about getting the charge off they said it will come off at the next billing cycle. On day 31 I called back because it was still there and was told by everyone and their mother that I had to eat the 530 dollars because it's over the 30 day return window. The sales rep that originally "helped" me was a predatory sales man, and noone there would give me a straight answer on any call until I couldn't return it.
All I was saying is that a supervisor told me that because they've never had a situation like this before, that they were extending the window to 60 days. If you're in that window, try and see if it's true or not. We all know how shady some verizon reps can be.

Dell Warranty Claim Rant...

Hey Gang,
Been dealing with Dell customer care over 3 weeks now trying to get my Streak replaced and it has been a nightmare... I just wanted to share my story with the community...
So I have had my Streak for about 2 months. When i first got it, i noticed the LCD would bleed if i put any pressure on the corner of the earpiece, I didn't think much of it until the bleeding became permanent and my screen began to wither away like it was cancerous.... So I call Dell's mobile service customer care area and explain to the nice lady my problem. She was very helpful and took it very seriously and said they would go ahead and send me a replacement ASAP and I should receive it in a couple of days and would get an email that day with the details of the claim. Great! Case closed or so I thought... That was call number one...
Next day still no email, i call them back and the lady i talk to says they didn't have my phone number so they couldn't send the email? Ok, whatever, here is my phone number, and the email arrives an hour later. Check online at the status of my claim and the claim has no info, but i don't worry about it until a few days later when nothing is updated. Called back, guy i talked to was rude and said the order was pending and it should updated by noon, noon nothing happens, i call back and the guys says it is pending and that they are probably on back order, he has no idea how long. At this point i am pissed... the next day i check online again and the order has been canceled for some reason! Call back again (call number 5) and the guy is like, oh must have been a mistake i will open a new order for you, "fuuuuuuu!!!". Couple of days later, no update on the new order, call back and the guy spews the same BS, ask to talk to manager and he says he will take care of it. By the end of the day it is shipped out. Receive it last Friday, 3 weeks after initial call, pop in my sim card and the phone is locked to another network!!! Has the rogers crapware on it but wont accept a rogers sim... FML... call them back, Friday morning, the lady says i will have to call back on Monday as the department that does the unlocks is unavailable... Call back this (Monday) morning and the lady i talked to said the IM was down with the dept that does the unlocking and she would call me back before lunch, no call back so i call again, another lady i talk to looks into it and says i will have to wait 48-72 hrs to get the code. I ask to talk to the manager and he says the same thing, that the only way they can get it is to email the other dept and wait for a reply. "So you cant phone them?" "no" "You are saying that Dell cant contact Dell to get an unlock code for a Dell phone?" "no" "I can go online and spend $20 and get the phone unlocked in 5 mins and you, Dell, the makers of this phone, are telling me i have to wait another week to unlock the phone that they took 3 weeks to replace, all the while paying for mobile data services that i cant use?" "yes"
So this is where I stand now... who knows when i will get this beast unlocked...
Just wanted to vent, i know it is a long post but just wanted to warn people that you have to stay on top of these guys every day if you want to get anything done...

Fire off an EECB (Executive Email Carpet Bomb) to Michael Dell, using either of the following addresses:
[email protected]
[email protected]
Follow these tips: http://consumerist.com/2007/05/how-to-launch-an-executive-email-carpet-bomb.html . You won't have to do steps 3-5 because the list is already in this post. I do believe once the owner of the company is made aware of a problem from one of his customers, it will get resolved VERY quickly.

As the other post said, tell Mike. I did on an issue that was not getting resolved for weeks. It took literally 12 hours from when I sent the email to when I got satisfaction.

If you just call the main dell line, you'll bounce to india and then bounce to the dell streak call center. They should be more than happy to give you the unlock.
When I had to rma my phone they were quite easy about getting me my phone. In fact, I think it came unlocked. Can you not unlock your sim or something?
I didn't read the whole thread so I probably missed something about it.

Sounds pretty similar to my experience minus the unlock issue. Mine bled to death within hours of unboxing, then they sent me a still broken refurb to replace my dead of box new phone. In the end it took 3 weeks and 2 replacements to get a working one. Oh and that was only because I called and harrassed them constantly. I'd probably still not have a phone today since it was "on back order"

Update: Still no unlock code... Sent a nice email to Michael Dell explaining the problem but haven't heard back, sent the following follow up this morning after my conversation with "customer service"
This is an update to my previous email. As I received no reply from the supervisor who promised to call me back within the next 48 hours, I called back yesterday (Wednesday, May 18th). The representative I talked to assured me that the unlock code would be emailed to me yesterday. I explained that I had been given timelines before and was promised that I would be emailed the code yesterday. I was not emailed the code. I called back this morning and just got off the phone with another supervisor. He now tells me that I will have to wait another 2 days to receive the code. I have explained to him how many times I have attempted to get this issue resolved and the supervisor would not budge. He promised to call me back within 2 days, I explained that I had been made that promise many times and I did not believe it would happen, I requested to be transferred to a manager but the supervisor said that the manager was too busy to talk to me. Alas, nothing has changed. I am still paying for services that I am not using. I am continuing to vent my frustrations online at every opportunity and will go out of my way to ensure that consumers are aware of the poor service that awaits them if they chose to purchase Dell products.
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How did you get them to replace it? my screen under the glass has cracked from simply tapping the home button. They are telling me that the screen isn't "hardware" and not covered by the warranty and i have to pay $249!
my damage wasn't caused by "external causes such as accident, abuse, misuse, or problems with electrical power" and should be covered by warranty!

NEVER utilize Motorola support for repairs- A horror story

TLDR summary: Sent a Razr MAXX HD in to Motorola to have a cracked screen repaired with a guarantee that it would be done within 5 business days. For over the next month, I am continually lied to that I'd get a phone back within the next 1-5 days (depending on who I talk to), before they finally reimburse me for a replacement, well over a month later.
Full story:
I'm a huge fan of Motorola phones. My first cell phone after High School was an old school Razr, and outside of a brief dalliance with a BlackBerry Storm (my first smartphone), every other phone I've had was made by Motorola. I got a Droid X soon after release in 2010, loved it, and replaced it 2.5 years later when it was showing it's age by getting a Razr Maxx HD on release day. Totally happy with the Razr Maxx HD... until it accidentally fell out of my pocket onto a rock in a parking lot and cracked the screen. Phone was totally functional still, including all portions of the touchscreen, but it had spiderweb cracks on it so I figured I'd get it fixed.
I was excited to see Motorola offers repair services for things not covered by the warranty. motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/prod_answer_detail/a_id/91148/p/30%2C6720%2C8579/kw/ said it would only be $100 and they can do the lens replacement in (at MOST) 5 business days. It's such a routine repair that they had a separate price set up explicitly for it. So on Friday 04/19, I open a case, give them my credit card details, get an RMA number, and ship it via USPS the same day. I pay a few dollars extra to guarantee it gets there by Monday (4/21) morning (and to get tracking), figuring it should be repaired by that Friday (04/26) and I'd have it soon after that. Meanwhile, I reactive the almost 3 year old Droid X.
Then the problems start.
Monday, 04/22, USPS tracking confirms that the phone is received at 9:50am. I get an email from Motorola reminding me to send it in at 2:50pm, 5 hrs later. I figured it hadn't been processed yet. Tuesday (04/23) afternoon, I manage to check the status of my repair (with difficulty) at their website, and it shows it hasn't been received yet. Their website ( globalrepairtools.motorola.com/serviceandrepair/device/index/en-us/trackrepair/ ) has a LOT of problems, working extremely inconsistently, hanging in multiple browsers and sometimes even putting me through and showing me the status of a repair COMPLETELY unrelated to mine (even though I made sure to copy/paste my own RMA number). Wednesday (04/24), it still showed that my phone hadn't been received, so I called Motorola support (for the first time). After checked the tracking details, the representative confirmed it had been received, but had not yet been logged into the system, and said that the original 5 business day timeline was still likely going to happen. Friday (04/26), still no progress.
Monday 04/29, I call back, they note that according to their system the phone was received on 04/27, five days after it had been delivered, and that the 5 business day cycle actually only starts after it's logged into their system. I was assured that because they had records of talking to me on 04/23 and the phone had already been received then, they'd expedite the repair and I'd hear from them soon after with a tracking number for the shipment. Fast forward a couple of days with the same story (promise of an expedited shipment), on 05/03 I call back again and get told that, Lo and Behold, they were having some further "technical difficulties" at their repair facility but the phone should 100% be done by 05/08 (13 business days and 17 calendars days after it was initially received by Motorola), and I'd get expedited shipping from there. They said they'd send me a bluetooth headset for my trouble (something I don't particularly need). I emailed in a complaint to Motorola at this point, and whoever responded to the email simply said "I could see here that you already spoke with one of our agents from our Repair Team. They assured you that you will get your phone by May 08. We'll just have to take their word for it. I'm sure that they will expedite the repair from here. Our system is doing some updates that is why this happened."
Fine. 05/08 rolls around and I still haven't gotten any details... So I call back, pretty early that morning. They tell me (AGAIN!) that they had some problems at the repair facility and now have no ETA whatsoever when my phone might be done (they don't have any idea what's going on with it. My personal theory is they lost it), but they can send me a replacement Razr Maxx HD. I was OK with that option, but the rep says it will take 3-5 business days until I have the device, though he said it was more likely to be 3 than 5. That puts us at 05/15, right around when I had my family coming in for some big personal events, and I didn't want to be dealing with this then (and I wanted a phone with a functioning camera, while the one on my Droid X was broken).
05/10, I get an email that the order for my replacement Maxx HD was being processed. There was no tracking information in that email, though it did say there would be tracking information forthcoming. Now, for the bluetooth headset they mailed me the previous week, I got the email with the tracking # two days after the headset arrived, so I figured this would be a similar story so I should call in for a tracking # (so I could be home to meet the device when it arrived). Monday 05/13, call and there's no details. Still haven't received any email by Tuesday morning, 05/14 (4-5 business days after my conversation early on 05/08, depending on how you count it), so I call again to see if I could get a tracking number, and actually get a representative who says the phone is in a box at the warehouse ready to be picked up by FedEx. They say a tracking number would only be generated once it was picked up (which sounded strange to me). I call again near the end of business on Tuesday and get much the same story, where a second representative gives me the same story about it being in a box.
05/15 (5-6 business days after the replacement was ordered, 18 business days after Motorola received my original phone for repairs). The representative I get this time says there was some kind of mistake the previous day because of technical difficulties at the distribution warehouse and my order was in a status called "booking", but should be shipped within the next few days. I will admit I got angry at this point, but the agent assured me he had contacted the warehouse and it would only be a day or two till they got through the back orders. Note that at this point, they set some kind of flag so every time I call I start out at level 2 support. Which would be fine, except level 2 support has a minimum of a 35 minute hold time throughout the day, so I'd already practically memorized the entirety of Motorola's hold messages. The representative promises to call me back that day no matter what he hears from the warehouse people to give me an update. No call was ever received.
05/16 (25 calendar days after Motorola received my phone): I call again, get told that the phone was through "booking", was actually "picked", and was in a box and ready to be shipped that day. I call in between spending time with my family (who I see rarely) and different events I have to go to. I ask whether they actually talked to someone at the warehouse and got a confirmation that it would be shipped. That representative says she doesn't have any contact information for the distributor against an email address (say what?) but she'd be happy to send them (yet another!) email. She offers to escalate me to their "executive support", but it's already 4pm so they've gone home. I get a promise I'll get called back the next day.
05/17 AM: I call again, get told that it was still "picked", but would DEFINITELY ship that day. I ask if anyone has heard from the warehouse, the answer is no. I inquire as to possible Saturday delivery because it's getting dangerously close to when I'm actually leaving the state/country on a trip that I will need a phone for (because I've paid for a micro-SD card that I'll use abroad and it's my only planned way to keep in touch with my responsibilities back home), and get told by the representative it's probably not possible but I'll definitely get a call back later that day. I have some events planned that evening where I can't touch my phone, so he says he'll leave a VM or an email with details of any updates.
05/17 PM: I get a call from Motorola somewhere around 6pm and they leave a voice mail saying they saw I talked to someone that day already so they don't have anything to add. (say what?) Then I get an email from Motorola that has one word in the subject (HOTDELAY), and it basically says "please call us" and a different number than the one I'd been calling. So I call that number as soon as I'm able, get through to a supervisor for the repair team. Oh my, apparently the distributers warehouse was having further technical difficulties! Amazingly, that phone that I had been assured four (or was it five?) separate times would be shipping "that day" all week, wasn't actually in stock! They won't be able to ship me a phone until late June at the earliest. Needless to say, I flip out, saying that's completely unacceptable. So the supervisor says she'll call corporate and get back to me on Monday (05/20), since they'd already gone home and wouldn't be in on the weekend. She promises she'd call me by 1pm on Monday.
05/20 early PM: Wow. Supervisor actually manages to call me back around 1230pm and gives me the offer that Motorola will give me a Droid 2 as a loaner phone until they get the Razr Maxx HD back in stock. That's right. Not a Droid 4. Or a Droid 3. Or a Droid 2 Global. But the phone that is FOUR MODELS out of date and as old as my Droid X. Needless to say, I tell her that that is not an acceptable option, and the only thing that I'd accept at this point is for Motorola to reimburse me in full for the cost of a phone. She says she'd look into it.
05/20 later PM: I get a call back from the supervisor. Corporate has agreed to reimburse me for a phone. Hallelujah! I ask a few questions. It goes like this: "Will they reimburse me for the full value of the phone?" "Yes." "Will I be reimbursed all taxes and fees?" "Yes, of course, we will reimburse you all taxes". I should have gotten details of all this in writing, but I didn't think of it. I almost cry from joy to finally get this resolved. I go to Best Buy (because they don't have a charge to return phones and at this point, I'm skeptical until the check is sent) buy a phone for full price (because I obviously don't have an upgrade available for myself yet), fax them the receipt with my case number, name, and address written on it, and move on my merry way. I figure I'll call them later the next day to make sure the fax was received and the reimbursement is being processed. I was so excited because I was leaving for my multi state/country traveling on 05/22, and I was relieved to get this huge monkey off my back.
05/21 (the 1 month "anniversary" of Motorola receiving my phone): I get a phone call back from supervisor lady. She is incredulous that I somehow thought they'd reimburse me for a brand new full priced device. Apparently she meant they'd only reimburse me for the purchase price of the original device, so they want my receipt back from October and will only reimburse me for $250 (and for none of the VZW subsidy that I got by signing a new 2 year contract). I can only respond that I never agreed to such an absurd deal and that there is absolutely no way I'd accept 1/3 of the value of the phone that I sent in to be repaired as reimbursement. She says that's the maximum they'd consider reimbursing me, and that me buying a replacement phone myself was my own problem and that I should return it. I request to speak to her supervisor and eventually get forwarded to their corporate consumer advocacy office. Talk to someone from consumer advocacy who says they'd look in to see what they could do for me and we'd talk again later that afternoon.
05/21 PM: Individual from consumer advocacy calls me back. Says there is no way anyone would ever agree to reimburse me the full value of a replacement device, just the subsidized price I paid once. He acknowledges that the device is valued at much higher than that and that I only got that price through a subsidy I (for all intents and purposes) pay back through the contract I'm still liable for, but he says that is irrelevant for their purposes. I tried to escalate to an even higher level of support and get this resolved, but he refused, saying there is no one higher and that I had to take what he offered or leave it. When inquiring about another option (compared to getting reimbursed a fraction of the cost of the device), he changed the story regarding their stock of phones once again and says more will be in stock on 05/22. He also personally guaranteed that mine would be the first one out the door from that shipment. When I said I didn't believe him, he said that given my case history he wouldn't believe himself either, but I had no other choices. He said they'd ship it to where I would be on 05/22-05/23. After numerous complaints from me about the absolutely abhorrent service so far, he (begrudgingly) attempts to offer me another bluetooth headset. After my frank refusal of that, he finally offers to ship me a $100 google play card. All this time, he just patronizes me with "I understand your frustration", and no real apology on behalf of Motorola.
05/22: I get a call back from consumer advocacy. It turns out that no, in fact, there was no stock that came in that day. They offer to send me a Razr M until they can get more HD MAXXs sometime later the following month. I refused, and say (again) that the only option I'll accept at this point was reimbursement for a replacement device, because it's been a month and I'm leaving the country for a few weeks and don't want to deal with this. He says it's not possible. I ask who could make it possible and get told this is a policy of their finance department. He refuses to let me speak to the finance department, but puts me on hold and (lo and behold!) he says that he spoke with them and got approval to send me a check to reimburse me for the replacement. But because they're paying the full amount, I will not get a $100 google play card for my trouble or any other reimbursement. I should be thankful that they deign to pay me back for the device I sent them (and they lost somewhere). I make sure to get this offer sent to me in writing later that day.
05/30: They mail the check. Only took a week. I was amazed. I got it a few days later.
Lessons learned: NEVER utilize Motorola for any kind of repair services. A repair that I could have easily done in 30 seconds (if I could have reasonably gotten ahold of the part without having it shipped from Hong Kong over a period of 2+ weeks) was not only never completed, but ballooned into a whole saga.
I've considered filing a complaint with the Better Business Bureau, but I don't think they could do anything. I don't know what else I can do, so I'm also spreading the story to all the forums I know so people can be warned to not use their repair services. Would have done it earlier but I had the international travel and then a whole bunch of work to do when I got back.
Legal action for my time (I estimate I spent >20 hrs on hold/talking to Motorola) wouldn't be worth it, given that any attorney would charge more per hour than Motorola would ever offer me. To be honest, I'd have been satisfied if they had ever offered me a sincere apology, an honest update on the situation, or maybe even that (paltry) $100 that they had considered offering me but in the end took the offer back. I was over a month without a normally functioning smartphone.Instead, all I got was patronization, dishonesty that I'd get a phone back "soon", and a bluetooth headset.
If any of you are stuck down the motorola black hole, the biggest advice I can give is to call the consumer advocacy office. Insist you be transfered up there if you have to. They are also less than honest and less than useful, but they seemed to at least be able to contact the people that could do something. If they tell you something is not possible, don't trust them. Insist to find out who can make it possible, because it probably is. I'd post the number myself, but I don't know how much I'm allowed to.

Yup, this is exactly why I try to repair stuff myself instead of sending it in.
But thanks for sharing.

That's why I get the best buy warranty. 10 bucks a month but this is my 3rd phone. Each one has been free and taken no longer then a week.
Sent from my PACMAN MATRIX HD MAXX

That's why I take care of my electronics.

Not our finest hour...
Raryn said:
TLDR summary: Sent a Razr MAXX HD in to Motorola to have a cracked screen repaired with a guarantee that it would be done within 5 business days. For over the next month, I am continually lied to that I'd get a phone back within the next 1-5 days (depending on who I talk to), before they finally reimburse me for a replacement, well over a month later.
Really sorry to hear it. We (Motorola Support) are just recovering from a rough patch in repair, and looks like you had one of the worst experiences. It's not typical of our performance and we are working hard to get 100 percent back to our quoted turnaround time.
Again, sorry you had such a crummy experience.
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I was going to say I've read elsewhere of delayed repair times.
I am utterly shocked and devastated they were only willing to reimburse you for the subsidised amount! Who says you have an upgrade or access to one?!!
I am even scared to write about screen issues. My insurance company has a hard enough time keeping my model in stock and I can't afford to have $700+ temporarily out of commission.
Legal action... Maybe small claims court?
I would always remember never count on anyone for anything. You're bound to be let down and stressed. I can tell by the girth of your story you mean what you say.
It looks like Motorola read this. I'm shocked they didn't send you a free accessory or something to help compensate you.
I love this phone and its battery life and laugh every time my friends are tethered to an outlet. But all in all its just a cell phone and luckily you were even offered a loaner to begin with.
Fortunately this is not a story we hear every day and hopefully some xda members will chime in with their positive experiences.
Motorola please port webtop to this device!
Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX HD

That is by far the worst experience I have heard of so far, and by all means if the customer has paid for the device and can prove so, should be entitled to a full refund or at least give the original phone back so the person can find other less stressful means of repair. That is simply unacceptable and Motorola should be held fully accountable if they are going to brand their name on anything. This story makes me upset even gees.
Razr HD
Eclipse V 1.3

Who said you were guaranteed to get it back in 5 days? Their website says 7-10 days after receiving it.
My experience with Moto service was OK. Not great. Just OK. I did get it back quick, 5 business days in fact. Their website and tracking are a pathetic joke for sure.
Like you, USPS indicated that my phone had been delivered but their system didnt show it. I contacted them and they gave me the same spill about the system having problems. I can accept that software systems can have problems sometimes so I wasn't to upset. I figured id give it a few days.
A few days passed and my phone still showed it hadn't been received. I called them and made sure (in a very respectful way) that i was very unhappy that they were having problems. They escalated my case and i talked to a new person. The new person gave me about the same explanation as the first person but assured me they would have it to me a max of 10 days from receiving it. Frustrated I accepted their excuse.
The next day it sowed as received in their system and that they were repairing it.
Two days later it showed as shipped. Funny thing was the "Shipped", emphasis on the "-ED", was for that day at like 1:00 pm. I got the notification that it had "shipped" like at 8:00 am. In addition to the fake ship date there was "NO TRACKING". I was thinking that those as shats marked it as shipped to appease me.
I was about ready to call them again but gave them a chance to make good. Then the next day it showed up all nice and shiny.
They did a good job repairing it. They replaced the whole frame, not just the glass. I know because there was a noticeable scuff on the top right corner that is no longer there.
This was actually for my sisters phone. She borrowed mine because here work requires here to have a phone. Anyway, she might not get it back. :cyclops: Ive quite enjoyed it the last few days.

That's horrible!
Good thing I saw this, I'll keep your experience in mind for if I ever need to get anything on my phone repaired. I can't believe you went through that much trouble. I quite am disappointed with Motorola at this moment.

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Ridiculous Google Pixel RMA Experience

Hello,
I've owned a pixel device for about 2 months now and had started to experience issues with the battery life, standby battery drain and phone shutting off at about 20 percent each time. So I call up google support and explain these issues to them. They agree to replace the device for me. Having purchased the device from a retailer other than google I did not have the option to advance RMA and had to go with the standard one.
On 15th of Feb, I received a mail with shipping labels and other RMA details. On 22nd Feb I send in the phone which they received on 27th. Google is yet to acknowledge this through any mail but their support team over the phone assured me that the phone was received.
Initially, I was promised that a new or refurb phone will be dispatched immediately after the tracking details were updated. Google never met this expectation and so I call them up regarding the same and I was told that it could take 5-10 days for them to process the RMA. At this moment I requested them if they could do anything to expedite the process but they responded negatively every time and told I have no option but to wait which by the way is still the same answer I get every time I call them.
After 10 days passed I hadn't yet received any mail or updates regarding the new device, so I call them up and question the same to them, to which they replied that they need to escalate the case and that it would take them another 48 hrs to resolve the issue. It has now been 4 days since and google still has no idea where my old or the new phone is and they tell me to have patience and wait for the back end team to reply. I must have now spoken to at least 10 representatives and they all give me the answer that nothing can be done about it and that make me feel as if I shouldn't have gone in for the RMA in the first place. I've even requested them to send me back my old faulty unit but refuse to do even that as they don't have the authority to do that.
After reading online, I wasn't shocked to find that am not the only one who has faced such an issue. But what shocked me was that the person hadn't received a device for 50 days and was going to court to file a complaint. Am scared that I don't become a victim of poor google after sales service and have to go to the extent of going to the court.
Edit : - Ok. So I've just gotten off the phone with another representative and he has informed me that I should wait for at least another 48 hrs. So that makes the total turn-around time of about 20 days. That is if they happen to resolve the issue this time.

About two weeks ago I RMA'd my wife's Google Store Pixel (it had the dead-mic-and-speakers disease), and it was smooth as silk.
Refurb was immediately shipped to me via Fedex 2-day, and as expected they placed an auth against my credit card for the cost of the replacement. I shipped back the defective unit three days after I received the refurb.

I like the part where they say in order to get a replacement phone you need to enter your card info, but you wont be charged....just a hold of some sort. So, you enter your card info, submit the order and then they charge you the entire $700+. So you're out of a ton of money until they decide to give it back. You'd think as soon as they receive the old phone they will release the funds back to your account, but before I even received the new phone,4 days later, they gave me my money back. I didn't even send them the old phone, so WTF was the big idea in holding my money if they were just going to give it back before even receiving the old phone? I read about another guy who experienced the same thing and he had to call his creditors and whoever else automatically deducts from his account, because he didn't have the funds to cover his bills. I'm sure theres a lot of people out there who can't cover that even for a few days, or at all. What if you only have $400 to your name?
I dont see why they they dont do like everyone else by sending you the new phone and waiting until they get the old one before they decide to charge you for it.
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UnusualSuspect said:
About two weeks ago I RMA'd my wife's Google Store Pixel (it had the dead-mic-and-speakers disease), and it was smooth as silk.
Refurb was immediately shipped to me via Fedex 2-day, and as expected they placed an auth against my credit card for the cost of the replacement. I shipped back the defective unit three days after I received the refurb.
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Mine had that problem. Dead mic, speakers, couldn't make calls, but mine was also really laggy. It was strange because I called my boss in the morning (the day my phone took a dump) and a couple hours later it just stopped working for no reason. Is this a known issue? Has anyone pinpointed a cause?
EDIT: Ok so I just read up and apparently a solder joint/circuit can split disabling all sound and audio processing. Which makes sense, because I couldn't even makes calls using a bluetooth heaset

That stinks. I had a replacement phone in less than 48 hours from the time I sent my old one via FedEx.

magnumtripod said:
I like the part where they say in order to get a replacement phone you need to enter your card info, but you wont be charged....just a hold of some sort. So, you enter your card info, submit the order and then they charge you the entire $700+. So you're out of a ton of money until they decide to give it back. You'd think as soon as they receive the old phone they will release the funds back to your account, but before I even received the new phone,4 days later, they gave me my money back. I didn't even send them the old phone, so WTF was the big idea in holding my money if they were just going to give it back before even receiving the old phone?
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I just thought I'd fill in some info about credit cards - nothing actually useful for the main problem this thread is about.
More than likely it was actually a "pre-authorization". A pre-authorized charge effectively puts whatever amount on hold and appears as if it's just a normal transaction. In actuality, unless the company who made the charge (Google) takes action, a pre-authorized amount automatically falls off your credit card after up to 5 days or so. I'm not an expert on this, and I don't work in the credit industry - just from working lots of retail, which I don't do anymore, either. So basically, Google didn't control when the charge no longer appeared on your card, and it only would have remained on your card if Google took further action "solidifying" the pre-authorized amount. There's probably a better explanation but as I said, I'm no expert.

Hello
i am a pixel owner,i live in Greece but the device is bought from USA.So i don't know what to do if something goes wrong with the device.
I make a research but i can't find an email or something else to ask google what to do.Does anyone knows how i can find from where my device is bought?
Thanks in advance

For warranty reasons is it best to always buy directly from Google ? I just got mine from Google Store.

mikeprius said:
For warranty reasons is it best to always buy directly from Google ? I just got mine from Google Store.
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Yes.

I hear all these stories about RMAs, shipping in your phone, and the entire hassle of packing it up, taking it to a shipping center and hoping it makes it there,etc, i honestly hope I do not have to go through any of that. It sound like a pain!
For a short time last year i tried out an iPhone, and there is nothing like being able to walk into the store, buying it, and having someone there to answer your questions. When I decided not to keep it , i simply took it back, told the dude 'its not for me right now' , got an instant refund on my card and literally did not get drilled on exactly why I was returning it. From the time I walked out my door to the time I got home about an hour ish of my time and hassle.
I like Google stuff, and i really like my Pixel, no issues at all with it, but that Iphone buying experience is what Google needs to meet or exceed. I know we are living more and more in an online world, but Google needs to figure this out FAST, or they will not be able to compete with that kind of customer service and support considering the cost of this thing and all the drama I have heard about people returning it. I highly doubt you would get a run around and be made to wait if there was a Google store like an Apple Store.
Its about the customer service/support for buying a very high value item and not being treated like a turd from what it seemed like the OP is being treated.

Actually no alot of us enjoy never having to walk in to an Apple store, most of the time you have to have an appointment or wait an hour in my area. Google support has always been above and beyond here but I deal through project fi, they have excellent customer service. Far beyond Apple Care and cheaper imo.