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So I have been searching the forum for a while but haven't been able to piece together a good answer from what I have been reading, so I decided to go ahead and ask. I know that these questions have been asked before, more or less, but at the rate development is going, and with the updated Android builds, I would guess things have changed even from 2-3 weeks ago, let alone 2-3 months.
What are the advantages of a NAND build (nowadays anyhow) over SD? Is it the speed?
Is battery life better on NAND or SD or it is really up to the kernel?
Are RAM editions somewhat speedier than their counterparts? if so, are they less stable or something than a regular NAND or SD version? I mean, if they are equally as stable, why isn't every developer doing RAM versions to get the most possible speed?
I know the speed of the SD card helps with SD versions to some extent. I bought a 16GB class 10 Wintec for that purpose, and it seems to do well. At that point, battery nonwithstanding, would be it worth it to go to a NAND build or would the speedy MicroSD make up most (if not all) the difference?
Thanks for the answers in advance. I just wanted to get a little bit of updated info from those in the know
While I am at it, another question to add to the list.
Does the underlying OS make a difference with the SD build? I know that Android should shut down and supersede the WM drivers, but would having WM7 over WM6.5 as the underlying build make any difference whatsoever to anything when booted into Android from SD?
thanks!
Main advantate of NAND is that you can replace SD card without turning off phone. And your build don't rely on speed of SD card. But due to small storage space, many builds still use SD which kinda defeats it's purpose.
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No one has any idea on the other questions? Thanks for your input matejdo.
Again, some info is appreciated.
SD/RAM/NAND?????????????????????????/
I would really like these questions answered too.
I know that so far NAND is more complicated ....
with 2 or even 3 partitions, from EXT2/3/4, < who knows which is best.
And NAND is not as fast as RAM obv but is much safer in regards to corruption.
I have found SD builds to score higher in flops and quadrant than NAND however which is strange. SD is easier to copy to device, other than that im sure all custom roms have their issues. including screen light on lag.
i have tried and loved darkstone ram edition which was rapid but just not all there is you know what i mean, and now after giving up on dandiests desirez3.4/5 in nand and sd after too many lags, crashes and data drops etc im looking at MCCM HD V4 or MCCM GB1.8 SENSE GINGERBREAD as these seem to be the most stable build with all functioning functions but i shall soon see how they fair.........
.............................greatest respect goes to all devs for you efforts
we're nearly there!
but please any input regarding these questions would personally b appreciated!
Ok, here's my 10 cents. Some of this is debatable but these are pretty standard answers.
jotekman said:
What are the advantages of a NAND build (nowadays anyhow) over SD? Is it the speed?
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Yes, speed, responsiveness, battery life, etc.
jotekman said:
Is battery life better on NAND or SD or it is really up to the kernel?
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Battery life is typically better on NAND. Kernels can also make a difference.
jotekman said:
Are RAM editions somewhat speedier than their counterparts? if so, are they less stable or something than a regular NAND or SD version?
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Technically, RAM editions are faster but they are worse on battery life. Data stored in RAM requires constant power and does not survive a power cycle of the phone, therefore the data is stored typically to SD card, which also consumes more power.
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I mean, if they are equally as stable, why isn't every developer doing RAM versions to get the most possible speed?
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Previous answer is why, more power consumption, data stored on SD.
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I know the speed of the SD card helps with SD versions to some extent. I bought a 16GB class 10 Wintec for that purpose, and it seems to do well. At that point, battery nonwithstanding, would be it worth it to go to a NAND build or would the speedy MicroSD make up most (if not all) the difference?
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They say NAND write operations take longer than an SD card but for the life of me I still find it faster when a ROM is running completely off NAND than off NAND and an SD-EXT partition. Or, NAND versus full-SD- there is a huge difference in responsiveness between read speeds. They are much faster on NAND than even a fast SD card.
Hope that helps...
benc88 said:
I know that so far NAND is more complicated ....
with 2 or even 3 partitions, from EXT2/3/4, < who knows which is best.
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It can be more complicated... until you do it once or twice and fully understand how it works. Now that this has all been out a while everything is starting to standardize and more and more ROM's are using the same partition layouts. From a performance perspective there really isn't anything noticeable between EXT 2/3/4.
Oh, most ROM's now also use CWM, which along with an SD-EXT partition can leave you with up to 7 different partitions on your device. Fortunately, you don't really have to manage any of them as the ROM's do all the work once you've set it up once.
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I have found SD builds to score higher in flops and quadrant than NAND however which is strange. SD is easier to copy to device, other than that im sure all custom roms have their issues. including screen light on lag.
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This is due to a slower write speed of NAND storage versus SD storage. But, because the read speed of NAND storage is higher you still get an overall feel of greater responsiveness and speed even though the scores are lower. NAND ROM's are easier to backup and manage via the CWM aspect.
I mean, if they are equally as stable, why isn't every developer doing RAM versions to get the most possible speed?
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Possible problem may be higher amount of RAM needed. Especially sense builds would need a lot of RAM.
I have to disagree with a lot of what the post above mine said... The main difference between NAND and SD builds is with NAND builds you can use clockwork recovery, remove and replace your SD card while booted in android, and maybe a few other small improvement in stability and performance, but nothing too noticeable. Speed and battery life are about the same. You might get a little better battery life on standby with NAND. I generally got 3-5ma drain on standby with NAND, while I get 4-6ma on standby with SD. Speed and performance are pretty much the same because when you're running something with either type of build, it does it from RAM with either type of build. When an app or a process is running, it goes into ram, regardless of where the info was stored. NAND and SD are just the 2 options of where the data is stored when it's not being used by ram. Actually, the NAND in the HD2 can be slower than the NAND in good quality SD cards... but the random access speed is good in the HD2 NAND. But with a high quality SD card, you can get just as good random access speed with SD. That is what makes the performance difference with different SD cards... when the OS is trying to access small amounts of data or write small amounts of data, different SD cards will take different amounts of time to access... and the class rating of the card has nothing to do with that... in fact, class 2 cards tend to have better random access times than class 6 or 10.
But anyways, if you have a good SD card, performance and battery life are about the same... depending on the build of course. Desire HD builds tend to run a little better on NAND... but some recent SD DesireHD builds are good, too. AOSP and CM builds run pretty much the same off of SD and NAND as far as I can tell.
RAM builds work by loading more of the OS files into RAM at startup so that the random access speed of them is improved greatly, since RAM is the fastest memory and where any data is loaded to run anyways... it cuts down on the need to access the SD card for as many small system files, which improves performance and battery life in theory. The RAM is used anyways, so it doesn't use any more power keeping extra data in RAM, and since the SD card isn't accessed as much, it saves power there. But SD doesn't use much power anyways, so it's not really a noticeable power reduction. Also, RAM builds are still pretty experimental, and can have problems with data corruption... if any changes made to the os are not recorded to the SD, then if you lose power suddenly, there can be problems. Also, keeping all those system files in RAM causes you tohave less RAM available to run other apps and such... thats why there's no RAM builds for DesireHD builds, because there's not enough RAM. Personally, I never noticed too much of an increase in RAM builds performance compared to other AOSP SD builds like JDMS. Also, I'm not sure why, but I don't think RAM builds worked very good with NAND. But in theory, the system files in RAM is a good idea, especially for SD cards so it takes some stress off the SD cards. When running a build off SD, your accessing the SD to read and write system files while also accessing it as normal to run your apps or play your music or other data you have on SD. Keeping system files in RAM cuts down on the work the SD needs to do in the same way installing android to NAND does... then the SD is just used to access your media files or apps or data.
So in the end, it all depends on what you want from your phone... if you are not going to use winmo or wp7, and only use android, you might as well put android on nand, even if the improvement isn't that noticeable, because you can then use clockwork for easy updating or flashing roms, and you can change out your sd card, and there may be other small improvements. But if you still use winmo or wp7, then you have to decide if it's worth losing the ability to run more than one OS to give your android the added functionality of clockwork and other improvements. I use android on NAND for a month or so, but I didn't like how it turned my phone into just another android phone... it couldn't do anything that you couldn't do with a desire or evo or other android phone. But with the ability to run winmo or wp7 also, it's the only phone that can do it this well. When wp7 was released for the HD2, it was perfect for me because I wanted to try that OS out, and now I love that OS almost as much as android... I would have a hard time picking between the 2... luckily I don't have to. No other phone can run both of those OS's, either... I feel like I'm really making use of my HD2. If I just wanted android, I would've bought a native android phone from the beginning. But the great thing about the HD2 is no matter what OS you want, the HD2 can do it. People who want just android can make their HD2s almost like a native android phone now that it has clockwork recovery support. People who want 2 OS's can do that too. Android runs great from both SD and NAND... so use what works for you.
the battery life in android roms, is better than original windows mobile?
speed battery and efficiency are the main reasons
Yes it has a beter battery life (imo)
Ram is faster memory wich will make everything very fast, but you have to fuzz with Windows Mobile (?) to get there and that is what people dont like, the I/O on RAM is very fast, thats nice and makes quadrant scores very high
Class 10 card is good for SD versions, but imo that is very outdated, NAND is the way to go, like real Android devices loaded from the phone memory, not ram or sd, wich gives a beter battery life and fast speed (almost like stock) .. and also important , no fuzz with Windows Mobile.
And rest of the data wich isnt on your phone mem can be get of your SD card with a NAND version, cause the phone mem doesnt have rly that much space left after u installed Android on it (enough for enough apps though), class 10 mostly means a faster speed, so it will benefit you in some way
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I have to disagree with a lot of what the post above mine said...
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No offense at all, but I really tried to read your massive wall of text but I got lost after the first sentence.
I beleive that the custom android roms do last longer than original winmo. I love this 2.3.2 rom on my HD2. 2.3.2 on my gf's mytouch 4g last about 18 hours on moderate call/text/ use with overclocked on 1.3
Azerox said:
speed battery and efficiency are the main reasons
Yes it has a beter battery life (imo)
Ram is faster memory wich will make everything very fast, but you have to fuzz with Windows Mobile (?) to get there and that is what people dont like, the I/O on RAM is very fast, thats nice and makes quadrant scores very high
Class 10 card is good for SD versions, but imo that is very outdated, NAND is the way to go, like real Android devices loaded from the phone memory, not ram or sd, wich gives a beter battery life and fast speed (almost like stock) .. and also important , no fuzz with Windows Mobile.
And rest of the data wich isnt on your phone mem can be get of your SD card with a NAND version, cause the phone mem doesnt have rly that much space left after u installed Android on it (enough for enough apps though), class 10 mostly means a faster speed, so it will benefit you in some way
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for ex in win mobile, using the hd2 moderatly, how long the battery survive? and in android?
Wow! Lots of great info here!
I have been playing back and forth with different OS's and builds and SD builds and NAND builds etc. My phone is probably screaming at me to give it a break
As per responsiveness, the NAND builds (non-sense) seem to be a little snappier than the SD ones for me. The battery life seems about the same. Haven't had a problem with NAND space as I bought a US HD2 with 1 gig of ROM space, which is plenty for me. I haven't actually delved into the WM7 yet, but after reading this, I think I might give it a whirl and see what happens.
The biggest difference for me between the Android Nand/SD builds was the initial loading times. Which makes not that much of a difference because I tend not to turn off my phone anyhow.
The 2nd biggest difference is the wake from standby. On almost all the SD builds I tried, I would hit the hangup button, and the screen would come on in like 1/3-1/2 a second. If I accidentally hit it twice, I would have to wait 3-4 seconds for it to work properly again.... more presses seemed to do nothing. On a NAND build, it seems like the screen comes on instantly, and does not have the repress issue. But, then again, this is not a big issue for me at all.
The fastest build, by far, that I have tried so far is the Hyperdroid v5 build. It really does respond faster than almost anything I have put on the phone.
Thanks for all the answers people! It really helped to fill in the gaps in my admittedly shaky knowledge!
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No offense at all, but I really tried to read your massive wall of text but I got lost after the first sentence.
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Yeah, sorry about that... I tend to try to fit too much info into a post all at once and I sometimes don't organize it well. I'll also ramble on sometimes to get everything out I'm trying to say and it ends up making the reader miss a lot of the important parts.
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Yeah, sorry about that... I tend to try to fit too much info into a post all at once and I sometimes don't organize it well. I'll also ramble on sometimes to get everything out I'm trying to say and it ends up making the reader miss a lot of the important parts.
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i understood it quite well..i think u have alot of valid points.. There arent big differences between sd/ram/nand...its a matter of choice imo..
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if its on sd card it will still load into android after turning off everytime right? i dont want to see windows anymore at all
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I have to disagree with a lot of what the post above mine said... The main difference between NAND and SD builds is with NAND builds you can use clockwork recovery, remove and replace your SD card while booted in android, and maybe a few other small improvement in stability and performance, but nothing too noticeable. Speed and battery life are about the same.....
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Thank you for your post it has the best thought out points for and against, and greatly helped me in deciding which build to go for.
What is the best NativeSD android rom I can use for games ? Currently I'm with Dorimanx high end rom, android 2.3.7 but performance is not good. NFS Most wanted lags badly.
There is no "best rom". And personally I didn't see any difference between NativeSD and NAND. So basically, use any HWA enabled ROM and you should be good to go.
Any ICS or JB rom because of hardware acceleration.
I recommend tytung's cm9 rom, you will gain much in gaming performance, but don't expect any miracles in really demanding games such as new NFS.
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Any ICS or JB rom because of hardware acceleration.
I recommend tytung's cm9 rom, you will gain much in gaming performance, but don't expect any miracles in really demanding games such as new NFS.
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Is this the correct rom you were referring to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681906 ? I installed the rom but overall performance - swyping through menus, launching apps and etc. seems slower than dormanx gingerbread. Is this common with ICS roms ? I still haven't tried games.
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Is this the correct rom you were referring to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681906 ? I installed the rom but overall performance - swyping through menus, launching apps and etc. seems slower than dormanx gingerbread. Is this common with ICS roms ? I still haven't tried games.
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He means this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434860
EmZvr said:
Is this the correct rom you were referring to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681906 ? I installed the rom but overall performance - swyping through menus, launching apps and etc. seems slower than dormanx gingerbread. Is this common with ICS roms ? I still haven't tried games.
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Marvlesz above me has pointed you to the right direction.
As for the ROM you installed, i don't know, never tried it. You could try both of them to see which one fits you better.
Overall performance between GB and ICS should be pretty close, maybe a bit better on GB builds because it's less resource hungry, but on ICS you get some nice stuff like much better gaming performance, smoother web browsing + more.
Installed it. NFS Most Wanted works full speed now or at least a lot better than gingerbread. But again overall performance is not so good. More waiting for menus to show. Not so fluid. Dormanx rom is more fluid and faster with immediate loadings of every app. isn't it there a similar rom to dorimanx with hwa
There is no HWA on Gingerbread, we are very sorry for your disappointment. However, you may like to have a look at our selection of new devices, which have the fluidity of Gingerbread AND the performance of ICS/Jb.
^That's a joke.
Oh well, no games for me then I'm sure I wouldn't play them anyway but I like everything to work properly on my phone. I reverted back to dorimanx rom, thanks for the advices.
I will look at your selection of new devices probably when Ubuntu for phones is out :
Yeah, I personally also find ICS and above slower for everyday use than GB but I just love web browsing with HWA and the Holo UI of JB (not to mention Google Now) so I don't think I'm going to go back to GB any time soon.
Hi. I know that it is a noob question, but I am wondering why JB builds are so laggy. They should be smooth. I don't mean performance, because that one is great, but overall interface is "heavy" and laggy. Eg. statusbar line (this one we slide up and down), switching windows etc. Scrolling is great so why these stuff aren't so? And MIUI Jellybean: I know MIUI as the smoothiest roms, but JB edition is a nightmare. I understand that these are early builds, but not so early :/
Did you tried the NativeSD releases or the NAND ones? Which class does your SD Card have?
I've tried both of them. My SDs are 4class and 2class, which 2class (about 18MB/s read in Low Level Benchmark in Flash Memory Toolkit, and about 1.5ms access time) is better than 4class, I think 4c is just dead. And transffers and I/O is perfect, but animations are sharp, like the GPU was weak, but it shouldn't be SO weak...
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Did you tried the NativeSD releases or the NAND ones? Which class does your SD Card have?
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I agree with him, and it's not a matter of NativeSD or NAND. Jelly Bean just doesn't feel as smooth as Ice Cream Sandwich, even though it has hardware acceleration. That's why I'm sticking to ICS atm.
i really dont know what yall use your phones for but i use the roms in my sig
and they are smooth and fast for my everyday use
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i really dont know what yall use your phones for but i use the roms in my sig
and they are smooth and fast for my everyday use
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These ones are really smooth... Thanks!
Well admittedly I only have experience with one JB ROM on my HD2 (the one in my signature), doesn't feel laggy at all to me, in fact it's pretty zippy, and consistently so. I have OS on NAND and programs on ext (class 10 SD card). It's a rather mature version. I read that MIUI is also no slouch. Could you possibly have had a faulty install?
I have the some problem with the lag. I use kovjanos' PA ROM with the pure PA framework. Everything is smooth and fast except for the window and framework animations. When I open an app the opening animation lags and if I pull down the notification drawer, it seems like the drag bar "stays behind my finger" so it follows my movement really slow. The usual display-off animation doesn't work either. I tried different 4.1.2 ROMs and had the same thing everywhere, no matter NAND, NativeSD, or DataOnExt.
I tried the evervolv 4.2.1 as well and it works perfectly, all animations are smooth without any lag.
I think it might depend on whether the ROM is compiled from source and with which device tree, or whether it is ported from an other device and which ROM was used as a base.
I'm kinda tired of flashing lots of roms to see which one is better. So i did some research and, although i really liked ICS, i've seen someone saying that GB is alot better, since ICS was built for higher-end devices. The matter is that those were old posts, things sure have changed during these years.
The question now is, based on performance, which is better for our HD2? GB or ICS?
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I'm kinda tired of flashing lots of roms to see which one is better. So i did some research and, although i really liked ICS, i've seen someone saying that GB is alot better, since ICS was built for higher-end devices. The matter is that those were old posts, things sure have changed during these years.
The question now is, based on performance, which is better for our HD2? GB or ICS?
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GB is more stable and faster for day-to-day usage, BUT has fewer features, an uglier UI and no HWA (making gaming and web browsing comparatively awful).
ICS has HWA so is best for gaming and web browsing and is still reasonably stable and smooth. I personally would go for ICS because it's just nicer to use, but it's all a matter of opinion and nobody can really tell you which to choose.
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GB is more stable and faster for day-to-day usage, BUT has fewer features, an uglier UI and no HWA (making gaming and web browsing comparatively awful).
ICS has HWA so is best for gaming and web browsing and is still reasonably stable and smooth. I personally would go for ICS because it's just nicer to use, but it's all a matter of opinion and nobody can really tell you which to choose.
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That's what i was missing, HWA. I didn't know GB had no HWA. That really helped, thanks a bunch
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I'm kinda tired of flashing lots of roms to see which one is better. So i did some research and, although i really liked ICS, i've seen someone saying that GB is alot better, since ICS was built for higher-end devices. The matter is that those were old posts, things sure have changed during these years.
The question now is, based on performance, which is better for our HD2? GB or ICS?
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Ive used both ICS and GB. Let me tell you, GB seems to be alot better than ICS for day to day use. The 2D games run fine on GB. And the web browsing, although not BLAZING fast like on ICS, is really tolerable. GB on my specific phone seems alot stable than ICS, faster too. Ive been using Typhoon's rom for the past 2 months and its working GREAT so far.
But if the HD2 is your secondary phone, no need to go for GB. Just use ICS
Cheers
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Ive used both ICS and GB. Let me tell you, GB seems to be alot better than ICS for day to day use. The 2D games run fine on GB. And the web browsing, although not BLAZING fast like on ICS, is really tolerable. GB on my specific phone seems alot stable than ICS, faster too. Ive been using Typhoon's rom for the past 2 months and its working GREAT so far.
But if the HD2 is your secondary phone, no need to go for GB. Just use ICS
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I can confirm that. Above all, the data connection is a very little bit more stable under GB. With some effort, but definitely worth to try DataOnExt variants under ICS or JB! If you have time to do that, you can rise your system partition to about 400MBs and have enough space and power to switch to your HD2 as primary phone!
I'm running tytungs NexusHD2-JellyBean-CM10 V1.4a and it works like a charm!
Greetings
I have been using both ICS and GB and to my experience I think GB feels a lot faster and more stable.
Loading a couple of hundreds of SMS messages in ICS for the first time takes ages (while in GB is considerably faster), frequent freezes forcing to take battery out, etc.
On the other hand ICS has more features (HWA, Sound Profiles, Lock Screen Widgets, Quick Settings in Notification, better screen resolution) and I think has better in-call quality than GB.
A word of warning though. The stability and responsiveness depend on the chosen ROM. I personally prefer tytung's ROMS and I usually opt-out for NAND installations (although I have also tried NativeSD version of Jelly Bean with class 10 MicroSD card).
Hope I helped.
GB feels alot faster faster then ICS. and if you dont like the look of GB, try MIUI imo its the best combo for smoothness and stable as stock GB and it looks nice and stylish
Hi everyone, as a mod-addicted user i like to flash all kind of roms, even the strangest ones. recently i fuond that our Nexus S is going to die, cause of old hardware and new softwares require lot more RAM and GPUs. I'm currently using a 4.2.2 ROM, and i'm having a very good time, but don't you think that on old GB roms everything was more smooth and fast, with the best performances and apps were faster than now? I know that is because all was old, and NS was developed under that artictecture, but i have a question to you: why do we all want the newest rom, with the newest things that use a lot of battery/ram/gpu, instead of keeping GB roms that were a lot smoother and fast? GB roms are as secure as JB ones, and a lot of apps run well on both OS.
This post is not a critic, and i'm sorry for the mistakes, i'm not english.
its an old system, it looks outdated and browsing experience and overal smoothness is much worse than JB...simple as that. GB has better memory management yes, sometimes my phone struggles with lack of ram on JB, but its still worth over GB for the reasons i stated i think...
Well, i personally like CM7 more than CM10 because it feels to me much more customizable than CM10. The themes look way better (especially Cyanbread) and it is also faster. To conclude, i prefer GB over JB.
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Well, i personally like CM7 more than CM10 because it feels to me much more customizable than CM10. The themes look way better (especially Cyanbread) and it is also faster. To conclude, i prefer GB over JB.
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Agreed CM7 was a true upgrade over stock...the ustom lookscreens are just a example but now it seames that CM only has powerwidgets over the stock and a fiew tweaks nothing else, it's to bad really but we kinda have to live with it, thank God we have the best and most balanced single core in the Android world!
Just try a good 4.2.2 rom and you will see the difference...try slim bean build 6 or jellyshot latest build
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Just try a good 4.2.2 rom and you will see the difference...try slim bean build 6 or jellyshot latest build
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they are really good, but for me the ui sounds and incall sounds are always to low in 4.2 roms, they are considerably louder in roms up to and including 4.1.2, for me CM10, or hellyBean 4.1, or bb6 are enough, i miss the quick toogles and thats abou it, wel maybe the lookscren bold writing
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its an old system, it looks outdated and browsing experience and overal smoothness is much worse than JB...simple as that. GB has better memory management yes, sometimes my phone struggles with lack of ram on JB, but its still worth over GB for the reasons i stated i think...
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It can be old as you want, but a lot of smartphones are now using it. I prefer JB for the examples you gave, but we are talking about android: you can customize all you want, and gb can become JB with some graphical hacks
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It can be old as you want, but a lot of smartphones are now using it. I prefer JB for the examples you gave, but we are talking about android: you can customize all you want, and gb can become JB with some graphical hacks
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its not the same...there are some really good mods but involve changing systemui and other stuff and sometimes create more problems. Anyway, there are no mods for gb to have JB smoothness. A good solution for JB when it comes to lack of RAM is to use a high bigmem kernel and greenify. Its awesome, does not let apps that you dont need start up unless you manually start them(leaving free ram to apps that matter).
I really see no advantadge in going back to GB imo...You just have to know how to tweak JB to get the most of it.
yeah a lot of devices are using GB, but i bet most of them are not by choice of the user
2.3.x Roms still very good, and loved many of them. When moving to JB there are lots of under the hood changes and many optimizations which make things better. As well as many media improvements. Which allows better apps and better user experience, once I learned all the new features of 4.1 I just couldn't go back to 2.3. I have found that 4.2 Roms preform better than their 4.1 predecessors on my i9020T as well as the many UI improvements. Yes memory is an issue, but I turn on a 1GB swapfile when I'm using memory intensive apps then turn it off when done so I don't wear out storage and it helps greatly.
In the last days of using my Nexus S i got rid of the sudden reboots which i had with all custom roms more or less and with the stock ICS and JB roms too. I think my Nexus was a weak build who barely matched the quality requirements. So i looked out for some older roms and found Oxygen 2.3.7 with great reputation.
Flashed that and: wow. I had a amazingly fast and stable cellphone again. No comparison to any ICS or JB build. I will never go back to a newer rom, as long as stability and quickness are asked.
My regards
Personally, i find 4.1.2 roms very smoother than 4.2.x, and i tried maybe a lot of them. Except some widgets and UI improvements (little), i will continue using 4.1.2 roms with better battery life and the smoothest velocity