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[Q] Is our device able to run Temple Run smoothly?

Hey,
maybe it is a lil bit silly question but I have to ask:
Is the I9000 able to run Temple Run real smooth? It runs stuttery on my Device with Semaphore + Slim ICS on default Settings but even though on OC Settings too.
The thing is: On my SO's iPhone 3GS it runs without any problems? So is it maybe a ROM Issue or is the I9000 Gaming Perfomance really worse the 3gs performance?
Thanks
rest0ck

Mine runs perfectly with CM9 nightly and with semaphore... Try changing governor to like...smartass?
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Runs fine for me
Runs fine here as well, I'm on SlimICS 4.2 with stock kernel no overclocking.
Try the latest version from the devs site http://www.slimroms.com/

I tried everything. I was on Slim ICS 4.2 with Semaphore 1.2.5 - tried every governor (Performance, Smartass) but still stuttery.
Now I installed another Rom which is CM9 based and ..still stuttery (RemiICS). I don't have installed that much + synchonisation is for most addons disabled. WiFi enabled. Any other app is closed. Sometimes it tuns smooth, sometimes it's not playable, sometimes there a lil bit of lag. I even tried HugeRam enabled :/

http://db.tt/ajksT8Fh
Just wait a few days
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Hmmm... Try to Google for V6 supercharger... It might work ;D
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Runs fine on ICS333, and it ran fine on elite,with semaphore. Both are very minimalistic aosp roms, I'm not going to say that they definitely perform better that slim or remics, but worth a try?
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Even you can't do this on FakPhone4Stupid

burakgon said:
Even you can't do this on FakPhone4Stupid
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awesome :good:

what rom you are using? im using cm7.2 and it was very laggy.
what kernel should i use? is there a kernel for cm7.2?

You can't compare the gaming performance with the iPhone, because iOS is optimised for apps and games. Apps and games is like the main purpose of iOS.
On android the focus is more for multitasking, media handling etc so the optimisation for games is not as good, even if we have better hardware.
It's just like how even a dual core phone cannot play a NDS game through emulator as smooth as a NDS itself, even though the processor in the NDS is about 100-300MHz.
Hmm, try using a task manager to get rid of the background processes, get rid of bloatware in your phone etc. Hope it helps!
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Slim and semaphore, no o/c runs smooth as silk

on 2.3 it laggs like hell
but on ics it is super smooth:good:

Mazzstrikers said:
You can't compare the gaming performance with the iPhone, because iOS is optimised for apps and games. Apps and games is like the main purpose of iOS.
On android the focus is more for multitasking, media handling etc so the optimisation for games is not as good, even if we have better hardware.
It's just like how even a dual core phone cannot play a NDS game through emulator as smooth as a NDS itself, even though the processor in the NDS is about 100-300MHz.
Hmm, try using a task manager to get rid of the background processes, get rid of bloatware in your phone etc. Hope it helps!
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This is something I never really thought about. It does make sense
But .. on the other hand. When Multitasking was possible in iOS (or isnt it really possible it just pauses other apps?) it doesnt affect the game performance?

rest0ck said:
This is something I never really thought about. It does make sense
But .. on the other hand. When Multitasking was possible in iOS (or isnt it really possible it just pauses other apps?) it doesnt affect the game performance?
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It won't affect game performance in iOS because, iOS does not perform true multitasking. Android does!
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That's true.They say ios has "multitasking"
BUT .This feature is like,when you are browsing on the web,your navigation app is"calculating route".
You see? ios pauses apps which are not set primary by user...
Well if guys now one more thing.From news.
In Finland,a boy was nearly getting killed by iphone!yes.Phone exploaded in his pocket...He was so lucky damn!
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WorkED fine here as well CM9 nightly with stock kernel....as about iphone, android game isnt nearly as optimised as iphone one
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YES
just use CM9 OR AOKP man and it will work smoothly..

on DarkyROM v11 black edition with Semaphore ICS 1.2.5 runs great!!!!!

But why isn't it possible to set a "high priority" or something else so I can focus on the game I play and my browser in the background just ..pauses? Won't that be great? ;/
Btw I tried CM9 but had a few problems (wasnt able to download apps after I set dpi back to 240 and got bootloop after installing Semaphore (correct version)) so I did a complete new installation of Slim ICS with everything wiped, even system.
At the time it is pretty smooth but sometimes but I hadn't the time to really test it (2 games so far) - btw I'm currently using midnight ICS Kernel with Ondemand governor. Was a midnight-gb fan and even thought it is outdated and discontinued I still think it's a really nice kernel. But in case I get rnd reboots or performance issues I'll give Semaphore another try.

Nexus 7 Performance?

Hello,
I have bought my nexus 7 3G 32GB about one month ago.And tried to play many games,all games ran pretty smooth without lagg except these:
nova3,nfs:mw...Also I didnt get any special effects like fire on buildings in nova,however asphalt 7 ran very smooth no lagg at all,altough many people said that it's laggy.So how could i optimize my gaming performance?I've tried trinity kernel and m-kernel.OCed at 1.7ghz and 700mhz didnt helped in games... All what i felt performance increase was only in benchmark scores.Games ran almost same as before flashing kernels...What kernel should i use only for best performance ,i dont really care about battery.And what other optimizations should i do to get all these effects in games and reduce lag?

Hi man i played those games on my nexus but havent ur problem ...r u sure it is for ur kernel?

Yes.I'm sure.By the way you mean that you don't get any lagg on nova 3 or nfs mw?

I'm a Trinity fan, but on my 7 I actually found faux kernel to provide me the smoothest gameplay.I didn't start with much lag in the first place though, biggest thing for me is on dead trigger with graphics set to ultra high there would be a stutter at times when blasting zombies with my shotgun. I could just turn graphics down, but then the zombies don't get thrown backwards which looks cool.
Faux smoothed it out a bit, though I've never had a kernel make a significant difference on any device. NFS MW plays smooth for me, as it did with the stock kernel. Haven't downloaded nova 3 on the 7 yet.
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trinty is not that good, I use franco and games play withoud lag. When I played GTA Vice City with trinty kernel, my nexus got very hot and than shutted down. With franco it just stays pretty cool.
and however, try to play that same game with some different kernels (m-kernel or faux), or put the govenor to performance and than try it again (but that really sucks battery). it is strange, those games play smoothly on my nexus 7 with franco.

How about nova 3?Is it smooth on franco or faux kernels?

Nova 3 was poor for me too. Played better on my dual core EVO 3d....checkout this post for more discussion on it...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2085452
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BUMP.

Best rom for gaming?

I've been trying different Roms lately, such as cm10.1, slim bean, liquid smooth. They were all fine except liquid smooth. But I was just wondering in general, is there a ROM that enhances or makes gaming better on?

No. Your question is silly, it's like asking. What is the best operating system for gaming? Is it windows 7? Mac? Or Linux?
... What you're asking for are kernels, not roms. And there is no best rom or kernel. Just look around and try for yourself
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As zephix mentioned, you should be looking at kernels, not roms, to improve gaming performance. You would want to look into kernels that overclock the GPU by default, or give you the option to overclock it yourself. Compare the different kernels out there, matrix, faux, motley,harsh, etc and see which one benefits the GPU the most.
For example the Matrix kernel has a GPU overclocked version that boost the gpu up to 487mhz. This should help improve game performance but will also negatively affect battery life when gaming.

Trinity kernel, its the BOOM

Trinity kernel forces gpu over clocking all the time though, with no option to set it back.

You can try the RasBeanJelly ROM + Trinity kernel combo. RasBean has new bionic patches while Trinity bumps up GPU. I'm running that right now. There was a nice jump in my Antutu score (20,000+), but we all know benchmark numbers mean nothing.
Like zephiK and Raider said: it's up to you to try out a bunch of different ROMs/kernels and see which ones you like best. Since I'm answering, I say check out RasBeanJelly and Trinity.

Faux' kernel gives me quite good 3D performance.
franco r53 has quite bad 3D performance for me. r61 seems to be really good, but somehow uses more battery while gaming, at least for me.

Every ROM is okay, I play games with vsync off and 128mhz CPU and they run good. Dead trigger, most wanted, temple run 2, and riptide are smooth. Games that aren't tolerable are basically not optimized and most likely lag on every device it can run on. Long story short, every ROM is apt, the GPU is a beast and isn't necessary for things out now. And HD YouTube even works in this mode.
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All roms have bionic. Rom won't do anything to your game. Kernel probably won't either. Games on the stock nexus 4 run great. If it weren't for washed out colors I'd say kernels are a waste of time. But anyone saying that stock android on the nexus 4 is slow or unfit for gaming is a liar. Just stop worrying about this performance bs, enjoy your nexus.

Having your cake and eating it too

Most of life is a choice between one or the other but with the Nexus 7 along with Root, Custom Recovery, cm10.2 unofficial, Faux Clock Kernel Control App and Jassy Release 5 Kernel it might just be possible to have both. Jassy has managed to put together a kernel that combines a 1.9 GHz over clock and a 487 MHz GPU over clock. With a global undervolt of -24 MV I managed to pull off stunning benchmarks, smooth lag free performance and incredible battery time. Just under 13 hours battery time in fact. I did this with a YouTube kung fu movie fest for about 12 and a half hours and a half hour of benchmarks and downloading a few apps. Remember if you game you can not expect this kind of battery performance but it does do great at that as well. I've attached some screenshots of my settings so you can reproduce these results if you would like.
Remember when you Root, ROM and Over clock you do it at your own risk and please thank the fine Developers who gave their time to make this kind of fantasy possible. I in no way had a hand in developing this software, I just took the time to do many benches and battery tests on many Roms and kernels then undervolted a bit.
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Benchmarks
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Nice, will have to check this out
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So to replicate your results, we need to flash cyagen, and jassy release 5, and then adjust the settings to replicate yours, or does jassy's release already have some of those settings in it?
What other apps did you download?
Getting longer battery life and a faster tablet is quite attractive!
EDIT I just installed jassy r5, and my quadrant is only 5679.. is something wrong, or do I need to also do the tweaks you listed here first?
EDIT 2: I've set faux to the same setting now, but am still using cleanroom1.3, and the quadrant results are 6787

Gareee said:
So to replicate your results, we need to flash cyagen, and jassy release 5, and then adjust the settings to replicate yours, or does jassy's release already have some of those settings in it?
What other apps did you download?
Getting longer battery life and a faster tablet is quite attractive!
EDIT I just installed jassy r5, and my quadrant is only 5679.. is something wrong, or do I need to also do the tweaks you listed here first?
EDIT 2: I've set faux to the same setting now, but am still using cleanroom1.3, and the quadrant results are 6787
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Sorry I never saw your posts. Never looked at the thread again. To replicate my results you would have to download cm10.2 and Jassy release 5 and faux kernel control app paid version and set exactly like in the screen shots. I have since made a few more refinements but nothing you couldn't play with yourself. Make sure you enable mpdecision. Make every screen look like mine.

Fiops as I/o and 62c 82c as intellithermal is the only settings changed. Bout 7 hours of YouTube and 5 hours of heavy browsing. Couldn't ask for better battery life. NO Gaming.
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Yep, I did duplicate them, but couldn't get quadrant scores anywhere near yours. (they were better though.. it might be a cleanroom issue).
I upgraded to Jassy rev 6, ran into issues, and then just reflashed the stock kernel.
I was hoping we'd see Jassy rev 6 lockup issues fixed, but its been a week now. I'm also read of a few misc cm issues, and I'e been waiting for them to clear up as well. Cleanrom isn't having any issues at all, so I've stuck with it for now.

conan1600 said:
Fiops as I/o and 62c 82c as intellithermal is the only settings changed. Bout 7 hours of YouTube and 5 hours of heavy browsing. Couldn't ask for better battery life. NO Gaming.
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How's stability with your set-up?

Gareee said:
Yep, I did duplicate them, but couldn't get quadrant scores anywhere near yours. (they were better though.. it might be a cleanroom issue).
I upgraded to Jassy rev 6, ran into issues, and then just reflashed the stock kernel.
I was hoping we'd see Jassy rev 6 lockup issues fixed, but its been a week now. I'm also read of a few misc cm issues, and I'e been waiting for them to clear up as well. Cleanrom isn't having any issues at all, so I've stuck with it for now.
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Cleanrom will not bench as high. Its a stock based ROM. Truth is though once your this high your not gonna see a whole lot of improvement in daily performance unless you go looking for it. Cleanrom is one of the best Roms I've ever used and there is absolutely nothing wrong with sticking with it. I go back and forth between the 2 myself. As themes and tweaks come out for nexus 7 2013 you'll find cleanrom will get even better than it is now also. Wish someone would do a tablet ui lol.

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How's stability with your set-up?
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I haven't had a single random reboot. Chrome works real well as long as you can change it from beta in lower left of xda page. I haven't overheated but I gotta tell you I'm no hardcore android gamer. Some angry birds from time to time or subway surfers lol. I have probably gamed for about an hour or so on these settings and not gone into a state of panic about temps though. Any longer than that or some other game and I couldn't say. in fact FOR me things are so smooth on this machine I had to order a new HP to tinker with lol. Seriously this is the best android machine I've owned. And buddy, I've had em all. I also use adaway so that may help with chrome as well.

Impressive scores man.
Yeah hesitant to jump to other roms myself at least at this time. Everything is so new finding a "good one" is hard to do at least yet. Though I've used CleanROM's on other devices I've had in the past and love them. Personally if CleanROM comes out with a 1.4 I might consider jumping into it.

Thanks for sharing! My only suggestion would be for you to recommend another kernel tuning app other than Faux's app. I'm just personally not a fan of someone who does nothing but kang, and even then still doesn't credit who he is kanging from. Too many hard working honest developers for me to support a faux developer (yes, pun intended. Maybe that's where the screen name came from?).
Just my $0.02.…
EDIT : For anyone questioning the integrity of my comment, just do some research and you'll see what I'm saying
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stanglifemike said:
Thanks for sharing! My only suggestion would be for you to recommend another kernel tuning app other than Faux's app. I'm just personally not a fan of someone who does nothing but kang, and even then still doesn't credit who he is kanging from. Too many hard working honest developers for me to support a faux developer (yes, pun intended. Maybe that's where the screen name came from?).
Just my $0.02.…
EDIT : For anyone questioning the integrity of my comment, just do some research and you'll see what I'm saying
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I have absolutely No interest in politics on my nexus 7 2013. if he did wrong, shame on him however I have tried each and every kernel control app on the market and reported my best results. I have yet to produce scores or battery life comparable even within 10% of fauxclock/Jassy R5 combo. I do not intend to do any research at all about whatever faux123 did or didn't do. I understand a personal grudge and respect your right to hold one. If your looking for something as close as you can get to his kernel control app try trickster. I didn't have a lot of success with it but you might find a combination that works close. If I were in the middle of whatever happened between faux123 and you or whoever I might have formulated an opinion. I'm not chiding you either. You brought an issue before me and I am simply stating I don't want involved as its in my humble opinion not my place or my fight, not to mention it appears it was already fought.
if I simply hated and didn't use a product based on someone else I don't know having a problem with that individual I wouldn't be able to buy anything, at all, anywhere, on earth, or in heaven, ever! If you tell me he harmed a baby and I see he was convicted of it in a trial of his peer's elected in a fair and balanced environment I will most certainly NOT have anything to do with him. But unproven or conflicting information, that may be due to personal interpretations is difficult for me to get involved in. Especially after the fact. And then there is the whole, if a man was punished for his crime do you continue to persecute him after he paid his dues thing.

Are there any deal breaking issues in CM? If not, switching does not bother me at all, and getting better all over performance is worth while.
I just don't want to spend more time tinkering with my tablet than actually using it.

What's your binning?

appreciate you sharing your jassy 5 set up with the fauxclock app. im on jassy 5 as well and have been running the setup that jassy posted but now im gonna try your set up. i just got one question about it: how is your sleep mode stand by time? i lose 1-2% in 8 hours

Gareee said:
Are there any deal breaking issues in CM? If not, switching does not bother me at all, and getting better all over performance is worth while.
I just don't want to spend more time tinkering with my tablet than actually using it.
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I personally would call the current cm build almost RC material. I have no problems with it at all.
My bin was 14/2 if I'm not mistaken.
I probably lose a bit less than that but can't say for certain as I constantly use it lmao. I do get exceptional screen on time really. There are some screen shots on previous page I think.

Cool. Might have to take the plunge. Do you have to wipe to install it? (I didn't have to wipe for cleanrom.)

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Cool. Might have to take the plunge. Do you have to wipe to install it? (I didn't have to wipe for cleanrom.)
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You have to wipe on a first install.

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You have to wipe on a first install.
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Ugh.

[Q] Disappointed by 4.3 Performance

Hey,
Just wondering if its only me, I've tried PA 4.3 JSS and JWR, really choppy and slow.
So i restored the JWR still continues super choppy, even simply going through the pages of the app drawer lags, Antutu gets me 14k results where previously on 4.2.2 i got 22k, on games like Real Racing 3 i notice much lower FPS than on 4.2.2,
I've tried with stock kernel and Franco, with small improvements with Franco but still barely unusable.
Is this situation shared with any of you using 4.3? Will it get any better?
Thanks.

Mottz said:
Hey,
Just wondering if its only me, I've tried PA 4.3 JSS and JWR, really choppy and slow.
So i restored the JWR still continues super choppy, even simply going through the pages of the app drawer lags, Antutu gets me 14k results where previously on 4.2.2 i got 22k, on games like Real Racing 3 i notice much lower FPS than on 4.2.2,
I've tried with stock kernel and Franco, with small improvements with Franco but still barely unusable.
Is this situation shared with any of you using 4.3? Will it get any better?
Thanks.
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I think you are the only one with this problem. I am on latest PA 3.96 and its super smooth.. Won't comment on games as I dont play much but performance,battery wise PA + franco's kernel rocks..
try clean wipe..(factory reset wipe all except internal )
Also it matters if you flash JWR kernel on a JSS rom you will face such issues,this might be a problem in your case. :good:

Its not the kernels mismatch, that I'm sure as I am aware many problems could be originated by that.
I notice the difference mostly in games since its one of the things I most use the phone for, although in the menus and general usage it still feels choppy and not smooth at all.
I have tried that, I have even restored the factory image and tried factory reset after that, all with no apparent result.
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Did you measure CPU clocks for some time too so you can see if it's something about the governor/etc?
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Did you measure CPU clocks for some time too so you can see if it's something about the governor/etc?
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Not sure how to do that but i tested Antutu and Real Racing 3 with Performance Governor @1.5Ghz and it still didn't cut it, i currently have the same Franco kernel settings i had on 4.2.2

Mottz said:
Hey,
Just wondering if its only me, I've tried PA 4.3 JSS and JWR, really choppy and slow.
So i restored the JWR still continues super choppy, even simply going through the pages of the app drawer lags, Antutu gets me 14k results where previously on 4.2.2 i got 22k, on games like Real Racing 3 i notice much lower FPS than on 4.2.2,
I've tried with stock kernel and Franco, with small improvements with Franco but still barely unusable.
Is this situation shared with any of you using 4.3? Will it get any better?
Thanks.
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I think something is wrong with your device, because I´m on AOSP build with Matrix kernel and I can reach easily 22k on Antutu with no tweaks, just installing ROM and kernel. About games, I have played some and I do´t have any lag or anything related.
As someone stated before, you should try to make a factory reset and try to install an AOSP version, because it has many commits and patches that JW doesn´t have.

Mottz said:
Not sure how to do that but i tested Antutu and Real Racing 3 with Performance Governor @1.5Ghz and it still didn't cut it, i currently have the same Franco kernel settings i had on 4.2.2
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By measure for some time I mean to use an app like CPU spy reborn ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mirko.csr ) so it'll record CPU shifts and clock times during a reboot session. It's good to see if the governor is behaving normally, but since you won't have a reference from before I don't know if it'll be very useful.
Well, good luck with your problem, I hope you get it solved quickly. I'm a new N4 owner myself (barely 2 months) and don't much yet about the device.
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I've noticed some games which do not run smoothly with 4.3, where they did with 4.2.2. I use unrooted stock, I don't benchmark because I prefer real-world usage.
I think the solution is to wait for app devs to update their software.
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I guess I'll try the aosp build,I've had it in the past but steered away from it due to the locks and also slow performance.
I'll try it and report back
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If you have a dedexed rom try jszaq patch from the benchmark thread. It will give roms without bionic/krait optimisations those tweaks and also it will give a huge dalvik/java improvement.
I score 21000 antutu and 8000 quadrant with it on deodexed stock jwr rom at stock speeds.