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i need a little help, i love roms but i dont love some of the layouts and what nots
but ive been strongly looking at miui and it looks really really nice but i wanted another opinion, what rom would you recommend?
and if youre using miui whats the cons? pros??
and if you can screen shot the way you txt? thatd be awesome =]
i went from liberty to stock gb for a list of small reasons
(not to say liberty isnt awesome)
I'm personally running CM7 and it kicks ass... just hold power button for screen shot option
sent from my CM7 powered Droid X
I'm currently on Liberty. Beats stock in my opinion, but I would like to check out CM7 one day.
I am currently running MIUI 1.9.23. I love it!!
CONS:
Camera a little slow - Re-flash older camera apk
PROS:
Fast
Tons of themes
Easy customization
Weekly updates
lancem71 said:
I am currently running MIUI 1.9.23. I love it!!
CONS:
Camera a little slow - Re-flash older camera apk
PROS:
Fast
Tons of themes
Easy customization
Weekly updates
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Isn't the camera limited to 8MP with no widescreen capability? That was a show stopper for me when I tried it a couple of months ago
I am currently running MIUI 1.9.16.1 and I just love it. I have also used Liberty and CM7. Both are great but I love the battery life, customizability and smoothness of MIUI.
I just installed Cyanogenmod last night and I love it. It's fast, seems stable, and has tons of customization options. I also liked Liberty, except for the pee yellow color (I'm sure there's a theme to change that), but I wasn't a fan of MIUI. It looked very polished, but it was like some weird iPhone wannabe, and wasn't as smooth or fast as Cyanogenmod.
Which version of CM7 are you using. I'm thinking of trying it out but I'm not sure which nightly to go with.
Sent from my DROIDX using XDA App
Battery is sub-par MIUI.
zeesh86 said:
I am currently running MIUI 1.9.16.1 and I just love it. I have also used Liberty and CM7. Both are great but I love the battery life, customizability and smoothness of MIUI.
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I'm running MIUI on my X and I get pretty bad battery life...
I'm on 1.9.9
Farbulus said:
I'm running MIUI on my X and I get pretty bad battery life...
I'm on 1.9.9
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Dunno, mine is pretty good. I also use Juice Defender which helps.
Liberty had decent battery life, but CM7 sucked when I was using it. May be they fixed it in the latest updates.
homer169 said:
Which version of CM7 are you using. I'm thinking of trying it out but I'm not sure which nightly to go with.
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The mod version is 7.1.0-RC0 and the build number is GRH78C.
I'm personally on Liberty 0.9 Gingerbread.
While it's great for a Beta ROM, it hasn't been updated in a LONG time, and there are still some outstanding bugs that are starting to get a little annoying. It turns out one of the Devs left, and the other was planning on working on a version of the ROM called Justice based on CM7. I'd use it any day over stock, but I'd love to see some work done on it.
It looks like the DX is reaching the end of it's development sadly, too bad it didn't have a run like the OG Droid.
Anyway, for those of you using CM7, is there anything that's still not working?
Last I read, things like GPS still weren't working, which in all honesty is completely unacceptable for me. My phone is my "every" device; MP3 Player, GPS, Phone, etc etc.
How's the battery life on CM7? It's not great on Liberty, but maybe my battery is getting a bit old.
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Anyway, for those of you using CM7, is there anything that's still not working?
Last I read, things like GPS still weren't working, which in all honesty is completely unacceptable for me. My phone is my "every" device; MP3 Player, GPS, Phone, etc etc.
How's the battery life on CM7? It's not great on Liberty, but maybe my battery is getting a bit old.
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I'm running CM7 on my X and my GPS works good, and my battery life is much better than GB was... charges almost twice as fast as that blurry rom I was on as well.
sent from my CM7 powered Droid X
I was a firm believer in Liberty back in the day.
Then Kejar left and the team went to hell.
Liberty 0.9 is still a DECENT rom though.
Try it out if you're used to the stock experience.
But if you're feeling brave...
I was a FIRM believer in CM7 for a long while.
PROS
-Adjust screen brightness by swiping the status bar
-Take a screenshot by holding power until the option comes up
-Change songs by holding the volume button up/down while the screen is off
-Pause music with camera button while screen is off
-Tmobile themes (You don't need to flash ANYTHING to theme CM7. You simply open the "Themes" Application and swap out a new one [found in the market or online] and it themes your phone without even rebooting!) *Rebooting is recommended for most themes...but you can get the feel of a theme in 5 seconds rather than flashing it...rebooting...checking...deciding you don't like it...flash stock back...yada yada yada*
-FAST I get scores of 3000 in Quadrant running at 1.2ghz.
-%1 battery icon in the status bar (on official froyo kernel only. the "unofficial" gingerbread builds still haven't gotten this working yet).
-Yes, GPS works fine. Everything works fine.
-Lockscreen can have a separate wallpaper.
-Control bar is built into the status bar (change brightness/turn on wifi/etc)
CONS
-No HDMI (I didn't use it anyway)
-No 720p video recording
*These are both RUMORED to be being worked on. Who knows.
I recently, however switched to the newest MIUI build.
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?6392-ROM-MIUI.us-1.9.23
I recommend it HIGHLY.
PROS
-Fast, once again. Same speeds as CM7, it seems.
-THEMES. Woah buddy. Themes are a HUGE part of MIUI.
--You download themes from within a theme application...and they once again, theme your phone without the need of a reboot. The best part is, you can swap out pieces of themes for other pieces if you don't like the whole theme.
I'm rocking a theme on the status bar by one dev...a lockscreen by another...a sms by another...yada yada yada.
-Lockscreens...OMG lockscreens. The lockscreens are AWESOME. There are literally HUNDREDS of options for lockscreens. They are changed via the "themes" application...but woah buddy. These aren't just themes.
There are ICS-like lockscreens. Lockscreens that you can drag in like 10 directions depending on what application you want to open.
http://forums.miui.us/showthread.ph...s-lockscreen-theme-collection-new-theme-26-08 there are some good examples in there.
-A little-known trick...MIUI takes screenshots...faster than CM7 =]
--Hold menu+volume down = instant screenshot.
--*Holding menu+volume up = turns your brightness all the way up!
-Fastboot option (rather than a full reboot) is in the power-menu along with bootloader, full reboot, stock recovery, cwm recovery.
-Control-widget's are, again, built into the status bar (change brightness/turn on wifi/etc).
-Blacklist people from calling/texting you by simply adding them to a list available in the contacts app.
-Reply with text message to ignored calls.
-Blur-like dialer in that you can search via t9 for a contact...rather than memorizing the number or opening the contacts list.
-Lockscreens, again, can have custom wallpapers.
-If you're on your phone, a message pops up at the top of the screen when you get an sms that allows you to reply directly without closing the app you're in.
CONS
-No HDMI
-No 720p
*The 720p IS being worked on...haven't heard about the hdmi.
Thanks. I think I'll check out MIUI this weekend.
How good are they about updates?
Jubakuba said:
I was a firm believer in Liberty back in the day.
Then Kejar left and the team went to hell.
Liberty 0.9 is still a DECENT rom though.
Try it out if you're used to the stock experience.
But if you're feeling brave...
I was a FIRM believer in CM7 for a long while.
PROS
-Adjust screen brightness by swiping the status bar
-Take a screenshot by holding power until the option comes up
-Change songs by holding the volume button up/down while the screen is off
-Pause music with camera button while screen is off
-Tmobile themes (You don't need to flash ANYTHING to theme CM7. You simply open the "Themes" Application and swap out a new one [found in the market or online] and it themes your phone without even rebooting!) *Rebooting is recommended for most themes...but you can get the feel of a theme in 5 seconds rather than flashing it...rebooting...checking...deciding you don't like it...flash stock back...yada yada yada*
-FAST I get scores of 3000 in Quadrant running at 1.2ghz.
-%1 battery icon in the status bar (on official froyo kernel only. the "unofficial" gingerbread builds still haven't gotten this working yet).
-Yes, GPS works fine. Everything works fine.
-Lockscreen can have a separate wallpaper.
-Control bar is built into the status bar (change brightness/turn on wifi/etc)
CONS
-No HDMI (I didn't use it anyway)
-No 720p video recording
*These are both RUMORED to be being worked on. Who knows.
I recently, however switched to the newest MIUI build.
http://rootzwiki.com/showthread.php?6392-ROM-MIUI.us-1.9.23
I recommend it HIGHLY.
PROS
-Fast, once again. Same speeds as CM7, it seems.
-THEMES. Woah buddy. Themes are a HUGE part of MIUI.
--You download themes from within a theme application...and they once again, theme your phone without the need of a reboot. The best part is, you can swap out pieces of themes for other pieces if you don't like the whole theme.
I'm rocking a theme on the status bar by one dev...a lockscreen by another...a sms by another...yada yada yada.
-Lockscreens...OMG lockscreens. The lockscreens are AWESOME. There are literally HUNDREDS of options for lockscreens. They are changed via the "themes" application...but woah buddy. These aren't just themes.
There are ICS-like lockscreens. Lockscreens that you can drag in like 10 directions depending on what application you want to open.
http://forums.miui.us/showthread.ph...s-lockscreen-theme-collection-new-theme-26-08 there are some good examples in there.
-A little-known trick...MIUI takes screenshots...faster than CM7 =]
--Hold menu+volume down = instant screenshot.
--*Holding menu+volume up = turns your brightness all the way up!
-Fastboot option (rather than a full reboot) is in the power-menu along with bootloader, full reboot, stock recovery, cwm recovery.
-Control-widget's are, again, built into the status bar (change brightness/turn on wifi/etc).
-Blacklist people from calling/texting you by simply adding them to a list available in the contacts app.
-Reply with text message to ignored calls.
-Blur-like dialer in that you can search via t9 for a contact...rather than memorizing the number or opening the contacts list.
-Lockscreens, again, can have custom wallpapers.
-If you're on your phone, a message pops up at the top of the screen when you get an sms that allows you to reply directly without closing the app you're in.
CONS
-No HDMI
-No 720p
*The 720p IS being worked on...haven't heard about the hdmi.
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Well ifbit makes you feel any better Kejar31 is back on the team... finishing up my build on the bionic now....As soon as that's completed I will begin porting that work to tyw DX....
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk
AMAZING FEED BACK!!!
thank guys!!!!
im on miui .16
and the only problems im having are
battery life
and my red cam button doesnt work,
i have to focus by pressing the screen rather than the button
other than that its pretty f'ing cool
but someone mention flashing an old cam apk
how would i go about this?
(is it possible to get the blur cam and galley???)
Still stock 3
Holy crap Kejar! I ended up with Cyanogen because Liberty was lagging behind... now I might need to switch back once it gets updated.
Can we start expecting regular updates from this point forward?
EtherBoo said:
Holy crap Kejar! I ended up with Cyanogen because Liberty was lagging behind... now I might need to switch back once it gets updated.
Can we start expecting regular updates from this point forward?
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Notice this tweet
"Liberty 2 for the DX is coming along nicely.... Expect test builds as early as this weekend.. enjoy this teaser http://t.co/7cD87duk"
follow me on twitter to keep up to date
I've been reading through this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1320350&page=39 and I found out that the .62 version of stock Gingerbread cannot be rooted so easily as .42.
I'm using AOKP Jelly Bean now and I'm tired of its lagginess and unstableness. So I'm switching back to GB.
My thoughts are, what if I flashtool GB .62 and install a pre-rooted kernel, will it work? Which kernel?
My main objective: have the latest stock GB rooted.
Thanks!
look at the bottom half of this guide. it shows you how i think
jman2131 said:
look at the bottom half of this guide. it shows you how i think
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Thanks, but it teaches how to root .42
Give some of these a read - root arc 4.0.2.a.0.62
XperienceD said:
Give some of these a read - root arc 4.0.2.a.0.62
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The fact is that I have unlocked boot loader, which makes OTA update unlikely.
quera said:
The fact is that I have unlocked boot loader, which makes OTA update unlikely.
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flash a .62 rom and then flash a pre-rooted kernel such as "doomlord v22" or "advanced stock (by doomlord)"
pablopablo said:
flash a .62 rom and then flash a pre-rooted kernel such as "doomlord v22" or "advanced stock (by doomlord)"
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Thanks, I managed this afternoon. I flashed .62 GB with Sony Emma and then installed latest DoomKernel for gingerbread and flashed RootXperia.zip.
Gingerbread is much faster and camera is awesome, but geez, If I had never used ICS or JB it would be ok, but it's just when we use a previous version that we realize how much things have improved since GB. I can't use it. I'll probably try Jelly Sandwich tomorrow.
quera said:
Gingerbread is much faster and camera is awesome, but geez, If I had never used ICS or JB it would be ok, but it's just when we use a previous version that we realize how much things have improved since GB. I can't use it. I'll probably try Jelly Sandwich tomorrow.
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What exactly is this BIG crucial thing you are missing from ICS? I also used ICS for almost 2 months, and get back to GB with no problems at all. I just realised how MUCH more this phone is productive and usable with GB.
And I can name you few big things ICS lacks compared to GB.
Gaming performance is ridiculous, as well as overal smoothness, compared to GB. HD recording is better in GB, and wi-fi is better. Battery life is better. Every single app is faster. Browsing web is better.
When you see this things, it turns that every thing crucial for an smartphone is better, so someone is willing to abandon all this, just for the sake of having "new" fancy software, even it's crippled quite a lot, compared to "old" one.
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What exactly is this BIG crucial thing you are missing from ICS? I also used ICS for almost 2 months, and get back to GB with no problems at all. I just realised how MUCH more this phone is productive and usable with GB.
And I can name you few big things ICS lacks compared to GB.
Gaming performance is ridiculous, as well as overal smoothness, compared to GB. HD recording is better in GB, and wi-fi is better. Battery life is better. Every single app is faster. Browsing web is better.
When you see this things, it turns that every thing crucial for an smartphone is better, so someone is willing to abandon all this, just for the sake of having "new" fancy software, even it's crippled quite a lot, compared to "old" one.
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In fact, I miss small improvements, such as status bar. I'll try to numerate somethings I miss:
1) In JB I could read my new email right from Status Bar, without the need to open gmail;
2) I could just swipe to remove some notifications from the status bar;
3) Roboto font-family looks better in ICS+ (but I could live without);
4) Gmail has more features in ICS+, yeah I know it's google's fault;
5) I had toggles (wifi, gps, rotate, torch) right from the status bar in JB AOKP - this is what I most miss;
6) Battery percentage with circular icon in status bar;
7) Ability to access camera faster through lock screen (I installed Holo Locker, but sometimes it doesn't work).
I also tried Jelly Bean Statusbar (from play store), but it lacks all features above.
mr_torture, if you could point some ways to bring these items back to GB (I'm using GB yet) I would be very glad , especially item 5 (status bar toggles).
mr_torture said:
When you see this things, it turns that every thing crucial for an smartphone is better, so someone is willing to abandon all this, just for the sake of having "new" fancy software, even it's crippled quite a lot, compared to "old" one.
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Each to their own, I don't find ICS to be that bad, especially when it's been tweaked a little and from what I've read on here GB is only really better for those that like to play a lot of games on their Phone.
Yeah, I know there are some small fancy things which holds you from going back, and they kept me also for almost two months.
There's no doubt that fully working ICS is much better than fully working GB, noone will argue that.
I'm just saying that ICS implementation for this phone is not among the best, mostly because of crappy performance. Everything else could be lived with, but those lags are just pain in the a.s.s.
Yes, gmail is very limited in GB, and yes, the Roboto font is looking better, and yes, ICS user interface is sleeker and coherent...
But when you balance all good vs bad things, somehow it all comes down to speed and usability. And GB is clear winner there.
Regarding this bulleted number 5, there are at least three options I can think of:
1. Notification Toggle
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...SwiZGUuajR2ZWxpbi5ub3RpZmljYXRpb25Ub2dnbGUiXQ..
2. Power Toggles
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5wYWlubGVzcy5wYyJd
3. Elixir 2
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...SwxLDEsImNvbS5iYXJ0YXQuYW5kcm9pZC5lbGl4aXIiXQ..
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XperienceD said:
Each to their own, I don't find ICS to be that bad, especially when it's been tweaked a little and from what I've read on here GB is only really better for those that like to play a lot of games on their Phone.
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I'm talking about stock GB vs stock ICS.
Yeah, it's better for those who would like to play games from time to time, who would like to have better WiFi coverage, who would like to from-wake-to-capture photos fast, who would like to record unchoppy videos, who would like to perform multitasking without phone going almost unresponsive, etc etc...
Yes, ICS is more fancy, is having small improvements, is looking better, is "new" software, etc etc... But in terms of actual performance and real life usability, it's uncomparable with GB.
I installed Notification Toggle and it's running fine! Thanks!
Now I only need battery percentage to be shown with a circular icon in status bar
quera said:
Now I only need battery percentage to be shown with a circular icon in status bar
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You can try this:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...mh1YmFsZWsuYW5kcm9pZC5hcHBzLnJlYm9ybi5wcm8iXQ..
Free version:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ibmV0Lmh1YmFsZWsuYW5kcm9pZC5yZWJvcm4uYmV0YSJd
This will add icon on left edge of status bar. But it's not free, and your top right battery icon will remain there. If you want to replace battery icon then search for some custom status bar mods in "Theme & Apps" section.
There are some other apps in play store capable of adding circuar battery icon, but I'm in lazy mode currently.
quera said:
In fact, I miss small improvements, such as status bar. I'll try to numerate somethings I miss:
1) In JB I could read my new email right from Status Bar, without the need to open gmail;
2) I could just swipe to remove some notifications from the status bar;
3) Roboto font-family looks better in ICS+ (but I could live without);
4) Gmail has more features in ICS+, yeah I know it's google's fault;
5) I had toggles (wifi, gps, rotate, torch) right from the status bar in JB AOKP - this is what I most miss;
6) Battery percentage with circular icon in status bar;
7) Ability to access camera faster through lock screen (I installed Holo Locker, but sometimes it doesn't work).
I also tried Jelly Bean Statusbar (from play store), but it lacks all features above.
mr_torture, if you could point some ways to bring these items back to GB (I'm using GB yet) I would be very glad , especially item 5 (status bar toggles).
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Why don't you try this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1910549
[MOD][GB 2.3.4] Modded ICS inspired UI with toggles
Sent from my LT15i using xda app-developers app
For me ics is unasble on our devices because of the horrible multitasking. I get better batterylife on ics and i think the interface looks better plus there are some nice features like swiping notifications and using the notificationbar in lockscreen. but if i start switching between my apps quickly (Whatsapp, Browser, Xda, Messages, Facebook, IMDB) every app has to load from start everytime i switch. this doesnt happen in gb and thats the main reason for me to stay on gb.
Hi there,
I have been stumbling across some awesome CM10 themes and it's something I'd like to have although they are only for CM9 and CM10. I'm currently running rooted stock nexus 4, whats the benefits of having a rom like CM10 - does CM10 run 4.2.1? which is what im currently using?
Whats are the positives and negatives to switching?
If i switch, can I convert BACK to stock?
1. Use the search feature. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35521539
2. CM10 = Android 4.1.X....... does not support Android 4.2.X and does not support N4 (mako)
3. first link. no negatives. its like reformatting your computer. If you go to Windows 8 and don't like it, go back to Windows 7.. what are the negatives? none. just reinstall apps... use titanium backup to backup/restore apps (buy pro version)
4. Yes you can revert back to stock. Nothing is permanent on android.
......... next time, do some research before just straight up asking these questions as they are already answered.
T89 said:
Hi there,
I have been stumbling across some awesome CM10 themes and it's something I'd like to have although they are only for CM9 and CM10. I'm currently running rooted stock nexus 4, whats the benefits of having a rom like CM10 - does CM10 run 4.2.1? which is what im currently using?
Whats are the positives and negatives to switching?
If i switch, can I convert BACK to stock?
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a big positive with AOKP is the ability to add in and customize the on screen nav bar buttons. i came from a gs2. so setting this phone to have the same layout as my gs2 capacitive buttons is a real winner. you can also rearrange the order of and how many toggles there are in the quick settings drop down. there is a whole list of features that you get and the devving has only just begun.
phermey said:
a big positive with AOKP is the ability to add in and customize the on screen nav bar buttons. i came from a gs2. so setting this phone to have the same layout as my gs2 capacitive buttons is a real winner. you can also rearrange the order of and how many toggles there are in the quick settings drop down. there is a whole list of features that you get and the devving has only just begun.
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CM10.1 (Jellybro) already has Navigation Bar changes. It's better off getting used to those three buttons IMO, menu is useless for me. I prefer having it as a touch button somewhere on the app. If not then I'll use the bottom right one.
You can arrange toggles on quick settings drop down as well on CM10.1.
CM10.1 is a ongoing project and is developing really fast without dirty hacks that AOKP does. Very clean code.
zephiK said:
CM10.1 (Jellybro) already has Navigation Bar changes. It's better off getting used to those three buttons IMO, menu is useless for me. I prefer having it as a touch button somewhere on the app. If not then I'll use the bottom right one.
You can arrange toggles on quick settings drop down as well on CM10.1.
CM10.1 is a ongoing project and is developing really fast without dirty hacks that AOKP does. Very clean code.
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i got tired of trying to figure out how to get into settings. and even worse... nova settings. so used to it being the menu key that i had to get it back.
tried out cm. a week ago. it was behind aokp in features so i went back to aokp. couldnt speak for what it has so i gave examples of what i know.
clean code or not. aokp has always suited my needs better than cm. but thats just me.
phermey said:
i got tired of trying to figure out how to get into settings. and even worse... nova settings. so used to it being the menu key that i had to get it back.
tried out cm. a week ago. it was behind aokp in features so i went back to aokp. couldnt speak for what it has so i gave examples of what i know.
clean code or not. aokp has always suited my needs better than cm. but thats just me.
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Pull down notifications -> Tiles -> Settings. Guess I got accustomed to it on my Galaxy Nexus where there wasn't a tile button. It was just pull down notifications -> settings. It takes some time getting used to it, but it's pretty good imo. But that's the best part about android you can do it the way you like it, traditionally or the new way
I used to like AOKP but felt it was too bloated with unnecessary crap like AOKP Wallpapers (Swagpapers), unnecessary unicorn stuff etc. I prefer CM as its cleaner code and more optimal whereas AOKP does things in 'hackish' code and just like what the name implies, it's kanged from CM sources anyway.
zephiK said:
Pull down notifications -> Tiles -> Settings. Guess I got accustomed to it on my Galaxy Nexus where there wasn't a tile button. It was just pull down notifications -> settings. It takes some time getting used to it, but it's pretty good imo. But that's the best part about android you can do it the way you like it, traditionally or the new way
I used to like AOKP but felt it was too bloated with unnecessary crap like AOKP Wallpapers (Swagpapers), unnecessary unicorn stuff etc. I prefer CM as its cleaner code and more optimal whereas AOKP does things in 'hackish' code and just like what the name implies, it's kanged from CM sources anyway.
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lol. that damn pink unicorn is so old. the day it was released it got old, and every time someone tries to be cute by adding another wallpaper... i think to myself WHY!!!
one thing i loved about sticking cm on my nexus was that bad a$$ boot animation. once the first milestone get released i will definitely be checking cm out again. you are also 100% correct on the code thing. and i never thought of the meaning of kang. <--- good point.
phermey said:
lol. that damn pink unicorn is so old. the day it was released it got old, and every time someone tries to be cute by adding another wallpaper... i think to myself WHY!!!
one thing i loved about sticking cm on my nexus was that bad a$$ boot animation. once the first milestone get released i will definitely be checking cm out again. you are also 100% correct on the code thing. and i never thought of the meaning of kang. <--- good point.
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haha yeah i was annoyed of keep having to remove AOKPClock, SwagPapers, Swag Toggle like wth... unnecessary line of code. i do love the amount of customization in there though. i used xylon on my galaxy nexus before i got my N4 (it started coming to rise at 4.2.X) its pretty customizable as well, very feature rich.
does AOKP have navigation height / width adjustments in the ROM already? i miss that feature, CM has everything I want as of right now. only missing nav height changes. can't wait for PGM for N4 though http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bZEodCnYv58#t=14s is a brief video of what it is. i love it because i dont have to use the buttons
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haha yeah i was annoyed of keep having to remove AOKPClock, SwagPapers, Swag Toggle like wth... unnecessary line of code. i do love the amount of customization in there though. i used xylon on my galaxy nexus before i got my N4 (it started coming to rise at 4.2.X) its pretty customizable as well, very feature rich.
does AOKP have navigation height / width adjustments in the ROM already? i miss that feature, CM has everything I want as of right now. only missing nav height changes. can't wait for PGM for N4 though http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bZEodCnYv58#t=14s is a brief video of what it is. i love it because i dont have to use the buttons
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they also just stuck in some arrow keys when the keyboard is active.
will check out that video. saw the thread in themes and had no clue what it was.
edit. that is pretty cool. does that also mean the phone never sleeps? and i dunno how you managed to get that video to load at 14s. but you the man for doing it. i see the #t=14s. learn something new every day.
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they also just stuck in some arrow keys when the keyboard is active.
will check out that video. saw the thread in themes and had no clue what it was.
edit. that is pretty cool. does that also mean the phone never sleeps? and i dunno how you managed to get that video to load at 14s. but you the man for doing it.
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Ah I don't need arrows, I actually prefer them to be normal size. AOKP probably has this feature already, CM has a feature in which if you are on a entry field (typing) you can use volume keys.. up and down to move left and right of your words if you choose to (can be disabled).
the phone does sleep, it's built into a kernel module and uses very minimal battery life. I've used it since I saw it on the GN apps forum. if you use light flow, it probably uses the same amount of battery (or less). lightflow barely interferes with the phone's battery life.
oh that's easy.. just go to any youtube video and right click the video and click "Copy current url at current time" I figured I would save you some time and get to the point
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Ah I don't need arrows, I actually prefer them to be normal size. AOKP probably has this feature already, CM has a feature in which if you are on a entry field (typing) you can use volume keys.. up and down to move left and right of your words if you choose to (can be disabled).
the phone does sleep, it's built into a kernel module and uses very minimal battery life. I've used it since I saw it on the GN apps forum. if you use light flow, it probably uses the same amount of battery (or less). lightflow barely interferes with the phone's battery life.
oh that's easy.. just go to any youtube video and right click the video and click "Copy current url at current time" I figured I would save you some time and get to the point
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i dont use light flow. aokp has something similar baked in.
that pgm app keeps looking better and better. i will be using it. thanks
Can you use custom nav bars on cm10 ?
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colobos said:
Can you use custom nav bars on cm10 ?
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Custom nav bars as in... what? You can modify your nav bar to your liking.
Home back recents
Recents Back Home......... whatever combo you want.
i dont use light flow. aokp has something similar baked in.
that pgm app keeps looking better and better. i will be using it. thanks
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Don't try using it on N4. Not supported yet. Will most likely cause problems if you try it.
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1. Use the search feature. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35521539
2. CM10 = Android 4.1.X....... does not support Android 4.2.X and does not support N4 (mako)
3. first link. no negatives. its like reformatting your computer. If you go to Windows 8 and don't like it, go back to Windows 7.. what are the negatives? none. just reinstall apps... use titanium backup to backup/restore apps (buy pro version)
4. Yes you can revert back to stock. Nothing is permanent on android.
......... next time, do some research before just straight up asking these questions as they are already answered.
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Asking people for their opinions is different to research. I would have to search soo many cm posts to find opinions or I could ask. This forum is q and a so please stop.
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Also, and thanks everyone for your replies I think I'll stick with what I have.
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Hi all!
As probably many of You I love stock android for its stellar performance, smoothness and neat simple design. With that being said I still like some HTC features and stock stability. Maybe we could find a developer to make a google play edition like rom for our M9?
This is how I see it:
2.10.401.1 stock 5.1 rom base
vanilla / google like navbar
vanilla status bar / quick setting
vanilla multitasking cards ( with translucent navbar and with full size google search bar )
vanilla statusbar icons / centered clock / percentage batery indicator (like in htc sense)
extended vanilla settings app
google now launcher / nova / sense home
stock google dialer
messenger sms app
android m calculator
google keyboard app
htc camera app
htc gallery app
htc status bar
htc or google lockscreen
stock 5.1 bootanimation
debloat / performance / battery / camera improvements
I'm new to building roms/porting stuff but i think that most of the things needed already exists. Maybe we could find a developer keen on building this google play edition like rom so that we could have one
Let me know if and of You would be intrested to help me build one or if You like this idea
toster jp said:
Hi all!
As probably many of You I love stock android for its stellar performance, smoothness and neat simple design. With that being said I still like some HTC features and stock stability. Maybe we could find a developer to make a google play edition like rom for our M9?
This is how I see it:
2.10.401.1 stock 5.1 rom base
vanilla / google like navbar
vanilla status bar / quick setting
vanilla multitasking cards ( with translucent navbar and with full size google search bar )
vanilla statusbar icons / centered clock / percentage batery indicator (like in htc sense)
extended vanilla settings app
google now launcher / nova / sense home
stock google dialer
messenger sms app
android m calculator
google keyboard app
htc camera app
htc gallery app
htc status bar
htc or google lockscreen
stock 5.1 bootanimation
debloat / performance / battery / camera improvements
I'm complete noob while it comes to porting stuff / building roms but i think that most of the thing needed to build this kind of rom already exist. Maybe we could find a developer keen to build this google play edition like rom so that we could have one
Let me know if and of You would be intrested to help me build one and if You like this idea
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Pretty sure viper had a desense install option and one of the SD team roms claim to be desensed as well. One of those might be worth a look.
Thats true but unfortunately it's nothing like stock experience. 'Desensed' viper is still sense based, with sense navbar, sense settings, multitasking, quick settings etc. Desense option just delete sense launcher and some bloatware.
I'll collect files needed to build my 'dream' vanilla rom and maybe one day someone will cook it with me.
You can pretty much do all that you want to do with Viper, you can change the navbar to whatever you want with themes, the multitasking is selectable with sense, you can theme the status bar like stock, the quick settings and settings are pretty much stock like already. Once you install Now launcher and the Google apps, you would have a pretty much Nexus looking device with a few extras. Many have done this already. It's not worth trying to get someone to build another ROM while what you want already exists.
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You can pretty much do all that you want to do with Viper, you can change the navbar to whatever you want with themes, the multitasking is selectable with sense, you can theme the status bar like stock, the quick settings and settings are pretty much stock like already. Once you install Now launcher and the Google apps, you would have a pretty much Nexus looking device with a few extras. Many have done this already. It's not worth trying to get someone to build another ROM while what you want already exists.
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well.. I couldn't find even one theme that changes statusbar icons/navbar to stock android.. also there is no theme that could change feel of the quick settings, pure one works quite different. I've also found themes to slow down the phone and it stutters there and there even without them.. Multitasking cards that htc offers are also a bit different than pure google ones - navbar is not completely translucent, cards often dont show app content.. also those horrible settings dots placed next to the google search bar.
I generally believe that there is space for one more rom, especially that there is no oven one google play edition like rom right now.
I've attatched a few screenshots, the difference is.. critical IMO
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well.. I couldn't find even one theme that changes statusbar icons/navbar to stock android.. also there is no theme that could change feel of the quick settings, pure one works quite different. I've also found themes to slow down the phone and it stutters there and there even without them.. Multitasking cards that htc offers are also a bit different than pure google ones - navbar is not completely translucent, cards often dont show app content.. also those horrible settings dots placed next to the google search bar.
I generally believe that there is space for one more rom, especially that there is no oven one google play edition like rom right now.
I've attatched a few screenshots, the difference is.. critical IMO
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Well it seems like cm is close and the only major bug left is that the camera doesn't work, so if you can live without that, you should try it out.
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well.. I couldn't find even one theme that changes statusbar icons/navbar to stock android.. also there is no theme that could change feel of the quick settings, pure one works quite different. I've also found themes to slow down the phone and it stutters there and there even without them.. Multitasking cards that htc offers are also a bit different than pure google ones - navbar is not completely translucent, cards often dont show app content.. also those horrible settings dots placed next to the google search bar.
I generally believe that there is space for one more rom, especially that there is no oven one google play edition like rom right now.
I've attatched a few screenshots, the difference is.. critical IMO
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Did you ever try the viper rom? Doesn't sound like you did. Statusbar icons and stock android navbar can be found on the venom hub. The quick settings can be adjusted to your likes via venom tweaks. Never noticed any stutters on viper and card view always showed app content, too.
Edit: Or you combine CM with this xposed module. But as jollywhitefoot already said the camera doesn't work at the moment.
@jollywhitefoot - yes I'm basicly looking for a CM with a working camera, or to be exact for AOSP like rom.
@Flippy498 - I did.. viper was the first rom i flashed on my M9 , but i quickly switched to maximus because I ws looking for sth performing better. *note* I'm performance freak, I'm very picky, You might don't care about few droped frames - I do, and I see droped frames while opening multitasking on both viper and maximus ( only on card view ) It would this rom could have performance of the s6.
Anyway I'll give Viper a second chance and try Your tips, thanks
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@jollywhitefoot - yes I'm basicly looking for a CM with a working camera, or to be exact for AOSP like rom.
@Flippy498 - I did.. viper was the first rom i flashed on my M9 , but i quickly switched to maximus because I ws looking for sth performing better. *note* I'm performance freak, I'm very picky, You might don't care about few droped frames - I do, and I see droped frames while opening multitasking on both viper and maximus ( only on card view ) It would this rom could have performance of the s6.
Anyway I'll give Viper a second chance and try Your tips, thanks
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Man, for a "noob" you sure are specific! Haha.
What do you mean by dropped frames in recents? I'm on ice and it's full sense, but I don't notice anything laggy or stuttery in recents there is a slight delay when opening recents (fractions of a second while the cards populate). I'm also getting over 60k antutu out of the box at room temp.
@jollywhitefoot
I'm talking about that slight delay when opening multitasking window. Also I'm noob while it comes to building roms, I'm not new to android/xda/flashing roms.
+ I don't care abous benchmarks, but I'm freak while it comes to fluidity and real world performance. I also pay attention to little things like animations and those little things.
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@jollywhitefoot
I'm talking about that slight delay when opening multitasking window. Also I'm noob while it comes to building roms, I'm not new to android/xda/flashing roms.
+ I don't care abous benchmarks, but I'm freak while it comes to fluidity and real world performance. I also pay attention to little things like animations and those little things.
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Well I find ice very smooth. Apparently you have an aosp device...there is no delay when opening recents on it??
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@jollywhitefoot
I'm talking about that slight delay when opening multitasking window. Also I'm noob while it comes to building roms, I'm not new to android/xda/flashing roms.
+ I don't care abous benchmarks, but I'm freak while it comes to fluidity and real world performance. I also pay attention to little things like animations and those little things.
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Edit, actually I only get that slight delay when I'm on the home screen. If I press recent from inside any app, it's smooth as silk.
I had nexus 5 and on 5.0 (and under) there is delay but on 5.1 its like butter, also quick settings works differently ( than sense settings) they are nicely animated and so on..
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I had nexus 5 and on 5.0 (and under) there is delay but on 5.1 its like butter, also quick settings works differently ( than sense settings) they are nicely animated and so on..
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Lol. Quite an arsenal. Where's your G4 and S6???
@jollywhitefoot
I hate design of G4 outside and inside, not a big fan of samsung as well. would rather have z3+ ( z3+ over m9 any day, but the price gap between them in poland is well, huge. 475USD for m9 and 795 for z3+ )
Going back to the main subject I'll talk with some guys and maybe will build with them the rom I'm waiting for. ( It will be like elix-r / elixium for nexus5 / m8 )
To be honest, if you want this best experience with vanilla android, it is best to get a device with it preinstalled and then even if you want to run custom roms, there are no issues. Personally, I was looking to get the Nexus 6, but didn't like the overly large screen. Now, I'm waiting to see what the Moto X 2015 brings to the table. Although, after having my M9 for a while now, I'm not sure I would switch. I'm loving being back on Sense. I also love the build quality of this device, but there is nothing special about the hardware. The one thing that is the best about this device is what you are wanting to remove, HTC Sense 7.
@ fernandezhjr
Thats quite obvious that its best to buy device with vanilla android preinstaled. I just don't like nexus 6 ( size, and looks) and I needed a phone so i bought one m9 for many reasons. I like its build quality, speakers and metal unibody and after updates the camera is not that bad ( although slow motion and video in general sucks )
With the right software I could be very satisfied , now I'm looking for that software. I like some elements of sense ( like its camera ui) or its lockscreen clock. But there are things like its quick settings that are just plain fugly ( to me of course)
I find the quick settings panel to be somewhat similar to the one I had on my Nexus 4. You can download the Google camera from the playstore. Try some different lauchers to find something you may like. The clock is just a widget. There are plenty of clocks available in the Playstore.
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I find the quick settings panel to be somewhat similar to the one I had on my Nexus 4. You can download the Google camera from the playstore. Try some different lauchers to find something you may like. The clock is just a widget. There are plenty of clocks available in the Playstore.
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Already posted screenshots showing the difference, it may be simmilar but its far from being the same. As mentioned before I'm running nova launcher and i like htc stock camera interface. + I know it just a clock and there are thousands of clocks on the playstore and around the internet I was just saying that I like some parts of htc sense.
Coming from Samsung and Sony where there was a big difference are all Roms basically the same base on the X Style. Are there differences that I should be aware of?
Thanks
Edit Title should say AOSP!
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I'd say the only reason to go cutom ROM on this phone would be customization. The stock ROM is pretty reliable, fast, and easy on the battery. Especially if you start tuning up the custom kernels how you like them.
Stock doesn't feel like it's dragging a frickin boat anchor or god awful at memory management like on a Samsung. This phone doesn't have an ugly, laggy vendor skin. With MM (and root) you can use RRO layers to theme it - no custom ROM required. I've run custom ROMs for years because...Samsung. I'm kind of tired of flaky bluetooth, FCs, and stuff that just doesn't quite work right but is better than Touchwiz.
The only thing I'd really like to have that custom ROMs make available would be double tap status bar to sleep, status bar brightness slider, and notification led; most everything else honestly goes in the stuff I don't use / forget about category (well...slim recents would be nice too). You could tackle most of that with XPosed too, but that brings its own baggage. I've tried out a few of the custom ROM offerings, and for now I keep going back to stock. They're good, but not good enough for me to give up that stock stability when stock is so close to pure AOSP. We have Multirom too, so that makes test driving multiple ROMs really easy.
As for AOSP vs. CM, I'm pretty sure all the custom ROMs you'll find here have a CM base. You can find Broken for this phone too, and it usually uses an AOSP-CAF base. I haven't actually checked Broken out yet.
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I'd say the only reason to go cutom ROM on this phone would be customization. The stock ROM is pretty reliable, fast, and easy on the battery. Especially if you start tuning up the custom kernels how you like them.
Stock doesn't feel like it's dragging a frickin boat anchor or god awful at memory management like on a Samsung. This phone doesn't have an ugly, laggy vendor skin. With MM (and root) you can use RRO layers to theme it - no custom ROM required. I've run custom ROMs for years because...Samsung. I'm kind of tired of flaky bluetooth, FCs, and stuff that just doesn't quite work right but is better than Touchwiz.
The only thing I'd really like to have that custom ROMs make available would be double tap status bar to sleep, status bar brightness slider, and notification led; most everything else honestly goes in the stuff I don't use / forget about category (well...slim recents would be nice too). You could tackle most of that with XPosed too, but that brings its own baggage. I've tried out a few of the custom ROM offerings, and for now I keep going back to stock. They're good, but not good enough for me to give up that stock stability when stock is so close to pure AOSP. We have Multirom too, so that makes test driving multiple ROMs really easy.
As for AOSP vs. CM, I'm pretty sure all the custom ROMs you'll find here have a CM base. You can find Broken for this phone too, and it usually uses an AOSP-CAF base. I haven't actually checked Broken out yet.
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Thanks for the reply... I think I'm more concerned about flashing the wrong kernel.
For example I'm used to say flashing a Stock kernel on my Z2 Sony ROM, I could opt for CM Rom and know I need CM kernel. This difference seem so much more blurred here on the Moto X Style.
Also for example we have BlissPure, PureBliss, FrakenClark and Stock optimised [@VadimTk] there doesn't seem to be an easy way of knowing which ROMs they can be flashed on.
I'm new to Moto's so learning fast!
Frankenclark and vadim's are stock.
Bliss is for cm base.
The frankenclark dev dirtyhank has been bringing some great features lately, and hashbang has been picking them up and baking them into his aicp builds too.
jason2678 said:
I'd say the only reason to go cutom ROM on this phone would be customization. The stock ROM is pretty reliable, fast, and easy on the battery. Especially if you start tuning up the custom kernels how you like them.
Stock doesn't feel like it's dragging a frickin boat anchor or god awful at memory management like on a Samsung. This phone doesn't have an ugly, laggy vendor skin. With MM (and root) you can use RRO layers to theme it - no custom ROM required. I've run custom ROMs for years because...Samsung. I'm kind of tired of flaky bluetooth, FCs, and stuff that just doesn't quite work right but is better than Touchwiz.
The only thing I'd really like to have that custom ROMs make available would be double tap status bar to sleep, status bar brightness slider, and notification led; most everything else honestly goes in the stuff I don't use / forget about category (well...slim recents would be nice too). You could tackle most of that with XPosed too, but that brings its own baggage. I've tried out a few of the custom ROM offerings, and for now I keep going back to stock. They're good, but not good enough for me to give up that stock stability when stock is so close to pure AOSP. We have Multirom too, so that makes test driving multiple ROMs really easy.
As for AOSP vs. CM, I'm pretty sure all the custom ROMs you'll find here have a CM base. You can find Broken for this phone too, and it usually uses an AOSP-CAF base. I haven't actually checked Broken out yet.
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Quick note. Nova Prime launcher offers double tap to sleep. Definitely recommend it.
Ditamae said:
Quick note. Nova Prime launcher offers double tap to sleep. Definitely recommend it.
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I've tried that with Nova, but you have to double tap blank space on a screen, not an app or widget. I actually have swipe up mapped to screen off with Nova because that seems to work anywhere. I agree it's a pretty good substitute.
I think I could get everything I want/need with stock and xposed. I'll maybe root this weekend and see how I on with rooted stock mm...
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Coming from Samsung to Motorola my only complaint really about stock is missing features that I just wouldn't expect to be missing. The two that stick out most for me is the lack of a number row on the stock keyboard and a lack of an interface for a clipboard for copy and paste. Obviously a lot of these things can be supplemented with apps and mods but that kinda defeats the purpose of having a stock experience.
Edit: Oh and no option for battery percent in the status bar but I found a trick to enable that without any modifications.
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Coming from Samsung to Motorola my only complaint really about stock is missing features that I just wouldn't expect to be missing. The two that stick out most for me is the lack of a number row on the stock keyboard and a lack of an interface for a clipboard for copy and paste. Obviously a lot of these things can be supplemented with apps and mods but that kinda defeats the purpose of having a stock experience.
Edit: Oh and no option for battery percent in the status bar but I found a trick to enable that without any modifications.
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Yeah I found the battery % trick/app early....
Data/network indicators, centre clock. I use google KB, so have the numbers.
Not sure what you mean by no copy/paste clipboard?
Agent. said:
Coming from Samsung to Motorola my only complaint really about stock is missing features that I just wouldn't expect to be missing. The two that stick out most for me is the lack of a number row on the stock keyboard and a lack of an interface for a clipboard for copy and paste. Obviously a lot of these things can be supplemented with apps and mods but that kinda defeats the purpose of having a stock experience.
Edit: Oh and no option for battery percent in the status bar but I found a trick to enable that without any modifications.
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Yeah I found the battery % trick/app early....
Data/network indicators, centre clock. I use google KB, so have the numbers.
Not sure what you mean by no copy/paste clipboard?
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Y'all two care to share your little trick? I haven't come across center clock on Moto Stock without using Xposed.
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Y'all two care to share your little trick? I haven't come across center clock on Moto Stock without using Xposed.
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Sorry, xposed IS needed for centre clock AFAIK...
I personally hate CM. Ever since my first Android phone I've always avoided it. I tried BlissROM and wasn't happy with it. I haven't used an AOSP ROM for any phone since my MyTouch4G. The ROM I'm currently using is TruePureX, and it's been going great. It's stock, but without bloat and a few added features. Then I add Xposed and GravityBox and it's perfect.
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Yeah I found the battery % trick/app early....
Data/network indicators, centre clock. I use google KB, so have the numbers.
Not sure what you mean by no copy/paste clipboard?
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On my Samsung Galaxy S5 there was a clipboard where I could manage previously cut and copied content, not just the last item.
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Y'all two care to share your little trick? I haven't come across center clock on Moto Stock without using Xposed.
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The trick allows you to enable the battery percentage as well as a few other things and can be found here.