Kernel and ROM - Nexus 10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

KTManta vs Franco
and which ROM is the best, pro n con please.
sorry, im really new at this.

Well, neither are a ROM, and neither are best or worse. It is all about what you are looking for in a kernel

Troll thread? There are stickies if you're being serious.
Each thread respective to the developer will have a summary of their kernels.
Pros and cons can be read in the threads as both are fairly new for the Nexus 10. You won't have to read too many.
I'm using KTmanta as it doesn't give me reboots on kaos rom. I was on Franco on PA but the instability was too much.
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It all depends on your specific needs. I use RasSaber + franco.Kernel, but I can't say it's the best (I haven't tested every other ROM/Kernel combination) or if it'll be the best for you. I prefer minimal customizations with speed, but others want customization and speed, others just customization, etc.

Yea they are all great kernel, it is just a matter of finding what you feel is best for you. I mean I jump around between all three kernels of Trinity, KTmanta, and Franco love using them all and I bought their apps. Each one offer something different, but in the end it all depends on how it is for you. As for me I went back to KTmanta from Franco using CarbonRom. There is no best just what is good to you.

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Best kernel for gaming

Hey y'all, I'm looking for a DA,n good kernel for gaming, I am currently using m kernel, on clean ROM. Any of you have a good kernel for this, or even a good kernel/ROM combo you use
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trinity kernel. but thats just my opinion, as you will probably get every other kernel listed here from others opinions. its best to just try out different kernels and find what you and your device like.
simms22 said:
trinity kernel. but thats just my opinion, as you will probably get every other kernel listed here from others opinions. its best to just try out different kernels and find what you and your device like.
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I personally would recommend Trinity now too. No offence simms22 but it used to not be the smoothest of experiences But this has changed dramatically and I am now playing around with it on stock ROM and it feels just as smooth as the stock kernel but with much greater performance and tweaking abilities.

Which ROM and Kernel do you prefer (for daily use), and why?

MODS: No, please don't close this yet. This is not a "Best ROM" thread in my opinion. I've tried my fair share of ROM's, I'm just curious what ROM people prefer and what kind of aspects of a ROM people prefer. Same for kernels. So it's not about finding the best, it's about what people like, and why. It interests me. Still don't agree? Well then we have different opinions and you can close the thread.
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SO, back to the thread. The title says it all. If you would choose a ROM and kernel for daily use, what would you use? Would you pick X because it's easy to use, has great battery life and a minimal design, is built with the Samsung framework etc? Or would you pick Y because you can fiddle with things, it has lots of special apps and is incredibly stable, is based on AOSP/AOPK, etc?
I'm just curious about your preferences, type away!
DO NOT START ARGUMENTS! You are inherently wrong for starting one because people stating a preference can't be wrong for having that preference. So if you start an argument, you're by default an idiot. Don't be an idiot. It's simple.
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slaphead20 said:
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Why are you like that... Don't be so negative man. I know what kind of ROM and kernel I need and I download+edit my ROMs/kernels accordingly. If I change my opinion, I change my kernel/ROM.
Ok then, me for example:
I bought my new SGSIII and first flashed the very popular Siyah kernel. However, I don't like being mainstream Then I used Speedmod for a while because it's a very stable and battery saving kernel, but I was missing the tweaks and OC/UV. It's also based on pegasusq while I prefer lulzactiveq. Now I'm trying Perseus, still seeing what I can do with that.
As a ROM I'm using DarkyROM, but it's a bit too heavy for my liking. I'm going to use VikingWay since that's very light, and I'll see what happens. I've also got Complex-D lined up for testing. I don't really use AOSP ROMs because I love Sammy's camera and agenda software (yeah I really do like them ) and I can't use those on AOSP ROMs.
Rom preference threads never end well.
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OMG this again?
When will people learn?
Crdroid is just a great rom loads of customisations.
Perseus kernel is a goos choice for my performance and battery life.
Good idea with this thread
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Currently the best custom rom?

any ideas here guys? i really wanna flash a custom rom, but which one is currently the best?
italia0101 said:
any ideas here guys? i really wanna flash a custom rom, but which one is currently the best?
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It really depends what you're looking for in a ROM. There are a lot of different ROMs that are currently available depending on what you want. Whether it's a stock feel (AOSP ROMs), customizability (AOKP, PA), CM10 of course, and more. I highly doubt anyone has tried all of the ROMs that are out there so go into the dev sections and do some reading and see what you like! :good:
Really too subjective of a question to ask. "Best" is the ROM that contains everything you're looking for.
The best custom ROM for me is CM 10.1's nightly builds. The best custom Kernel for me is franco.Kernel. Both together = awesome (for me)
Thanks guys . I realise its a subjective view but thanks for replying
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Whatever ROM you choose, I second using Franco kernel :good:
I've been running a CM10.1 nightly with no custom kernel, its been pretty solid. I might have to check out Franco's kernel though, I'd like to try out undervolting for better battery life and heat at some point.
brGabriel said:
Really too subjective of a question to ask. "Best" is the ROM that contains everything you're looking for.
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I've always understood this, but never really knew where to look. Is there some place that has a list of all the kernels and ROM projects and what their goals are. User reviews would be pretty handy as well.
As others have stated, this is very subjective. For example, I'd recommend AOKP. Not because it's the best per se, but because it's the one I'm using and I'm quite happy with it.
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Is there some place that has a list of all the kernels and ROM projects and what their goals are. User reviews would be pretty handy as well.
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There is a list here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003731
But you will have to read up a little on each one for specific features, bugs, and user reviews. Many ROMs with lots of features sound great but in practice aren't the most stable. Most bugs get ironed out in time by our great dev's, but its something to consider. When in doubt, flash & check it out!
For the record I use schnip's AOSP ROM w/ Tablet UI + Franco.kernel = clean, fast ROM with tablet interface. Can't ask for much more.
brGabriel said:
This is a list here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003731
But you will have to read up a little on each one for specific features, bugs, and user reviews. Many ROMs with lots of features sound great but in practice aren't the most stable. Most bugs get ironed out in time by our great dev's, but its something to consider. When in doubt, flash & check it out!
For the record I use schnip's AOSP ROM w/ Tablet UI + Franco.kernel = clean, fast ROM with tablet interface. Can't ask for much more.
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Hey I was considering using this combo and I just wanted to know if the native OTG support still functions after you flash the franco.kernel?
dust. said:
Hey I was considering using this combo and I just wanted to know if the native OTG support still functions after you flash the franco.kernel?
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I honestly couldn't tell you since I don't own an OTG cable but you can flash franco's kernel and test it. If it doesn't work just reflash the ROM (without wiping) and you'll revert to the original kernel without losing any of your apps and data.
brGabriel said:
There is a list here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2003731
But you will have to read up a little on each one for specific features, bugs, and user reviews. Many ROMs with lots of features sound great but in practice aren't the most stable. Most bugs get ironed out in time by our great dev's, but its something to consider. When in doubt, flash & check it out!
For the record I use schnip's AOSP ROM w/ Tablet UI + Franco.kernel = clean, fast ROM with tablet interface. Can't ask for much more.
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What's so good about Franco.kernel?
I'm on AOKP with KTManta and have solid performance.
Pharmbob said:
What's so good about Franco.kernel?
I'm on AOKP with KTManta and have solid performance.
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Personal preference. Nothing more
Pharmbob said:
What's so good about Franco.kernel?
I'm on AOKP with KTManta and have solid performance.
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Seems to be by far the best kernel for dealing with the throttling issue that exists with our device so far...
Installed aokp . loving it.
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At this point, I've gotta give it to AOKP. Lots of customizability and very smooth and quick. Rotating 180 degrees has no noticeable lag for me.
Paranoid Android is one of my all time favs in order to maximize your tablet space by altering app DPIs etc (not that you need to with a tablet this large). MMuzzy's ROM is a nice AOSP replacement which is what I'm on currently. As far as kernels go, it's really up to personal preference. I'm on KTManta (ktoonservative) and it flies though sometimes I get the lockscreen (black) of death - not waking up from lockscreen. I bought Franco's app ages ago before I got a tablet and can vouch that he also builds a strong/stable kernel.
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If anyones interested i made a AOKP video http://youtu.be/VNxdhF-nvec

kernels

new here,
dont want to ask the noob question of which kernel is the best...but can I get some opinions on what kernel you guys use and why?
I basically want to be able to undervolt a bit across the board, and have an improvment in battery life without losing the snappiness of the phone.
nothing major....I noticed the Franco Kernel is very popular, but there isnt any details on the op about it per the creators style.
Also, I read if you come off of Francos, you need to flash the reset kernel...where is that?
thanks
all help is appreciated
Franco is great. Doesn't UV, though.
Honestly, check out Harsh kernel. It's already UV'ed and allows for more. Also, it is QUICK. Battery life is great.
Personally, I use Matr1x kernel. I wondered the same question as OP and I jumped around a few kernels. I used Franco, Bricked, and now Matr1x (might have tried out IntersectRaven's, but I forget). Allows for undervolt and has a few governors as well as I/O schedulers. I like to settle for one thing so right now I'm content. I can't judge battery life, because I don't completely rely on kernels to do it for me, rather I manage my apps and screen, auto sync, etc. myself.
I believe the reset kernel is the stock kernel, which you need to flash before any custom kernel, but... not quite sure
There are some great kernel devs here, as you would assume (random order): Franco, Morfic, Mathk1d, Harsh, etc etc. All with individual qualities, I however find common details in most of them; great improvements in battery life & performance being the biggest compared to stock.
Try them all, they're free & it's easy enough.
(Personally, I have two backups in twrp that I always revert to: rasbean + trinity & minco + franco. Seen you asked..) :thumbup:
Reset kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024982
I've been using motley since day one that I've had my N4. Jumped to franco to check it out but always ended back with motley. Most of his builds are tested before release and he will tell you if they're for testing (alphas), tested a little bit (betas) or stable. There was a few weeks where I didn't even update my kernel because it was perfect (at least for me) and just updated to get the later features. There are a lot out there and its just a matter of testing and seeing which kernel/features fits our needs. :good:
On my sig we have a chart going on with different versions that have been tested with voltages and binning.
MiNCO has been great for me
AW: kernels
Trinity kernel (latest, ondemand) and rbj. Nice combination. Realy fast, without the need of extra tweeks. UV by default. Smooth.
Used Matrix 5.5 bevor, also snappy, but drained my battery faster.
Francos kernel with minco rom worked great on battery life, but was not that smooth. But haven't tried the latest francokernel.
Everything just personal, and battery life depends much on the way you use your n4.
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For me, Faux's kernel is hard to beat
Very good battery life, potential to UV, extremely stable, super smooth, release schedule is relentless and faux is quick to help out troubleshooting.
But above all else, the one feature that stands out above all else is full colour control with gamma adjustment! This alone makes it worth it, completely unleashes this device's screen!
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Trinity has excellent performance and solid battery. Highly recommended.
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This is completely subjective, different kernels work best for different people. Try a few out and see which you prefer

[Q] General questions from a new owner

Hey guys, I recently bought a Nexus 4 (I will get it tomorrow, but will have to wait more for screen protectors and case) and coming from an Xperia T it's like I'm a kid in a candy shop; all those kernels and ROMs, my head is spinning.
So my plan is to enjoy stock Android for 15 minutes and then root/unlock the device right away. Now, couple questions for you guys:
1, I've seen some Linaro builds of both ROMs and kernels here and there. Does it speed up the phone much? Does it make it worse (see: overheating)? Also, I don't know if I can run a stock toolchain ROM with a Linaro kernel or vice versa. How about that?
2. Regarding the kernels, I'll never stick to stock so will change to a custom one. I heard faux's and franco's (remember the latter from his very first release on the Optimus One ) are the best ones on the market and they both have customization apps. Now for what I've seen, faux's kernel provides more customization on the app, but don't know how does it perform in real-life situations, nor I do with franco's (altough I tend to prefer this one for the per-app settings). Could you guys give me some informations about this?
Thanks a lot
-Bytecode
Bytecode said:
Hey guys, I recently bought a Nexus 4 (I will get it tomorrow, but will have to wait more for screen protectors and case) and coming from an Xperia T it's like I'm a kid in a candy shop; all those kernels and ROMs, my head is spinning.
So my plan is to enjoy stock Android for 15 minutes and then root/unlock the device right away. Now, couple questions for you guys:
1, I've seen some Linaro builds of both ROMs and kernels here and there. Does it speed up the phone much? Does it make it worse (see: overheating)? Also, I don't know if I can run a stock toolchain ROM with a Linaro kernel or vice versa. How about that?
2. Regarding the kernels, I'll never stick to stock so will change to a custom one. I heard faux's and franco's (remember the latter from his very first release on the Optimus One ) are the best ones on the market and they both have customization apps. Now for what I've seen, faux's kernel provides more customization on the app, but don't know how does it perform in real-life situations, nor I do with franco's (altough I tend to prefer this one for the per-app settings). Could you guys give me some informations about this?
Thanks a lot
-Bytecode
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1. 4.2.2 ROMs and Kernels are inteechangable. You can use any kernel with any ROM, even the stock one. However, with 4.3 , you have to match the build number of the ROM with the kernel type.
Sidenote : The Nexus 4 does not normally overheat. The glass gets warm because it's a good heat conductor, and pulls the heat out. Don't worry about it.
2. While Franco seeks to be the perfect balance between performance and battery life, faux gives you a choise: either performance or battery life, or both, in a balanced way.
I was in a similar situation as you are about a week ago. I came from a Galaxy Nexus and couldn't wait for my Nexus 4 to arrive. I too spent a lot of time in the Development forum trying to figure out which ROM would work well for my needs. In the past, I have never run stock Android. However, that was before the launch of 4.3.
Right now, I am still running stock (a whole week later!) and am really enjoying the smooth experience. With root, I can use Xposed framework to implement the few mods that I like.
Overall, I am very happy with the device. I'd give stock a try - at least a day or two, and see if it meets your needs as well.
Thanks all, I'll give both a shot. I'll give stock a shot too. First days will flash ROMs on ROMs and I will find the stablest for me
Sorry, but this is "what is the best rom/kernel" thread. Try them out for yourself and see what works for you. You mentioned some of them so just flash them first and see how they work, they're free. Personally I like franco and semaphore kernels, Neo is a good kernel for performance too, for roms I stick to the big names like CM, AOKP, SlimRoms and Paranoid.
Hey Bytecode,
Try slimbean, you probably remeber popdog's slimbean for p500, it is 10% of real slimbean on good device You will not need any custom kernel with it.

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