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Glazed Jelly or Paranoid?

Just got my Nexus, won't be using it much until my case/screen protector arrive!
What ROM do you guys recommend, I narrowed it down to a couple.
Glazed Jelly Bean
ParanoidAndroid (I think there was another popular variant of this as well?)
Looking for just silky smooth, stable, long battery life, Improvements in audio quality, picture quality or anything else welcome too.
What do you guys recommend for a launcher as well?
I might consider dual booting Ubuntu on this thing too! Does it work well?

I would recommend keep PA for first week, flash franco r25 kernel and xlouder patch.
Next week flash Glazed with above combo. After that decide for yourself which you like more
I have flashed 6 differenr ROMS, its fun I change it every week.
So dont ask, try it out for yourself all different roms all are good in their own way.

My advice is to combinate 3 roms with 3 kernels
Roms:
Glazed
SmoothRom
PA
Kernels:
Franco
M-kernel
Bricked
There will be 9 combinations. Flash first combination of your choosing, then install all the apps you will use, then batch back them up with titanium backup.. Then everytime you flash another combination, batch recover all the apps to newly flashed rom.. It'll take 30 mins at most to install all from scratch.. I'd advice you try each for at least 2 days (roms and kernels need to settle) then find the one best fits your needs..
Mine is Glazed + Franco R25 (for 2 days)

I tried PA and it didn't do it for me. I dislike tablet UI and there are still traces of it even if you choose not to use tablet UI. Such as in settings, the main page is hard coded to display dual panel view. You can change it so it doesn't show dual panel in sub menus but it doesn't help me and it's done through DPI changes. There are also going to be blue boxes around the home screens when you move between screens. There is no option to change text color on the lock screen. I've read many good things about PA but those minor UI things bother me to the point that I don't want to use it. I'm not a fan of tablet mode on the 7", but that's just me.
Right now I run xenonHD and is working great for me. Does what I want and haven't noticed any bugs. I use it with Franco kernel.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

I have to say Ive been looking at the ROMS on offer and having a hard time making a decision which one to pick. Usually I dont have any bother but with this tablet I still cant decide. I guess we are spoilt for choice lol

[Q] What ROM are you using and why, and how often do you change?

I'm a new Android user and loving all of the options out there in terms of Kernels, ROMS, etc, but I find myself being overwhelmed with all of the options out there. So far I'm pretty set with running franco Kernel (running r20 right now), but I find myself always wanting to try out new ROMs, and I'm hoping that doing all of this switching around isn't going to mess up my device but I just can't nail myself down to a ROM that I'm set with.
I had been running CM 10.1 nightlies, but just recently a couple of days ago I jumped over to MiNCO because of the support for franco Kernel.
Now I find myself looking at the Xylon ROM but am worried that jumping around from ROM to ROM is going to mess with my device.
What ROMs are you guys using, and why are you using them? I find myself that the most important factors for me are battery life/performance, quick toggles, and the power menu.

I havean EVO 4G LTE .. ever since i got the o.g. EVO I was hooked on them. But I use a stock with goodies Rom by flex. Its a great rom has everything I need and its super smooth
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I generally stick to CyanogenMod. I keep an eye on the changelog and flash new nightlies when things I want are merged.
I've messed with AOKP and MIUI in the past but they're not really for me.

Cyanogenmod 10.1 Jellybro because it has everything I need and is clean code (no dirty hacks). Used to be a fan of aokp but too many dirty code and unicorns for me.
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zephiK said:
clean code (no dirty hacks).
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cm is my favourite rom, but thats not really the truth what you say. in order to stuff in tons of devices that normally do not run aosp they have to stretch the base wide open with hacks. this is the hackiest rom in the android scene and it must be, otherwise people out there wouldnt know what android is. thats why cm traditionally never had so much traction on this plattform than on others, simply because uncompromised aosp is leaner and more optimized for android itself and the nexus plattform. on a legacy device i'd always suggest cm, thats obvious. on nexus cm may not be the obvious best choice anymore, because the others are likely faster, more stable, have less daily fallouts, and in some cases have more features, like aokp, if youre the kind of guy that likes that sort of thing. if i flash cm here, its because i like their creative/inventive spirit and would like to support the project overall. flashing is easy though, trying out a couple of em isn't that much of a problem. (-:

Paranoid android. Not even considered any other ROM since I flashed this one. Its just so amazing. I couldn't live without all the colours that change per app, and all the other features it has.
I suggest trying it out now.
Sent from my Nexus 4.

With my previous device, s2, I changed a lot, from RR to AOKP to CM etc etc, I like them all.
On my N4, I'm using stock until a really good-good ROM comes out, I don't have any problems, other than battery, so I don't panic, YET.

calanizzle said:
With my previous device, s2, I changed a lot, from RR to AOKP to CM etc etc, I like them all.
On my N4, I'm using stock until a really good-good ROM comes out, I don't have any problems, other than battery, so I don't panic, YET.
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Yeah other than battery issues everything else is a "nice to have" and nothing I "absolutely need"

I've been on xylon w matrix kernel
For battery customization and speed.
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For me its PA rom....Ive tried every rom because I love flashing lol....but this is an honest opinion from experience....I know best rom talk is not allowed but the best to me is PA rom because of one simple reason....other than stock...its perfect!!!! And with that being said I have No issues with it very stable..super fast...alot of features man I can go on and on....if you want your N4 running perfect go PA...there are some other good roms because we have alot of elite devs in here and im sure more are on the way...but to me theres nothing better than super wiping your phone just to make sure its really clean and flashing PA...all you can say is wow after that lol......and now I change roms everytime Moles and his crew update PA....and also flash Franco kernel with this and your N4 will be excellent....

I'm currently on liquidsmooth. I've tried rasbeanjelly, Xylon, codefirex, CM 10.1, MinCo and a few others I can't remember. All were great. I'm really like liquidsmooth. It's a great balance. I flash, sometimes 3 times a day.

Setup: Code FireX w/ Faux beta
CFX is the first non-stock ROM that I decided to try because it uses the Linaro chain and I was pretty curious about the speed.
Long story short, CFX's performance is apparent as soon as you start using the device, it had much needed improvements.
Oh, and did I mention the CFX settings? Synegye's special built in mods allow you to improve your experience even more. For instance I decided to use the 6 signal Wi-Fi/Network, center clock, smaller Nav Bar, as well as dual view. This package, when combined with Faux's kernel presents you with an unbeatable experience on the best Android experience to date.​

Ace42 said:
Setup: Code FireX w/ Faux beta
CFX is the first non-stock ROM that I decided to try because it uses the Linaro chain and I was pretty curious about the speed.
Long story short, CFX's performance is apparent as soon as you start using the device, it had much needed improvements.
Oh, and did I mention the CFX settings? Synegye's special built in mods allow you to improve your experience even more. For instance I decided to use the 6 signal Wi-Fi/Network, center clock, smaller Nav Bar, as well as dual view. This package, when combined with Faux's kernel presents you with an unbeatable experience on the best Android experience to date.​
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That sounds pretty intriguing, I think I just found the next ROM that is going to get flashed on my N4.

Nice discussion. Very interesting.
via Google Nexus 4

For reliability and just the right amount of mods for me it's been CM on any device I've owned 90% of the time. It's the least buggy for me, although of course, there will be the occasional bug along the way. Works beautifully on the the Nexus, although some mods may take longer to merge as other devices have to be taken into account.
Can't think of any "hacks" needed for CM to run on any Nexus, although much hackage needed for it to run on Samsung branded phones, and any other manufacturer that doesn't ship with AOSP and may be slow to release source. The kernel for the GN was less than impressive, but the N4 kernel is great.

Running stock rooted. Going CM 10.1 as soon as I get back home from vacation.
Skickat från min Galaxy Nexus

Stock with Franco kernel and you got the most stable combo ever seriously though. Feels very snappy while battery is great but also is really stable.
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I am flashing between a number of Roms daily. Change between cm 10.1, aokp, paranoid, slimbean, codefire. Currently on paranoid b9. I love the options we have on the nexus. It would be a lot less hassle for me if I don't have to restore my texts everytime. Still I pretty much flash a different ROM daily

kyokeun1234 said:
Stock with Franco kernel and you got the most stable combo ever seriously though. Feels very snappy while battery is great but also is really stable.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
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+1 for stock with Franco.
No stable (official stable) roms out there yet that I like, and since n4 is my primary phone, I need my stability :/.
Probably will switch over to AOKP milestone or CM stable.

On past devices I've run with CyanogenMod (any variation), but on the Nexus line I tend to prefer staying with a stock ROM and a custom kernel (though I'm stock presently) for the sake of cleanliness. CyanogenMod is great, it's built by trusted developers, and all around well known for their great reputation. On the flip side, I tend to stay stock because I need to help other people out often enough that I start to forget which features were added by the CM team and which come with Android itself.

Wich ROM(s) are the best for nexus 4

Hi, recently I just got a nexus 4. Some time ago I use to had a optimus black and in their own forum there is a few ROMs. In the other hand here, OMG there is a lot of ROMs and I just dont know wich is the best combination between kernel, ROM, or maybe there are 2 or 3 great ROMs, etc...
I just dont know anything talking about ROMs for Nexus 4. Can some one help me a little bit in order to see 1,2 or 3 ROMs and I can make my choice?

ocovarr112 said:
Hi, recently I just got a nexus 4. Some time ago I use to had a optimus black and in their own forum there is a few ROMs. In the other hand here, OMG there is a lot of ROMs and I just dont know wich is the best combination between kernel, ROM, or maybe there are 2 or 3 great ROMs, etc...
I just dont know anything talking about ROMs for Nexus 4. Can some one help me a little bit in order to see 1,2 or 3 ROMs and I can make my choice?
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Stock 4.2.2 (rooted if you're into that). Nothing can beat the stability of pure android. Amazing battery life on the stock kernel as well (I can easily squeeze out 4 hours of screen on each day on mobile data).
If you're more after features, CM10 has always been more reliable for me than AOKP. Once again, stock kernel is great for performance/battery life.
AOKP if full of features that most people have no need for. But it's nice to have, I guess. Always has been the buggiest for me though, so I tend to stay away from it.
As I said before, nothing beats stock in terms of stability.

KiNG OMaR said:
Stock 4.2.2 (rooted if you're into that). Nothing can beat the stability of pure android. Amazing battery life on the stock kernel as well (I can easily squeeze out 4 hours of screen on each day on mobile data).
If you're more after features, CM10 has always been more reliable for me than AOKP. Once again, stock kernel is great for performance/battery life.
AOKP if full of features that most people have no need for. But it's nice to have, I guess. Always has been the buggiest for me though, so I tend to stay away from it.
As I said before, nothing beats stock in terms of stability.
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Thanks for your recomendation, since I got this device I knew that it will be the most pure android system and as your thoughts I also do not think it was neccesary to change to any ROM. Thanks for your answer it is a lot of help for me.
Just one more question, why do you reccomend me to put root in my device, can you give me some examples it will be usefull?

ocovarr112 said:
Thanks for your recomendation, since I got this device I knew that it will be the most pure android system and as your thoughts I also do not think it was neccesary to change to any ROM. Thanks for your answer it is a lot of help for me.
Just one more question, why do you reccomend me to put root in my device, can you give me some examples it will be usefull?
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For Ad blockers, Titanium backup and restore for user apps and data, color control, custom bootanimations (also requires custom recovery) etc etc

Nexus 10 is laggy...

Hi together!
I own my Nexus 10 since March 2013. Everything worked fine for me (i was always on the latest Stock Rom - did no reset etc.).
Well, by the time i noticed that the nexus has become a bit slow and laggy. Especially since I got a Nexus 5 which is just fast without any lag since christmas last year. Everything is also on stock there...
Last week I had enough and I did a factory reset. Well, compared to the Nexus 5 it still feels laggy. Every click takes a some time before something happens. It's not that bad that I couldn't use it, but it is a bit disturbing.
Main question 1: Guys, am i just confused because my Nexus 5 is that smooth, or is the Nexus 10 just simply old and too weak for KitKat.
I know, i could use some custom roms. But i am totaly ok with the Stock rom. I like it, as it is! So i don't urgently need a custom rom.
Main question 2: What possibilities do I have, to make the stock rom a little bit more smooth?
Thanks for your tips!

I've noticed that the performance seems to have slipped a bit since KitKat. Maybe its just me, but some of the 4.2.2 ROMs here were very smooth (though they are sadly discontinued now). There are still a handful of solid roms for kitkat. I haven't been on a stock ROM since the day I bought my Nexus 10 so I can't comment on stock.
You sound pretty firm about not flashing a custom ROM but I would urge you to reconsider for the boost in performance--not to mention added features. Aside from that you could try a custom kernel or various tweaks. There are some mods here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking that add a little boost through scripts like zipalign, better memory management, etc. That's about all you can do.

brGabriel said:
I've noticed that the performance seems to have slipped a bit since KitKat. Maybe its just me, but some of the 4.2.2 ROMs here were very smooth (though they are sadly discontinued now). There are still a handful of solid roms for kitkat. I haven't been on a stock ROM since the day I bought my Nexus 10 so I can't comment on stock.
You sound pretty firm about not flashing a custom ROM but I would urge you to reconsider for the boost in performance--not to mention added features. Aside from that you could try a custom kernel or various tweaks. There are some mods here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking that add a little boost through scripts like zipalign, better memory management, etc. That's about all you can do.
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I agree with ^^^^^^. Custom roms + overclock would be your best friend for an aging device. When you are used to the speed of a faster device like the nexus 5, the nexus 10 will just naturally feel slower (which it is). There is really not much you can do if you insist on staying stock. For me, I'm using mrrobinson's 4.3.1 buttered AOKP with Manta kernel, OC CPU to 1900mhz, set touchboost to cpu 1500mhz and gpu 533mhz. The device feels noticeably faster than stock, but of course it will never be as smooth/fast as your nexus 5.

Hi!
Thanks for your answers and for the confirmation of my perception.
I just don't have the time for testing so many roms, but maybe i will try one or two...
I also thought maybe I could change the CPU Govenor of Stock or Overclock it...
Well, however - it's a two year old device - that's tech live!

guitargod said:
Hi!
Thanks for your answers and for the confirmation of my perception.
I just don't have the time for testing so many roms, but maybe i will try one or two...
I also thought maybe I could change the CPU Govenor of Stock or Overclock it...
Well, however - it's a two year old device - that's tech live!
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I run 4.4.4 on my N10 with no appreciable amount of lag.
I run Slim Rom.
I don't overclock, mod kernels, etc.
This tablet doesn't need any of that.
I do run Greenify, Ad Away, and Autostarts. This keeps my tablet as snappy as the day I loaded the ROM.
Run any ROM for a while and it starts to lag. Root allows you to correct the issue.

I find it really lags when apps are updating, or when restoring apps. I never considered my Note 2 fast but it handles all of these tasks with barely a whimper. Guess # of cores is important.
Its time for a new tablet soon, but not really sure what I'm going to go with. I want to get away from Samsung's physical/capacitive buttons, but also want high res and speed.

Holy crap mine started lagging out of the blue about a week ago. I'm going to take this as a sign that a new nexus 10 is coming and google wants us to upgrade!

My Nexus 5 has really spoiled me as far as smoothness. I'm on slimkat on my Nexus 10 but I'll be trying a 4.2.2 rom to see if there is a difference as some threads around here say.

As far as KitKat Roms go, I find Liquidsmooth to be very snappy (however the YouTube app crashes are a deal breaker for making it my daily driver )
Probably the smoothest ROM I've ever run was Sabermod 4.2.2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292927
Also the early Eos 4.2.2 ROMs were really good too. They also had tablet mode or left-aligned navigation buttons.
There are plenty other good ones but that's just my two cents.

My advice would be to run the 'performance' CPU scheduler, which locks the CPU at 1.7ghz. Makes quite a big difference, and the impact on battery life is minor. :good:

I've installed AOKP 4.3.3 and so far it's way smoother than KK. In going to try Eos 4.2.2 and see how it does.

The nexus 10 is not too weak for kitkat
I find that Nexus 10 on KitKat with a custom rom and kernel runs very smooth and fluid (at least as fluid as nexus 4 which is very good).
Personally I run official Omnirom 4.4.4 with franco kernel r16. I have also flashed bionic and dalvik optimized libraries which are actually intended for qualcomm devices - but by some magic work well on my nexus 10 and improve performance in benchmarks by as much as 20%! And browser and interface feels much smoother after flashing these library patches.
You can download them in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/mod-dalvik-bionic-library-optimization-t2537299
I flashed the Z2 bionic and the Moto X 4.4.2 dalvik files. (They work on 4.4.4). Flash patches before flashing custom kernel. (download 4.4.4 KTU84P stock library also and flash in case you get a bootloop after flashing the optimized libraries)

Best ROM for Nexus 7 2013

im getting the Nexus 7 from Google (7-Inch, 16 GB, Black) by ASUS (2013) Tablet
model #: NEXUS7 ASUS-2B16
i will be purchasing off amazon this week and was wondering in terms of: Stability, Performance/Battery, and customizations, which ROM is best for me?
i have been absent to the rooting/flashing scene since my galaxy s2 days, so please bare with me. i think i was using cyno or something back then lol.

There are a lot too choose from all good in various ways. I like dirty unicorns and liquid smooth.

andyskelly said:
There are a lot too choose from all good in various ways. I like dirty unicorns and liquid smooth.
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thanks for the reply, i will look into both.. lmfao dirty unicorns

I like stock because it's stable, unlike most custom ROMs.

I'm running Exodus with no complaints. Smooth, problem free so far.

Stock.
Seriously though, no disrespect to all our great devs, but I haven't really felt much need to change much of anything from stock since Kit Kat came out. I used to use Xposed to change a few things here and there, but gave that up for the increased performance of the ART runtime once Kit Kat dropped. Stock Android is really great these days, and personally it's the main draw of a Nexus device. Properly optimized software released on or even ahead of Google's announcements, with the ability to build it easily yourself and restore your device from whatever shenanigans you've gotten it into; that's the Nexus experience.
That being said, I really enjoy optimizing performance as much as possible. A great rom for that is Flonaro, which is stock that's been optimized by building with the Linaro toolchain. Doing this properly is a challenge, but this is one that does it justice. Also, there are a ton of great kernels to choose from to take performance and often battery life to the next level. Franco kernel is awesome and I'm eagerly awaiting a Lollipop release. Check out ElementalX and Glitch kernel as well, flar2 and TK-Glitch are awesome devs that really pay attention to the users, and their kernels offer a ton of customization to balance performance and stamina. Just make sure you use only AOSP kernels on AOSP roms, there are alot of CAF-based roms and kernels as well (often referred to as CM variants, since CM clones Qualcomm's Code Aurora Forums repo rather than using pure AOSP as their base). Mixing a rom and kernel from these 2 different bases will not yield great results.
Welcome to the world of Flo!

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im getting the Nexus 7 from Google (7-Inch, 16 GB, Black) by ASUS (2013) Tablet
model #: NEXUS7 ASUS-2B16
i will be purchasing off amazon this week and was wondering in terms of: Stability, Performance/Battery, and customizations, which ROM is best for me?
i have been absent to the rooting/flashing scene since my galaxy s2 days, so please bare with me. i think i was using cyno or something back then lol.
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As a Nexus Device ,Nexus 7 (2013) got so many options..I use Clean ROM (Stock ROM with lot of performance optimizations) & Paranoid Android (Mostly Stable).As You Know about Custom ROMS,I would suggest you try each ROM by using MultiROM Manager from Playstore..This App helps You to install any number of ROMS simultaneously.
I suggest You to try Paranoid Android as it has some good features without compromising on Performance
Xposed Framework is an awesome Tool which brings a lots of customizations of Custom ROMs in Stock Android.Also Check the XDA developer page of Nexus 7 (2013) to find more ROMS info

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Actually most custom roms is solid nowadays.
Mine N7 has been on PA for three months and never goes wrong.

Cruiserdude said:
Stock.
Seriously though, no disrespect to all our great devs, but I haven't really felt much need to change much of anything from stock since Kit Kat came out. I used to use Xposed to change a few things here and there, but gave that up for the increased performance of the ART runtime once Kit Kat dropped. Stock Android is really great these days, and personally it's the main draw of a Nexus device. Properly optimized software released on or even ahead of Google's announcements, with the ability to build it easily yourself and restore your device from whatever shenanigans you've gotten it into; that's the Nexus experience.
That being said, I really enjoy optimizing performance as much as possible. A great rom for that is Flonaro, which is stock that's been optimized by building with the Linaro toolchain. Doing this properly is a challenge, but this is one that does it justice. Also, there are a ton of great kernels to choose from to take performance and often battery life to the next level. Franco kernel is awesome and I'm eagerly awaiting a Lollipop release. Check out ElementalX and Glitch kernel as well, flar2 and TK-Glitch are awesome devs that really pay attention to the users, and their kernels offer a ton of customization to balance performance and stamina. Just make sure you use only AOSP kernels on AOSP roms, there are alot of CAF-based roms and kernels as well (often referred to as CM variants, since CM clones Qualcomm's Code Aurora Forums repo rather than using pure AOSP as their base). Mixing a rom and kernel from these 2 different bases will not yield great results.
Welcome to the world of Flo!
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Ty! will definitely take some time next weekend do do some tinkering.. i may go for now just clean rom/paranoid till i get re-educated on kernels ect.. its been nearly 4-5 years now since ive done this so appreciate the responses!

Yes I have got multirom installed. Stock as primary and cm11 and lollipop as secondary

Asap 4bra said:
im getting the Nexus 7 from Google (7-Inch, 16 GB, Black) by ASUS (2013) Tablet
model #: NEXUS7 ASUS-2B16
i will be purchasing off amazon this week and was wondering in terms of: Stability, Performance/Battery, and customizations, which ROM is best for me?
i have been absent to the rooting/flashing scene since my galaxy s2 days, so please bare with me. i think i was using cyno or something back then lol.
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I have had very good results with CleanROM 3.8 and right now I'm testing the AOSP 5.0 by the same developer
[ROM][10/4][4.4.4]- CleanROM 3.8.0 -+| Performance Tuned! | Clean! | Stable!|+
[ROM / Build Guide][11/17][Flo/Deb] - Pure AOSP 5.0.0_r7 Build LRX21T
give em a try...

paultbear said:
I have had very good results with CleanROM 3.8 and right now I'm testing the AOSP 5.0 by the same developer
[ROM][10/4][4.4.4]- CleanROM 3.8.0 -+| Performance Tuned! | Clean! | Stable!|+
[ROM / Build Guide][11/17][Flo/Deb] - Pure AOSP 5.0.0_r7 Build LRX21T
give em a try...
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thanks bon!

I really can't recommend enough Mahdi with Glitch 226 AOSP kernel

Been running paranoid android on my nex7 for a year and a half now without any issues. Stable as can be. Use Franco's kernel for extra stability and you're all set. Either that or stick to stock lollipop. Can't really go wrong with either of those options.
Sent from my Nexus 7

Agreed
andyskelly said:
There are a lot too choose from all good in various ways. I like dirty unicorns and liquid smooth.
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These are my favorites.
1. Liquid Smooth
2. Dirty Unicorns
Running KitKat + ElementalX AOSP (2.15) kernel.
Note: 3.xx ElementalX kernels are for Lollipop, so don't use them with KitKat.

There is no best Rom. Usually these threads are closed pretty quickly.
I'm surprised it's still here.

mindmajick said:
There is no best Rom. Usually these threads are closed pretty quickly.
I'm surprised it's still here.
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What can i say. Us Mods are only human, and even threads like this may slip through our keen grasp.
That said, what Mind says is right. There is no "best" ROM. Each is different; some adds customization, some focus on speed. There is no singular ROM that does it all. The best advice, is to try a few, and see which floats your boat, and go from there...