First and foremost I have minimal background in software developement.
I'm very visually oriented and hands on as well.. I do best with being shown what to do and then giving it a hand and seeing what it is that I can tinker around to change.
My education was minimal and far back and the career choices I made took me into a undergrond world where I had to develop and become like particular people who plague and hold our country back.
My communication skills have suffered drastically and certain definition in my normal vocabulary are not what most peoples are so there is simply a level of misconceptions, confusing understanding, and wrong impressions that would be on both ends if any one dares to help me.. (lol)
I'm looking into writing applications.. I have a Hero.. the SDK.. Eclipse classic.. AVD set up (But just realized how easily any thing i do goes straight to my phone while plugged in)
I watched a couple of youtube demos to get things set up..
I'm looking into some more and have just come across some samples and am doing a little bit..
Does anyone know of any video examples or written tutorials that will better show me how to modify some of these samples sources to get varying out puts..
The videos I keep coming across seem extraordinarly long and I'm looking to get straight to some points of seeing things that shows me like modify this and see this result.
Thanks in advance.
Learning to code takes time and there are no shortcuts.
"Don't try to run if you have not yet learnt how to walk." - Albert Einstein.
It would just be nice to learn from the right point.
Thanks for the quote, I love quotes.
When I get home I need to learn how to install this apidemo from the sample programs... I ran it from eclipse... I'm surprised to see something in my widgets from the test run.
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Found this apk while scouring the Adobe Blogs:
http://coenraets.org/blog/2010/05/sample-application-using-flex-and-air-for-android/
Looks very cool. Can't wait to see what comes out of this after the announcement of public prerelease of the air for developers.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, air allows devs to write software in air's code and its then capable of use on various platforms...Is this the main use of adobe air? So devs don't have to write programs separately for each platform....
Yes I think so.
DMaverick50 said:
Please correct me if I'm wrong, air allows devs to write software in air's code and its then capable of use on various platforms...Is this the main use of adobe air? So devs don't have to write programs separately for each platform....
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Pretty much it in a nutshell. If you look at the AIR applications available for desktops then potentially these may be able to be ported to Android without much effort.
The applications for Android should rocket and the diversity of what can be run on the system increased too.
Flash based games are probably going to be high up the list for most devs I suspect. Did you try the sample?
It's pretty interesting. The videos of the possibilities are inspiring too.
+1 for all the possibilities that AIR now brings to the Android dev scene
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+100 to Christophe for using The Office as his test database.
Good to see Kelly Kapoor, Michael Scott and Angela on there
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karthikjr said:
+1 for all the possibilities that AIR now brings to the Android dev scene
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+100 to Christophe for using The Office as his test database.
Good to see Kelly Kapoor, Michael Scott and Angela on there
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Yeah , really cool little app. Pretty funny seeing The Office characters in it.
I got a game I made called Spate running using AIR, the performance is better than I expected from a phone but the game is unplayable as the boxes become like 4mm wide when shrunk down to a mobile screen size
eedok said:
I got a game I made called Spate running using AIR, the performance is better than I expected from a phone but the game is unplayable as the boxes become like 4mm wide when shrunk down to a mobile screen size
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Post the apk so we can have a play. How much work do you need to do to modify it to work on the smaller screen?
Here's the web version:
hxxp://geekswhoshower.com/webgame/8
and here's the apk (requires the AIR runtime from the link in the OP):
hxxp://dl.dropbox.com/u/168938/Spate.apk
The biggest issue with resizing the game is I contracted out the artwork for the game, and it was a one time contract so I'd have to contract out the art again, and the high scores were a third party library that doesn't work with AIR, so I'd have to code one of those too. Plus I have a bunch of other projects going so this was more of a see if I can do it more than anything, and it's exciting how easily the game ported over, and how well it runs.
EDIT: not mod approved so I can't post links, change the xx's to tt's
Quite a good little game. It runs fairly well until the pot fills up and there are a lot of objects on screen.
It would be nice if it could run in portrait too.
I suppose it depends how much effort and cost is involved from your consultants to see what you could launch on Android Market.
Stick it out there for 59p and see what happens.
markouk said:
Pretty much it in a nutshell. If you look at the AIR applications available for desktops then potentially these may be able to be ported to Android without much effort.
The applications for Android should rocket and the diversity of what can be run on the system increased too.
Flash based games are probably going to be high up the list for most devs I suspect. Did you try the sample?
It's pretty interesting. The videos of the possibilities are inspiring too.
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Just to be explicit, so people can create Android applications without writing even a single line of Android code?
I've tried dabbling with Android coding, but the framework-specific stuff frustrates me.
Paul22000 said:
Just to be explicit, so people can create Android applications without writing even a single line of Android code?
I've tried dabbling with Android coding, but the framework-specific stuff frustrates me.
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This is true, that version of Spate was made without adding any new code, so if you know how to make flash applications it's pretty easy to turn them into android apps with this
hate to make a thread so broad, but i havent shown my nook simple touch any love lately. tbh, i don't even remember what rom i have running on it at the moment, lmao.
in all honesty, i feel like there's a lot of good stuff for our device, but it's all scattered around, making it really tricky to know whats the latest and greatest, and whats outdated.
if someone could shed some light on whats the latest "greatest" rom to use, where is the nofresh app (?) and/or multitouch mod, i'd be pretty grateful.
thanks!
I've been trying some 4.3 roms and they seem a little more smooth and fluid, but I can't see alot of differences. I was also not able to utilize any add blocking, which is important to me. I may have been doing something wrong, but it didn't work. Yhe battery seemed about the same, but I honestly switched roms a couple times before I could really get a true test. Any opinions on why this version may be better?
You're not going to see a huge difference. Add blockers should work the same on either
One of the differences is the addition of trim support. Type that up in google and get an idea of how that helps (not sarcastic).
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One of the differences is the addition of trim support. Type that up in google and get an idea of how that helps (not sarcastic).
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That is a nice feature. I'm rarely on a Rom long enough to do too much damage, but when I find a keeper I'll keep it for awhile. Thanks. I would have not known that before. ANyone intersted here is a link about TRIM. http://pocketnow.com/2013/08/06/android-trim-support
Bit of background....
Was never much a fan of android and had just about every iphone from day dot right up until the iphone 5.
I'd Jailbroke all the way through with each device, a lot of tweaks, modding etc.
Started to get very bored of the whole iphone thing but ended up losing it anyway (left it on a train)
That's what made me think, why not try something different? So claimed on my insurance and went for a Galaxy S3.
NEVER MISSED MY IPHONE ONCE. How android has improved over the years.
Loved the functionality of the S3, although not the build so much. Had it rooted with CM, gravity box, adaway and that was me happy.
Was very excited to wait for the M8 and upgraded as soon as it came out, wasn't disappointed, LOVE IT!
Fantastic build quality, great looks, great spec. Could hardly fault it anywhere.
Decided to jump in and root it to get some of my favourite things.... That's where my disappointment began
Unlike the Samsung, everything seems really difficult to achieve, some things impossible.
Unlocking the boot loader is a fairly long process but it was fairly straight forward... Job done
Rooting, fairly straight forward... Job done
HERES WHERE THE NOT SO FUN PARTS STARTS...
Adaway, kinda works but not. Keep having problems with it being disabled on boot up and not being able to copy host files
From my research it seems to be a problem with s-off not being active although I'm not sure?
Tried the s-off process and at the end was told it won't work on my device, no one seems to know exactly why?
Another app I wanted was gsam battery, again... Kinda works but not. Standard stats work but more advanced won't.
Tried the root companion, can't get that to work at all.
Something else I really wanted was gravity box through xposed. That won't work with sense.
In order to get that I believe I have to flash another rom that dos'nt have sense, think that only leaves the google play edition rom?
That I believe also loses me blinkfeed and ultra power saver which are both pretty good.
Not sure if I need s-off for that, if I do I can't get it anyway
May main reason for root was for gravity box and adaway, one of which I kinda have and one I don't have at all.
So overall, very disappointed now
Just thought I'd share my experience as it might help others decide on purchase choices.
Also if anyone has any tips to get around my issues I'd really appreciate it
its for those reasons i now leave my phones stock. i used to customise my windows phones to get them to work but since switching to android i just use them and update the stock software when they become available. i also have an m8 and i have only installed gsam, chrome and epson printer apps. that is all i have needed so far. i seem to be able to do everything i need to do without any more apps installed. i had a htc one x previous and sensation before that and had so much stuff on them that they were litterely full of apps. i will probably end up adding heaps of apps as time goes on but the stock setup on the m8 is very powerful and capable (not to mention fast). i would recommend just installing the stock rom back and use it for a while. is there really any advantage to rooting these anyway.
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its for those reasons i now leave my phones stock. i used to customise my windows phones to get them to work but since switching to android i just use them and update the stock software when they become available. i also have an m8 and i have only installed gsam, chrome and epson printer apps. that is all i have needed so far. i seem to be able to do everything i need to do without any more apps installed. i had a htc one x previous and sensation before that and had so much stuff on them that they were litterely full of apps. i will probably end up adding heaps of apps as time goes on but the stock setup on the m8 is very powerful and capable (not to mention fast). i would recommend just installing the stock rom back and use it for a while. is there really any advantage to rooting these anyway.
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Xposed framework would be a huge advantage to me to get rid of annoying things, some small some not so small.
Even the volume warning really annoys me, there's no way to disable it without xposed working
Also on my s3 I moved the close all apps button to bottom left, much easier for me being a lefty
Hi, ads can be blocked through modified hosts file (you can search how to do that). Have you tried a custom ROM with root already done. I use Venom and have always used adaway, both s-on and s-off with no issues.
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bah77 said:
Bit of background....
Was never much a fan of android and had just about every iphone from day dot right up until the iphone 5.
I'd Jailbroke all the way through with each device, a lot of tweaks, modding etc.
Started to get very bored of the whole iphone thing but ended up losing it anyway (left it on a train)
That's what made me think, why not try something different? So claimed on my insurance and went for a Galaxy S3.
NEVER MISSED MY IPHONE ONCE. How android has improved over the years.
Loved the functionality of the S3, although not the build so much. Had it rooted with CM, gravity box, adaway and that was me happy.
Was very excited to wait for the M8 and upgraded as soon as it came out, wasn't disappointed, LOVE IT!
Fantastic build quality, great looks, great spec. Could hardly fault it anywhere.
Decided to jump in and root it to get some of my favourite things.... That's where my disappointment began
Unlike the Samsung, everything seems really difficult to achieve, some things impossible.
Unlocking the boot loader is a fairly long process but it was fairly straight forward... Job done
Rooting, fairly straight forward... Job done
HERES WHERE THE NOT SO FUN PARTS STARTS...
Adaway, kinda works but not. Keep having problems with it being disabled on boot up and not being able to copy host files
From my research it seems to be a problem with s-off not being active although I'm not sure?
Tried the s-off process and at the end was told it won't work on my device, no one seems to know exactly why?
Another app I wanted was gsam battery, again... Kinda works but not. Standard stats work but more advanced won't.
Tried the root companion, can't get that to work at all.
Something else I really wanted was gravity box through xposed. That won't work with sense.
In order to get that I believe I have to flash another rom that dos'nt have sense, think that only leaves the google play edition rom?
That I believe also loses me blinkfeed and ultra power saver which are both pretty good.
Not sure if I need s-off for that, if I do I can't get it anyway
May main reason for root was for gravity box and adaway, one of which I kinda have and one I don't have at all.
So overall, very disappointed now
Just thought I'd share my experience as it might help others decide on purchase choices.
Also if anyone has any tips to get around my issues I'd really appreciate it
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Sorry but i dont understand what problems you actually have or what you done/expect from your phone
Adaway and GSAM battery stats works perfectly on all custom roms for M8 without issues.
And roms like our Viper ONE M8 provides endless customization and tweaking options, can you tell me what can you do with that gravity that you cant in viper rom?
Gravity Box wouldn't work on a Sense based rom anyways. I think the main source of your issues is the lack of research (user error).
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Gravity Box wouldn't work on a Sense based rom anyways. I think the main source of your issues is the lack of research (user error).
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What parts don't? I haven't gone incredibly far into GB, but the NavBar tweaks worked for me and I'm on Viper, a Sense-based Rom.
ivicask said:
Sorry but i dont understand what problems you actually have or what you done/expect from your phone
Adaway and GSAM battery stats works perfectly on all custom roms for M8 without issues.
And roms like our Viper ONE M8 provides endless customization and tweaking options, can you tell me what can you do with that gravity that you cant in viper rom?
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I've been looking at viper actually, considering flashing tonight
I mainly wanted to move the close all apps button to the bottom left rather than top right
Stop the volume warning popping up when increasing volume
Have the pull down go straight into settings rather then having to use 2 fingers
I had all that through gravity box on my s3.
I'm guessing they won't all be on viper but as viper isn't sense gravity box should work anyway, is that right?
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I've been looking at viper actually, considering flashing tonight
I mainly wanted to move the close all apps button to the bottom left rather than top right
Stop the volume warning popping up when increasing volume
Have the pull down go straight into settings rather then having to use 2 fingers
I had all that through gravity box on my s3.
I'm guessing they won't all be on viper but as viper isn't sense gravity box should work anyway, is that right?
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First off: Sense isn't TouchWiz. All features of GravityBox which work on TouchWiz or AOSP wont always work on Sense.
Plus, Sense 6.0 is still VERY fresh and the devs of GB and similar are still looking into what can be done on Sense and what not.
Viper is already heavily customizable and may already feature most of the things you want. Then there is always GPE which replaces Sense with Vanilla Android most GravityBox features will work with - Tho you need to know that some exclusive features like a couple of camera things, dot view etc wont work as extensive as on Sense anymore.
Its all a matter of what you really need and what you really wanna do. I for one prefer to stick to Sense which is mostly stock (InsertCoin) with some customizable settings - keeps the system cleaner and snappier IMO.
You decide :good:
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First off: Sense isn't TouchWiz. All features of GravityBox which work on TouchWiz or AOSP wont always work on Sense.
Plus, Sense 6.0 is still VERY fresh and the devs of GB and similar are still looking into what can be done on Sense and what not.
Viper is already heavily customizable and may already feature most of the things you want. Then there is always GPE which replaces Sense with Vanilla Android most GravityBox features will work with - Tho you need to know that some exclusive features like a couple of camera things, dot view etc wont work as extensive as on Sense anymore.
Its all a matter of what you really need and what you really wanna do. I for one prefer to stick to Sense which is mostly stock (InsertCoin) with some customizable settings - keeps the system cleaner and snappier IMO.
You decide :good:
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Many thanks for the response, I will have a look into the different roms more over the weekend
I guess I was too naive, only on my 2nd ever android phone and that's from a hell of a lot of phones I've owned in the past
I guess I was thinking along the lines of a one android fits all but that's quite clearly not the case, there are lots of differences between one android phone to another
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Many thanks for the response, I will have a look into the different roms more over the weekend
I guess I was too naive, only on my 2nd ever android phone and that's from a hell of a lot of phones I've owned in the past
I guess I was thinking along the lines of a one android fits all but that's quite clearly not the case, there are lots of differences between one android phone to another
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Hehe well yeah, every Android phone can be quite different to each other. Its with the hardware already. On the iDevices, its all streamlined and almost everything will work on the different iPhones. Its convenient, but nothing for me - I am a modder and toy around alot, and thats where Android kicks in.
Some things on Android can be annoying, since there are much more differences in Hardware and Software among all the devices running Android, but it actually can be quite interesting to see what all the talented Android Developers come up with.
I hope you find what you are looking for. The M8 is a hell of a great device and dispite of being so new, alot of customizations are already possible.
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Gravity Box wouldn't work on a Sense based rom anyways. I think the main source of your issues is the lack of research (user error).
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Wrong, working just great with my SENSE rom.
Thread closed as it is an off-topic thread.
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