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I have my gtab running touchwiz with the 1.4 overclock.
Problem is video playback is not totally smooth. Its watchable, its not horrible, but it definitely does not look like watching same videos on my laptop or through my ps3 hooked up to my tv. These are avi files.
I have tried the stock video player and Mobo. Arc player does not work yet it seems with honeycomb.
Anyone have any thoughts on this? Anybody use a different player that works better.
Dice Player has hardware acceleration and many people think its the best player.
Yeah, try the Dice Player Trial if you like it purchase like me! best video player! Hands down!
Hello !
Yesterday I was very much surprised when I downloaded all mp4 HD video from my SGS2 to the TAb and neither file couldn't be played on stock player. After hours of rush in the Internet I tryied almost all other known players but the bext I achieved was slow motion video in dice player. What is your expereience? Did anybody run smoothly HD videos on his device?
720p is fine. 1080p is not. You can grab bsplayer free from the market, very nice player.
I believe the only hardware accelerated codec is H264 so any video not in that format would have issues with 1080p. I personally played a 720p Xvid, over the network, using MX Player last night. DICE had speed problems with it.
In my experience DICE is better for MKV and MX is better for AVI etc.
there's discussions and recommendations about this in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1306457
If there is any app that would do it if the hardware was up to spec it would be Dice Player. It eats all my 720p MKV's for breakfast but still can't do 1080p.
Does anyone know if the 7.7" version plays back 720p MKV without any problems?
I have the original 7.0", and it plays 720p MKV perfect!
I also have a 10.1", but that one is struggling with 720p MKV in stock and other players. (on both HC3.1 and 3.2). Apparently the Tetra2 is not ideal for this...
This is my only deal-breaker for the 7.7.
Would really appreciate your feedback!
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Apparently the Tetra2 is not ideal for this...
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Because they forgot to implement the NEON chipset!
1080p/720p mkv's shouldn't be a problem on the 7.7 with MX Player or DICE.
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Nope, no problem at all.
It can play 1080p, 8 bit , high bitrate movie with hardware decoding just fine( use mxvideoplayer with arm7 neon codec)
No problems playing 720p mkvs. Heck I can even play 10-bit 720p anime files using MX Player in SW mode. You'll notice a very slight fps drop during panning scenes and such but audio, video, and subs still stay in sync so it's quite watchable. Heard once you get ICS you will be able to take advantage of HW mode on all videos, even 10-bit.
Guys im looking for an app that can play mkv file, which one do u prefer? With hardware acceleration
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Guys im looking for an app that can play mkv file, which one do u prefer? With hardware acceleration
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Mxvideoplayer can play mkv 1080p video with H/W , though it only works with 8-bit video, not 10-bit profile.
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Mxvideoplayer can play mkv 1080p video with H/W , though it only works with 8-bit video, not 10-bit profile.
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how can i check my video is 8 or 10 bit?
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how can i check my video is 8 or 10 bit?
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You can check it by going to the video properties on your preferred video player on your pc,im pretty sure most mkv files are 8 bit.
is the 8bit restriction a limitation of the hardware, or of the (mxvideo)player?
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is the 8bit restriction a limitation of the hardware, or of the (mxvideo)player?
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Im not really sure about that but whenever i tried to play 10 bit mkv video on mxvideoplayer with hardware decoding, it gave me a black screen.
Dice
You might want to try Dice player as well, i had loads of mkv rips that would not play audio on other players but dice has never failed me on mkv's
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You might want to try Dice player as well, i had loads of mkv rips that would not play audio on other players but dice has never failed me on mkv's
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I tried dice player it doesnt work. so far mxvideoplayer, dice player and moboplayer doesnt work for 10 bit mkv with H/W.
I'm not sure if there are any players that can play 10bit files at the moment. For general mkv's I've been using Dice Player as it has been able to play all my files on my Asus transformer which other players weren't able to. But since the exynos processor is far superior to the tegra2 I would think any player that has hardware accelerated playback will suffice.
Most recently I've been using BS player as well for playing mkv's stored on my NAS streamed over wifi. This is the only player that seems to be able to play 720p video smoothly over wifi.
Stock Samsung player can't play MKV like Galaxy S and Galaxy SII?!? It's the best HW player for my SII...
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I use MoboPlayer, it can play almost video formats well.
But I also got aneesoft video converter to help me do some conversions when need, and it let me to play HD, and AVCHD videos that shot by HD camcorder smoothly.
Aneesoft? Never heard of that. I'm looking for a .mov converter as the tablet converter had trouble with my .mov files.
Is that the best converter out there?
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Aneesoft? Never heard of that. I'm looking for a .mov converter as the tablet converter had trouble with my .mov files.
Is that the best converter out there?
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Well, aneesoft video converter can convert the .MOV video well for my tablet, it has a special output selection for tablet, so you just need to choose your tablet model as output.
I'll echo the mx player recommendation; I like its rendering options and subtitle support among other things. Lack of hi10p support is a hardware limitation. Video with 10-bit color profiles is just too new and (at least afaik) isn't supported by any current hardware. And of course mobile cpus lack the compute muscle to decode decent-quality x.264 smoothly. So as others have said, transcoding on your computer is your best bet. If you don't know anything about video encoding, try http://hi10ptranscoder.wordpress.com/. It's a simple program for this exact problem.
For me Dice-player had stuttering every 10 secs on some .mkv-files. The stock player doesn't stutter, but it also doesn't support movies with DTS-sound.
MX Player seems to work the best and it also has an option for SW-decoding the sound if a file has DTS-sound. (Have to change it from the default HW-decoding to hear sound.)
No need to worry about 8 or 10 bit - there are NO rips with 10bit of any movies, 720p, 1080p - all are OK...EXCEPT some crazy anime, seen them - I really don't get this 10 bit hype - just some ultra-grainy stuff...
Stock video player can play MKV smoothly , why bother to use another player ?
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Stock video player can play MKV smoothly , why bother to use another player ?
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Stock player doesnt play audio if the mkv contains DTS track.
MX Video player for me is the best. Without chainging the H/W decoding i just selecting the DTS audio track and plays it perfect.
I have done tests with heavy mkc samples with 20-40MBPS with DTS sound and it plays it so smooth. Smoother than my expensive O2 HMR-2000!
My oldest Galaxy S2 plays them perfect too but with same samples i have some frame drops some times even if i have it at 1.6GHz.
It seems tab 7.7 doesnt have excactly the same cpu/gpu. At papers it is the same. But not in real life. Maybe the memory or the controler or the chipset or the architecture? I dont know.
It plays PERFECT any mkv with DTS and it is an great media player. The only problem is to read NTFS HDD's. Because the fullHD / full length good quality movies is always bigger than 4GB's that the file system of TAB can read.
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Stock player doesnt play audio if the mkv contains DTS track.
MX Video player for me is the best. Without chainging the H/W decoding i just selecting the DTS audio track and plays it perfect.
I have done tests with heavy mkc samples with 20-40MBPS with DTS sound and it plays it so smooth. Smoother than my expensive O2 HMR-2000!
My oldest Galaxy S2 plays them perfect too but with same samples i have some frame drops some times even if i have it at 1.6GHz.
It seems tab 7.7 doesnt have excactly the same cpu/gpu. At papers it is the same. But not in real life. Maybe the memory or the controler or the chipset or the architecture? I dont know.
It plays PERFECT any mkv with DTS and it is an great media player. The only problem is to read NTFS HDD's. Because the fullHD / full length good quality movies is always bigger than 4GB's that the file system of TAB can read.
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Ntfssd can read NTFS sdcard, Drive Mount can read OTG NTFS or EXT storage devices. These two app are free in Market.
I would have to chime in and say MX-Video player is the best especially on how it handles video stretching, the stock player cant really cover the entire screen and both dice and mvideo player zooms the image to fit the screen, only MX video player stretches it properly to cover the entire screen, pretty nice if your using a honeybar
I watch a lot of animes, and many animes these days are encoded using 10-bit H.264 (Hi10P).
720p 10-bit is very laggy on my galaxy S3 when using MX player. Can someone test it on galaxy S4 and tell me if it handles ? Also, please use mx player which can be downloaded for free from google play
Also, keep in mind the S4 sold in my country is GT-I9500 which uses samsung exynos processor
Did you try with VLC ?? (I don't know if it runs better with VLC, just asking)
VLC uses the same decoding libs and the performance wouldn't be much better.
10bit can only be decoded in software right now so you simply need more CPU power (and the GS4 might have enough power).
I'm quite curious if 720p 10bit can be decoded myself.
I'm curious about this as well, apparently S4 uses the same GPU as iPhone 5 which plays 10 bit videos flawlessly with no lag at all. Can anyone confirm about this?
Im getting my S4 quadcore in about 2 hours and use mxplayer. Ill be happy to try it if no one has done it by then. Where can I d/l a video to test that is the right format/rate?
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Im getting my S4 quadcore in about 2 hours and use mxplayer. Ill be happy to try it if no one has done it by then. Where can I d/l a video to test that is the right format/rate?
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Here you are! Sorry if anime is not your liking . Thanks a bunch.
http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=427698
Almost all 720p mkv files on nyaa.eu are 10-bit, you can try others if you want
I'm successfully watching 10-bit 1080 w/ .FLAC and .ASS subs in .MKV format using QQ Video Player. the video file is 1.6 gb and 23 minutes. it's a COALGIRLS video if you know what that is. the only thing I noticed is that it seems to be slightly out of sync.. it's not notable until right 12 minutes in because of how slight it is =/. the vid works fine in Media Player Classic, so Im hoping an app or fw update will correct this.
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I'm successfully watching 10-bit 1080 w/ .FLAC and .ASS subs in .MKV format using QQ Video Player. the video file is 1.6 gb and 23 minutes. it's a COALGIRLS video if you know what that is. the only thing I noticed is that it seems to be slightly out of sync.. it's not notable until right 12 minutes in because of how slight it is =/. the vid works fine in Media Player Classic, so Im hoping an app or fw update will correct this.
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good to know that, is it smooth? :laugh:
Can you check whether 720p is still out of sync
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Here you are! Sorry if anime is not your liking . Thanks a bunch.
http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=427698
Almost all 720p mkv files on nyaa.eu are 10-bit, you can try others if you want
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Sorry to have taken so long. I tried to d/l it after I got the phone, but didnt realize it was a torrent. Then I saw it was 341mg and I
only had slow 3g. D/L it when I got home and just watched some of it.
I have never watched anime, so I will simply tell you that it seemed normal to me. Using MX player I had to switch it to software decoder, as the hardware decoder played the audio but there was a black screen. Switched it to software and everything played fine, and the a/v seemed synced. It seemed smooth, I saw no choppiness or halting issues. Screen was clear and bright and crisp. Audio was loud and clear.
I didnt do anything to the phone (stock) and only made the hardware to software change in MX. Otherwise it was straight outta the box.
Hope this helps you.
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Sorry to have taken so long. I tried to d/l it after I got the phone, but didnt realize it was a torrent. Then I saw it was 341mg and I
only had slow 3g. D/L it when I got home and just watched some of it.
I have never watched anime, so I will simply tell you that it seemed normal to me. Using MX player I had to switch it to software decoder, as the hardware decoder played the audio but there was a black screen. Switched it to software and everything played fine, and the a/v seemed synced. It seemed smooth, I saw no choppiness or halting issues. Screen was clear and bright and crisp. Audio was loud and clear.
I didnt do anything to the phone (stock) and only made the hardware to software change in MX. Otherwise it was straight outta the box.
Hope this helps you.
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Thanks a lot for you reply, sounds like a perfect player after all. I definitely have to buy a S4
btw, is MXPlayer better than the stock one ? AFAIK, Samsung and LG appear to be the only ones on the markets that have the best codec support in the stock player! Nexus 4 have serious lag when playing the file above but Optimus G drives it smoothly even though they have the same hardware support (benchmark was lower on Nexus 4 though).
Even Xperia Z has issues when dealing with 10-bit video, and I doubt that HTC One is capable of playing video files well as the codec supported is rather limited (according to GSMArena).
My point is, if galaxy s4 were to have CM10.1, I'm curious whether its ability to decode film still retains by using MXPlayer
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Thanks a lot for you reply, sounds like a perfect player after all. I definitely have to buy a S4
btw, is MXPlayer better than the stock one ? AFAIK, Samsung and LG appear to be the only ones on the markets that have the best codec support in the stock player! Nexus 4 have serious lag when playing the file above but Optimus G drives it smoothly even though they have the same hardware support (benchmark was lower on Nexus 4 though).
Even Xperia Z has issues when dealing with 10-bit video, and I doubt that HTC One is capable of playing video files well as the codec supported is rather limited (according to GSMArena).
My point is, if galaxy s4 were to have CM10.1, I'm curious whether its ability to decode film still retains by using MXPlayer
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I just tried to play it with the stock player and it wouldnt play video only audio. Il try some other players and see wut happens.
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I just tried to play it with the stock player and it wouldnt play video only audio. Il try some other players and see wut happens.
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Please test it with MX player. Don't forget that you need to use S/W instead of H/W to play 10-bit
MX player is not the fastest player to play 10-bit. Archos Video player can play much 10-bit faster.
However, mx player is best player I've tested when it comes to rendering subtitles. The other video players can only display subititles at the bottom, but mx players can display the subtitles that appear in middle or top of the screen that appear in many animes. Thats the reason why I'm asking people to test using mx player.
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Here you are! Sorry if anime is not your liking . Thanks a bunch.
http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=427698
Almost all 720p mkv files on nyaa.eu are 10-bit, you can try others if you want
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You can also download 720p 10-bit animes from this website. The size of the animes is also much smaller, which good for people who don't have fast connection
http://web.hi10anime.com/
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Please test it with MX player. Don't forget that you need to use S/W instead of H/W to play 10-bit
MX player is not the fastest player to play 10-bit. Archos Video player can play much 10-bit faster.
However, mx player is best player I've tested when it comes to rendering subtitles. The other video players can only display subititles at the bottom, but mx players can display the subtitles that appear in middle or top of the screen that appear in many animes. Thats the reason why I'm asking people to test using mx player.
You can also download 720p 10-bit animes from this website. The size of the animes is also much smaller, which good for people who don't have fast connection
http://web.hi10anime.com/
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I did run it with MX Player first. If you go back a couple posts I used that first for silversun92. You are right and it ran very well. I did have to change it to S/W, but after that it worked without any problems. Silversun92 asked me about the stock player, so I tried that next and it didnt work. Sound did but video did not. Can anything correct that?
FWIW, I also ran it with BSPlayer (which I like and use). It seemed to run slightly jittery, but it automatically showed subtitles which MX didnt when I ran it. That might just be a setting issue though. Regardless, I think MX ran better than BS.
Is there anything else that you all need tested ?
anyone know how to get DTS video to work on S4? I have 1080p mkv videos with DTS audio, but it wont work at S4 video player.. there is no sound
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DTS only works in H/W+ mode afaik. (Testing with MX Player) on S4 this is a ARMv7 Neon FFMPEG custom distribution example
I find that the experience for 720p 10bit playback is not yet satisfactory. But the device may be capable of more due to its unique hardware support (HEVC). I think we can expect improvements to playback in future.
As @maroon1 mentioned Archos Player is almost satisfactory experience with 720p hi10p playback (I believe this is software rendering) however it lacks the Styled subtitle support that I have grown to love MX Player for. I can get over this lol but would be nice to have in future.
So you guys disagree on the results....
So, @roninep you say that 720p 10-bit mkvs played smoothly with MX Player on your S4, but @sh4z you say it wasn't satisfactory? Would both of you mind posting a short ~5 minute video clip of your results for comparison please?
I'm debating on buying an S4, since I watch a lot of video on my phone. Currently I have to manually re-encode (with handbrake) all my videos and anime from 10-bit to 8-bit before I put them on my phone, so a phone that plays 10-bit and saves me this extra step would be great!
Thank you for confirming!!
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I made two videos to compare MX Player and Archos Player on GT-I9505 S4.
I pretty much agree with @maroon1, I think Archos is the smoothest so far out of the players I've tried. MX Player has better subtitle support so If it's not 10bit I would use that.
Same video is used no special optimizations default settings. Streaming over WiFi G. (Plenty of bandwidth for 720p) @roninep might have a GT-I9500... Haven't tested MX Player on that yet. Will give it a go tomorrow. Maybe its okay with that device.
MX Player
https://vimeo.com/67198798
Archos Player
https://vimeo.com/67198799
Apologies in advance these videos are a bit blurry at some points as they were taken by my Galaxy S GT-I9000. It doesn't know what to focus on lol. Anyway the frame rate I think is visible enough in each example (I think that's what is important right ?)
Some other 720p 10bit mkv Tests (In Reverse Order *worst first*)
1. Mobo Video Player constantly played intrusive ad's and crashed when attempting to playback,dumped that like a **** ...
2. VLC Does not play properly v.choppy got about 3 frames out of it (It's beta after all and may kill your kittens (lol wtf vlc thats the warning you get when running the first time )) audio came through okay.
3. QQ Player was worse than Mobo Player laggy video and out of sync audio, did not properly understand styled subtitles and output incorrectly.
4. VPlayer - Constantly playing catch-up (video; fast,slow,fast,slow)- Subtitles displaying correctly at beginning but then later disappeared
5. MoboPlayer (Audio playback no video on H/W) Software playback was good but artifacting (think twice compressed jpeg, probably just not proper 10bit support) faster than MX but archos is better(faster no artifacts), subs displayed correctly but not styled
Any others people have tried that are good let us know! its useful. Cheers :good:
Thank you @sh4z for posting the videos! And you're right, framerate was what I was wondering about! And coincidentally, I'm currently using an I9000, want to upgrade to the I9500. And yeah, I currently use MX Player for everything, including those animes I convert from 10 to 8 bit.
Before I forget and go on, @sh4z how did you get the fps to show in the topright corner on MX Player? I couldn't find it as a menu option in MX Player...
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So it seems that MX Player framerate is watchable, but when compared to Archos player, Archos is much more enjoyable. Hopefully MX Player's dev will be able to improve his codec! (with MX Player having much better .ass subtitle support)
It's good that you pointed out you tested on the I9505, I had forgotten about the different chipsets. From a few places I read around, I've heard rumours that perhaps the I9500 with its Exynos 5 Cortex A15 will perform much better than the I9505's Qualcomm Krait 300.
Just looking at their comparison on Wikipedia's page for the Krait CPU, it appears (at least on the surface) that the I9500's Exynos 5 should do better? Hope we find out later!
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Hopefully, we will soon get an android device + app combination that rivals the iPhone 5 in terms of playing 10 bit videos.
For reference: From what was said on Animesuki's forum thread "iPhone 5 and 10-bit MKVs" , there's a video that proves that iPhone 5 with "HD MKV Player" app can easily handle 10 bit videos.
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I had tested some of those other players on my I9000 too, and I agree that MoboPlayer probably performs best out of them, in terms of framerate. Like you said, it's too bad that it artifacts on colours and doesn't fully support .ass styling.
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From his signature, I'd caution a guess that @roninep has the North American I9505 like you do, so no Exynos core. If anyone else here has an I9500 would you mind testing this out please? Thanks in advance!
I tested on I9505 S4.
Was watching a 720p 10 bit anime video with MX Player and find it pretty smooth except scenes that has lots of movement, action where the video stutter a little (No problem though).
But do take note the CPU does heats up a little... Mine was at 55 degree C after a full episode.
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I tested on I9505 S4.
Was watching a 720p 10 bit anime video with MX Player and find it pretty smooth except scenes that has lots of movement, action where the video stutter a little (No problem though).
But do take note the CPU does heats up a little... Mine was at 55 degree C after a full episode.
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@psycovirus thanks for testing! Would you say the performance was about the same or better than the video sh4z posted with MX Player on I9505?
And yeah, it's unfortunate but expected that the CPU would heat up since it's all software decoding.... I don't think any consumer hardware will get hardware accelerated h.264 hi10p, especially with the release of h.265 "HEVC".