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Anyone else tried rockplayer on this beast?
I only ask as I did, and it failed to play a 720 video of ST:TOS whereas the standard video player played it without a hiccup!
Seems odd as rockplayer used to be my old go to on my blade, that and the standard player can't play the HD mov's I have of trailers.
Mobo player is the way to go and is FREE.
mobo player ftw
rock is nice but mobo is waaay better than anything. and free (for some reason, I would have payed)
mobo player is the best
but if you want to play mkv with soft subs (specially anime )
then use mVideoPlayer
and the two of them are free
I'll try that then! Never heard of it so thank you.
Is it obvious I've been on Android for under 9 months lol. Rock was pitched as the best in another forum when I was trying to squeak as much power out of my old blade as I could.
Thanks guys.
rock player also has restraint, it can't play mov, mts, tod, tivo etc.when i have such videos for galaxy s2 playback, i usually using a video tool to change these videos.
Just stop wasting your own time and download/pay for DicePlayer. It's superior to anything in the market for the SGS/SGS II.
Vulpix said:
Just stop wasting your own time and download/pay for DicePlayer. It's superior to anything in the market for the SGS/SGS II.
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I tried dice player for 3 days...it cant play the streaming videos form my streaming app...only mobo player is able to do that.
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I tried dice player for 3 days...it cant play the streaming videos form my streaming app...only mobo player is able to do that.
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It's not a good app for steaming videos, but it's one of the best for other stuff.
Dice and mobo are definitely the best but people should always try stock first as it has some half decent codec support and will hardware decode where others may not.
Can anyone recommend a good video player that will play videos without jerking, without stopping and with the recorded sound. Doesn't have to be a freebie, main requirement is quality of playback on A500 v3.2.
Thanks
dice player + plugin for tegra2 and every movie works like a charm.
proxonic
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Can anyone recommend a good video player that will play videos without jerking, without stopping and with the recorded sound. Doesn't have to be a freebie, main requirement is quality of playback on A500 v3.2.
Thanks
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It really depends. There is NO video player that can play non-baseline 1080p video without stutter, so if you're hoping for such you're out of luck. But for almost all else Dice Player or MX Player should work just peachy.
I use rock player.
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Dice player pro works excellently at playing HD movies. MX Player is also a great choice and free.
mx player is the business. Does the job very smoothly.
Have used everything out there except dice and the best one I have found was MX Player. Rock player, mobo player, built in one, and a couple other just couldn't cut it.
MX Player was the only one I could find that would play a 720p mkv without stuttering. I actually searched for a paid version of the app it was so good. They did recently add ads into the free version, but I was more than happy to pay for PRO.
proxonic said:
dice player + plugin for tegra2 and every movie works like a charm.
proxonic
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Thanks for the heads up on the plugin, Dice plays everything like a dream now!
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I recommend MX Player. The latest version can do hardware video and software audio at the same time, so AC3 channels can have sound now.
I have tried everything and I think Dice is the best.
It has full Tegra 2 H/W support.
I use MoboPlayer, but I honestly haven't thrown any 1080p content at it yet, so I don't know how well it handles that.
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I use MoboPlayer, but I honestly haven't thrown any 1080p content at it yet, so I don't know how well it handles that.
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Since your screen isn't capable of playing 1080p content natively, that's not an issue.
haven't tried dice but mx is the best free one by far, however I keep mobo on my tablet because you can completely dim the screen while using HDMI, thus saving some battery.
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haven't tried dice but mx is the best free one by far, however I keep mobo on my tablet because you can completely dim the screen while using HDMI, thus saving some battery.
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Thanks for the tip, i was searching for something like that
MX has always worked well for me
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I have tried everything and I think Dice is the best.
It has full Tegra 2 H/W support.
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+1 you can also turn down brightness on dice player whilst playing via hdmi!
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I use MoboPlayer, but I honestly haven't thrown any 1080p content at it yet, so I don't know how well it handles that.
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I use Mobo for my MKV movies and all are 920p or 1080p an a few AVI's... I can also stream online movies too
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When playing movies using MX Player Pro, everything looks great. Even my Blu-Ray rip of Lord of the Rings looks frikking magical.
However, when I play the exact same file using XBMC, the exact same files are choppy and stuttery and unwatchable.
Any ideas?
Thanks!
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When playing movies using MX Player Pro, everything looks great. Even my Blu-Ray rip of Lord of the Rings looks frikking magical.
However, when I play the exact same file using XBMC, the exact same files are choppy and stuttery and unwatchable.
Any ideas?
Thanks!
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Yeah, continue using MX Player... :good:
But seriously, they are two very different apps in the way they process the video. MX Player has had a great reputation for its performance for quite some time. XBMC is still relatively new on this platform.
As far as any options regarding tweaking XBMC, I couldn't tell you since I don't use it myself. Perhaps another user would have some advice. And always remember... "Google is your friend"
The difference betwen the two is that MX Player is using HW accelerated playback and XBMC does not. XBMC trys to avoid using special HW acceleration methods that differ with each GPU. With that being said there is a fork of XBMC that adds ARM7 HW accelerated video api which is used by the Nexus 10. This fork is not official.
Official experimental build - "universal support for hardware video decoding in XBMC"
http://liliputing.com/2013/01/exper...dware-accelerated-video-for-most-devices.html
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=152005
This web site indicates XBMC external player support, including MX Player:
http://www.xbmcandroid.com/forums/installing-xbmc-android/374.htm
I hope this helps, I am still waiting for my N10 to arrive so have not tried any of these myself.
Good luck
I watch a lot of animes, and many animes these days are encoded using 10-bit H.264 (Hi10P).
720p 10-bit is very laggy on my galaxy S3 when using MX player. Can someone test it on galaxy S4 and tell me if it handles ? Also, please use mx player which can be downloaded for free from google play
Also, keep in mind the S4 sold in my country is GT-I9500 which uses samsung exynos processor
Did you try with VLC ?? (I don't know if it runs better with VLC, just asking)
VLC uses the same decoding libs and the performance wouldn't be much better.
10bit can only be decoded in software right now so you simply need more CPU power (and the GS4 might have enough power).
I'm quite curious if 720p 10bit can be decoded myself.
I'm curious about this as well, apparently S4 uses the same GPU as iPhone 5 which plays 10 bit videos flawlessly with no lag at all. Can anyone confirm about this?
Im getting my S4 quadcore in about 2 hours and use mxplayer. Ill be happy to try it if no one has done it by then. Where can I d/l a video to test that is the right format/rate?
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Im getting my S4 quadcore in about 2 hours and use mxplayer. Ill be happy to try it if no one has done it by then. Where can I d/l a video to test that is the right format/rate?
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Here you are! Sorry if anime is not your liking . Thanks a bunch.
http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=427698
Almost all 720p mkv files on nyaa.eu are 10-bit, you can try others if you want
I'm successfully watching 10-bit 1080 w/ .FLAC and .ASS subs in .MKV format using QQ Video Player. the video file is 1.6 gb and 23 minutes. it's a COALGIRLS video if you know what that is. the only thing I noticed is that it seems to be slightly out of sync.. it's not notable until right 12 minutes in because of how slight it is =/. the vid works fine in Media Player Classic, so Im hoping an app or fw update will correct this.
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I'm successfully watching 10-bit 1080 w/ .FLAC and .ASS subs in .MKV format using QQ Video Player. the video file is 1.6 gb and 23 minutes. it's a COALGIRLS video if you know what that is. the only thing I noticed is that it seems to be slightly out of sync.. it's not notable until right 12 minutes in because of how slight it is =/. the vid works fine in Media Player Classic, so Im hoping an app or fw update will correct this.
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good to know that, is it smooth? :laugh:
Can you check whether 720p is still out of sync
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Here you are! Sorry if anime is not your liking . Thanks a bunch.
http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=427698
Almost all 720p mkv files on nyaa.eu are 10-bit, you can try others if you want
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Sorry to have taken so long. I tried to d/l it after I got the phone, but didnt realize it was a torrent. Then I saw it was 341mg and I
only had slow 3g. D/L it when I got home and just watched some of it.
I have never watched anime, so I will simply tell you that it seemed normal to me. Using MX player I had to switch it to software decoder, as the hardware decoder played the audio but there was a black screen. Switched it to software and everything played fine, and the a/v seemed synced. It seemed smooth, I saw no choppiness or halting issues. Screen was clear and bright and crisp. Audio was loud and clear.
I didnt do anything to the phone (stock) and only made the hardware to software change in MX. Otherwise it was straight outta the box.
Hope this helps you.
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Sorry to have taken so long. I tried to d/l it after I got the phone, but didnt realize it was a torrent. Then I saw it was 341mg and I
only had slow 3g. D/L it when I got home and just watched some of it.
I have never watched anime, so I will simply tell you that it seemed normal to me. Using MX player I had to switch it to software decoder, as the hardware decoder played the audio but there was a black screen. Switched it to software and everything played fine, and the a/v seemed synced. It seemed smooth, I saw no choppiness or halting issues. Screen was clear and bright and crisp. Audio was loud and clear.
I didnt do anything to the phone (stock) and only made the hardware to software change in MX. Otherwise it was straight outta the box.
Hope this helps you.
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Thanks a lot for you reply, sounds like a perfect player after all. I definitely have to buy a S4
btw, is MXPlayer better than the stock one ? AFAIK, Samsung and LG appear to be the only ones on the markets that have the best codec support in the stock player! Nexus 4 have serious lag when playing the file above but Optimus G drives it smoothly even though they have the same hardware support (benchmark was lower on Nexus 4 though).
Even Xperia Z has issues when dealing with 10-bit video, and I doubt that HTC One is capable of playing video files well as the codec supported is rather limited (according to GSMArena).
My point is, if galaxy s4 were to have CM10.1, I'm curious whether its ability to decode film still retains by using MXPlayer
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Thanks a lot for you reply, sounds like a perfect player after all. I definitely have to buy a S4
btw, is MXPlayer better than the stock one ? AFAIK, Samsung and LG appear to be the only ones on the markets that have the best codec support in the stock player! Nexus 4 have serious lag when playing the file above but Optimus G drives it smoothly even though they have the same hardware support (benchmark was lower on Nexus 4 though).
Even Xperia Z has issues when dealing with 10-bit video, and I doubt that HTC One is capable of playing video files well as the codec supported is rather limited (according to GSMArena).
My point is, if galaxy s4 were to have CM10.1, I'm curious whether its ability to decode film still retains by using MXPlayer
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I just tried to play it with the stock player and it wouldnt play video only audio. Il try some other players and see wut happens.
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I just tried to play it with the stock player and it wouldnt play video only audio. Il try some other players and see wut happens.
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Please test it with MX player. Don't forget that you need to use S/W instead of H/W to play 10-bit
MX player is not the fastest player to play 10-bit. Archos Video player can play much 10-bit faster.
However, mx player is best player I've tested when it comes to rendering subtitles. The other video players can only display subititles at the bottom, but mx players can display the subtitles that appear in middle or top of the screen that appear in many animes. Thats the reason why I'm asking people to test using mx player.
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Here you are! Sorry if anime is not your liking . Thanks a bunch.
http://www.nyaa.eu/?page=download&tid=427698
Almost all 720p mkv files on nyaa.eu are 10-bit, you can try others if you want
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You can also download 720p 10-bit animes from this website. The size of the animes is also much smaller, which good for people who don't have fast connection
http://web.hi10anime.com/
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Please test it with MX player. Don't forget that you need to use S/W instead of H/W to play 10-bit
MX player is not the fastest player to play 10-bit. Archos Video player can play much 10-bit faster.
However, mx player is best player I've tested when it comes to rendering subtitles. The other video players can only display subititles at the bottom, but mx players can display the subtitles that appear in middle or top of the screen that appear in many animes. Thats the reason why I'm asking people to test using mx player.
You can also download 720p 10-bit animes from this website. The size of the animes is also much smaller, which good for people who don't have fast connection
http://web.hi10anime.com/
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I did run it with MX Player first. If you go back a couple posts I used that first for silversun92. You are right and it ran very well. I did have to change it to S/W, but after that it worked without any problems. Silversun92 asked me about the stock player, so I tried that next and it didnt work. Sound did but video did not. Can anything correct that?
FWIW, I also ran it with BSPlayer (which I like and use). It seemed to run slightly jittery, but it automatically showed subtitles which MX didnt when I ran it. That might just be a setting issue though. Regardless, I think MX ran better than BS.
Is there anything else that you all need tested ?
anyone know how to get DTS video to work on S4? I have 1080p mkv videos with DTS audio, but it wont work at S4 video player.. there is no sound
@ben3003
DTS only works in H/W+ mode afaik. (Testing with MX Player) on S4 this is a ARMv7 Neon FFMPEG custom distribution example
I find that the experience for 720p 10bit playback is not yet satisfactory. But the device may be capable of more due to its unique hardware support (HEVC). I think we can expect improvements to playback in future.
As @maroon1 mentioned Archos Player is almost satisfactory experience with 720p hi10p playback (I believe this is software rendering) however it lacks the Styled subtitle support that I have grown to love MX Player for. I can get over this lol but would be nice to have in future.
So you guys disagree on the results....
So, @roninep you say that 720p 10-bit mkvs played smoothly with MX Player on your S4, but @sh4z you say it wasn't satisfactory? Would both of you mind posting a short ~5 minute video clip of your results for comparison please?
I'm debating on buying an S4, since I watch a lot of video on my phone. Currently I have to manually re-encode (with handbrake) all my videos and anime from 10-bit to 8-bit before I put them on my phone, so a phone that plays 10-bit and saves me this extra step would be great!
Thank you for confirming!!
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I made two videos to compare MX Player and Archos Player on GT-I9505 S4.
I pretty much agree with @maroon1, I think Archos is the smoothest so far out of the players I've tried. MX Player has better subtitle support so If it's not 10bit I would use that.
Same video is used no special optimizations default settings. Streaming over WiFi G. (Plenty of bandwidth for 720p) @roninep might have a GT-I9500... Haven't tested MX Player on that yet. Will give it a go tomorrow. Maybe its okay with that device.
MX Player
https://vimeo.com/67198798
Archos Player
https://vimeo.com/67198799
Apologies in advance these videos are a bit blurry at some points as they were taken by my Galaxy S GT-I9000. It doesn't know what to focus on lol. Anyway the frame rate I think is visible enough in each example (I think that's what is important right ?)
Some other 720p 10bit mkv Tests (In Reverse Order *worst first*)
1. Mobo Video Player constantly played intrusive ad's and crashed when attempting to playback,dumped that like a **** ...
2. VLC Does not play properly v.choppy got about 3 frames out of it (It's beta after all and may kill your kittens (lol wtf vlc thats the warning you get when running the first time )) audio came through okay.
3. QQ Player was worse than Mobo Player laggy video and out of sync audio, did not properly understand styled subtitles and output incorrectly.
4. VPlayer - Constantly playing catch-up (video; fast,slow,fast,slow)- Subtitles displaying correctly at beginning but then later disappeared
5. MoboPlayer (Audio playback no video on H/W) Software playback was good but artifacting (think twice compressed jpeg, probably just not proper 10bit support) faster than MX but archos is better(faster no artifacts), subs displayed correctly but not styled
Any others people have tried that are good let us know! its useful. Cheers :good:
Thank you @sh4z for posting the videos! And you're right, framerate was what I was wondering about! And coincidentally, I'm currently using an I9000, want to upgrade to the I9500. And yeah, I currently use MX Player for everything, including those animes I convert from 10 to 8 bit.
Before I forget and go on, @sh4z how did you get the fps to show in the topright corner on MX Player? I couldn't find it as a menu option in MX Player...
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So it seems that MX Player framerate is watchable, but when compared to Archos player, Archos is much more enjoyable. Hopefully MX Player's dev will be able to improve his codec! (with MX Player having much better .ass subtitle support)
It's good that you pointed out you tested on the I9505, I had forgotten about the different chipsets. From a few places I read around, I've heard rumours that perhaps the I9500 with its Exynos 5 Cortex A15 will perform much better than the I9505's Qualcomm Krait 300.
Just looking at their comparison on Wikipedia's page for the Krait CPU, it appears (at least on the surface) that the I9500's Exynos 5 should do better? Hope we find out later!
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Hopefully, we will soon get an android device + app combination that rivals the iPhone 5 in terms of playing 10 bit videos.
For reference: From what was said on Animesuki's forum thread "iPhone 5 and 10-bit MKVs" , there's a video that proves that iPhone 5 with "HD MKV Player" app can easily handle 10 bit videos.
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I had tested some of those other players on my I9000 too, and I agree that MoboPlayer probably performs best out of them, in terms of framerate. Like you said, it's too bad that it artifacts on colours and doesn't fully support .ass styling.
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From his signature, I'd caution a guess that @roninep has the North American I9505 like you do, so no Exynos core. If anyone else here has an I9500 would you mind testing this out please? Thanks in advance!
I tested on I9505 S4.
Was watching a 720p 10 bit anime video with MX Player and find it pretty smooth except scenes that has lots of movement, action where the video stutter a little (No problem though).
But do take note the CPU does heats up a little... Mine was at 55 degree C after a full episode.
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I tested on I9505 S4.
Was watching a 720p 10 bit anime video with MX Player and find it pretty smooth except scenes that has lots of movement, action where the video stutter a little (No problem though).
But do take note the CPU does heats up a little... Mine was at 55 degree C after a full episode.
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@psycovirus thanks for testing! Would you say the performance was about the same or better than the video sh4z posted with MX Player on I9505?
And yeah, it's unfortunate but expected that the CPU would heat up since it's all software decoding.... I don't think any consumer hardware will get hardware accelerated h.264 hi10p, especially with the release of h.265 "HEVC".
Hello. What is the best combination for playing hd videos wihtout lag? Which app works the best and which rom-kernel?
I have rooted nexus 10 and i have stock kernel-rom. However the hd videos lag a little.(refering to 720p)
I have tried mx player and bsplayer with our cpu addon.
I just use regular bsplayer. Never had an issue and I was just watching HD stuff this weekend. I am on RasSaber ROM, but I never had issue on AOKP PUB, AOKP, or CM10.1 stuff either.
I would bet it is more about how the player is set up, whether using CPU or GPU, and how easily the clock speed for whatever the player is using ramps up.
More or less. Most of these ROMs have the appropriate CPU/GPU drivers already, so your main concern should be making sure that your player is using H/W decoding...and that you've encoded your file properly too.
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I just use regular bsplayer. Never had an issue and I was just watching HD stuff this weekend. I am on RasSaber ROM, ....
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Where do you download RasSaber? I can only find rasbeanjelly, etc. Is there a thread?
I do not have a link, I am not sure if it is available anymore or not. I am running a build from may 12th, and the latest build I have is from may 28th. You could ask sparksco or Rascarlo if they can give you a link to one of the builds.
Using hardware the video lags more. I tried an mkv file. Can i change any other settings in the programs to make it smoother?
Maybe i will flash another kernel, but i want 1 week to try the stock kernel in order to be able to tell the differences..
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Using hardware the video lags more. I tried an mkv file. Can i change any other settings in the programs to make it smoother?
Maybe i will flash another kernel, but i want 1 week to try the stock kernel in order to be able to tell the differences..
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Then your player is (probably) badly built. There are really no circumstances under which a S/W decoder should be able to beat a H/W one. I personally don't have issues using MPlayer or stock.
Dice and MX Player. Dice can pla some videos on H/W that MX can't.
I used a few kernels and roms and never had issues with mxplayer. The thing is you have to turn on in options h/w+ (so u have 3 ways to play your video h/w, h/w+ and s/w), then turn it once in top right corner while playing movie. I mostly run mkv 720p files.
Yes i am using hw+ in mx player.. I also use bs pleyer with the neon cpu plugin. I will try another movie and dice player and report.. Thanks.
Edit: i tried dice player and works flawlessly with hw! Also i tried again mx and seems to be working better...
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Hello. What is the best combination for playing hd videos wihtout lag? Which app works the best and which rom-kernel?
I have rooted nexus 10 and i have stock kernel-rom. However the hd videos lag a little.(refering to 720p)
I have tried mx player and bsplayer with our cpu addon.
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I use MX Player without hw+ enabled on stock, unrooted Android 4.2.2, haven't noticed lag, and I play 1080p trailers all the time. If you really want to stress it, here's a 1440p trailer you can try out (third link, which they incorrectly label as 2560p). That video drops frames like crazy if I don't use hardware decoding, but plays fine with it. Better than my HOX+, which just plays the audio and drops the video altogether.
I wanted to find a video that would actually use the full resolution of my Nexus 10 and that's the only one I found that comes close. :laugh:
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I use MX Player without hw+ enabled on stock, unrooted Android 4.2.2, haven't noticed lag, and I play 1080p trailers all the time. If you really want to stress it, here's a 1440p trailer you can try out (third link, which they incorrectly label as 2560p). That video drops frames like crazy if I don't use hardware decoding, but plays fine with it. Better than my HOX+, which just plays the audio and drops the video altogether.
I wanted to find a video that would actually use the full resolution of my Nexus 10 and that's the only one I found that comes close. :laugh:
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I tried it and it works great with mx player.. I think mp4 are read better from tablets...
MX Player has always done me proud...
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