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Observation: Overheating AC Adapters

I like many people was having issues where the AC adapter would randomly stop charging my tablet. Someones it would start working again soon after and sometimes almost an entire day would go by before it started working again.
Tried the freezer trick with no results. Was going to send it back to Asus when I noticed 2 things.
1. The adapter was very not every time it stopped charging.. hotter than it usually gets when functioning correctly.
2. It only ever stops charging when i'm using a usb 3.0 extension cable.
To test this i stopped using the extension able for about 2 weeks and the adapter functioned properly the entire time. Then last night I reconnected the extension cable and within 5 minutes of of being plugged in charging stopped and the adapter was extremely hot. This obviously leads me to believe that the extension cable is in some way effecting the adapters voltage or something and causing it to malfunction. So I'm curious as to how many of the others who having issues are also using extension cables.

Not the voltage the current the more current it has to push the hotter its going to get and the chargers for these are not designed for extensions they where designed to be small and charge the tf even then there at there limit
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I also was having trouble with over heating and have been using an 3.0 extension cable. I will stop using it and report back.
hshoem1

its a design flaw with the ac addapters and its one of the reasons that the cable that ships with the transformer is so short

I was just using the cable as is with no extension and it died on my twice. I now have it rigged up to charge from my PC's PSU and only use the adapter when I'm not at my house.

My charger melted my damn usb cable. Thats how hot it got..
I wasnt using the extension cable at the time.
The adaptor would always warm up, which i read was normal. A few days ago, however, i felt some heat on the cable itself.When i reached to the connector, i noticed it had literally melted the rubber casing off the wire.
Im in the process of sending it back today

Just had my second charger die on me! I was charging my Dock and Tablet during class from 2:50-4:10 and when I unplugged it the charger was pretty hot. I went back home and connected the TF to my rigged up PSU charger and then went to class at 6:10 and plugged in the charger and unsurprisingly it wouldn't charge!
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda premium

Ive heard reports of people solving these problems by swapping round the mains pins ( I guess only in countries that use 2 pin outlets, UK have 3 )

I am sure this will sound nuts but, put the wall charger in a plastic bag and put it in the freezer for a few hours. Please do not forget the plastic bag. There is a thermal heat fuse inside the brick that needs to be reset. If it is still working the cold will make it reconnect and bring the brick back to working order.
You should make a DIY charger by following "DevCake" thread on DIY AC and DC chargers for the TF.
Hope this helps.
hshoem1

I just do not understand why we would have to go out of our way for their crappy idea of a charger. I understand the idea of not allowing aftermarket chargers because they want the money for the chargers but i mean if you do that then at least make something worth having besides giving us a heater...does this remind anyone of the rrod( red ring of death) for the xbox... to much of a hurry to send out their product they didnt really test EVERY aspect of their device...this makes me sad..and then need to send it back and what not taking up more of our time then not being able to use the tablet because your chargers going back... i wish customer service was better....that is all

just a quick pop here.
but i have found that if you charge the dock and tab separately there are no problems with the adapter. and besides charging while the tab is docked into the keyboard is kinda a waste as its charging the keyboard dock, and at the same time its discharging and trying to charge the tab at the same time. hence causing the strain on the adapter.
besides charging both at once will just kill the keyboard dock in the long run

regP said:
I like many people was having issues where the AC adapter would randomly stop charging my tablet. Someones it would start working again soon after and sometimes almost an entire day would go by before it started working again.
Tried the freezer trick with no results. Was going to send it back to Asus when I noticed 2 things.
1. The adapter was very not every time it stopped charging.. hotter than it usually gets when functioning correctly.
2. It only ever stops charging when i'm using a usb 3.0 extension cable.
To test this i stopped using the extension able for about 2 weeks and the adapter functioned properly the entire time. Then last night I reconnected the extension cable and within 5 minutes of of being plugged in charging stopped and the adapter was extremely hot. This obviously leads me to believe that the extension cable is in some way effecting the adapters voltage or something and causing it to malfunction. So I'm curious as to how many of the others who having issues are also using extension cables.
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Mine doesn't speed charge my Transformer even without the extension cable. Maybe I'll do some testing with that though and check the heat, since the damn thing doesn't work anymore anyways. Though I might not get any results because of that
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reaperzero said:
just a quick pop here.
but i have found that if you charge the dock and tab separately there are no problems with the adapter. and besides charging while the tab is docked into the keyboard is kinda a waste as its charging the keyboard dock, and at the same time its discharging and trying to charge the tab at the same time. hence causing the strain on the adapter.
besides charging both at once will just kill the keyboard dock in the long run
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There are many problems with the charger, many different problems.
I barely use my dock, so I have only been charging my TF standalone. Still stopped working though late last week.

Hmmm, issues here as well...
Charger stopped working at times and then start working again... Now it's not working and sticks with that plan. Pluggin in the charger with the TF turned off makes it boot so something IS happening, it doesn't charge though.
Luckily I have another charger (no original asus but using another adapter + usb-cablethingie) so I can atleast charge it, but still. Was thinking of buying another asus adapter (the travelpack) but really doubting it now if it's a general issue.
Will try the freezer trick anyway and some other stuff... Quite annoying though (for an otherwise excellent product).

i thought the accessories that comes with the TF are all covered under a one year warranty?
and the problem with the adapters suddenly dying is probably the capacitors in the charger or the stepdown transformer in it anyone had a chance to open one yet?

reaperzero said:
just a quick pop here.
but i have found that if you charge the dock and tab separately there are no problems with the adapter.
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An Asus UK tech support guy actually told me not to charge both the tablet and dock at the same time. Pretty poor if you ask me. They just went silent when I pushed the matter.
They have compromised the design in their desire to make a fashionably tiny charger.

dagrim1 said:
Hmmm, issues here as well...
Charger stopped working at times and then start working again... Now it's not working and sticks with that plan. Pluggin in the charger with the TF turned off makes it boot so something IS happening, it doesn't charge though.
Luckily I have another charger (no original asus but using another adapter + usb-cablethingie) so I can atleast charge it, but still. Was thinking of buying another asus adapter (the travelpack) but really doubting it now if it's a general issue.
Will try the freezer trick anyway and some other stuff... Quite annoying though (for an otherwise excellent product).
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Actually it is charging, but not with the voltage it requires for the "quick charge". Mine does the same thing. If you turn off the screen or turn off the TF and leave it plugged in, it charges at ~3%/hour. Not very useful if you're a heavy user but better than nothing until you get a new charger.

I may be really lucky: the only time I've ever had a failure to charge, has been fixed by taking off the plug and snapping it back.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk

tekkitan said:
Actually it is charging, but not with the voltage it requires for the "quick charge". Mine does the same thing. If you turn off the screen or turn off the TF and leave it plugged in, it charges at ~3%/hour. Not very useful if you're a heavy user but better than nothing until you get a new charger.
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Now you mention this, it indeed does... slow but it does charge. Damnit, luckily I have another charger but this annoys the crap out of me.

dagrim1 said:
Now you mention this, it indeed does... slow but it does charge. Damnit, luckily I have another charger but this annoys the crap out of me.
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Oh yeah me too
I'm going to get another charger tomorrow when I go pick up a joystick for Battlefield 3
Then I'll contact Asus I guess and get it RMA'ed. Going to try and get some free shipping out of them. Sometimes I am successful sometimes not haha

Spidey01 said:
I may be really lucky: the only time I've ever had a failure to charge, has been fixed by taking off the plug and snapping it back.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk
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I get the same, snap off the plug convertor and back on again and back in business again!

Transformer's touchscreen unresponsive while charging.

I searched and can't seem to find any threads on this topic. Odd thing is I don't get any SOD or RR on ICS but can't use my damn tablet if its charging lol. Anyone have any input on this?

just for giggles. switch the orientation of the wall charger plug and try it.

I've seen this when charging on a plane. I assume it has something to do with the voltage being supplied.

Are you using some kind of third party charger? These have been known to cause problems on any sort of technology.

I have seen this on my wifes tf once before, never on mine or my spare...
But with 50% of my micro USB cables it will happen on my infuse... Most frequently while charging in the car. The issue seemed to be a combination of crappy cables and crappy chargers and heat... If my phone was hot it was far more likely to occur than if it was cold. I haven't charged my phone via a plug on months though, I have 4 batteries I rotate, keeping 3 charged at all times
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Black Box said:
I searched and can't seem to find any threads on this topic. Odd thing is I don't get any SOD or RR on ICS but can't use my damn tablet if its charging lol. Anyone have any input on this?
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I think it's a voltage thing. Im a long distance courier and i have an ac adapter in my van. When charging through a regular wall socket everything is fine. Yet when plugged into my inverter the screen is not responsive, as soon as i unplug it is fine. I typically use my tablet for netflix while im on the road. So i usually end up pressing play then plug it in. My inverter is rather weak, i was thinking of buying a higher output to see if it corrected things.
This post doesn't really help you, just letting you know you're not alone. If you can't charge while plugged into a wall socket, perhaps your charger is defective and is not sending out the proper current?
Good luck, i hope you find a solution.
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using XDA

Hmm. Most likely its my third party power adapter. It's odd that the transformer won't allow variations in voltage. I've never had an issue with any device in the past 10 years using third party power adapters. Guess I'll have to spring for a 30 dollar asus charger . Thanks for the input guys.

Enercell AC adapter cat no. 273-358 with the USB connector piece. from radio shack
Been using this adapter for several months with out a hitch. Plus it has a 6 foot cord... Score!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I997 using XDA

Same thing happened with my SGS.
So, it's not a TF only problem.

Happens on Nook Color too.
Sometimes it's not just unresponsive, it's erratic and causes touch events to register all over the screen for no reason. These happen only when plugged in so I assume there's some voltage issue.

TF300T burned up while docked!!!

So I was laying on my bed watching TV when I noticed that very distinct smell of burnt electronics. I have a lot of electronics in my room, so I got up and started checking each power cable and device and couldn't initially identify the source. I laid back down and the smell went away, then it came back with a vengeance. So I was eventually able to trace it to my TF. I did NOT have it plugged in to AC power. No physical mods or overclocking have been done to the system.
After inspecting my dock and transformer, I found that the smell emanated from the left side dock connector on the dock as well as the power port on the dock. On the pad, the only noticeable damage was just to the left of the lower left side of the screen where the left side dock connector connects. It started to burn or melt whatever it is under the screen. It's difficult to say whether the pad or the dock or both is at fault for this. But my guess would be the dock.
Both are having to be replaced. I am still within my in-store return, however, best buy is having to order and ship it because they don't have any 16GB models left.
Pad Information...
Pad Serial: C30KCTxxxxxx
Firmware Version: 9.4.3.30
Bootloader: Locked
Dock Serial: C30KCTxxxxxx

that sucks! sorry to hear that, i hope it doesn't fortell bad quality control.

Glad you found it before things could've gotten worse.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF300T using Tapatalk 2

atleast you can get it replaced mate and things could have been a lot worse

These babys can pull alot of amperes while charging, as evidenced by the scorching hot charging adapters and short recharge times.
My guess is that either the dock announced itself as a charger somehow (or however that works) or the tablet "thought" it was charging from an adapter (or however THAT works).
Edit: Or someone cast a lvl 10 fireball on your preciousss.
Yep... Definitely magic.

/dev/void said:
These babys can pull alot of amperes while charging, as evidenced by the scorching hot charging adapters and short recharge times.
My guess is that either the dock announced itself as a charger somehow (or however that works) or the tablet "thought" it was charging from an adapter (or however THAT works).
Edit: Or someone cast a lvl 10 fireball on your preciousss.
Yep... Definitely magic.
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Lol yea, a level 10 fireball seems more evident.
Sent from my SGH-I777 using Tapatalk 2

I wonder if this is an issue in related to the TF300 drawing power while docked in sleep mode (unplugged)?
I have had two of each and still the same issue. Both have the newest firmware and in both cases drained the batteries and were warm while in sleep mode while docked for the night. Weird.

It seems that your TF300T was droped?

My Xoom learned a new trick...

...Play dead.
We all know how brilliant a design the charge cord adapter is, I myself am on to my third one in almost two years. Well, the tablet stopped charging today and no matter which wall outlet I used or how much I wiggled the lead I could not make the light come on. Seeing that my Verizon contract is all but done at the end of this month and rather than buy another charge cord I decided to buy a new tab. I just picked up the new Asus Transformer Infinity, not too bad so far. Anyways, about 20 minutes after getting home with neither tablet charged to a useable level, the power goes out for a couple hours- just my luck too. When the power came back on suddenly the light on the Xoom came on. I hadn't touched it since I gave up on trying to get it to charge. Now here I am with two tablets and a $500 hole in my pocket. I know I was bound to get a new one eventually so I'm going to hang on to it but I never saw it happening like this.
Has anyone else had any issues regarding their chargers? Or anything unusual occur in general? I'm sure I'm not alone.

Ouch I would hate to folk out another $500 dollars for a new tablet even though my old one still works. I don't use my tablet for any intensive apps like games, so a new one would be pretty pointless for me. I never had any issues with my charger, well one time one of my charger did blow up, but that's because the battery was faulty for my jump charger for my car. Other than that, you might have some dust in the charger pin hole? Just a guess really.

I'm on my third charger since March. Original Motorola one died, second one (off eBay) burnt out, current one (off eBay) still working but I can't use the touchscreen while unit is charging.
I live remote using an off-grid power supply so this may have something to do with it.

Chelseablue said:
We all know how brilliant a design the charge cord adapter is, I myself am on to my third one in almost two years.
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Huh. I have four of them, from the original back in Feb '11 to one I was given a few months back, and they all work perfectly- and most of 'em are used every week (two at home, one in the office, one for travel).

agreed with kcrudup, ive been through 2, the only reason being i snapped the connector on the first one when i pulled it out at a bad angle

The charger that came with my refurbished Xoom lasted almost through the first charge. I thought I was going to have to send the whole thing back until I took it into the Verizon store and verified that it charged with a different charger. I've since got one off eBay and another with the standard dock. Both have been holding out so far.
Oh and my Xoom touch screen doesn't respond while charging either. Somewhere I read that a factory reset will fix that... but I'm waiting until my 90 day warantee is up to put EOS on it since my BT mouse works while it is charging.
ByteWrencher

My original charger is still working and I got my tablet 8 months back. I think the charger has lasted pretty well. How long did peoples original ones seem to last?

ByteWrencher said:
Oh and my Xoom touch screen doesn't respond while charging either. Somewhere I read that a factory reset will fix that
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That's an electrical problem (noise and/or grounding issues with the charger raise the "noise floor" so the touchscreen controller has trouble determining what's a valid touch) and can't be cured by any reset, factory or full or ...
Your issue is your charger- try another.

xoom chargers
Chelseablue said:
...Play dead.
We all know how brilliant a design the charge cord adapter is, I myself am on to my third one in almost two years. Well, the tablet stopped charging today and no matter which wall outlet I used or how much I wiggled the lead I could not make the light come on. Seeing that my Verizon contract is all but done at the end of this month and rather than buy another charge cord I decided to buy a new tab. I just picked up the new Asus Transformer Infinity, not too bad so far. Anyways, about 20 minutes after getting home with neither tablet charged to a useable level, the power goes out for a couple hours- just my luck too. When the power came back on suddenly the light on the Xoom came on. I hadn't touched it since I gave up on trying to get it to charge. Now here I am with two tablets and a $500 hole in my pocket. I know I was bound to get a new one eventually so I'm going to hang on to it but I never saw it happening like this.
Has anyone else had any issues regarding their chargers? Or anything unusual occur in general? I'm sure I'm not alone.
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Just a quick note.. I've had the ebay sourced chargers fail on my xoom ( and other devices). I found that the power ratings on some of them are rather optimistic... they simply are running at the outer limits to charge the tablet and failure can be internal to the power unit...best case.. or worst case failure dumps overvoltage or raw AC power to the tablet.
Fortunately my failed units were of the internal power supply version.. and aside from bad smells no real damage was done.
I have successfully built charger/power units after scavenging the connector from my failed power supplies and using a minimum 1.5 amp 12v dc supply... they seem to work fine.. and keeping one handy is much more convenient than wondering where I last used it :fingers-crossed:
as always.. your mileage may vary

Hmm, that's interesting. Unfortunately this charger is from Verizon and i would surely hope that their stuff work to the correct specs. I wonder sometimes that maybe the problem could be with the contact inside the tablet. Could that have something to so with it?

Chelseablue said:
Hmm, that's interesting. Unfortunately this charger is from Verizon and i would surely hope that their stuff work to the correct specs. I wonder sometimes that maybe the problem could be with the contact inside the tablet. Could that have something to so with it?
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I think the Motorola/Verizon chargrs are good. I think the earthing issue is with the cheap chargers from China.

When I lost my cellphone charger I had to buy a Chinese one, well, when charging it looked like possessed by the Devil itself lol! The screen started acting strange and I wasn't able to control it... Then I found my original charger and the exorcism was complete lol^2! BTW, a guy on X10 mini pro community (one of the best developers I ever met - my favorite one ) lost a cellphone with a Chinese charger, so what can I say - be careful with it!
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[Q] Pandora sleep

Just got my Nexus 10. Where is the Menu button?
I'm looking for the sleep timer in Pandora. I know I could access it under the Menu button in other device, but this Nexus 10 doesn't have the Menu button and not showing anything similar. I dig under settings but nothing there about SLEEP.
Background, I did all the updates and got KitKat. I don't know what they change/improve with KitKat but I'm not impress.
A few more questions...... should I dig to find the CPUID if worse come to worst should I need it? My A500 needed the CPUID to get access when it bite the dust. I hadn't root or anything yet, I did that with the A500 but seem nothing I do need root. I spent months looking through and trying to fix my A500. Nothing work. Can't flash any of the ROM, can't restore. All I got are Acer logo/dead android icon/attempting to read backup.zip rom from microSD. Seem like the memory is corrupted.
What accessories do you get for your Nexus 10? I got the adapter cable miniUSB to full size USB so I can plug in my flash drive. Sux Nexus don't have microSD.
What case do you like and why?
thanks.
PS: I did search and seem like none of you guys sleep listening to music.

Lots of view but nobody is replying... how come?
I can't believe this tablet take so long to charge from zero % to 100%. I've start charging it since 9am and now it's 4:12pm and only 97% charged. wow Using the AC charger that come with this tablet. Manual said the charger is 2A but the tiny text spec on the charger said 0.2A.

Well I can answer the charging. Buya pogo charger. Also for a case the moko slim is a good cheap case.
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abdel12345 said:
Well I can answer the charging. Buya pogo charger. Also for a case the moko slim is a good cheap case.
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thanks for the reply. I read it wrong... input is 100-240 with 0.35A. The output is 2A at 5V. That match with the owner manual. But wow that is a very long time to full charge. I think spec for USB is 3A max. I'll check out the moko case later. thanks.

battery charge time, usb.
workerantDroid said:
Lots of view but nobody is replying... how come?
I can't believe this tablet take so long to charge from zero % to 100%. I've start charging it since 9am and now it's 4:12pm and only 97% charged. wow Using the AC charger that come with this tablet. Manual said the charger is 2A but the tiny text spec on the charger said 0.2A.
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USB is limited to 5V, the charger is putting out 2A, or 2000ma per hour so 9000Mah should = 4.5 hours, But:
max microusb can handle 1.8A, so it becomes 5 hours.
Power loss in charging (e.g. heat) is about 10%-20% (each battery is different) so becomes 5.5-6.25hr
Above 85%, to protect the battery from overheating and over-voltage, as part of battery longevity, it slowly moves into trickle charge. Compare how long it takes from say 60%-70% to 90%-100%, there is little to gain in waiting to go from 97% to 100%. Next time look after 6 hours it should have been 90%. See this chart.
You can overcome one of these limitations by use of Pogo cable which isn't limited by 1.8A of microUSB and can give 2A. Side-benefit is it is magnetically connecting so doesn't wear out your data socket microUSB with all the plugging in to get electricity. It will still trickle-charge but get you to 85% faster.
I confirmed today that the Pogo cable does not disable the microUSB socket i could use a USB harddrive (Stickmount) and use my 4G USB dongle (PPP-Widget, kernel replacement), whilst receiving power, but the 2Amp input is still not enough to charge and tax the N10 with power demands, it was slowly still discharging powering ~600mah USB harddrive plus full brightness display plus Wifi was >2A slightly.

workerantDroid said:
thanks for the reply. I read it wrong... input is 100-240 with 0.35A. The output is 2A at 5V. That match with the owner manual. But wow that is a very long time to full charge. I think spec for USB is 3A max. I'll check out the moko case later. thanks.
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Also the menu button should pop up on the right side of the soft key bar in apps that need it. And if you want faster charging you can buy a pogo cable which charges faster but it costs 25 dollars. I would recommend just charging before going to sleep and remove it early in the morning. It takes about 5-6 hours to charge fully from a low battery like 10 percent so an extra hour shouldn't make a difference on the charger. I looked it up and it said that it's best not to leave it longer than 9 hours on charge but less than that should be fine and that was for a phone so im sure the tablet can stay longer without issues.
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workerantDroid said:
What accessories do you get for your Nexus 10? ....
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So there is an accessories thread.....
So I've had a N7 for 17 month and a N4 for 11 month and N10 for 4 days. My experience has led me to focusing on energy input to balance the large output from the larger screen. Battery logs shows a lot more goes into the display than my N7. The power input is still only limited by microUSB plus you got the trickle-charge >85%.
So here's my list:
A dual 2.1A PSU, to get as much current as possible from the wall when I'm near a wall. The Samsung supplied one is 2Amp which is perfectly fine as the supplied MicroUSB cable is limited to 1.8A anyways, so the Pogo cable not having that limit is limited by the PSU so got a slightly higher Ampage one which can also charge something else concurrently. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BSC7FW0/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
A 2Amp-input slim battery, this is only 5000mah but there are larger. This one fits in my pocket slim like my N4 and N7 I got larger 7000mah and 12000mah USB batteries which only 1A input. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EK3UHS8/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Pogo cable which is not limited by the 1.8A of the microUSB port, it complements the 2.1A PSU http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B2166BS/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Case with removable keyboard. " MoKo BlueTooth Wireless Keyboard Cover Case for Google Nexus 10" (10-inch) Tablet by SAMSUNG, BLACK " but doesn't seem sold any more, it is to go beyond the edges of the N10 itself to assist with a drop-test and comfortable props on my lap or on desk with/without keyboard. The Pogo cable also complements the case as its magnetically connected so if cable is pulled it will come away easier and no damage to the N10 microUSB socket.
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PS: I did search and seem like none of you guys sleep listening to music.
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Hmmm, I do in hotels and other situations where noise is an issue sleep with noise-isolating headphones, a Buff to keep headphones in my ears and either a brown noise or pink noise depending what is the noise type in the hotel, works good when the guy in the floor above bangs his doors from 1am and the guy next door banging around from 5am. I'd typically NOT do that with a N10 but my N4 which I have anyways in Airplane mode to not be disturbed and with an alarm set so I wake when I want to not earlier.
I guess... you mean sleep with music coming through the N10's speakers? Well its rare I could do that, either wife or someone in next hotel room or I'm on a flight and need headphones which don't annoy the next seat so noise-isolating earbuds are what I use, nice to have the speakers.
I also have one of these http://www.amazon.com/Outdoor-OT6001-Bluetooth-Adapter-Devices/dp/B009A136T2 which allows me to not cable connected to gadget (phone, N7, N10, laptop, etc) and it lets me use regular headphones which only last for me 3-6 months and is cheaper over the long term than bluetooth headphones.

nigelhealy said:
So there is an accessories thread.....
So I've had a N7 for 17 month and a N4 for 11 month and N10 for 4 days. My experience has led me to focusing on energy input to balance the large output from the larger screen. Battery logs shows a lot more goes into the display than my N7. The power input is still only limited by microUSB plus you got the trickle-charge >85%.
So here's my list:
A dual 2.1A PSU, to get as much current as possible from the wall when I'm near a wall. The Samsung supplied one is 2Amp which is perfectly fine as the supplied MicroUSB cable is limited to 1.8A anyways, so the Pogo cable not having that limit is limited by the PSU so got a slightly higher Ampage one which can also charge something else concurrently. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BSC7FW0/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
A 2Amp-input slim battery, this is only 5000mah but there are larger. This one fits in my pocket slim like my N4 and N7 I got larger 7000mah and 12000mah USB batteries which only 1A input. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00EK3UHS8/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Pogo cable which is not limited by the 1.8A of the microUSB port, it complements the 2.1A PSU http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B2166BS/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Case with removable keyboard. " MoKo BlueTooth Wireless Keyboard Cover Case for Google Nexus 10" (10-inch) Tablet by SAMSUNG, BLACK " but doesn't seem sold any more, it is to go beyond the edges of the N10 itself to assist with a drop-test and comfortable props on my lap or on desk with/without keyboard. The Pogo cable also complements the case as its magnetically connected so if cable is pulled it will come away easier and no damage to the N10 microUSB socket.
Hmmm, I do in hotels and other situations where noise is an issue sleep with noise-isolating headphones, a Buff to keep headphones in my ears and either a brown noise or pink noise depending what is the noise type in the hotel, works good when the guy in the floor above bangs his doors from 1am and the guy next door banging around from 5am. I'd typically NOT do that with a N10 but my N4 which I have anyways in Airplane mode to not be disturbed and with an alarm set so I wake when I want to not earlier.
I guess... you mean sleep with music coming through the N10's speakers? Well its rare I could do that, either wife or someone in next hotel room or I'm on a flight and need headphones which don't annoy the next seat so noise-isolating earbuds are what I use, nice to have the speakers.
I also have one of these http://www.amazon.com/Outdoor-OT6001-Bluetooth-Adapter-Devices/dp/B009A136T2 which allows me to not cable connected to gadget (phone, N7, N10, laptop, etc) and it lets me use regular headphones which only last for me 3-6 months and is cheaper over the long term than bluetooth headphones.
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thanks. I ordered that pogo cable. so expensive but no other choice.
I mean the sleep in Pandora. I want to set Pandora to turn off in about 30mins or so. but I can't find this menu to get to set sleep. any1 find this sleep?

workerantDroid said:
I mean the sleep in Pandora. I want to set Pandora to turn off in about 30mins or so. but I can't find this menu to get to set sleep. any1 find this sleep?
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From the Pandora help page:
*Android tablets do not have the built-in sleep timer option.
http://help.pandora.com/customer/portal/articles/1022606

well just a generic timed app killer app?
sharksfan7 said:
From the Pandora help page:
*Android tablets do not have the built-in sleep timer option.
http://help.pandora.com/customer/portal/articles/1022606
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What about killing the Pandora app after a given amount of time? Say this one (I not tried but it looks like a good candidate)

sharksfan7 said:
From the Pandora help page:
*Android tablets do not have the built-in sleep timer option.
http://help.pandora.com/customer/portal/articles/1022606
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I never thought they would remove that specifically for tablet. never occur to me. thanks. at leat that confirm I'm not blind.