Hi, I was just at the store today and felt that I wanted to compare my screen to the s4 a bit after arguing with my friend about amoled screens, it showed that I was right. I have always been complaining about their bad white balance and inaccurate colors(even without display settings!),
but still xperia Z don't have the best viewing angels but that doesn't matter to me at all, even looking at angels on the amoled it gets reflective and miserable...
Same picture downloaded at both devices (white picture)
Both screens at 100% light
Now judge yourself, no editing done and picture taken with my friends HTC sensation xl
I must say s4 has also very low screenlighting and won't stand a chance this summer in a sunny day
Is the xperia Z a clear winner?
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Indeed it is!
Both phones was less yellow but the camera of my friends HTC is oversaturating yellow a bit, but the difference was exactly the same as in the picture
Their true colors are shown in the right middle of the s4 and the left middle of the xz as the autofocus was there
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No doubt someone from the samsung camp will go on about how 'deep' the blacks are though
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No doubt someone from the samsung camp will go on about how 'deep' the blacks are though
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Lol, true blacks, 90% while browsing on the Internet, play store is white and most apps up to 70%, now they have nothing to say about colors I guess
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kalo88 said:
No doubt someone from the samsung camp will go on about how 'deep' the blacks are though
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Yeah.. but the deep blacks aren't helping the S4 either! All S4 models (exynos5 or snapdragon version) received by users so far seem to be plagued by yet another AMOLED screen issue, purple/pink smearing is what they're calling it. There is sort of pink/purple smudging if a white/grey image is moved/scrolled over a black background like when scrolling in the settings menu, browsing web with dark bg etc.
Edit: About the whites, of course the XZ screen is better calibrated.
The joys of being an early adopter eh!
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Lol, true blacks, 90% while browsing on the Internet, play store is white and most apps up to 70%, now they have nothing to say about colors I guess
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Most of my apps, playstore, facebook, whatsapp, dialer, message, contacts and a few more are all black in color. Those apps looks better in black.
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Actually it was worse than I though it would be, I expected s4 to be better than s3 and it was even worse?
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Hmm, have you turned on the backlight on s4? Looks pretty dark.
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S4 screen brightness cannot be on par with LCD's brightness. Even so, your photo makes it look really dark in both phones.
btw, S4 screen's white is much better than S3, I would say the color balance is nearly the same as IPS LCD, very vibrant and punch colors. However, it seems your unit also suffers the red/pink tint in the white.
OK I have to agree that:
1. The Z's white is essentially white whereas the S4...I don't know what to make of it.
2. The Z's LCD is brighter though I have not yet had the chance to properly check the S4 with the backlight on. I will check and update.
So, I was lucky enough to my hands on the S4 LTE version yesterday (my wife was due for an $0 upgrade and she didn't want it as she loves her Note 2, so I jumped at the chance and now I will be comparing both the Z and S4 for a week or 2 before deciding on which one to keep. I'll be posting a separate thread on my findings.
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Hmm, have you turned on the backlight on s4? Looks pretty dark.
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Yes brightness at 100% on both
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press_enter said:
Hmm, have you turned on the backlight on s4? Looks pretty dark.
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(assuming that you aren't being sarcastic/facetious)
In an OLED display the individual pixels themselves glow, unlike an LCD display
where the pixels are colour filters with a fixed backlight common to
all pixels shining through to make them light up.
There is as much need/use for a back-light in an OLED display as there is
for a back-light on a light globe/bulb.
So looking on this pictures it seems Galaxy S one has better screen then both appart from low pixely density(grainy picture).
I'm satisfied with screen on Xperia Z but when I look at Galaxy S its hard to go back on X Z screen. It may be oversaturated but if anyone has similiar device to compare screens side by side you will be amazed how this older phone still has excellent screen compared to most new phones (htc one x, htc one, s4, iphone 5,etc).
I compared both, and I think the camera cannot capture it truely, and it's not fair to compared in this way
One thing is with automatic brightness, S4 is much birghter (475 nits compared to a little more than 300 nits of maximum mannual brightness)
The Galaxy S4 uses one innovative approach to overcome this – when Automatic Brightness is turned on, the Peak Brightness becomes significantly brighter in high ambient lighting than is possible with Manual Brightness, up to as high as 475 cd/m2, which is 34 percent higher than is possible with Manual Brightness. This is done so that users can’t permanently set the brightness to very high values, which would run down the battery quickly.
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Very reasonable that nobody needs more than 300 nits to read indoor. (actually 200 nits is even more than enough)
It's the same on Note 2, and there is an app name "A Brighter Note" (rooted) that allows maximum manual brightness matches maximum auto brightness.
hung2900 said:
I compared both, and I think the camera cannot capture it truely, and it's not fair to compared in this way
One thing is with automatic brightness, S4 is much birghter (475 nits compared to a little more than 300 nits of maximum mannual brightness)
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S4_ShootOut_1.htm
Very reasonable that nobody needs more than 300 nits to read indoor. (actually 200 nits is even more than enough)
It's the same on Note 2, and there is an app name "A Brighter Note" (rooted) that allows maximum manual brightness matches maximum auto brightness.
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The OLED theology has not yet surpassed LCD,
and as in your article wrote
"OLED displays are generally not as bright as the brightest LCD displays."
It isn't as bright either
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The OLED theology has not yet surpassed LCD,
and as in your article wrote
"OLED displays are generally not as bright as the brightest LCD displays."
It isn't as bright either
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Brightest LCD display on mobile is Nokia 701 (more than 1000 nits), not Xperia Z
And I think you still don't get my point. The pic you showed innitially is the comparison of XZ to 300 nits brightness of S4 which is not the maximum capacity the device can get (475 nits), that's why it looked pretty dim
hung2900 said:
Brightest LCD display on mobile is Nokia 701 (more than 1000 nits), not Xperia Z
And I think you still don't get my point. The pic you showed innitially is the comparison of XZ to 300 nits brightness of S4 which is not the maximum capacity the device can get (475 nits), that's why it looked pretty dim
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But the brightness difference between s4 and xz was far beyond 34%, even though it would get the chance to go to it's maximum it wouldn't be higher than xz, if I put my brightness to about 40% they will be at the same level,
Then xz has 60% left to show
and s4 34%
And what I also don't like is the pink color which is supposed to be white
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But the brightness difference between s4 and xz was far beyond 34%, even though it would get the chance to go to it's maximum it wouldn't be higher than xz, if I put my brightness to about 40% they will be at the same level,
Then xz has 60% left to show
and s4 34%
And what I also don't like is the pink color which is supposed to be white
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Yes, I know that it will not exceed the brightness on XZ, but you still don't get my point.
I mean the the gap of screen brightness is not as big as your first picture if the S4 showed the highest brightness it can get (which can achieve right after being rooted).
And 300 nits is enough for indoor reading in any case. The use of the more birghtness is for reading outdoor only (or maybe for somebody wanna show off how bright the device is), but brightness is not everything for outdoor visibility. Contrast and reflectiveness is also important.
This one showed that S4 is quite close to HTC One in visibility
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So I've read a bunch of reviews of the S4 and they ding it a fair bit for its screen brightness. Anandtech, AndroidCentral, Engadget, Giz....they all say the screen is dim compared to newer LCD. I'm sure some of you have seen Displaymate's review of the S4 screen. They gave it an excellent review, but what stood out to me is that the screen is MUCH brighter on autobrightness than whats possible by adjusting it with the slider (from 355 nits to 475 nits, iphone being 556 nits). I have not seen any other S4 reviewer point this out, not even Anandtech, who are usually very technical with their reviews and go to great lengths to discover and point out all the caveats of devices. Im wondering, did most reviewers miss this or is Displaymate somehow wrong about there assessment. Those with the S4, or better yet an S4 and a iPhone/HTC One, care to shed some light on this?
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So I've read a bunch of reviews of the S4 and they ding it a fair bit for its screen brightness. Anandtech, AndroidCentral, Engadget, Giz....they all say the screen is dim compared to newer LCD. I'm sure some of you have seen Displaymate's review of the S4 screen. They gave it an excellent review, but what stood out to me is that the screen is MUCH brighter on autobrightness than whats possible by adjusting it with the slider (from 355 nits to 475 nits, iphone being 556 nits). I have not seen any other S4 reviewer point this out, not even Anandtech, who are usually very technical with their reviews and go to great lengths to discover and point out all the caveats of devices. Im wondering, did most reviewers miss this or is Displaymate somehow wrong about there assessment. Those with the S4, or better yet an S4 and a iPhone/HTC One, care to shed some light on this?
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It is much brighter on autobrightness under very strong environmental light. You can't achieve the full brightness under normal condition.
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It is much brighter on autobrightness under very strong environmental light. You can't achieve the full brightness under normal condition.
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If it reaches maximum brightness only under sunlight, I'm ok with that, and I would imagine most people wouldn't mid as well. What I don't get is why reviewers seemed to have either not noticed this or left it out of their articles. I don't really think Samsung did the right thing here by limiting the brightness level when set manually, but Its also misleading for all the reviews to say that the maximum brightness of the S4 is around 200-250 nits lower than the competition, if its in fact about 100 nits lower under conditions where it truly matters
Subscribed. Also, per the Anandtech review, then screen mode affects display brightness as well.
Currently in auto, adaptive until I learn more.
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Does anyone know if we can tap into the maximum brightness through root or otherwise?
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Subscribed. Also, per the Anandtech review, then screen mode affects display brightness as well.
Currently in auto, adaptive until I learn more.
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Yup, Anandtech pointed out that "Movie" mode is brighter and has the truest colors
The movie mode looks like crap, lol
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The movie mode looks like crap, lol
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Personal opinion. I actually prefer movie mode since it makes it look more like an LCD screen. To each their own, though.
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Personal opinion. I actually prefer movie mode since it makes it look more like an LCD screen. To each their own, though.
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I've always preferred LCDs too, but going from standard to movie is tough.
I'm all for natural colors, too. Either way, even on standard, colors are more natural than my s3.
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did anyone notice a purple/pink ish haze on the bottom portion of the screen? or is it a defect?
Nope. Mine is uniform. Pics?
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If we root the S4, is it possible to reach the same brightness allowed by the auto brightness? Is there a utility to make it so we can get to the Mac brightness without the auto brightness or by modifying it somehow?
Everyone who's owned a SIII knows the screen is completly useless when it comes to the sun being shined at it. Cannot see anything. What about the S4? Same issue? Just curious about to buy one
Also how's the screen for you all? =)
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I haven't found it too bad, I have found the auto brightness to adjust really well. It hasn't been too sunny here though
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Everyone who's owned a SIII knows the screen is completly useless when it comes to the sun being shined at it. Cannot see anything. What about the S4? Same issue? Just curious about to buy one
Also how's the screen for you all? =)
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I don't have an S4 yet but a report by displaymate a couple of days ago showed that when you have auto brightness turned on the AMOLED screen is just as bright as the brightest LCDs out there (around 475 nits). Of course you can't set this amount of brightness manually since you would overheat your phone and cause screen burn in if you did. That is why Samsung only allows this for when you have on auto brightness. Since as soon as you go back indoors it will lower the brightness back down.
Long time S3 user (launch) and just picked up the S4 yesterday. The screen, in terms of quality, offers a noticeable improvement over the S3. I migrated everything over from one phone to the other and there's no mistaking which is which. The total difference, however, is less than the difference we saw going in the S2->S3 IMO.
In bright light, unfortunately, they're basically the same as far as I can tell. The auto-brightness setting seems more conservative on the S4 (possibly to help with thermal issues), but I haven't had a chance to crank it up all the way out in the sun.
If screen brightness matters a lot to you, I urge you to take a look at the EVO. The LCD screen on that is much improved, extremely bright as usually, and the blacks are getting considerably blacker (see anantech review). I myself played with it for a half hour but quickly jumped back on the S4 since it fits me better.
I've owned every galaxy phone since the galaxy epic. (Sprint qwerty phone) AMOLED screens are great despite no anti glare features.
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Screen is great until your moving grey on a black background and then you have weird purple smears going on. Not sure if it's a faulty display or just 'how it's meant to be'
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The screen is stunning! Extremely sharp with smooth text and eye popping colours, its basically like Apple's Retina display on iP5 but with AMOLED benefits on top.
In sunlight it fares well from my experience, better than S3, IMO, its a lot less reflective.
Stunning!
6 Stars.
I was playing around with the GS4 yesterday and the screen probably impressed me the most. I held it next to the GS3 and it was quite a bit better: sharper and brighter.
I haven't had the opportunity to look at the One yet, but I have to think the GS4 is a strong contender for the best phone screen. Of course it depends on your preference for AMOLED versus LCD; I probably prefer the former.
So to those who have been using the phone: how would you rate the screen? Do you consider it a big jump over the GS3 and how would you compare it to other phone screens, especially the One?
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I was playing around with the GS4 yesterday and the screen probably impressed me the most. I held it next to the GS3 and it was quite a bit better: sharper and brighter.
I haven't had the opportunity to look at the One yet, but I have to think the GS4 is a strong contender for the best phone screen. Of course it depends on your preference for AMOLED versus LCD; I probably prefer the former.
So to those who have been using the phone: how would you rate the screen? Do you consider it a big jump over the GS3 and how would you compare it to other phone screens, especially the One?
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WAY better than GS3 but trades shots with the One.
I prefer a larger screen with true blacks so I prefer the GS4's screen. If you prefer a smaller screen and colour accuracy then the One's screen would be better.
"The best" is highly subjective. For instance, if you prefer outdoor visibility, it's still nowhere near iPhone or the One. That said, I prefer (properly calibrated) AMOLEDs for the contrast ratios and superior blacks despite all the drawbacks
Personal preference, really.
I have a One, and I have had a look at the S4 display. I have to say both displays look great.
You like Amoled then this is the best, if you like LCD real colors then One is the best. Personally prefer the One display.
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It really depends on your preference. I have owned all the Galaxys, and some sony/HTC`s and i will say it is not.
There is no doubt the S4 screen is amazing, but only when it comes to colours. After using the S4 for a period of time, my eyes is starting to get tired. And thats because of the deep, saturated colours.
In the end it comes up to your personal preference. For me the Xperia Z/One is the best one. Nothing beats watching a movie on an LCD-panel.
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While I love the screen on my GS4, I must humbly admit the SLCD3 screen in the HTC One is superior. While the blacks aren't completely black because it can't shut off pixels like AMOLED does, it's blacks are however very very impressive, color accuracy and sharpness are also more superior on the HTC One as well (the S4's Adobe RGB mode, aka (Professional photo) looks off a bit, especially on reds, so don't be fooled into thinking this option will make up for the inferior color accuracy). The only downside to the HTC One's screen, is it's only 4.7" which is a knock in my opinion as I prefer a larger screen.
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It really depends on your preference. I have owned all the Galaxys, and some sony/HTC`s and i will say it is not.
There is no doubt the S4 screen is amazing, but only when it comes to colours. After using the S4 for a period of time, my eyes is starting to get tired. And thats because of the deep, saturated colours.
In the end it comes up to your personal preference. For me the Xperia Z/One is the best one. Nothing beats watching a movie on an LCD-panel.
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So use Adobe RGB mode...
No it has really bad ghosting.
One of the best. I've recently switched to "movie mode" as various professional display reviewers have noted this mode as having the most accurate colors and I've been loving it. Feels more like an LCD which I used to prefer. I was also surprised at the amount of additional detail I'm seeing in movie mode that were not present in standard (for instance, the tapatalk app icon)
You will need a day to adjust from standard mode, but once you do I'm betting the standard will be hard to look at for you.
The resolution and PPI speak for themselves, obviously.
Edit: great info here http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S4_ShootOut_1.htm
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Note 2 screen looks great. No pen tile.
my gnote2 is bigger than your puny iPhone.
The s4 screen has a wow factor since the colors pop and the blacks are inky. The One's screen is great too much IMHO, the I prefer the S4 since it is bigger and more vibrant. The One's screen is like looking at the Iphone's screen but bigger since even on the Iphone you can't see pixels so it didn't wow me as much.
Guys i just compared my s3 to also mine s4 and must say the s3 display is sharper and I see more details on it. I just run few same clips on both. Can someone confirm it.
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Samsung displays are horrible when it's outside in bright sunlight.
If you want vibrant colours they are the best. If you want realistic I'd say the One and iPhone 5 are the best. The movie mode is very good on the S4 but it's not as well calibrated as the iPhone 5s screen. Looking in the forum the S4 has ghosting/smearing and some weird pink tint issues. AMOLED screens also are poor in daylight and can get burn in.
Now that it has an option to show accurate colors. Displaymate rate it on par with iPhone 5 which is rated as the best LCD screen they tested in a mobile phone. For me SGS4 is the best out there simply because it offers best of both worlds. There is a mode to show vibrant colors which I personally like especially when watching movies. LCD will pale in comparison next to AMOLED which can show pitch black . It is still Pentile arrangement however I tried hard looking closely as I can and men I can't see any pixels or cross hatch pattern that I can detect on SGS3. I even think that it's icons are much sharper compared to iPhone 5. Now that the Pentile weakness has been totally eliminated by ridiculous 441 pixels per inch. Is there another phone out there that can beat this in terms of display?
From Displayemate which is world renowned for display diagnostics
Comparing the Galaxy S4 with the LCD Display on the iPhone 5:
The iPhone 5 is now more than half way through its product cycle, which is important to keep in mind for our comparison. However, high-end LCDs like the iPhone 5 are a very mature and refined display technology, so other than screen size, resolution, and the Pixels Per Inch not much is likely to change in the next generation, no matter what Apple decides to do. The iPhone 5 is significantly brighter than the Galaxy S4, particularly for screens with mostly peak white backgrounds. Its color calibration is a bit better, although the Galaxy S4 has a more accurate White. The Galaxy S4 has a much bigger screen, higher resolution, higher PPI, much darker blacks, and better screen uniformity than the iPhone 5. They each have their own particular strengths and weaknesses, but if you scan our color coordinated Comparison Table below, both displays are quite good and comparable overall – so it’s currently a tie – we’ll see how they both evolve and improve in the next generation…
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Note 2 screen looks great. No pen tile.
my gnote2 is bigger than your puny iPhone.
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With the current pentile matrix they are using and as high density as the 1080P display is, it doesn't affect the quality of the display.
Pentile really is no longer a useable arguement.
Seriously guys, calibration is not an issue. As long as you can get rid of that blue tint, I'm sure you'll get Perseus kernel with top calibration. I do on my Note II and it's absolutely perfect, if not better. Properly calibrated, AMOLEDs have an advantage when it comes to the contrast ratios.
Brightness still sucks though.
I've alway thought Samsung screens always looked too blueish and not so true to life. HTC always seems to get it right when it comes to screens. Just my opinion.
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The ones slcd is superior to the sgs4... Yes the colors are more vibrant and black is real black... But there are too much downsides in my opinion:
- White just doenst look white - ok and full brightness, but not below that
- Loss of detail in dark areas
- Low brightness on automode (even on +5)
- Low brightness on maximum brightness (the ones slcd is superior in sunlight)
- Burn-In
- Pentile - still visible for me
- Smearing / ghosting
- power consumption on browsing
- red black (fixed?!)
Any information on the screen technology used on the S5?
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Any information on the screen technology used on the S5?
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I think its still pentile.
I was just on Google searching for this without answer. I didn't watch the live event but I'm going to assume it's pentile, I've seen no reference of a "plus" following the display type sadly
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if it's Pentile, then S5 will be the first Galaxy S phone not to have any screen technology improvement over the previous model.
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if it's Pentile, then S5 will be the first Galaxy S phone not to have any screen technology improvement over the previous model.
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You can't know what samsung have done inside 5.1 AMOLED FHD screen. I thing color will more accurate and brighter.
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I meant in terms of pixel count and total subpixel count.
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I saw errica,s mini review. She said it is still pentile.
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That's got to suck...
Samsung has been stuck on the 1080p pentile since S4.
I bet the Note 4 will also be pentile.
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Does it really matter? I see this PenTile thing as pure whining, you'll never notice it in a 1080p screen unless you put your device under a microscope to use it.
Yes it does matter. And I am not whining because the screen technology has not improved after three devices.
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Yes it does matter. And I am not whining because the screen technology has not improved after three devices.
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So apply for a job at Samsung and teach them how to do it.
Seriously, S3 -> S4 was 720p to 1080p jump.
S4 -> S5 was the "screen now is brighter and can be very dim" jump.
I think you are complaining just because you were fool enough to believe the rumours.
Interesting article comparing the two technologies here
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/the-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-has-a-pentile-display-what-is-it-and-why-should-you-care/
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if it's Pentile, then S5 will be the first Galaxy S phone not to have any screen technology improvement over the previous model.
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Of course it will have technological improvements. The Note 3 was also "just" 1080p pentile and DisplayMate called it one of the best screens ever they tested, 600nits of brightness in auto mode under sunlight, improved color accuracy and more efficient operation. You bet the S5 screen is further improved, as well as SW modes to choose the most colorful or most accurate for your liking... this phone is only a disappointment if you judge by the looks, so far it's very promising all around.
If you guys missed it during the launch, s5 has brightest led screen ever made by Samsung @500 nits. Pentile vs rgb argument is a total bull**** for phones with full hd screens
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If you guys missed it during the launch, s5 has brightest led screen ever made by Samsung @500 nits. Pentile vs rgb argument is a total bull**** for phones with full hd screens
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It does have the brightest OLED screen, but LCD LED screens have been far brighter then that. The old LG Optimus Black from 2011 had a 700 nit screen and my Nexus 7 goes to almost 600 nits.
I saw a video of the Sony Z2 and Samsung S5 side by sidem and while the screen was definately brighter on the Samsung, it was also looked worse because the colors were too bright and washed out. I don't think OLED looks good when it's so bright.
But i can't be sure until i actually see it in person.
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It does have the brightest OLED screen, but LCD LED screens have been far brighter then that. The old LG Optimus Black from 2011 had a 700 nit screen and my Nexus 7 goes to almost 600 nits.
I saw a video of the Sony Z2 and Samsung S5 side by sidem and while the screen was definately brighter on the Samsung, it was also looked worse because the colors were too bright and washed out. I don't think OLED looks good when it's so bright.
But i can't be sure until i actually see it in person.
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The Note 3 goes up to 660cd/m2.
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note3_ShootOut_1.htm
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It does have the brightest OLED screen, but LCD LED screens have been far brighter then that. The old LG Optimus Black from 2011 had a 700 nit screen and my Nexus 7 goes to almost 600 nits.
I saw a video of the Sony Z2 and Samsung S5 side by sidem and while the screen was definately brighter on the Samsung, it was also looked worse because the colors were too bright and washed out. I don't think OLED looks good when it's so bright.
But i can't be sure until i actually see it in person.
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from what i have heard from Francisco z2 is the best screen sony has come up with so far... if im not wrong its the lcd screens that loses color at max brighntess
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The Note 3 goes up to 660cd/m2.
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note3_ShootOut_1.htm
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then we have to wait for actual results to know what samsung bragged about the screen during the launch
Its not pentile. Geex. I can't believe anybody has pointed out it is still diamond array RGBG. BIG improvement over pentile. Not going to lie though. Even though the RGBG looks fine and comparable to a standard RGB screen I wish it was at least like the galaxy note 2 or moto X screen. RBG with a bigger blue pixel. Looks awesome, can't tell it's not standard RGB stripe and it is efficient. I think the gnote2 and moto x so far have had the most efficient AMOLED screens so far.
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Its not pentile. Geex. I can't believe anybody has pointed out it is still diamond array RGBG. BIG improvement over pentile. Not going to lie though. Even though the RGBG looks fine and comparable to a standard RGB screen I wish it was at least like the galaxy note 2 or moto X screen. RBG with a bigger blue pixel. Looks awesome, can't tell it's not standard RGB stripe and it is efficient. I think the gnote2 and moto x so far have had the most efficient AMOLED screens so far.
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It's PenTile.
The diamond is the arrangement, but it is still PenTile (just as LED HDTVs are still LCD with the LED simply describing the backlight). As you said, it's RGBG (another combo used by Moto was RGBW). RGB is the preferred subpixel layout. But seriously, the layout could be stripe, diamond, or it could be in the shape of a penis for all anyone cares, RGBG is PenTile.
BoneXDA said:
The Note 3 goes up to 660cd/m2.
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note3_ShootOut_1.htm
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So are you saying that the Note 3 is significantly brighter than N2?
I can barely see my phone under the Sun
Granted, they still can't reach the same level of good looking brightness (even if they are "accurate") as top-end LCDs like the iPhone panel, they're getting closer with each generation. It sucks the whites only look best in high dynamic contrast environments with sunlight. AMOLED screen efficiency might take a couple of more years before it can hit 500 knits of brightness on pure white content (or above 70% APL) on maximum manual brightness and not autoboosting
I agree, side by side with my S6 the Note 5 is much cleaner/brighter/sharper.
I have an i6 for work and a Note 5 personally. I much prefer the Note 5 screen in all environments.
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I used iP6, G3 and now the Note 5. For now Note 5 has the best display ever. Colors are popping out of the screen and the blacks are, oh man.. There is nice amount of sharpening too, not too much like the G3.
But the whites.... They are a litte bit weird man. If you directly looking at the screen, the whites are white. If you looking at the screen with different angles, they start to turn a bit yellowish or bluish white depending on your viewing angle.
But not that much of problem, i dont even bother or care it. I'm loving the screen
Deagles said:
But the whites.... They are a litte bit weird man. If you directly looking at the screen, the whites are white. If you looking at the screen with different angles, they start to turn a bit yellowish or bluish white depending on your viewing angle.
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Thats the biggest trade-off with AMOLED's. But, it's more than worth it for everything else we get though compared to LCD
AMOLED screen does not need as high a brightness as LCD screens due to its high (infinite) contrast ratio. Example: people were surprised to learn that the Nexus 6's max brightness is around 250 nits because they were accustomed to brightness readings of LCDs. This is another area where reviewers created reality distortion field in favor of Apple products, and seeing everything else through from that distorted viewpoints.
Do note that I do not dispute that the higher the brightness, the better screen is. I am saying that at the same brightness, AMOLED screen will always be more legible and pleasant to the eyes in changing environments. Comparing the two technologies in the absolute and judging one to be superior is not a smart move.
lopri said:
AMOLED screen does not need as high a brightness as LCD screens due to its high (infinite) contrast ratio. Example: people were surprised to learn that the Nexus 6's max brightness is around 250 nits because they were accustomed to brightness readings of LCDs. This is another area where reviewers created reality distortion field in favor of Apple products, and seeing everything else through from that distorted viewpoints.
Do note that I do not dispute that the higher the brightness, the better screen is. I am saying that at the same brightness, AMOLED screen will always be more legible and pleasant to the eyes in changing environments. Comparing the two technologies in the absolute and judging one to be superior is not a smart move.
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Lol nexus 6 screen was garbage. Some leftover from below par quality amoleds that samsung doesn't use on its phones.
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ambervals6 said:
Lol nexus 6 screen was garbage. Some leftover from below par quality amoleds that samsung doesn't use on its phones.
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Ya, I played around with a Nexus 6 at an AT&T store and held it next to my Note 5 with both at max brightness and my god the Nexus 6 had a ridiculously yellow tint and had the most severe burn ins compared to all the other amoled devices on display in the store. And the difference in max brightness was so significant it looked like the Nexus 6 was at min brightness next to my Note 5 when both were maxed out.