https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mol0mZz3Cg0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlx4_qlB6vA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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That daylight video looks a lot like it's taken in the evening:fingers-crossed::silly::highfive:
This very same video was allready posted in XZ forums. Its night video recording
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That daylight video looks a lot like it's taken in the evening:fingers-crossed::silly::highfive:
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I think Z again handled things best. S4 was again very close but just a bit over exposed and so the flowers looked duller. Also buildings had a tendency to look yellowish and it didn't handle fluctuations in light as well as the Z.
Htc one again, lags behind the others.
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HTC One and S4 sucked compared to XZ, my ranking is:
- Xperia Z: Good colors, looked good for me, also not bad in the details. But sometimes a little problem with refocusing
- SGS4: sometimes way too yellowish and overexposed, didn't look natural at all to me. You couldn't see all details sometimes because off all the overexposure sometimes. But some shots where very good.
- HTC One: also overexposed and too yellowish sometimes, details also not always great.
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I think Z again handled things best. S4 was again very close but just a bit over exposed and so the flowers looked duller. Also buildings had a tendency to look yellowish and it didn't handle fluctuations in light as well as the Z.
Htc one again, lags behind the others.
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Seen this yesterday. Agree with you 100%. The professional photographs tend to like the yellow tint version. Can't see why. There is a white car in the 1st clip. And the XZ clearly shows it white. But the s4 it looks a creamy sorta colour. Big fail for the HTC one though. Think you linked the wrong video.
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S4 sucked compared to XZ and HTC One, my ranking is:
- Xperia Z: Good colors, looked good for me, also not bad in the details
- SGS4: sometimes way too yellowish and overexposed, didn't look natural at all to me. You couldn't see all details sometimes because off all the overexposure sometimes.
- HTC One: also overexposed and too yellowish sometimes, details also not always great
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Krab your going to upset the professionals with that spot on analysis lol
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Well, why do they like the yellowish colors, it doesn't even look natural
And most reviews I've read aren't that good, of you read them you just know they had a preference for SGS4 or HTC One, but most of the time it was SGS4 though, probably Samsung pays them for good reviews, lol still XZ is a great phone
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This very same video was allready posted in XZ forums. Its night video recording
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Do you mean this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2254487
LOL
The first thread failed and the OP decide to open a new one.
Boring....
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Do you mean this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2254487
LOL
The first thread failed and the OP decide to open a new one.
Boring....
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Yea lol and I just saw it's from same person.
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Do you mean this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2254487
LOL
The first thread failed and the OP decide to open a new one.
Boring....
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Stupidity, I posted the wrong video by accident. What an idiot!
I know you love to bash the Zs camera and it upsets you to see the truth.
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Stupidity, I posted the wrong video by accident. What an idiot!
I know you love to bash the Zs camera and it upsets you to see the truth.
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No i don't love to bash the Z's camera.
I am proud to be an XZ owner's but the camera fail in low light,something wrong with black levels,maybe a software issue.
In daylight XZ's camera is a winner here.
I am speaking the truth and i am sure about what i am saying,and if someone gives me an S4 for free i will not take it
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and if someone gives me an S4 for free i will not take it
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Drop test? >
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Stupidity, I posted the wrong video by accident. What an idiot!
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And there I thought that you got my hint when I wrote that it looked like it was filmed in the evening
- HTC one, should be renamed to HTC last, it really is the worst compared to the XZ and the S4
- S4 vs XZ it's a difficult battle because we don't know how the scenes look in real life (So not filmed). I guess the XZ has more natural colors, but it's a close battle. The S4 wins hands down in terms of clarity. The footage of the S4 showed more detail then the XZ, it's hard(er) to see at the flower part, but when buildings are being filmed you can clearly see more details coming from the S4 cam.
So it's a battle between natural colors or clarity/detail.
Step up your game Sony! Show us why people love your camera's soo much!
I think once Sony fix the re-focusing issue the Z has it will be brilliant. Its all in the software though, as if I run the stock JB camera application it doesnt do it nearly as much as the default Sony software..
Galaxy S4 looks yellowish.. I can only attribute this to a filter that has been applied to the camera lens in order to bring out the greens and blues... In the end it doesnt work very well.
The HTC One is a complete fail though... I almost bought the One, but went with the Z instead all because of the camera. So glad I went this way now as I use the camera all the time.
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I am speaking the truth and i am sure about what i am saying,and if someone gives me an S4 for free i will not take it
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I would gladly take the s4 and sell it. hehe .
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And there I thought that you got my hint when I wrote that it looked like it was filmed in the evening
- HTC one, should be renamed to HTC last, it really is the worst compared to the XZ and the S4
- S4 vs XZ it's a difficult battle because we don't know how the scenes look in real life (So not filmed). I guess the XZ has more natural colors, but it's a close battle. The S4 wins hands down in terms of clarity. The footage of the S4 showed more detail then the XZ, it's hard(er) to see at the flower part, but when buildings are being filmed you can clearly see more details coming from the S4 cam.
So it's a battle between natural colors or clarity/detail.
Step up your game Sony! Show us why people love your camera's soo much!
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The videos come from the same French tech site and I unwittingly copied the wrong link.
Innocent mistake. That's all. Well it's corrected now.
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Happy to see how Z works well in videos.
I don't know how come you guys make these evaluations above
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- One: Yellow tint, colors look fake (exactly like when capturing images with day light white balance mode)
- S4: Cannot say it's over-exposed this round. Better contrast (look at leaves at the top of trees - upperhalf of the photo). However, the flowers part - downer half of the photo - seem brighter (a little over exposed). I think it's a good balance. Very good details. A little bit over saturated (green looks greener)
- XZ: So over-exposed at the top of trees, but good in the downer half.
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- One: Nothing to say about the color. However, very nice bokeh effect, but the pay-off is the very aggressive refocusing.
- S4: This time we can say it's over exposed, but does not affect the quality much. A little bit bokeh effect
- XZ: Very nice this round, but no bokeh effect (maybe some people who prefer deeper DoV will not care abt it)
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Louvre scene
- One: very dull
- S4: Good white balance and contrast
- XZ: a little bit dull and purple tint
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I have been in Louvre many times, so I remember the color.
- One: A little yellow tint
- S4: A little over exposed, but nice and quite close to reality, best details
- XZ: pretty purple tint, not nice at all
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Paris street scene
- One: still dim
- S4: best details, bright
- XZ: very close to S4 this round
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- One: Not very dim, but quite over saturated and too yellow tint.
- S4: a little yellow tint, red color looks quite orange
- XZ: best color, but picture looks blurry
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- One: out focusing, looks blurry
- S4: a little bit over saturated (maybe, actually for this criteria we need a superior camera as the reference for evaluation). Again, very good details. Nice white balance
- XZ: quite nice overall, but still blurry and a little bit purple tint
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The rest followed a similar trend
- One: some scenes showed a big problem with exposure and make the brightness not stable and very dim
- S4: bright and very detailed, hard to say it's over exposed, but can say it's over saturated a little bit. Nice white balance
- XZ: overall is good, colors look true but a little bit purple tint
I agree, but I think Xperia Z has less over-saturated colors than S4, and less overcontrast, which produces more natural videos and more detail in shadows.
^^^^^ Agree agree.
The biggest loser here is overhyped HTC One.
Which was supposed to be so amazing after GSMArena test.
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Hello again!
I've been doing a lot of testing lately with the cameras of the Neo & Arc, and so far everything is perfect! The more I test them the more I get convinced that this is for real, and not a market gimmick.
Here you get the exact same photos in auto setting for both the X10 & Arc, see for your selves the difference and you be the judge.
The photos have been taken in low light conditions :
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Good enough or could be better ?
Id say i can take much better low light pictures than that with my X10. Especially the last pic with the mini where its completely out of focus and blurry.
The Arc would still win, no doubt, but those arent as good as the X10 can perform in low light.
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Id say i can take much better low light pictures than that with my X10. Especially the last pic with the mini where its completely out of focus and blurry.
The Arc would still win, no doubt, but those arent as good as the X10 can perform in low light.
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Actually I really tried to be as objective as possible. And to be honest, it's really hard to maintain focus in night time on the X10, whereas you would notice a huge difference when it comes to the Arc.
Anyway, thanks for sharing
Basharca said:
Actually I really tried to be as objective as possible. And to be honest, it's really hard to maintain focus in night time on the X10, whereas you would notice a huge difference when it comes to the Arc.
Anyway, thanks for sharing
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Even though the X10's camera is really good compared to many other phones out there, I'd have say that it's really slow from initiating the app to focusing on the subject and to saving the image after the picture is taken!
having had both... the x10 simply can't compete with the arcs camera.. completely different league.
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jerrytea said:
Even though the X10's camera is really good compared to many other phones out there, I'd have say that it's really slow from initiating the app to focusing on the subject and to saving the image after the picture is taken!
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My thoughts exactly! The interesting thing though is that the X10 already has a top notch camera. So, seeing some of the differences with the Arc now, truly shows that S/E still owns this game, at least in the camera department.
Basharca said:
Actually I really tried to be as objective as possible. And to be honest, it's really hard to maintain focus in night time on the X10, whereas you would notice a huge difference when it comes to the Arc.
Anyway, thanks for sharing
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If i came across as rude that wasnt my intention. I have taken good low light shots with my X10...infinity focus works 10 times better with the camera on the X10 for anything that isnt macro. Night mode works great with steady hands as well. EV control is what makes the camera shine best.
BUT! I seen alot of images from the Arc and the X10 doesnt stand a chance....which only shows how good the Arc is because the X10 is still one of the best camera phones out there.
The colors the Arc produces are absolutely phenominal! Im so jealous.
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Agree, it is a big difference in low light condition!
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If i came across as rude that wasnt my intention. I have taken good low light shots with my X10...infinity focus works 10 times better with the camera on the X10 for anything that isnt macro. Night mode works great with steady hands as well. EV control is what makes the camera shine best.
BUT! I seen alot of images from the Arc and the X10 doesnt stand a chance....which only shows how good the Arc is because the X10 is still one of the best camera phones out there.
The colors the Arc produces are absolutely phenominal! Im so jealous.
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Not at all man! You're a very polite and nice guy
We are here to discuss our opinions, so feel free to say what ever you believe in.
The thing is that The new S/E cameras are stunning! Like you asserted earlier the X10 already has a top notch camera, so seeing the improvements on the Arc & Neo just makes me send my warmest Kudos to Sony really.
Have a good one
High ISO - what you call low-light - is there but it introduces even more noise.
Arc's biggest problem is its horrible JPEG compression: it really looks like someone forgot to take a look at its pics in 1:1...
...once again, great engineers, incompetent management, as always with SE.
What does management have to do with jpeg compression?
1.Since you have mentioned neo. I am eager to know the camera performance of arc vs neo. Coz gsmarena has mentioned that arc takes better picture than neo.
Im thinking of shifting to SE neo or arc. Depend upon camera performance.
2. one more thing, no site mentioned about the capture rate. Ex. Engadget said x10 has more detail than arc despite having less mp. But we all know x10 takes lot many msec than arc so pic comes blurr.
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my friend has a Samsung Star 1, I think it can beat the arc in low light conditions, I'll compare the two phones as soon as I can.
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my friend has a Samsung Star 1, I think it can beat the arc in low light conditions, I'll compare the two phones as soon as I can.
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And a friend of mine have the samsung wave... I was so ashamed when we compared the 2 phones under low light conditions... Exmor R my @ss!!!!
That's weird.. cos I've never seen a phone take low light pics as good as the Arc.
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And a friend of mine have the samsung wave... I was so ashamed when we compared the 2 phones under low light conditions... Exmor R my @ss!!!!
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Couldn't agree more - great pics in daylight, piss poor in low light. Tried tweaking the camera settings but to no avail. Am wondering if anything i froze with titanium could have degraded the camera quality at all..?
If you want to take pictures, for instance, of a drunk friend of yours dancing like crazy in a club with poor lightning, just to show them to some other friends later, the Arc/Arc S surely wins, since it easily captures decent detail even in the darkest spots. But don't expect comments like "Wow, your smartphone takes really good pictures at night"... They're way too noisy and 'cheap' for that.
On the other hand, if you want to take pro-like pictures of low-light landscapes such as a city at night or a beautiful sunset, then the X10 is far, far ahead of the Arc.
Let's put it like this:
Arc in Normal scene = Great brightness with heavy noise, no need to keep your hands still.
Arc in Night scene = Lower brightness that in Normal scene with less noise, but you need to keeps your hands as still as possible, so the pic doesn't turn out to be a blur.
X10 in Normal scene = Poor brightness with low levels of noise, no need to keep your hand too still.
X10 in Night scene = Great brightness, even better than the Arc in Night scene, with almost unnoticeable noise, but urgent need to keep your hands completely still.
Not as much brightness as the Arc on Normal scene though.
So, regarding the Brightness/Noise ratio, the X10 has a better camera than Arc.
Still, you might want to notice that the purpose of a camera in a phone is to be able to quickly capture moments of your life, and not take pro-like pics... For that, consider buying a professional camera or so.
my arc s in a very low light condition
it's not that bad IMO.
I have both phones and the Arc's camera is much better.
X10 = dark photo
Arc = bright photo that's good looking
Both tested at the same location
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Hey guys, so I don't know how many of you had a Galaxy S II but I'd be willing to bet a lot of you did. There's a thread over in the international forum about low-light/night performance. It seems Samsung used two different sensors for the GS3, a Sony one and a Samsung one. The Sony one is apparently the better performer. There are different firmware versions. Here's how to check:
*#34971539# and then Phone/CAM FW Ver Check
DO NOT click "Phone to CAM FW Write (rear)".
Mine has ZDFE02 for cam and phone firmware. Apparently the sensors are in plastic housing, and metal housing. It seems it's impossible to tell without disassembling the phone.
Here are some pictures with auto-contrast, auto-noshake, etc off. These were all taken right by my window, with, in my opinion, plenty enough light. Notice the grain on the pack itself.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wcwws42pptan9tm/2012-07-01 13.38.48.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/a4nxuvel7rvockl/2012-07-01 13.39.42.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/htculm6t44o4kw5/2012-07-01 13.39.45.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ckssps8agmczkdc/2012-07-01 13.39.59.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/htd2jkm5qs2a65o/2012-07-01 13.40.09.jpg
The white looks great, as does the ink printed on it, but I can't help but feel it's being oversharpened.
Here are a few more, at my desk with light coming in the window behind me. There's one picture with the lights on. I think you'll be able to tell which one. It's just as noisy, though. Check out the noise on the desk in the speaker pictures.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0qtjcijsfasut8l/20120701_124823.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/bi0xhghgsh3vk3w/20120701_123911.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/9iof2vwk6pk3qv7/20120701_124634.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/m5b7m0j5zr9phwn/20120701_124616.jpg
Post your CAM FW, your phone FW, and some sample pictures with all the auto settings off. These were all taken with auto ISO, though. I still haven't taken actual night pictures. There are some really bad ones in the int'l thread though.
Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1724124
All in all, I'm pretty disappointed with the camera. My SGS2 (Epic 4G Touch) took amaaaaazing pictures, outside AND inside. I hope Samsung releases an updated firmware, or someone figures out a way to hack it and tweak the settings themselves.
Edit: I forgot to say, I got my phone (blue) on June 29th. It was shipped out the 28th. I have a friend who got his (blue) in the mail on the 21st, and his cam FW is GDFD06, but his phone firmware is GDFE01. He hasn't taken pictures yet. I'll bug him about it.
*#34971539# doesn't work on Diet ICS rom. Flashing back to stock rom and will report back. However I was taking indoor photos today and the low light performance indeed does look disappointing.
Cam/Phone FW: ZDFE02
AT&T S3 16GB (White)
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1. iso 400 with auto contrast, finger print smudge on lens
2. iso 400 with auto contrast, smudge wiped off
3. iso 800 without auto contrast, reduced available light
4. iso 800 with auto contrast, same reduced available light as #3
#3 and #4 are not clear due to camera shake/slow shutter
Took some pictures outside. Obviously they're gonna look pretty good. I got some slightly blurry pictures in my garage, despite there being enough lighting for a good focus/shutter speed. I love the macro. Check it, you can still read the text in the ash.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zerd614z9fkbijx/2012-07-01 14.53.02.jpg
Good god, the ISO800 on the bottom looks awful. Just took this, set the ISO manually to 200. Looks WAY better in my opinion. I was blocking most of the light in the room with my shadow.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ppeazpdl2lwxhwk/2012-07-01 15.28.37.jpg
Edit: Took another at ISO100. Crisp as hell. 1/15 shutter.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/117294/2012-07-01 15.34.47.jpg
After checking the EXIF data for my crappy pictures, it looks like the phone is cranking up the ISO between 500-800 to allow for better "artificial" lighting, but introducing tons of noise in the process. My 100 and 200 shots look great compared to the 640-800 shots. Set your ISO to 200, hold it steady, and try taking some pictures. I guarantee they'll look way better, as long as they're not blurry.
This is getting buried. I hope people don't miss this!
Oops, thought it would append my post. I guess this a bump.
Wow... I guess people don't give a **** about their camera. Kind of mindblowing, actually. It's one of the main reasons I got this phone.
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This is getting buried. I hope people don't miss this!
Oops, thought it would append my post. I guess this a bump.
Wow... I guess people don't give a **** about their camera. Kind of mindblowing, actually. It's one of the main reasons I got this phone.
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Lol...the only reason most of these kids got this phone is so they could flash roms and say my **** is the best . Half of them still think the 2 gigs of ram is to future proof the phone...lol...
Camera has its disappointing side though
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Oh well, I guess all we can do is hope for a firmware update from Sammy.
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Oh well, I guess all we can do is hope for a firmware update from Sammy.
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A carrier approved update.....now we really get to see which carrier is the worst with not releasing updates....this phone is going to be great..lol.
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Oh well, I guess all we can do is hope for a firmware update from Sammy.
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Why would a firmware update help if the issue is that different phones have different sensors?
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Because it might turn down the aggressive sharpening or back off on the high ISO...
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Because it might turn down the aggressive sharpening or back off on the high ISO...
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Doubtful. The problem isn't the high iso, for sure. I also don't think software sharpening is the problem. All signs points to there being two different hardware sensors with the sony sensor being vastly superior.
My guess is that all GDxxx firmwares are associated with the Sony sensor and the ZDxxxx firmware is for the Samsung sensor. I hope I'm wrong. Cuz if I'm right, all of us in the US with GS3s are screwed.
Has there been a single US GS3 that has been confirmed with GD firmware?
Shoulda got a HOX. We knew before this phone even came out that the HOX had a better camera.
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i guess this would mean more to me if i used my phone as a camera
F1reEng1neRed said:
Shoulda got a HOX. We knew before this phone even came out that the HOX had a better camera.
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No, it doesn't. You clearly haven't read reviews carefully. The HOX's camera SHOULD have been better than the GS3 due to superior optics (f/2.0 aperture), but in real world use, it wasn't due to a variety of reasons.
I actually did have an HOX (Evo LTE) before the GS3 and returned it for a variety of reasons (one of them being the camera quality)
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No, it doesn't. You clearly haven't read reviews carefully. The HOX's camera SHOULD have been better than the GS3 due to superior optics (f/2.0 aperture), but in real world use, it wasn't due to a variety of reasons.
I actually did have an HOX (Evo LTE) before the GS3 and returned it for a variety of reasons (one of them being the camera quality)
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The title of the OP is low light performance. The HOX's low light is better than the S2 and obviously better than the GS3 if the OP is serious about the S2s being better than the GS3. Besides that, I haven't read a single review saying the GS3s camera is better than the HOX.
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I've got both. (The int'l HOX btw and the TMOUS branded SGSIII) The HOX has a better camera. Period.
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My US version has the GD series. Ordered direct from AT&T and received 6/24.
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I have both a GS3 and a Evo LTE on my sprint account and my unbiased opinion is the EVO has the better camera. Im not hrar to argue you so I 'll leave it at that.
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The title of the OP is low light performance. The HOX's low light is better than the S2 and obviously better than the GS3 if the OP is serious about the S2s being better than the GS3. Besides that, I haven't read a single review saying the GS3s camera is better than the HOX.
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That's not what you said, genius. You said "better camera." Last time, I checked, the two don't mean the same thing And here's one of many reviews:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iii_vs_htc_one_x-review-759p5.php
And I'll tell you right now from personal experience, the GS2 camera was better than the One X camera.
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Babydoll25 said:
I've got both. (The int'l HOX btw and the TMOUS branded SGSIII) The HOX has a better camera. Period.
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It sure as hell didn't have a better camera than the GS2
F1reEng1neRed said:
The title of the OP is low light performance. The HOX's low light is better than the S2 and obviously better than the GS3 if the OP is serious about the S2s being better than the GS3. Besides that, I haven't read a single review saying the GS3s camera is better than the HOX.
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Here's one. http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Nokia-808-PureView-camera-comparison_id3071
BakaNeko59 said:
My US version has the GD series. Ordered direct from AT&T and received 6/24.
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How's your low light performance?
I have written this guide quite some time back during the first week of launch of this Galaxy S3 and forgotten to share this here in xda too. Hope this is able to help some newbie on using their S3 camera. Advance users probably will find my guide too basic.
I do welcome any feedbacks or comments if you found any mistakes or misleading information.
Disclaimer: This is not a professional review and all the findings and opinions are based on my own experience only.
Part 1: Hardware and Features
Part 2: User Interface
Part 3: Limitations
Part 4: Shooting Mode
Part 5: Scene Mode
Part 6: Summary and Conclusion
I'm aware for the new firmware I9300XXBLFB for the camera. Check the changelog
Some sample pictures you will find in the post.
Sample pictures
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very nice review and good conclusion. well done. keep it up.
did you do any post processing at all on those pictures ? i notice less noise (compared to mine) even on high ISO ! i find lot of noise anything more ISO 200!
BTW my cam firmware ZDFE02.
nope, no PP was done. all straight out of camera..
probably have to do with the brightness of the object u r shooting i guess. indoors with ISO 200 still give quite an amount of noise too.
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nice work @op
can you make some comparison of pictures @ poor lighting conditions?
Great post. I know this camera isn't the best one you can get in a smartphone (probably still the iPhone 4S? Or the One X?), but it takes some really good shots, and knowing how to use it properly is all-important.
Thanks!
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I love this guide, really useful, thanks!
bala_gamer said:
nice work @op
can you make some comparison of pictures @ poor lighting conditions?
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what type of low light photos u looking for?
- low light indoor?
- low light outdoor?
- with flash or without flash?
i do have some poor lighting condition photos in the blog anyway. have a look.
or comparisons done by this forum member
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771006
jgristy said:
Great post. I know this camera isn't the best one you can get in a smartphone (probably still the iPhone 4S? Or the One X?), but it takes some really good shots, and knowing how to use it properly is all-important.
Thanks!
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yes, and no. the One X is not a better shooter when compared to S3. Reason bcz One X is not able to capture as much detail and sharpness as S3. The One X is only capable of getting a cleaner image during low light, thanks to its f2.0 lens. Other than that, S3 is a better shooter.
iPhone 4S on the other hand comes in neck in neck. it wins S3 in indoor shots, thanks to its f2.4 lens. But it's a no match for sharpness and details as well to the S3. the metering on 4S however seems better.
i will provide some links to let u have a look on the comparison shots.
http://www.gsmarena.com/pureview_blind_test-review-773.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iii_vs_htc_one_x-review-759p5.php
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/samsung-galaxy-s3-vs-iphone-4s-vs-htc-one-x-vs-xperia-s-camera-test-50008056/
juliano_q said:
I love this guide, really useful, thanks!
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welcome.. just to help..
Thanks, really useful guide, especially for the point-and-hope-for-the-best user - i.e. me....
Should be stickied IMO.
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i will provide some links to let u have a look on the comparison shots.
welcome.. just to help..
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Thanks for those links. Very informative. Reading all this information about my new camera phone, I find I don't have all the new effects under the wand button (even though I've downloaded all available updates), and I don't have the button which lets you take photos during video recording.
Why do you think this might be?
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Thanks for those links. Very informative. Reading all this information about my new camera phone, I find I don't have all the new effects under the wand button (even though I've downloaded all available updates), and I don't have the button which lets you take photos during video recording.
Why do you think this might be?
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probably yr country hasn't receive the updates yet.. just wait for it..
Thanks for the guide It whas very usefull
Strangely when the update came the camera is getting worse not better , yes more options and modes but a lot of distortion .......
I'm talking about the LFB one....
A small question for those who have moved over to an AOSP rom, does the camera take longer to snap a photo? I ask this because obviously the Samsung Rom was built for the zero shutter lag and I have seen demos of the speed in which it snaps photos. But in some videos I have seen CM9 on the S3, it seems when hitting the button it has a small delay where it stills tries to focus before it snaps.
thanks!
ps: getting my S3 on Monday and debating which rom to use as I probably would like to mess around with the new S3 roms.
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A small question for those who have moved over to an AOSP rom, does the camera take longer to snap a photo? I ask this because obviously the Samsung Rom was built for the zero shutter lag and I have seen demos of the speed in which it snaps photos. But in some videos I have seen CM9 on the S3, it seems when hitting the button it has a small delay where it stills tries to focus before it snaps.
thanks!
ps: getting my S3 on Monday and debating which rom to use as I probably would like to mess around with the new S3 roms.
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yes, the S3's camera is using touchwiz framework.. CM9 is not.. hence the slower performance..
demmo81 said:
Strangely when the update came the camera is getting worse not better , yes more options and modes but a lot of distortion .......
I'm talking about the LFB one....
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distortion at the corners? hmm.. i will try to check on mine.. but as far as i'm concerned, distortion mainly due to lens..
farscope said:
yes, the S3's camera is using touchwiz framework.. CM9 is not.. hence the slower performance..
distortion at the corners? hmm.. i will try to check on mine.. but as far as i'm concerned, distortion mainly due to lens..
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its not only on the edges but i feel all the pics specially with low light...
anyway ill provide some samples later on today to explain ... Thanks
demmo81 said:
its not only on the edges but i feel all the pics specially with low light...
anyway ill provide some samples later on today to explain ... Thanks
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awaiting yr samples then.. cz i dont see any significant difference in my pictures in terms of distortion..
farscope said:
awaiting yr samples then.. cz i dont see any significant difference in my pictures in terms of distortion..
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Here r some I just took in the office the camera is trying to increase the light as much as it can although the light conditions r normal but the pic is coming pixeled u know...
Also I noticed the camera is trying to get all the light in that's why its getting worse....
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demmo81 said:
Here r some I just took in the office the camera is trying to increase the light as much as it can although the light conditions r normal but the pic is coming pixeled u know...
Also I noticed the camera is trying to get all the light in that's why its getting worse....
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hmm.. i don't really get what u mean by distortion. my understanding of distortion is the lens distortion where u get straight lines becomes curvy like a barrel distortion for wide angle lens, or the fish eye effect for fish eye lens.
in your sample picture, i cant really get the distortion that u mean. did u mean the deviation away from normal exposures? if that's the case, then it is because most of the subjects in your picture are black/dark colours. Hence, the camera's metering is fooled, by thinking you are shooting in low light and hence increases the exposure. it happens to all camera, it's a weakness of digital metering.
The SCLD3 Display provides extrem wide angles and extrem high pixel density, but what about the Color Saturation?
I have seen the Droid DNA in Real Life and the color Saturation is worse!!
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How the SLCD3 compares to the Droid DNA, One X and Galaxy S3 in terms of Calor Saturation?
Who has more Colour Saturation? I dont want so much Saturation like the S3 but not so less like the Droid DNA/Butterfly!
Supposedly the droid dna has a worse screen than the one x , dimmer and with worse color accuracy, i hope its not the case with the one :crying:
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Supposedly the droid dna has a worse screen than the one x , dimmer and with worse color accuracy, i hope its not the case with the one :crying:
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Yea :crying: pls htc make the one display more saturated :crying:
Someone who has seen the display give us response:crying:
The screen on the Butterfly is the best there is on a phone: its colour saturation is PERFECT.
See, for example, the slides in this comparison with the Xperia Z: www.phonearena.com/news/Screen-comp...-almost-perfect-calibration-by-HTC_id39893#5-
I hope and pray that the screen on the One is as good as the Butterfly's; I think it may well be.
Shasarak said:
The screen on the Butterfly is the best there is on a phone: its colour saturation is PERFECT.
See, for example, the slides in this comparison with the Xperia Z: www.phonearena.com/news/Screen-comp...-almost-perfect-calibration-by-HTC_id39893#5-
I hope and pray that the screen on the One is as good as the Butterfly's; I think it may well be.
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I have seen it on real life and it was undersaturated... My one x display was superior in terms of colour accuray
hamad138 said:
I have seen it on real life and it was undersaturated... My one x display was superior in terms of colour accuray
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Did you determine that using a colorimeter or your eyes?
Shasarak said:
The screen on the Butterfly is the best there is on a phone: its colour saturation is PERFECT.
See, for example, the slides in this comparison with the Xperia Z: www.phonearena.com/news/Screen-comp...-almost-perfect-calibration-by-HTC_id39893#5-
I hope and pray that the screen on the One is as good as the Butterfly's; I think it may well be.
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Eyes and aome reviews of users
hamad138 said:
Yea :crying: pls htc make the one display more saturated :crying:
Someone who has seen the display give us response:crying:
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Just came back from the HTC event in Liverpool today. The screen is one of the best I have seen. The iPhone 4s which my friend was using loses out at the first glance. You wouldn't be able to see any better screen than this with existing devices in the market.
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Supposedly the droid dna has a worse screen than the one x , dimmer and with worse color accuracy, i hope its not the case with the one :crying:
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That was one reviewers opinion. Gizmodo maybe. Can't remember. Anyways I have the evo 4g lte which is the same screen as the one X. I also have the dna and that claim is ridiculous. Screen is amazing. It's better than the one X.
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3dnews.ru/news/642059
About screen on HTC ONE.To translate from Russian.
Maybe
Scroll down to the display section of the page.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one-review-902p2.php
Apparently it isn't very bright like the DNA and Butterfly.
Played around with htc one and got chance to compare it to Xperia z too. The difference is staggering both 1080p but htc one blows z out of the water.
Everything so much sharper, crisper on the one. Best screen out there IMHO.
Previous owner of htc one x, s3, iPhone 5 and note 2 lte.
StooDent86 said:
3dnews.ru/news/642059
About screen on HTC ONE.To translate from Russian.
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If those numbers are correct, then colour accuracy may be very slightly worse than the Butterfly - colour temperature pushed a little to blue, and slightly over-saturated greens - but still very impressive. Better than the One X, especially in terms of black-level. Not exactly optimal testing conditions, either, so worth keeping an open mind.
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hamad138 said:
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What you're talking about, I think, is a matter of personal preference.
There is actually a recognised international standard which defines what TVs and compute displays are supposed to look like: it says exactly what colour white or red should be. If your TV (say) is calibrated to that standard then what you see on your screen when watching a movie is exactly what the guys who made the movie and mastered the recording intended it to look like.
The display on the Butterfly is closer to that standard than any other phone display that I'm aware of, particularly in terms of colour accuracy. So, objectively, the colours on the Butterfly screen are correct. Other displays have MORE colour saturation, yes, but that doesn't mean that the Butterfly's colours are under-saturated, it means the colours on the other phones are OVER-saturated.
Now, of course, no one says you have to like accurate colours. Many people prefer displays where the colours are really bright and exaggerated. It's the same with audio: some people like a recording to sound the way it was intended to sound, other people just like as much bass as possible.
If you prefer inaccurate, exaggeratedly bright, over-saturated colours, that's perfectly reasonable. But you shouldn't go around claiming that the Butterfly's colours aren't accurate. You should say "the Butterfly's colours are really accurate, and I don't like accurate colours, I want a screen where the colours are really oversaturated".
And, to answer your original question: based on the evidence we have at the moment, it looks like the One's colours will be very accurate, so they will look very like the colours on a One X or a Butterfly. They won't be over-saturated like the colours on an S3.
Finally a sensible response. People complaining about saturation levels are almost always talking from the position of people who prefer their over-saturated, over-sharpened, over-contrasted displays which are tweaked that way in order to make them LOOK like they can cope but are not REALISTIC.
My wife has an iPhone 5 and I was recently formatting a couple of her photos for use on her web site. She sent me the original humongous photos because I prefer to work with as high a resolutrion as possible until I reduce it down to web size in png format. My first impression was "WOW ... look at the detail, and the colours are so vibrant" ... well since I've been reading these HTC-One topics, I've become somewhat sensitised to photo quality, and one of the photos was taken of some flowers in the house, so we took her phone to the flowers and compared the colours ... Nope ... good detail, wrong colours and overcooked contrast. Apple post-processing in action.
However ... having said that, and declaring my interest in HTC-One being successful (I have one coming soon) ... I think HTC let themselves down in the early software by over-sharpening. You can see it clearly in the halo artifacts around the black on white printing in the photo of a credit card that's doing the rounds .... I hope that gets sorted out in the final release software ...
Until then ... This isn't bad as a sample of colour quality. I've seen this lace in real life, and thee colours of the glass in the windows and around the roof , the detail inside the rooms though the windows, and the overall colour quality is extremely accurate ... not bad for something taken at night, of an illuminated facade, on a demo phone, using pre-release software ... Good enough for me anyway ...
(found on Twitter)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BD0nlljCUAAt0Lw.jpg:large is the zoomable version if you want a closer look.
riz157 said:
Played around with htc one and got chance to compare it to Xperia z too. The difference is staggering both 1080p but htc one blows z out of the water.
Everything so much sharper, crisper on the one. Best screen out there IMHO.
Previous owner of htc one x, s3, iPhone 5 and note 2 lte.
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Agreed. I played around with the Xperia Z recently, screen was HORRIBLE
It's a shame that Sony is using old tech for their flagship phones.
For me the first spec I check on a phone is the screen.
With the OneX SLCD2 I am very pleased by the screen and colors,much more than sgs2 where colors are way oversatured,so with the One SLCD3 I will be even more pleased
Tomatoes8 said:
Scroll down to the display section of the page.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one-review-902p2.php
Apparently it isn't very bright like the DNA and Butterfly.
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Anyone who says super amoled screens are better I instantly discredit. I'm not five years old. I don't need over emphasized color.
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I love both the Super Amoled and Super LCD or IPS screen. Everyone has different opinion, if you don't like the screen don't get it.
I've played with a htc one. The screen is gorgeous. The dna didn't wow me so much, but the one did. Damn it's a sexy phone. I'll probably buy one outright.
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Look at these samples:
Sony Xperia Z1
http://gavinsgadgets.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/2013-09-21-08-27-51.jpg
Apple iPhone 5S
http://gavinsgadgets.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/img_0052.jpg
I'm not going to say anything further, because a picture tells a thousand words. But what an absolute disgrace this is.
Credit: @gavinfabl http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/
I think Sony need to get the camera fixed asap judging by them photo's.
for other samples is very good, maybe is manual mode causa that.
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for other samples is very good, maybe is manual mode causa that.
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Mate, whatever the mode, my Nokia 7650 took better photos than that. Seriously.
dw1llow said:
Mate, whatever the mode, my Nokia 7650 took better photos than that. Seriously.
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see some samples here http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-Z1-Review_id3427/page/3#2-Samsung-Galaxy-S4
dw1llow said:
Mate, whatever the mode, my Nokia 7650 took better photos than that. Seriously.
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I can confirm that also mine make bad, bad, photo. For me it's not only software problem. More units are assembled in bad way other have right assembled lens so good sample near to iphone 5s or also better
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see some samples here http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-Z1-Review_id3427/page/3#2-Samsung-Galaxy-S4
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Look at this http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/140430-image/Strong-light.jpg
And that's with Strong Light. Don't even bother with low lights.. lol
acer73 said:
I can confirm that also mine make bad, bad, photo. For me it's not only software problem. More units are assembled in bad way other have right assembled lens so good sample near to iphone 5s or also better
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I just hope that it's software/BIONZ problem, that can be fixed via firmware update.
Maybe unlocking the bootloader and losing BIONZ would be a good thing. Only time will tell, when custom roms start rolling out.
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Look at these samples:
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http://gavinsgadgets.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/2013-09-21-08-27-51.jpg
Apple iPhone 5S
http://gavinsgadgets.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/img_0052.jpg
I'm not going to say anything further, because a picture tells a thousand words. But what an absolute disgrace this is.
Credit: @gavinfabl http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/
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It's not disgraceful. The superior auto mode felt an ISO of 1250 was required for that shot compared to iPhone's 320. It's closed to 4 timez iPhone's ISO. The less the ISO, the better the shots are - provided you don't shake too much.
I think it's better to compare shots with similar set ISOs like the outdoor shots where the Z1 did much better.
It's very interesting to note with have threads like "shame on Sony - display lottery", which was proven false and now "disgraceful camera - my Nokia (which Sony sold more phones compared to it) 78blablah takes better photos".
Samsung/Apple fanboys seems extremely insecure about this great product. It's normal. It's called jealousy.
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It's not disgraceful. The superior auto mode felt an ISO of 1250 was required for that shot compared to iPhone's 320. It's closed to 4 timez iPhone's ISO. The less the ISO, the better the shots are - provided you don't shake too much.
I think it's better to compare shots with similar set ISOs like the outdoor shots where the Z1 did much better.
It's very interesting to note with have threads like "shame on Sony - display lottery", which was proven false and now "disgraceful camera - my Nokia (which Sony sold more phones compared to it) 78blablah takes better photos".
Samsung/Apple fanboys seems extremely insecure about this great product. It's normal. It's called jealousy.
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in same post http://www.flickr.com/photos/gavinfabl100/sets/72157635718285964/
samples of z1 have much better color accuracy, but iso is not same, because of this have more noise in z1 samples.
lee480 said:
It's not disgraceful. The superior auto mode felt an ISO of 1250 was required for that shot compared to iPhone's 320. It's closed to 4 timez iPhone's ISO. The less the ISO, the better the shots are - provided you don't shake too much.
I think it's better to compare shots with similar set ISOs like the outdoor shots where the Z1 did much better.
It's very interesting to note with have threads like "shame on Sony - display lottery", which was proven false and now "disgraceful camera - my Nokia (which Sony sold more phones compared to it) 78blablah takes better photos".
Samsung/Apple fanboys seems extremely insecure about this great product. It's normal. It's called jealousy.
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So in such conditions, Z1 users need to set all settings manually which 5S is able to produce automatically, just to match what 5S can do?
And dude, what's with the samsung/apple fanboy crap? I bought a Z1, that makes me a samsung/apple fan? looks like you yourself are a touchy fanboy, being all defensive and sensitive :laugh:
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He is just trying to figure out
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He is just trying to figure out
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Damn right bro. And I've already purchased, and committed, as you can see in my other posts. What's with this fanboy crap, jeese.
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So in such conditions, Z1 users need to set all settings manually which 5S is able to produce automatically, just to match what 5S can do?
And dude, what's with the samsung/apple fanboy crap? I bought a Z1, that makes me a samsung/apple fan? looks like you yourself are a touchy fanboy, being all defensive and sensitive :laugh:
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Nah, if you named your thread more appropriately, it'll be much better.
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Nah, if you named your thread more appropriately, it'll be much better.
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Man, I hate fanboys, but nothing I hate more than fanboys in your own "clan", just makes rest of us look like a-holes.
I just called it as it is. If you don't think that is disgraceful, I don't know what is. It's tough love bro. Don't cry.
Here photos no words. (Thanks to blacktime)
Z1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/urjyaextvptg4gm/DSC_0039.JPG
5s
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0mnq8u4dqr... 51 48.jpg
Z1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s7xtu65ozzfdjtf/DSC_0040.JPG
5s
https://www.dropbox.com/s/r3a902wk7y... 52 02.jpg
Z1 used here it's only item from z1 batch/sample in italian forum that made good photo.
Here my bad photo
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n6vvn07dxh5oo0m/2013-09-18 13.44.09.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nd3gz5suewrh8yg/2013-09-18 13.44.28.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nd3gz5suewrh8yg/2013-09-18 13.44.28.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ccnz3u4e1i1vjfk/2013-09-18 13.45.40.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/krsgaumns9uoprz/2013-09-18 13.46.41.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zgv4b5e3tq6ianu/2013-09-20 17.00.34.jpg
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Man, I hate fanboys, but nothing I hate more than fanboys in your own "clan", just makes rest of us look like a-holes.
I just called it as it is. If you don't think that is disgraceful, I don't know what is. It's tough love bro. Don't cry.
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Lol. Did I hurt your feelings? Don't worry. It's normal. The most shameful users are people who blows this kind of things out of proportion using words like disgraceful and shameful. Don't worry, there's no point and I will not be replying to your "rebuts". Rant all you want. Just don't rain.
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lee480 said:
Lol. Did I hurt your feelings? Don't worry. It's normal. The most shameful users are people who blows this kind of things out of proportion using words like disgraceful and shameful. Don't worry, there's no point and I will not be replying to your "rebuts". Rant all you want. Just don't rain.
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lol you call this blowing out of proportion. hahahaha you really are a blind fanboy. When Sony releases an update to fix the camera issues, i'll assume you won't install it, cus you're perfectly happy with the current performance.
yeah, that's right, walk away lol
Edit. Xperia Z, T, TL, TX, V, S, P, U, wow you really are a fanboy lol
Stop the fight it is unhealthy. i posted the pic to end the fight. this is a development forum do not forget that
acer73 said:
Here photos no words. (Thanks to blacktime)
Z1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/urjyaextvptg4gm/DSC_0039.JPG
5s
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0mnq8u4dqr... 51 48.jpg
Z1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/s7xtu65ozzfdjtf/DSC_0040.JPG
5s
https://www.dropbox.com/s/r3a902wk7y... 52 02.jpg
Z1 used here it's only item from z1 batch/sample in italian forum that made good photo.
Here my bad photo
https://www.dropbox.com/s/n6vvn07dxh5oo0m/2013-09-18 13.44.09.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nd3gz5suewrh8yg/2013-09-18 13.44.28.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nd3gz5suewrh8yg/2013-09-18 13.44.28.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ccnz3u4e1i1vjfk/2013-09-18 13.45.40.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/krsgaumns9uoprz/2013-09-18 13.46.41.jpg
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zgv4b5e3tq6ianu/2013-09-20 17.00.34.jpg
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5s links are broken
I agree with the original poster that camera performance is disgraceful. A phone who's major selling feature is the camera must have camera working perfectly out of the box. I judge a product based on current performance, not what might be sometime in the future. For that reason, I would return the phone and demand a full refund. If everyone affected did that, Sony would be compelled to fix this problem.
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