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[Q] Nexus 10 Root OTA

Hello,
I'm sorry if this has been asked before but a search yielded nothing.
Anyways, I was wondering how an OTA update would work if I merely unlocked the bootloader and rooted the stock ROM without installing a recovery. Would I be able to update directly from Google or not?
Thanks for you help

You will still be able to get the OTA, but you will lose root unless you have an OTA root keeper tool installed.

darkstar107 said:
You will still be able to get the OTA, but you will lose root unless you have an OTA root keeper tool installed.
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To clarify further, would my bootloader remain unlocked? And would rooting be easy on a nexus device?
sorry for the questions but this is my first nexus and thanks for your help

baggy111 said:
To clarify further, would my bootloader remain unlocked? And would rooting be easy on a nexus device?
sorry for the questions but this is my first nexus and thanks for your help
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As far as I'm aware your bootloader will remain unlocked and there are various toolkits that will re-root very simply.
Purists will tell you to stay away from the toolkits but I've had no problems so far.

Pharmbob said:
As far as I'm aware your bootloader will remain unlocked and there are various toolkits that will re-root very simply.
Purists will tell you to stay away from the toolkits but I've had no problems so far.
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I'm used to rooting and using custom rom on all my android devices but since this is my first Nexus, I'd like to keep it as clean as possible.
Rooting and Unlocking preserves the OTA updates that's great. Would flashing a custom recovery prevent OTAs ?

astralmind said:
I'm used to rooting and using custom rom on all my android devices but since this is my first Nexus, I'd like to keep it as clean as possible.
Rooting and Unlocking preserves the OTA updates that's great. Would flashing a custom recovery prevent OTAs ?
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Custom recoveries bork OTA updates, it'll download fine, but wont install.

[Q] Steps to get my phone ready for Android 4.4

Hello!
I recently had Xposed Framework installed. I uninstalled it to get my phone ready for the Android 4.4 OTA.
I have a STOCK ROOTED Nexus 4 with CWM Recovery (Bootloader: Unlocked).
I wanted to download the Android 4.4 OTA once it is released.
Based on what I understand, there are two ways (that I prefer) of receiving this:
1> Unroot the phone and put stock recovery. I had a question with this method:
a: Would I need to lock the bootloader to install the OTA? If yes, on locking would I loose my data?
2> Flashing a binary that would be released on the Google website. I also had a few questions related to this:
a: Would I loose my data if I did so?
b: Do I need to make any changes to my Stock Rooted Nexus 4 with CWM Recovery to follow this method?
Which method would you follow? Or do you have a better method? Please help me out :laugh:
Thank You!

Just go to the ota help desk here on xda and once the ota is being released they will put it in a zip file and you will be able to install it in recovery without losing any data, so just like a normal ota.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app

Thibaultvw said:
Just go to the ota help desk here on xda and once the ota is being released they will put it in a zip file and you will be able to install it in recovery without losing any data, so just like a normal ota.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
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That's great. But what if I want to install the OTA? Wouldn't installing something from the OTA Helpdesk void the warranty?

ak****soota said:
That's great. But what if I want to install the OTA? Wouldn't installing something from the OTA Helpdesk void the warranty?
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No................................................................. this isn't a Samsung phone.
Can anyone confirm you need to unroot or not to receive OTA? (I have never bothered with it since flashing roms). Just make sure you're running unrooted stock rom that is odexed, stock kernel and stock recovery, as far as I know.
If you flash the factory firmware from Google it will wipe out everything, including your /sdcard/ partition. You could wait for a 'stock rom' that is flashable by custom recovery, these don't delete your /sdcard while flashing, these (unrooted odexed) roms should still be able to receive OTA (correct me if I'm wrong).

Yes u will have to unroot to receive OTA.
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ak****soota said:
Hello!
I recently had Xposed Framework installed. I uninstalled it to get my phone ready for the Android 4.4 OTA.
I have a STOCK ROOTED Nexus 4 with CWM Recovery (Bootloader: Unlocked).
I wanted to download the Android 4.4 OTA once it is released.
Based on what I understand, there are two ways (that I prefer) of receiving this:
1> Unroot the phone and put stock recovery. I had a question with this method:
a: Would I need to lock the bootloader to install the OTA? If yes, on locking would I loose my data?
2> Flashing a binary that would be released on the Google website. I also had a few questions related to this:
a: Would I loose my data if I did so?
b: Do I need to make any changes to my Stock Rooted Nexus 4 with CWM Recovery to follow this method?
Which method would you follow? Or do you have a better method? Please help me out :laugh:
Thank You!
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I see so many of these threads and then I see the I bricked my phone going back to stock threads next. Please if you enjoy root and the features it brings you just relax and wait out the update. Your favorite developer will then create a nice new KitKat version with your updates and customizations. Of course do what you like but to unroot and get rid of your custom rom to have stock and then re root to try and get the same effect again just sounds crazy too me.
Patience is a virtue
Edit: but your question is what route to take just so you know there are back to stock threads which would be your best bet to follow if you honestly feel like doing all that to undo it later....

Phone wont update to 4.2.2

My phone downloads the update but the install fails, im also trying to obtain root. I have gotten rid of some bloatware, could that be the problem if so what needs to be on the phone for the update to take?

Reactor903 said:
My phone downloads the update but the install fails, im also trying to obtain root. I have gotten rid of some bloatware, could that be the problem if so what needs to be on the phone for the update to take?
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> http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-razr-m/general/guide-faq-how-to-root-boot-unlock-t2869432

ATTACK said:
> http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-razr-m/general/guide-faq-how-to-root-boot-unlock-t2869432
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what am i doing with all that?

Reactor903 said:
what am i doing with all that?
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You were supposed to read it.
ATTACK said:
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IMPORTANT
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If you don't unlock your bootloader on 182/183.46.10, future system updates will close any loopholes to gaining root and unlocking your bootloader. - You have been warned!
Once your bootloader is unlocked, it can not be re-locked - Say goodbye to any warranties you may have.
Once your bootloader is unlocked, you can accept any and all firmware updates.
In order to receive and install System Updates you will need to be using 100% stock untouched firmware. (Stock system & recovery)
You can not downgrade with a locked bootloader. You can only flash current or updated firmware.
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Bummer. anyway to get stock apps back on phone? or is 4.2.2 not even worth it for the phone.

Reactor903 said:
Bummer. anyway to get stock apps back on phone? or is 4.2.2 not even worth it for the phone.
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Well... you have 3 options.
1. You can flash your current firmware and then OTA to the KitKat firmware.
2. Flash the KitKat firmware with RSD Lite.
3. Stay where you are and skip the update.
Is your bootloader unlocked?
If it's not I suggest that you flash the .10 firmware and unlock your bootloader. (It has to be the .10 firmware only to root and unlock the bootloader)

S5 root with marshmallow

What's going to happen to my SM-G900I thats got root (running stock) when it receives the marshmallow update. Sorry for the simple question. Thanks

marshmallow update
Hey there! your root will probably be lost if you accept the OTA (over the air) marshmallow. My best advice to you is this:
1. DON'T accept the update. (caps lock for emphasis only). You, as the subscriber, can only accept the update. The carrier can't "force update' your phone without your permission.
2. wait until a dev "captures" the update and "injects" the root (if available) in the marshmallow stock rom.
3. as a rooted user myself, exercise your due patience and wait it out. don't *ask* for ETA from a dev -- it's mean. =)
I hope this helps. =)

You won't get OTA updates if you're rooted, you'll have to update manually then root again

sameog said:
Hey there! your root will probably be lost if you accept the OTA (over the air) marshmallow. My best advice to you is this:
1. DON'T accept the update. (caps lock for emphasis only). You, as the subscriber, can only accept the update. The carrier can't "force update' your phone without your permission.
2. wait until a dev "captures" the update and "injects" the root (if available) in the marshmallow stock rom.
3. as a rooted user myself, exercise your due patience and wait it out. don't *ask* for ETA from a dev -- it's mean. =)
I hope this helps. =)
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Okay thanks so pretty much wait until someone figures out how to root mm then update and root?

*Detection* said:
You won't get OTA updates if you're rooted, you'll have to update manually then root again
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So I will have to do a full unroot to get the update normally, and would manually updating just be flashing the stock mm rom?

devondale16 said:
So I will have to do a full unroot to get the update normally, and would manually updating just be flashing the stock mm rom?
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Full unroot doesn't seem to revert the device "Custom" status, which is what stops the OTA, to "Official" which is the status needed for OTA
The only way to return the device to Official is to flash a stock ROM with ODIN, that will unroot you and return the device to Official and OTA will work
And yes, Flashing manually is flashing a stock ROM with ODIN

*Detection* said:
Full unroot doesn't seem to revert the device "Custom" status, which is what stops the OTA, to "Official" which is the status needed for OTA
The only way to return the device to Official is to flash a stock ROM with ODIN, that will unroot you and return the device to Official and OTA will work
And yes, Flashing manually is flashing a stock ROM with ODIN
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Ohhh I understand now, thanks Durham. So I take it when I flash the new one with ODIN I will loose everything on my phone or can I do a dirty install and keep everything.

devondale16 said:
Ohhh I understand now, thanks Durham. So I take it when I flash the new one with ODIN I will loose everything on my phone or can I do a dirty install and keep everything.
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You only lose anything custom, like root or recovery, all your apps and files etc are safe

*Detection* said:
You only lose anything custom, like root or recovery, all your apps and files etc are safe
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Do you have a link for this if it's been made?
Sent from my SM-G900I using XDA-Developers mobile app

devondale16 said:
Do you have a link for this if it's been made?
Sent from my SM-G900I using XDA-Developers mobile app
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For what? Stock MM?
This one is modded for BTU United Kingdom for the G900F, been running it for a while now, great ROM
It will trip KNOX though if you haven't already
Code:
https://mega.nz/#!SMRlERrY!oeOX8W_4tbQbArTN-LzTKWJ1xi_8LLrN_ZoSg-Dzs1Q

OTA updates on rooted device

Hello and Happy new year everybody.
Recently i rooted my device (p9 lite single sim) unlocking the bootloader and installing twrp as Mandrigan's guide suggested.
As i know it is not safe to install OTA updates on a rooted device. Is there any way to do it without unrooting
the phone? Somewhere i read about flashfire but the app itself highlights that huawei devices are easily
bricked. The most common answer i find is to install the stock firmware but i cannot find anywhere
the firmware for my version (VNS-L31C150B121). Any ideas? Would the full unroot of SuperSU assist
me in that way?
Sorry for the many questions in one post.
Thanks in advance.

I'm a bit confused.

At any stock update you will loose root and TWRP and your unlocked bootloader will be locked again.
Be aware to have saved unlock code...

gtdaniel said:
At any stock update you will loose root and TWRP and your unlocked bootloader will be locked again.
Be aware to have saved unlock code...
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Really? I was afraid that if i installed an OTA update i would brick my device.

xleburas said:
Really? I was afraid that if i installed an OTA update i would brick my device.
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Any update/flash can, theoretically, brick your device...