Hello,
I'm sorry if this has been asked before but a search yielded nothing.
Anyways, I was wondering how an OTA update would work if I merely unlocked the bootloader and rooted the stock ROM without installing a recovery. Would I be able to update directly from Google or not?
Thanks for you help
You will still be able to get the OTA, but you will lose root unless you have an OTA root keeper tool installed.
darkstar107 said:
You will still be able to get the OTA, but you will lose root unless you have an OTA root keeper tool installed.
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To clarify further, would my bootloader remain unlocked? And would rooting be easy on a nexus device?
sorry for the questions but this is my first nexus and thanks for your help
baggy111 said:
To clarify further, would my bootloader remain unlocked? And would rooting be easy on a nexus device?
sorry for the questions but this is my first nexus and thanks for your help
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As far as I'm aware your bootloader will remain unlocked and there are various toolkits that will re-root very simply.
Purists will tell you to stay away from the toolkits but I've had no problems so far.
Pharmbob said:
As far as I'm aware your bootloader will remain unlocked and there are various toolkits that will re-root very simply.
Purists will tell you to stay away from the toolkits but I've had no problems so far.
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I'm used to rooting and using custom rom on all my android devices but since this is my first Nexus, I'd like to keep it as clean as possible.
Rooting and Unlocking preserves the OTA updates that's great. Would flashing a custom recovery prevent OTAs ?
astralmind said:
I'm used to rooting and using custom rom on all my android devices but since this is my first Nexus, I'd like to keep it as clean as possible.
Rooting and Unlocking preserves the OTA updates that's great. Would flashing a custom recovery prevent OTAs ?
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Custom recoveries bork OTA updates, it'll download fine, but wont install.
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Hi,
I just baught myself a Google Nexus 7 and coming from Apple's locked iOS from an iPad Mini I want to know a few things..
1. What are the latest Android version for stock Nexus 7? 4.22 or 4.3?
2. I want to root my Nexus 7, are there any beginner guides on how to do it or is there any complete packages available for download?
3. I'm on a Mac can I as easily root my Nexus 7 as if I were on a Windows machine?
4. I want the latest, speediest and most stable ROM where all stuff works. Can you point me in a direction of which to choose from?
Well I guess that's it for now.
Thanks again.
Rasmus, Denmark
The latest version is 4.3
To root check the stickies here, there are some guides. They should work for Mac too, because you just use fastboot to unlock the bootloader, flash the recovery and then you root via flashing a zip in recovery
There's no best rom. Just check some roms in the Dev section and check the bugs. If there are (nearly) no bugs and you like the interface/additional features flash it. Otherwise use the stock rom, it's great too :good:
The obvious question is, why do you want to root? Do you need it? Because if you are just a beginner, you should better read much and then (if you still need root) root it
Sent from my Nexus 4 running Android 4.2.2
mihahn said:
The latest version is 4.3
To root check the stickies here, there are some guides. They should work for Mac too, because you just use fastboot to unlock the bootloader, flash the recovery and then you root via flashing a zip in recovery
There's no best rom. Just check some roms in the Dev section and check the bugs. If there are (nearly) no bugs and you like the interface/additional features flash it. Otherwise use the stock rom, it's great too :good:
The obvious question is, why do you want to root? Do you need it? Because if you are just a beginner, you should better read much and then (if you still need root) root it
Sent from my Nexus 4 running Android 4.2.2
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Thanks for your help and answers. I have owned a couple of android devices in the past, but that was a couple of years ago and then I used fastboot
Thanks again.
Rasmus, Denmark
rasmusj78 said:
Thanks for your help and answers. I have owned a couple of android devices in the past, but that was a couple of years ago and then I used fastboot
Thanks again.
Rasmus, Denmark
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No problem
For any further questions, just ask
Sent from my Nexus 4 running Android 4.2.2
mihahn said:
No problem
For any further questions, just ask
Sent from my Nexus 4 running Android 4.2.2
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Just one question more. If I choose to flash and root a stock image (4.3). Will I be able to receive OTA updates from Google in the future or do I have to root the device again upon an update?
Thanks.
Rasmus, Denmark
rasmusj78 said:
Just one question more. If I choose to flash and root a stock image (4.3). Will I be able to receive OTA updates from Google in the future or do I have to root the device again upon an update?
Thanks.
Rasmus, Denmark
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I guess it's better to be on stock rom without any modifications to prevent issues with the updates
And as far as I know it's impossible to update on an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery, but I'm not sure
Sent from my Nexus 4 running Android 4.2.2
mihahn said:
I guess it's better to be on stock rom without any modifications to prevent issues with the updates
And as far as I know it's impossible to update on an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery, but I'm not sure
Sent from my Nexus 4 running Android 4.2.2
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Ok thanks mihahn.
Rasmus
rasmusj78 said:
Ok thanks mihahn.
Rasmus
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I have been able to take an OTA while rooted and running a custom recovery. It should be no problem.
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Hello!
I recently had Xposed Framework installed. I uninstalled it to get my phone ready for the Android 4.4 OTA.
I have a STOCK ROOTED Nexus 4 with CWM Recovery (Bootloader: Unlocked).
I wanted to download the Android 4.4 OTA once it is released.
Based on what I understand, there are two ways (that I prefer) of receiving this:
1> Unroot the phone and put stock recovery. I had a question with this method:
a: Would I need to lock the bootloader to install the OTA? If yes, on locking would I loose my data?
2> Flashing a binary that would be released on the Google website. I also had a few questions related to this:
a: Would I loose my data if I did so?
b: Do I need to make any changes to my Stock Rooted Nexus 4 with CWM Recovery to follow this method?
Which method would you follow? Or do you have a better method? Please help me out :laugh:
Thank You!
Just go to the ota help desk here on xda and once the ota is being released they will put it in a zip file and you will be able to install it in recovery without losing any data, so just like a normal ota.
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Thibaultvw said:
Just go to the ota help desk here on xda and once the ota is being released they will put it in a zip file and you will be able to install it in recovery without losing any data, so just like a normal ota.
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That's great. But what if I want to install the OTA? Wouldn't installing something from the OTA Helpdesk void the warranty?
ak****soota said:
That's great. But what if I want to install the OTA? Wouldn't installing something from the OTA Helpdesk void the warranty?
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No................................................................. this isn't a Samsung phone.
Can anyone confirm you need to unroot or not to receive OTA? (I have never bothered with it since flashing roms). Just make sure you're running unrooted stock rom that is odexed, stock kernel and stock recovery, as far as I know.
If you flash the factory firmware from Google it will wipe out everything, including your /sdcard/ partition. You could wait for a 'stock rom' that is flashable by custom recovery, these don't delete your /sdcard while flashing, these (unrooted odexed) roms should still be able to receive OTA (correct me if I'm wrong).
Yes u will have to unroot to receive OTA.
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ak****soota said:
Hello!
I recently had Xposed Framework installed. I uninstalled it to get my phone ready for the Android 4.4 OTA.
I have a STOCK ROOTED Nexus 4 with CWM Recovery (Bootloader: Unlocked).
I wanted to download the Android 4.4 OTA once it is released.
Based on what I understand, there are two ways (that I prefer) of receiving this:
1> Unroot the phone and put stock recovery. I had a question with this method:
a: Would I need to lock the bootloader to install the OTA? If yes, on locking would I loose my data?
2> Flashing a binary that would be released on the Google website. I also had a few questions related to this:
a: Would I loose my data if I did so?
b: Do I need to make any changes to my Stock Rooted Nexus 4 with CWM Recovery to follow this method?
Which method would you follow? Or do you have a better method? Please help me out :laugh:
Thank You!
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I see so many of these threads and then I see the I bricked my phone going back to stock threads next. Please if you enjoy root and the features it brings you just relax and wait out the update. Your favorite developer will then create a nice new KitKat version with your updates and customizations. Of course do what you like but to unroot and get rid of your custom rom to have stock and then re root to try and get the same effect again just sounds crazy too me.
Patience is a virtue
Edit: but your question is what route to take just so you know there are back to stock threads which would be your best bet to follow if you honestly feel like doing all that to undo it later....
Brought the Nexus 6p and wanna root it but wanted to ask do I need to unlock the bootloader to root, and what does a unlocked bootloader do compared to rooting.
Also do I lose anything such as finger print when rooting or unlocking bootloader? As this was the case with my old Samsung and I don't wanna ruin this phone.
Sorry if this has been answered but I googled alot and found mixed answers
In order to root you have to unlock your boot loader.. Unlocking your boot loader has no effect on the fingerprint scanner..
Make sure you read the general section of you plan on rooting.. Once you root you can stay with the stock rom or install custom roms.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using XDA Forums Pro.
barnabyoshea said:
Brought the Nexus 6p and wanna root it but wanted to ask do I need to unlock the bootloader to root, and what does a unlocked bootloader do compared to rooting.
Also do I lose anything such as finger print when rooting or unlocking bootloader? As this was the case with my old Samsung and I don't wanna ruin this phone.
Sorry if this has been answered but I googled alot and found mixed answers
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To gain root access you need to install SuperSU, to install SuperSU you need TWRP recovery, to install TWRP recovery you need an unlocked bootloader. An unlocked bootloader just allows you to flash images to the partitions on your device. It's all in my guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
Heisenberg said:
To gain root access you need to install SuperSU, to install SuperSU you need TWRP recovery, to install TWRP recovery you need an unlocked bootloader. An unlocked bootloader just allows you to flash images to the partitions on your device. It's all in my guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
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Thanks for the info, I've rooted and installed custom ROMs on Sony's and Samsung's but never even had a Nexus so thanks for the clarification
grneyez said:
In order to root you have to unlock your boot loader.. Unlocking your boot loader has no effect on the fingerprint scanner..
Make sure you read the general section of you plan on rooting.. Once you root you can stay with the stock rom or install custom roms.
Sent from my Nexus 6P using XDA Forums Pro.
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Thanks for verifying the fingerprint, I wasn't sure if it was like Samsung and Knox , think I'll root soon as
Are there any other features that get removed with root/unlocking bootloader, and I assume warranty gets put back if you put it all back to factory IMG?
barnabyoshea said:
Are there any other features that get removed with root/unlocking bootloader, and I assume warranty gets put back if you put it all back to factory IMG?
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No, everything works. And your warranty isn't affected.
Heisenberg said:
No, everything works. And your warranty isn't affected.
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Thank you so much, nice to know
Heisenberg said:
No, everything works. And your warranty isn't affected.
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I thought you will lose android pay?
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Raydee35 said:
I thought you will lose android pay?
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Yes, Android Pay will not work with root.
Heisenberg said:
Yes, Android Pay will not work with root.
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There are some custom ROMs that support Android Pay.
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Heisenberg said:
To gain root access you need to install SuperSU, to install SuperSU you need TWRP recovery, to install TWRP recovery you need an unlocked bootloader. An unlocked bootloader just allows you to flash images to the partitions on your device. It's all in my guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928
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Perfect guide i ever seen
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
Heisenberg said:
Yes, Android Pay will not work with root.
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ohwell always preferred my card, tried following your guide for rooting and the fastboot devices command does nothing, i was in bootloader, both adb version and adb devices work. ive untinstalled sdk and reinstalled ive tried in ptp mode ive changed usb and uninstaled and reinstalled phone divers. im on windows 10, any help would be greatly appreciated
Hello and Happy new year everybody.
Recently i rooted my device (p9 lite single sim) unlocking the bootloader and installing twrp as Mandrigan's guide suggested.
As i know it is not safe to install OTA updates on a rooted device. Is there any way to do it without unrooting
the phone? Somewhere i read about flashfire but the app itself highlights that huawei devices are easily
bricked. The most common answer i find is to install the stock firmware but i cannot find anywhere
the firmware for my version (VNS-L31C150B121). Any ideas? Would the full unroot of SuperSU assist
me in that way?
Sorry for the many questions in one post.
Thanks in advance.
I'm a bit confused.
At any stock update you will loose root and TWRP and your unlocked bootloader will be locked again.
Be aware to have saved unlock code...
gtdaniel said:
At any stock update you will loose root and TWRP and your unlocked bootloader will be locked again.
Be aware to have saved unlock code...
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Really? I was afraid that if i installed an OTA update i would brick my device.
xleburas said:
Really? I was afraid that if i installed an OTA update i would brick my device.
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Any update/flash can, theoretically, brick your device...
Hello. I'm new to Android and all of this rooting and stuff but I want to try out flashing a custom ROM but I don't know how. Do you need to be rooted? I know about custom recoveries and stuff but I need to know exactly how.
EDIT: My model number is WAS-LO3T
My build number is WAS-LO3TC654B198
EDIT 2: I watched the One Click Root video. Is it safe? Is kingroot safe?
ANYONE? pls
ianorna said:
ANYONE? pls
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For rooting phone need unlock bootloader and flash TWRP. Then yet flash root.
And forgot about king root. Only SU.
rambik33 said:
For rooting phone need unlock bootloader and flash TWRP. Then yet flash root.
And forgot about king root. Only SU.
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How do I unlocked my bootloadrr
ianorna said:
How do I unlocked my bootloadrr
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How to root link below (includes unlocking the bootloader). Follow the steps very carefully as this is your first time rooting. I am not to blame nor anyone here on xda if you end up with a bricked phone. If you use android pay this will no longer work, some bank apps will not work either FYI due to root.
At present there is only one custom rom available however this is not specifically made for our device but for the p8 lite. When I flashed it about a month ago there are some bugs still like camera not working. Hopefully some talented people will buy our device and develope a custom rom for us.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/foru...ow-to/twrp-how-to-root-p10-lite-t3617418/amp/