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Hello friends! I created this thread to make a proposal to the dev's and cookers ...
Well, what I mean is that we have bright developers of ROMs for our XPERIA X8
I think most of them work on your own ROMs, without the assistance of anyone (I'm NOT saying they are not able to cook a ROM)
What I mean is that I think that all the dev's of X8 ROM's (as racht, doixanh or AnDyX), cookers (like ME!) and designers (like AChep) come together and form a team, so to create an all-new custom ROM with the help and idea of all users of the Xperia X8!
The forum is for everyone to share their ideas and how they can help in the development of custom ROMs for our devices, and I believe that together we can create a perfect ROM!
That's the idea and proposed to you all, developers of ROMs of our Xperia X8 ...
I think it's a good idea!
Who agrees with me?
Remember: In unity is strength!
It sounds good in theory but I doubt they will work on a single rom. As far as I see it, racht likes gingerbread and has abandoned his floyo rom, but dx likes froyo so he started adding things from gingerbread for users to have a better experience while using it. One thing that I know for certain, if someone manages to find a fix for a problem in any rom I am sure they will share their work with others, because that's why they use these forums.
As for jerpelea he seems to focus more on the X10, which will get official gingerbread update, instead on X8 and that saddens me abit, but is his time to spend and he can do whatever he wants with it... AnDyX has done 2 modules but no rom so maybe ask him to make a rom from scratch by using knowledge gained from other devs.
I do not mean to them that I quoted ...
I refer to ALL's dev ...
I think if all agree to try to do this, we must settle on which Android will be based (Whether it will be 2.3 or 2.2, whatever), but I think that discussion is for later ...
My proposal is that all ideas come together and share their knowledge so that all interested members to create a fully-working near perfect ROM
This is my proposal and idea ...If anyone can understand me...
Salo-S said:
I do not mean to them that I quoted ...
I refer to ALL's dev ...
I think if all agree to try to do this, we must settle on which Android will be based (Whether it will be 2.3 or 2.2, whatever), but I think that discussion is for later ...
My proposal is that all ideas come together and share their knowledge so that all interested members to create a fully-working near perfect ROM
This is my proposal and idea ...If anyone can understand me...
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Hehe this is best idea i ever see on this forum ! Come one devs! Xda rocks! !! Sent from xgin 5.4
Sent from my X8 using Tapatalk
I do not say that this not a good idea... but it's very-very difficult to work with someone else over the same project. I have never work over roms for phone but from my knowledge as a programmer i can say that it may be better working like now...
I was working with a programmer over a firefox addon (like the way you say) but it was very difficult. I was forced to inform him about everything i did, so to let him know what he should do. I started keeping notes and made a program lol...
You must be very consistent too do this...
I wish our devs have the time to set up such a project...
great idea, but... We only need to know if our devs agree with that..
GreatApo said:
I do not say that this not a good idea... but it's very-very difficult to work with someone else over the same project. I have never work over roms for phone but from my knowledge as a programmer i can say that it may be better working like now...
I was working with a programmer over a firefox addon (like the way you say) but it was very difficult. I was forced to inform him about everything i did, so to let him know what he should do. I started keeping notes and made a program lol...
You must be very consistent too do this...
I wish our devs have the time to set up such a project...
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I feel the same way. It is very difficult to work with multiple people at the same project, each in a different place. Everyone should have from time to time the exact same code and this would necessarily mean working in shifts and not in a team.
What I see much more easy to do is try to understand what features should have the "perfect rom", such as it is doing doixanh for froyobread, posting polls and seeing what the majority prefers.
We could start with topics such as: 1) froyo base vs. gingerbread base, 2) favorite launcher, 3) basic applications preinstalled .. etc etc. ..
Then we might ask a developer to take charge of the project and prepare the ROM. As an incentive we can provide some donation, if at the end of the project will be many users of the forum to participate, there won't be too hard to put together a little cash I think.
What do you think? Could it be possible?
While I won't downplay this idea, because it does have its merit, this would be VERY hard to achieve. Devs would need to communicate everything they did to eachother, which could prove difficult. However what we COULD do is designate assignments for a specific dev. For example:
Doixanh - Porting Gingerbread features to Froyo and performance
Jerpelea & Blagus - Cracking the bootloader
And so on, so forth. Publish all the work in Google Code or Github to make easily accessible for the whole community.
This to me seems the only really viable way to go...
well I hope so !! really they are the betters and could pass something nice
So typical.
All i see are random members saying that it can't be done or that it is so hard to achieve.
Why can't you wait for devs to answer for themselves?
...I agree with all that this is difficult but... I think that the are already work in a team... xda devs' team... they already help each other enought.
First of all, this thread belongs to Genreal section.
Now on-topic:
I don't see any usefullness from this idea.
1st Devs are helping each other anyway for sure
2nd.. 2nddd?!?!?! :O
Oh, yeah... there's no second.
Point is:
Example: doixanh is stuck at something when making froyobread.. he will ask someone for tip...
racht hackdroid has camera disabled... kuya will fix it (altough he's a cooker, not dev I suppose)
You got it??
Apps preistalled, default launcher... install your favorites by yourself you lazyasses
if OP want it like cyanogenmod,
than it is freexperia project.
I don't see it working.
btw, yes, I'm not a "dev", I like and always be a newbie
Theres already a project like that, it is FreeXperia project, i suppose everyone already know that.
The point is, we should just continue that project, if someone already have a well programming knowledge, then they should just help that project, creating the libs for X8 to be used for 2.3+ Android version later.
that's good idea,newbie like me very happy to hear it
That's a good idea, but i think that we'll have more progress about a Cyanogen 7 rom soon enough.
I would like to start a petition for Sony to release the latest sources for Xperia PLAY to the community. I am disappointed by the news but I completely understand and agree. The gamepad is the major reason for this phone and by developers not updating their games to ICS caused all sorts of stability issues.
So I figure for now lets see if we can get the sources and let the XDA devs have a grand old time picking it apart and seeing what awesome goodness they can do with it!
ICS is nice eye candy and I for one found better results on GB then ICS, probably becuase I am on CDMA. But still I would love for everyone to have the option of using some custom ROMs sourced from the latest sources. Everyone who is game (pun) please sign below if you agree. And PLEASE DO NOT COMPLAIN ON THIS THREAD. This thread is about looking positive, moving on and hoping for the best. This phone is still awesome an I still absolutely love my device.
Also there is a poll, choose whether or not you want the sources.
So again.................
*****PLEASE DO NOT COMPLAIN ON THIS THREAD*****
***Just noticed right before i finished this post there was another post for a petition, did not mean to make a double post, but this post also has a POLL. Everyone please use the POLL in addition to signing below. Thank you****
As SuperNoodles2011 has made a poll on the Official Sony Forum. (Thank you SuperNoodles2011)
talk.sonymobile.com/thread/38157?tstart=0
ANY POST THAT IS NEGATIVE TOWARDS SONY WILL BE DELETED AND YOU WILL BE NOTIFIED BY A MOD, THIS THREAD IS FOR ASKING SONY TO RELEASE THE SOURCES IN A POSITIVE WAY, NEGATIVE COMMENTS WILL NOT MOTIVATE SONY TO WANT TO HELP
Sony, thank you for your efforts with ICS for our phone. I would like to respectfully request though that the latest ICS sources be released to the Android community to let those who choose to conitnue with, that they may do so.
And if possible, allow us to help you find a solution to improve overall user experience, and push for a later ICS release.
i made a thread about this already but its np but inside my post is a link to a request on the official sony forums so feel free to take the link from that and post it in this thread and also write on that post saying you want it
supernoodles2011 said:
i made a thread about this already but its np but inside my post is a link to a request on the official sony forums so feel free to take the link from that and post it in this thread and also write on that post saying you want it
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Thank you....
sony please release the sources for the community here
if sources would be released i am sure that developers could release a better Rom then sony themself since sony puts so much BS on their Stock rom that not nessacry
IMO If we won't get the official update, I think Sony must give us a chance between stay in the latest official Gingerbread rom or install an official custom ICS rom under our own risk.
I want them to release the sources too! I understand their decision but at least they should give us their latest sources
I understand Sony's decision and thank them for giving us a Beta to test ICS on our devices. But I would love to see what xda-developers could do with our phone having the latest source code.
SONY: If you want to give up then it's fine, Just give us the latest sources as I hope there was some progress made after the beta was released. We have some great Devs that can do a lot with whatever has been done so far. As you may know this is a major disappointment to the Xperia play owners so at least give us a shot. It's really not too much to ask.
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SONY: If you want to give up then be my guest Just give us the latest sources unless you stopped development sometime back around your early release of the beta in which point keep them to yourselve as Ive already lost enough respect for your treatment of the paying customer. Hey, I didnt complain.lmao.
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in theory they MUST have some newer ROM for possible bug fixes they have tryed so lets hope we get it
the only reason sony gave us the beta was to confirm what they already thought: ICS on the PLAY is too much effort.
Give us the source code (especially for the touchpads). Open source means open source
i found this rather interesting this post
http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/197288#197288
States that not only will ALL 2011 xperia phones get ICS but they "PROMISE" we will get it
so as they cant promise us a working ICS lets hope we get the latest Rom source
supernoodles2011 said:
i found this rather interesting this post
http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/197288#197288
States that not only will ALL 2011 xperia phones get ICS but they "PROMISE" we will get it...
Wow them broken promises guess i wont be believe that crap again
And nobody can come to me saying Oh sony made you a promise they couldnt keep it its not there fault the phones hardware isnt good enough etc... Why make that post literaly 3-4 days ago if they clearly knew it wasnt gonna happen... they all need to learn to talk to eachother more
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the Xperia Play is as powerful as the Xperia arc.
TheCraig said:
the Xperia Play is as powerful as the Xperia arc.
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my point exactly ... i dont care about the gaming aspect of my phone anymore i hardly use it for that.. and i cant afford a new phone with the same kind or performance or even better :/ i hope they honor there customers i really do
Meanwhile if everyone could use the link in the first post to make your views on it and help show sony we need the ROMS brought here id appreciate it ALOT
I also would like Sony to release the sources for their ICS implementation, assuming they'll refuse to release an official ROM. But I'm not holding my breath. Sony isn't exactly the most open company out there (when Ericsson's share was bought out, I immediately knew I made a mistake having bought this phone).
Well, live and learn [and don't buy Sony].
supernoodles2011 said:
in theory they MUST have some newer ROM somewhere otherwise that just proves that they didnt even TRY to update the phone or fix any of the bugs... so they cant say no we dont have it otherwise they prove they are liars so we better see something soon...
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As I have stated in my first post, PLEASE NO NEGATIVE COMMENTS, this is NOT for complaining. This thread is for being positive and respectfully asking Sony for the sources of our phone. Please either re-word your post or I will have a mod remove it.
supernoodles2011 said:
i found this rather interesting this post
http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/197288#197288
States that not only will ALL 2011 xperia phones get ICS but they "PROMISE" we will get it...
Wow them broken promises guess i wont be believe that crap again
And nobody can come to me saying Oh sony made you a promise they couldnt keep it its not there fault the phones hardware isnt good enough etc... Why make that post literaly 3-4 days ago if they clearly knew it wasnt gonna happen... they all need to learn to talk to eachother more
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As I have stated in my first post, PLEASE NO NEGATIVE COMMENTS, this is NOT for complaining. This thread is for being positive and respectfully asking Sony for the sources of our phone. Please either re-word your post or I will have a mod remove it.
devguy22 said:
I also would like Sony to release the sources for their ICS implementation, assuming they'll refuse to release an official ROM. But I'm not holding my breath. Sony isn't exactly the most open company out there (when Ericsson's share was bought out, I immediately knew I made a mistake having bought this phone).
Well, live and learn [and don't buy Sony].
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As I have stated in my first post, PLEASE NO NEGATIVE COMMENTS, this is NOT for complaining. This thread is for being positive and respectfully asking Sony for the sources of our phone. Please either re-word your post or I will have a mod remove it.
Hello everyone!
My name is Bart, and I would like to share my opinion about the development of ICS/JB and GB for our lovely but aging X8
As you know, ICS and JB need a lot of juice to run smooth and good, and our X8 is not designed to do such things , so I would like to share my opinion not to concentrate on making ICS/JB for our X8, but make better Froyo and GingerBread as those are good for it, yet GB needs a bit too .
I would like to ask you developers to concentrate more on Froyo and GingerBread as those ROM's are what our X8 is waiting for, get the best for it.
This is just my opinion, don't know what other think about it.
Have fun!
Bart.
I think GB is very good for daily use. Its just perfect. Devs should concentrate on JB/ICS...:angel:
developers did everithing they can on gb it up to cyanogen mod to improve performnce on gb in cm7.3 if it will be for x8 :good:
The point of it is that its not worth developing ICS/JB for out X8, our phone is just too weak and too old for this
I think it's very disrespectful to hold a poll on such issues.
Without devs doing what they want to do (they have to be inspired or enjoy their work) you wouldn't even have Froyo or GB..
Polls like this can make devs disappear from XDA because it makes them feel undervalued.
Remember this:
1: XDA is a developers site.
2: You are lucky to be here.
3: XDA can decide at any time to make this a dev site only.
4: You are lucky to be here.
5: Devs work for free - Who are we to tell them what to do with their time and efforts.
6: You are lucky to be here.
I think I've made my point clear!
Reported as this kind of poll disgusts devs and most of us happy users!
You can't order them what to do... And yes you can't even suggest them...
I guess you aren't a developer so you don't have curiosity to develop something NEW... you just download their work... And then post such disgusting thread... :thumbdown::banghead:
I too own X8... But I would love if the developers continue experimenting with X8... in hope something out if the box
Sent bursting with anger...
Thread closed as your opinion sounds more like a demanding troll attempt than an actual opinion....unless you are not trolling, in which cased....thread closed anyway.
Do not reopen this thread or a "Y U CLOSE MAI THREAD?", thread.
Cheers,
M_T_M
guys we all know sony wont be releasing jellybean and ics is supercrap leaving aside(some hard work of devs trying to make it work).
a same dev Zackconsole is trying to do something good for our phones.
he has booted sense 4.0 and he can make it successfull for us.
Guys he need donation. His phone is in sony service centre.
Please guys support him and let him bring some life to our xperia's,
link of his post : - http://twitter.com/IdeosDevZack
link to donate :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/donatetome.php?u=4228875
guys this is a humble request to everyone here to help him
why port sense 4.0 ? It's such a memory hogger rom. ARC S will definitely cannot handle it. The RAM is not enough for the stock ICS. With SENSE 4.0 there will be less RAM and lags. Rather contribute to CM development. My view only!
good point!
the dev have tested it.
it works much better than xperia ui
and i also have htc one s
sense 4.0 is light and proper for arc
but still if you think its your wish
is there really a need to post a 3rd post promoting this person's work?
I would hate to say, that i will be less involving myself in X10i Development from now, got A New-Born Xperia Z with me But, my X10i not much loss to her. I would like to share my X10i info before i leave sadly
My X10i Final SMOOTH Flash:
1. ~SlimBean JB KickAss Edition 4.0~ ROM by x10forevers (Thanks senior for sharing knowledge with me, when i need it)
2. Xperia Z Lockscreen for Slimbean by benclark101
3. SONY UXP Theme (U may get via PlayStore, or somehow)
4. CMX10 Kernel v19.ftf by scritch007 (Thanks for helping us getting Camera Fix and glitches since CM9, and i'm looking for ur great solution for Camcorder, and i'm impressed of your archievements and contributions in X10 Community)
5.Oh right, Nova Launcher ^^
And that's what my old babe X10i about
And now, I will try to explore More about Xperia Z, and if possible, i might write more about Rooting, Flashing and bootloader as well in Xperia Z if free. Life is full of interesting things, having girlfriend, having nice laptop, and have parents who always care about us. So, i will try spend more time with dearest ones as long as God lets us be. I wish the same to you all
And Lastly, I would like to say Great Thanks to great friends i known here (below listed name not ranked, you're all total equal respect to me )
Code:
FeraVolt
alzbac
Achotjan
Dikej
scritch007
x10forevers
DooMLord
bin4ry
Androxyde
Vasitha Reddy
azuzu
Zdzihu
Championswimmer
and All Forum Moderators
And most lastly, i would to say thanks to those followers/fans/friends here who supported me until this far!! TQ
Farewell, and Sincerely by:
Whitefang
Have fun with the Z buddy!!!
sent by NOTE 2 using LIQUIDSMOOTH rom.
Maybe someday we will meet in Z section . Take care pal!
OP enjoy your new device, Thank You.