I would like to start a petition for Sony to release the latest sources for Xperia PLAY to the community. I am disappointed by the news but I completely understand and agree. The gamepad is the major reason for this phone and by developers not updating their games to ICS caused all sorts of stability issues.
So I figure for now lets see if we can get the sources and let the XDA devs have a grand old time picking it apart and seeing what awesome goodness they can do with it!
ICS is nice eye candy and I for one found better results on GB then ICS, probably becuase I am on CDMA. But still I would love for everyone to have the option of using some custom ROMs sourced from the latest sources. Everyone who is game (pun) please sign below if you agree. And PLEASE DO NOT COMPLAIN ON THIS THREAD. This thread is about looking positive, moving on and hoping for the best. This phone is still awesome an I still absolutely love my device.
Also there is a poll, choose whether or not you want the sources.
So again.................
*****PLEASE DO NOT COMPLAIN ON THIS THREAD*****
***Just noticed right before i finished this post there was another post for a petition, did not mean to make a double post, but this post also has a POLL. Everyone please use the POLL in addition to signing below. Thank you****
As SuperNoodles2011 has made a poll on the Official Sony Forum. (Thank you SuperNoodles2011)
talk.sonymobile.com/thread/38157?tstart=0
ANY POST THAT IS NEGATIVE TOWARDS SONY WILL BE DELETED AND YOU WILL BE NOTIFIED BY A MOD, THIS THREAD IS FOR ASKING SONY TO RELEASE THE SOURCES IN A POSITIVE WAY, NEGATIVE COMMENTS WILL NOT MOTIVATE SONY TO WANT TO HELP
Sony, thank you for your efforts with ICS for our phone. I would like to respectfully request though that the latest ICS sources be released to the Android community to let those who choose to conitnue with, that they may do so.
And if possible, allow us to help you find a solution to improve overall user experience, and push for a later ICS release.
i made a thread about this already but its np but inside my post is a link to a request on the official sony forums so feel free to take the link from that and post it in this thread and also write on that post saying you want it
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i made a thread about this already but its np but inside my post is a link to a request on the official sony forums so feel free to take the link from that and post it in this thread and also write on that post saying you want it
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Thank you....
sony please release the sources for the community here
if sources would be released i am sure that developers could release a better Rom then sony themself since sony puts so much BS on their Stock rom that not nessacry
IMO If we won't get the official update, I think Sony must give us a chance between stay in the latest official Gingerbread rom or install an official custom ICS rom under our own risk.
I want them to release the sources too! I understand their decision but at least they should give us their latest sources
I understand Sony's decision and thank them for giving us a Beta to test ICS on our devices. But I would love to see what xda-developers could do with our phone having the latest source code.
SONY: If you want to give up then it's fine, Just give us the latest sources as I hope there was some progress made after the beta was released. We have some great Devs that can do a lot with whatever has been done so far. As you may know this is a major disappointment to the Xperia play owners so at least give us a shot. It's really not too much to ask.
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SONY: If you want to give up then be my guest Just give us the latest sources unless you stopped development sometime back around your early release of the beta in which point keep them to yourselve as Ive already lost enough respect for your treatment of the paying customer. Hey, I didnt complain.lmao.
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in theory they MUST have some newer ROM for possible bug fixes they have tryed so lets hope we get it
the only reason sony gave us the beta was to confirm what they already thought: ICS on the PLAY is too much effort.
Give us the source code (especially for the touchpads). Open source means open source
i found this rather interesting this post
http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/197288#197288
States that not only will ALL 2011 xperia phones get ICS but they "PROMISE" we will get it
so as they cant promise us a working ICS lets hope we get the latest Rom source
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i found this rather interesting this post
http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/197288#197288
States that not only will ALL 2011 xperia phones get ICS but they "PROMISE" we will get it...
Wow them broken promises guess i wont be believe that crap again
And nobody can come to me saying Oh sony made you a promise they couldnt keep it its not there fault the phones hardware isnt good enough etc... Why make that post literaly 3-4 days ago if they clearly knew it wasnt gonna happen... they all need to learn to talk to eachother more
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the Xperia Play is as powerful as the Xperia arc.
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the Xperia Play is as powerful as the Xperia arc.
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my point exactly ... i dont care about the gaming aspect of my phone anymore i hardly use it for that.. and i cant afford a new phone with the same kind or performance or even better :/ i hope they honor there customers i really do
Meanwhile if everyone could use the link in the first post to make your views on it and help show sony we need the ROMS brought here id appreciate it ALOT
I also would like Sony to release the sources for their ICS implementation, assuming they'll refuse to release an official ROM. But I'm not holding my breath. Sony isn't exactly the most open company out there (when Ericsson's share was bought out, I immediately knew I made a mistake having bought this phone).
Well, live and learn [and don't buy Sony].
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in theory they MUST have some newer ROM somewhere otherwise that just proves that they didnt even TRY to update the phone or fix any of the bugs... so they cant say no we dont have it otherwise they prove they are liars so we better see something soon...
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As I have stated in my first post, PLEASE NO NEGATIVE COMMENTS, this is NOT for complaining. This thread is for being positive and respectfully asking Sony for the sources of our phone. Please either re-word your post or I will have a mod remove it.
supernoodles2011 said:
i found this rather interesting this post
http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/197288#197288
States that not only will ALL 2011 xperia phones get ICS but they "PROMISE" we will get it...
Wow them broken promises guess i wont be believe that crap again
And nobody can come to me saying Oh sony made you a promise they couldnt keep it its not there fault the phones hardware isnt good enough etc... Why make that post literaly 3-4 days ago if they clearly knew it wasnt gonna happen... they all need to learn to talk to eachother more
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devguy22 said:
I also would like Sony to release the sources for their ICS implementation, assuming they'll refuse to release an official ROM. But I'm not holding my breath. Sony isn't exactly the most open company out there (when Ericsson's share was bought out, I immediately knew I made a mistake having bought this phone).
Well, live and learn [and don't buy Sony].
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Rikard Skogberg says:
September 24, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Branimir,
1.will 2.2 ever come to x10?
- like I’ve said earlier: not ruled in nor out at this point, i.e. it might but I can’t promise, sorry.
2.multitouch?
- no such plans commited.
3.flash?
- no such plans commited.
4.16 m colors?
- no such plans commited.
5.camera flash?
- doesn’t seem included in this coming update as far as I can see but I have forwarded feedback on that earlier – will look into it!
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2010/09/23/update-on-updates/comment-page-19/#comment-64035
Regarding 16 mil. colours:
Why doesn’t X10 have 16 mil. colours with 2.1? Performance problems? Hardware again?
RS says: Sorry but I don’t know the reason at this time. I guess it could be hardware dependant or due to priorities in resources for development. I’ll see if I can find out.
Thanks for the post. It's a bunch of non-answers really but atleast I don't have to browse through the Sony Ericsson blogs to find them.
When they do have a plan - we see delays ... When they do not have plans I suppose it is a clear "no".
So for sure no 16 mil colours and no flash. For multitouch it was clear earlier.
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Thanks for the post. It's a bunch of non-answers really but atleast I don't have to browse through the Sony Ericsson blogs to find them.
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Just go through the comments in the blog...............Rikard was patient enough to answer many questions.....
Thanks for the post OP
would be great if you would update the first post to include what ever he says
Much appreciated
In all honesty, all those answers are like the answers we get from politicians. In other words, they are not answers at all, they are simply evasions.
Update on arabic support from Rikard
I asked him about Arabic support in the coming update, His answer was, i quote,
"I don’t know. I’ve checked my sample here and it doesn’t seem to include Arabic letters at least. But perhaps there could be language additions in the second update, I will try to look into it!"
I have also contacted SE Middle East on their facebook page, they answered that the support for Arabic will be added in November(on old update schedule, i guess). So that may not happens(if it ever happens) until early 2011.
Perhaps we could revive this thread? It would really help a lot of people if you post what Rikard says over here - note, no discussion, just what he posted. Then we don't need to wade through all the 500 comments cursing SE and the spam comments etc
I don't see any helpful answer.
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Perhaps we could revive this thread? It would really help a lot of people if you post what Rikard says over here - note, no discussion, just what he posted. Then we don't need to wade through all the 500 comments cursing SE and the spam comments etc
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+1. Keep posting and keep this thread towards the front.
ATM, I feel I'm missing two things only... (anything over these would be a bonus)
1. Camera Flash.
2. In-call-volume.
If SE can do something about this, would be really great.
pretty much sounds like they have 3 devs to make all the new roms lol
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pretty much sounds like they have 3 devs to make all the new roms lol
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LOL, we never know, that might actually be true
And The SE keeps ignoring its customers .......... How will they remain in the market like this if they keep doing **** like they r doing with x10 owners
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And The SE keeps ignoring its customers .......... How will they remain in the market like this if they keep doing **** like they r doing with x10 owners
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Let's not turn this into another bashing and whining thread about SE. If people understood the facts versus jumping on the misinformation bandwagon they might actually enjoy the X10 experience.
Guys.. only what Rikard says in this thread... please no discussion
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Guys.. only what Rikard says in this thread... please no discussion
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Lol. Yes, since that is working out so well. So far there isn't one post about what Rikard says since September.
That's coz Rikard isn't saying anything. I guess he won't say much about the x10 now that the new phones will be announced next week
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That's coz Rikard isn't saying anything. I guess he won't say much about the x10 now that the new phones will be announced next week
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He has since September. He's not going to post it here for us too.
Here's an interesting one... what do we think about this logic?
Q: Why do you lock the boot loader of your devices? Isn’t Android supposed to be open source?
A: Yes, Android is an open source platform. Anyone can download it, modify it to their liking and install it on hardware they have designed. A mobile device is much more than the operating system. In our phones there are functionality that have to be secure such as SIM-lock and DRM. We currently don’t have a solution in place to secure that while opening the bootloader and therefore it would break legal agreements with many of our partners if we do.”
Hey guys any questions and discussions you want to have keep them here.
Any questions you need to ask or any conversations that you want to have between each other leave it here and let Airbus360 do his work on his thread.
If mods feel this is a pointless thread by all means then go ahead and close it but rather than having hundred of posts and loads of pages of the same thing being asked over and over again in the Development section might as well keep it here where it is a General discussion thread and forum.
If anyone feels that there should be more info on this post feel free to let me know.
Thanks
The number of "I'll clean the forums by creating a grouping-thread and be a hero" is pretty high nowadays. I wonder what kind of threads should I start grouping .
"If you have problems with your telephone, post here!"
Don't mind me, just carry on!
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The number of "I'll clean the forums by creating a grouping-thread and be a hero" is pretty high nowadays. I wonder what kind of threads should I start grouping .
"If you have problems with your telephone, post here!"
Don't mind me, just carry on!
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sorry my bad only trying to help might as well let someone close this thread
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sorry my bad only trying to help might as well let someone close this thread
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Don't be silly, it's a nice thread, really! I'm just lost a bit with all these discussions threads about ICS releases and updates and leaks and development threads, don't know which one is which.
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Don't be silly, it's a nice thread, really! I'm just lost a bit with all these discussions threads about ICS releases and updates and leaks and development threads, don't know which one is which.
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Well all honesty i am kinda lost as well. Hence why i thought i make this one and try and keep up to date with everything that is going on..
What really surprises me is that people forget that all builds that are out are alpha builds and not stable...i am still on my Gingerbread rom and still loving it as it is solid and stable....Why people get so excited about an alpha is beyond me...
The real buzz will be when devs will have actual sources to be able to upgrade their roms to ICS level..That is when all the fun really should be starting not now
Hate
I wouldn't release anything if I was Airbus. After all the mud thrown on the other thread, sadly by other more "experienced" devs I wouldn't be surprised if he just cancelled the thread n disappeared.
I would.
To me it screams of jealousy on what Airbus has achieved the fact that people like Codeworkx and Paradoxxx are slamming him and all of a sudden made a complete u-turn on their earlier statement that they would release nothing until they had a stable build of CM9.
Airbus is trying to make a rom from scratch with inadequate tools, and he's not experienced. I think he's doing the best he can with the tools at his disposal.
I don't understand why so many people have their "panties in a wad" over Ice Cream Sandwich... I have been patiently trolling these forums and anxiously awaiting the day that a stable release is made. ANYthing made by a developer (that isn't garbage) I am thankful for, after all developers could say **** it and not give us anything. This rom was only released to help subdue those who are flaming over the release of CM9 anyhow...
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I don't understand why so many people have their "panties in a wad" over Ice Cream Sandwich... I have been patiently trolling these forums and anxiously awaiting the day that a stable release is made. ANYthing made by a developer (that isn't garbage) I am thankful for, after all developers could say **** it and not give us anything. This rom was only released to help subdue those who are flaming over the release of CM9 anyhow...
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good valid point...i am waiting for a stable version as well..and all honesty i might just wait for the stable official release itself from Samsung..As long as my phone works great as it is at the moment i am happy with that. If a stable leak comes first though and developers like Pulser, Checkrom team and Hyperdroid can get their hands on it then certainly that would be worth the jump. But at this moment of time when people are having a moan on someone who is trying to tweak a build that is already out and modify it to the way he wants that is disrespectful to him as he is not holding a gun to anyones head really and asking neither for help or money...
and last point people really need to chill out...more important stuff in life than a rom
I don't think that's a nice idea to put another thread on ICS.
Dev become more and more arrogant, people more and more stupid.
So why do you open this one? We already now the situation.
Forget about ICS, wait for a new firmware annoucement and then see if the new one is stable enought. If not, then forget again and repeat.
That thread is full of lulz, the dev should stop baiting users the way he's doing now.
I have made a petition to sony for them to release the latest rom/sources for ICS (be it beta or whatever) for the Xperia Play So that the dev's here can try to work on a stable release for the members here who aren't that worried about bad gaming performance
Sorry if this is the wrong area to post in the more replys we get at the thread below the more chance we probly have of getting what we need (i hope)
talk(dot)sonymobile(dot)com/thread/38157?tstart=0
And if possible could someone with a higher post count than me repost this in the other sections so this spreads around a bit more
Thank you in advance
First, one of the reason they killed it was because the dev community said it wasn't good.
Second online petitions are worth the weight of the paper they're written on.
I made a like and a reply =)
Yes, I feel a lot could be done by releasing newer sources for the ICS. Please everyone- Stand up and voice your opinion here or on Sony's website so we continue development.
Thread has been closed due to all discussion moving to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26575291#post26575291
Pax
FSM Sony Ericsson Experia Play
Hello everyone. I know this is not Xperia PLAY related and I am posting this here. But in the spirit of the XDA to see improvement from not only within but also the OEMs. I would like to extend a request that in this spirit that although many, if not all may or may not have a a Galaxy Tab 10.1 (which I do) if anyone would be kind enough to sign he petition to get Samsung to release Jelly Bean for the awesome tablet?
Here is the link. The goal is to get at least 1000 sigatures. I do not know if this petition will make a difference with Sammy but it doesnt hurt to try and it only takes a minute. Be advised after signing it does ask if you would like to donate to the website, you dont have to.
I am sure there will be users who will write a post that this is NOT Xperia PLAY related and you would be correct. But I do feel that the spirit of this community is to assist and to be a source of accomplishingments. So with that I would like to say thank you in advance. I am not demanding anyone signs this petition. Merely sincerely asking and hoping. Thank you.
Petition Link:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/update-to-jb-for-the-galaxy-tab/
i accedently pressed thanks, because this really needs to be in the forum for this device, or in general (not play general, but android general)
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Dem caps totally makes it look
INTIMIDATING
Nexus 7 - Tapatalk 2
I posted this in the XP forum as I know a few people there who have this tablet. I do not know if they follow the Galaxy Tab forum. My hope was to make this petition known in the XP forum in hopes it would be noticed and get the signatures to needs to hopefully get Samsung to hear its customers.
Hi guys...
We all saw what Sony policy to release new flagship device every six months did for development - basically - it screwed us.
Our main developers spread on XDA and future development for many devices could be very slow...
Also, we saw what happened with Xperia Z3 development, Z3 is great device but without best developers, themers or supporters there won't be custom ROMs, themes or MODs designed for it.
I talked to @niaboc79 and @serajr and offered some help.
My plan is to open on bounty thread, not for root, not for ROMs, themes or anything specifically...but to keep those two wizards in our team.
That way we'll get all the things I mentioned above.
The idea is to raise money or to be precise, donate money to Niaboc paypal account and support them.
That money will be for next Xperia devices, most likely called Xperia Z4. (two devices, one for Niaboc and one for Serajr).
This way we could be 100% sure we'll have best Xperia developers for the future.
If someone thinks we are doing a favor to them - think again.
ROM developing and MODs developing (Xposed modules) developing aren't easy and takes a lot of free time and we should be thankful and happy to have opportunity to keep those guys near.
XDA has changed, we aren't team anymore and that's not good...
But I believe we still have great guys here who knows what we are getting with this.
It's absolutely not important would you donate 1$ or 100$, what's important is your support.
We have hundreds, maybe even thousands of Xperia users who are planning to upgrade their device to Z4 and if we all support this idea and donate few bucks - we'll achieve our goal.
As I said, donation account will be Niaboc paypal account.
And I'm asking him to keep tracks about donations and post them here.
Thank you all for support!
I'm 100% sure we can do this and I'm 100% sure we are doing great thing.
If you are using Xperia Xposed by Serajr or eXistenZ or Xperia (no matter which one) you'll know I'm right
We all know who is Niaboc and who is Serajr, if you have any questions or what to ask them something (thread related) - I'm sure they'll response quickly.
@niaboc79 and @serajr
Could you please tell few words and confirm you are accepting this.
Thank you all.... And long live Xperia
We'll need all the resources in the future, among everything else - rooting method/exploit holes will be extremely hard to find and we need every help we can find.
I'll donate 40$ tomorrow, I hope there'll be many of us who'll join me...
Please, send your donations to Paypay account:
[email protected]
We'll keep tracks here, not to show who donate more but to say thank you to all who helped...
DONATIONS
@funky0308 - 30$
@lagania - 1$
TOTAL:
= 31$
You don't know who those two guys are?
Well, you are probably new Xperia users - so welcome to Xperia family.
Click on this @niaboc79 or watch this video (it's not latest but you'll get the picture who is this magician)
Sony Xperia Z3 ROM On Sony Xperia Z2 - eXistenz R…: http://youtu.be/G1JAzjQ0yM0
Same goes for @serajr
Watch this video and you'll understand why we are supporting this guy as well.
Serajr Xperia Xposed - Z3 Home "Hide Apps Drawer"…: http://youtu.be/SwtWSVOu0vc
This is just one of millions functions in this fantastic Xposed module.
I hope all goes well. Its a shame i cant donate i am only 14 yrs of age and i dont get lots of pocket money. I wish i could help.
Have a great rest of your day,
Thanks,
Mohamed
Totally agree!
It's just an honor for me to be remembered! Thank you so much buddy... you're amazing!
As I told you before and now again I confirm... whatever the outcome, all of you will have my full support, as I have always done in recent years.
And if xposed do not reach lollipop, things will be put into practice with oldschool modding method... smali editing!!
Long live Xperia development!
moman2000 said:
I hope all goes well. Its a shame i cant donate i am only 14 yrs of age and i dont get lots of pocket money. I wish i could help.
Have a great rest of your day,
Thanks,
Mohamed
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It's perfectly fine mate - this is support as well.
Sometimes few good words helps more then all the money of the world...
We are a community, that means that we must help others.
Serajr and me are working hard to bring you as much as we can but we need devices to work on.
The Xperia users doesn't have many developpers because Sony phones aren't as popular as Samsung or HTC.
I am motivated to keep supporting you so if all users are giving us even a few bucks we will be able to buy devices and work for you
Thanks
Cheers
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It's perfectly fine mate - this is support as well.
Sometimes few good words helps more then all the money of the world...
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Thx, that means alot to me.
Sounds good
I do believe we should mostly prioratize Z2 in development still
Its growing and we should continue to contribute to it growing.
We have Omni Rom on the way along with Multi-Rom thanks to Myself5 and Oliver
Now even if these two dont get finished any time soon you can see proof of their contributions/hardwork in github toward other users
Perhaps these two deserve to be on the list @funky0308
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Sounds good
I do believe we should mostly prioratize Z2 in development still
Its growing and we should continue to contribute to it growing.
We have Omni Rom on the way along with Multi-Rom thanks to Myself5 and Oliver
Now even if these two dont get finished any time soon you can see proof of their contributions/hardwork in github toward other users
Perhaps these two deserve to be on the list @funky0308
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Absolutely agree...but we'll have to work hard on PR to kick that little greedy person in all of us to understand we can't continue without developmers support and to donate and support.
We saw last bounty thread (for Z2 buying), we hardly raised for two devices.
If you ask me, I would buy 20 devices and would give them to many developers and contributors...but...
If we add few devs more here, we will stuck at the beginning and failed.
I really hope I'm wrong but I doubt.
When we raise more then 1000-1500$ I'll gladly add few devs more to list.
This is day two and still no informations about donations (read : no donations for now)...
XDA isn't about paying someone to get root or ROM, we should support our developers every day, with a simple word or a few bucks - only then we'll have great community that could work together.
It's not about money but it's ridiculous to expect devs will buy every Xperia Sony release (even he didn't planned that) just to work "for us".
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Absolutely agree...but we'll have to work hard on PR to kick that little greedy person in all of us to understand we can't continue without developmers support and to donate and support.
We saw last bounty thread (for Z2 buying), we hardly raised for two devices.
If you ask me, I would buy 20 devices and would give them to many developers and contributors...but...
If we add few devs more here, we will stuck at the beginning and failed.
I really hope I'm wrong but I doubt.
When we raise more then 1000-1500$ I'll gladly add few devs more to list.
This is day two and still no informations about donations (read : no donations for now)...
XDA isn't about paying someone to get root or ROM, we should support our developers every day, with a simple word or a few bucks - only then we'll have great community that could work together.
It's not about money but it's ridiculous to expect devs will buy every Xperia Sony release (even he didn't planned that) just to work "for us".
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True but i was planning on trying to get my self a Xperia Z4 primarily for development reasons.(you can ask people who know me if you want proof)
My plan is to build cwm and twrp for Z4 with the help of @Abhinav2
Oliver im not sure if he would want to dev for Z4 and same goes for myself5 but if we have them onboard we can atleast expect multi-rom/cm11,cm12/Omni-Rom
@funky0308
If we are going to get devs devices then we need to get atleast the foundation devs
These devs are the ones who get the initial important things out there and doomlord is an example of this, for Z2 he brought very worthwhile devs to Xperia Z2 and faux was one, his contributions here are large
If you want proof this is for development and not greed then i can give you proof
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True but i was planning on trying to get my self a Xperia Z4 primarily for development reasons.(you can ask people who know me if you want proof)
My plan is to build cwm and twrp for Z4 with the help of @Abhinav2
Oliver im not sure if he would want to dev for Z4 and same goes for myself5 but if we have them onboard we can atleast expect multi-rom/cm11,cm12/Omni-Rom
@funky0308
If we are going to get devs devices then we need to get atleast the foundation devs
These devs are the ones who get the initial important things out there and doomlord is an example of this, for Z2 he brought very worthwhile devs to Xperia Z2 and faux was one, his contributions here are large
If you want proof this is for development and not greed then i can give you proof
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Hehe....no one needs prof, we all know you are and who are all the guys you have mentioned.
This idea and thread is attempt to keep two guys who are very frisky on Z2, stock based development.
After hours and hours of corresponding and talking to XDA users we agreed to one thing - we need LB dev support.
I'm not trying to say Doom isn't important, he is legend of Xperia devices and without his work many things we are using now would not be possible.
As soon as we collect founds for two devices we'll continue to collect money for other developers but we are known to be extremely difficult when we should support devs and give something back...
So, lets wait and see what will happen here.
If someone wants to say "here's xx $ for doomlord" - I'm perfectly fine with it.
But if I added five devs to this bounty, our money would spread all around and we wouldn't do anything...
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Hehe....no one needs prof, we all know you are and who are all the guys you have mentioned.
This idea and thread is attempt to keep two guys who are very frisky on Z2, stock based development.
After hours and hours of corresponding and talking to XDA users we agreed to one thing - we need LB dev support.
I'm not trying to say Doom isn't important, he is legend of Xperia devices and without his work many things we are using now would not be possible.
As soon as we collect founds for two devices we'll continue to collect money for other developers but we are known to be extremely difficult when we should support devs and give something back...
So, lets wait and see what will happen here.
If someone wants to say "here's xx $ for doomlord" - I'm perfectly fine with it.
But if I added five devs to this bounty, our money would spread all around and we wouldn't do anything...
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In which case bring [NUT] he is someone who can create recoveries for locked bootloader
Im mostly trying to get on the Z4 development bandwagon because i want to learn and contribute, Even though it isnt what your looking for it still helps those who you may not, Xperias always have strong LB support anyways, Xperia S and Z2 are examples i know very well and Xperia S didnt have any of this bounty stuff, it came along with time
Where doomlord usualy provides the first recovery and root methods ill try to since he is so busy and ive found life is hard when no one is there to do the work you cant do.
As for anything else with Z4 ill try to port multi-rom if Myself5 or Oliver wants to help however im not a dev nor a great dev but itll happen with time and patience
Also need i remind you that Xperia Z4 will most likely be releasing with Lollipop so even LB stuff will be hard, you would have to hotboot a recovery just to flash supersu and im not even sure if that can be done on locked bootloader and we definatly do need somone who can find and exploit if this is the case
We may be able to use adb to root but ill have to see on how adb acts in the situations i put it in.
I know you know of my capabilities with LB once i have recovery access @funky0308
Edit- if anyone @[NUT] is important for LB support
Grt initiation @funky0308. I see this is a good opportunity to bring devs to z4.. I have to agree on @Envious_Data on one thing.. Devs like NUT, Olivier, Myself5 are important to be on the list coz first thing, any user on xda will be needing root(lb), a recovery for lb, and custom roms for ub(cm/aosp) and ofc stock based roms.. I am not against niaboc or serajr.. They are grt devs n i am a big fan of their work.. I'm just trying to expand the list since we would be needing more devs in Z4.. I wish i could be any help in donating, but i am still a student. But atleast i hope we can contribute as a community and preserve good devs on xperia.. I remember a lot of good devs moving to sammy/htc.. One such example was letama.. You all remember him.. I suggest adding a few more devs like the ones i mentioned above to the list so that we can improve development.. Again, its just my opinion.. Peace..
I know why I said two names only and why I said those names.
Just check all bounties we had - we were struggling to raise money for two devices (and we failed, Niaboc had to add 60-70% to buy Z2)
I would like to have 10 000$ and to be able to buy device for everyone.
If we expand this list to ten names we won't do anything.
Who wants to support this - support, who don't want - just don't...
We have many great devs and contributors, it's impossible to add them all.
I know who is NUT, I know who is doom but if we want to be fair - we'll need someone as @jcase to find exploit in firmware.
For now, Z4 isn't even announced, so please, if you want to support our devs - support them.
It's ridiculous to talk about firmware which isn't announced yet...
We don't know what should we expect...and that's not subject of this thread.
I don't want to buy anything i just want to support guys who gave so much in last few years.
Even if they don't do a single thing on a next Xperia I still want to say tnx.
That's the purpose of this thread not to buy developer who will work 8 hour shift for us.
I said that in OP, this isn't root bounty, it's not ROM developing bounty or anything similar.
It's thread where we can show our appreciation to guys who work on Xperia devices and did amazing things...
So please, please, please....stop doing this - donate few bucks if you can...
This isn't true XDA spirit guys, we shouldn't buy developers, this isn't market..
We are supporting our developers no matter what, we are helping them to buy new device and we are trying to keep them near us.
That way they'll develop and we'll all have something from that.
Thanks
funky0308 said:
I know why I said two names only and why I said those names.
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Thanks
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Like said atleast try to get the initial important people first, you cant realy do much with LB if you dont have root or recovery for it, same goes with UB, you need a recovery either way.
Im sceptical since the device will release with lollipop.
Then we can go for other people.
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Like said atleast try to get the initial important people first, you cant realy do much with LB if you dont have root or recovery for it, same goes with UB, you need a recovery either way.
Im sceptical since the device will release with lollipop.
Then we can go for other people.
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Mate, please tell me, or show me when doom find exploit and rooted LB Xperia.
Do same for NUT please.
NUT is great guy but he was using phils and dooms work.
He did awesome things, just like doom but jcase did what you are talking about, not doom, nor NUT.
We'll see what will happen.
This is thanks thread to guys who did fantastic job.
Number of tnx on latest ROM by Niaboc and lateat Xposed module by Serajr said everything.
We will need many developers here, that's true.
So donate 40-50$ and lets expand this list.
I will donate today and I'm perfectly fine with list expand but lets show we are really on this.
When this bounty shows 500-600$ we can talk further...
It's easy to write names but I haven't seen a single dollar to confirm your statement.
We need devs...yes, we need them, show that, don't only write names.
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We'll see what will happen.
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Fair enough, atleast you understand my current point.
Lets wait and see.
My last point mostly acted on LB support.
Envious_Data said:
Fair enough, atleast you understand my current point.
Lets wait and see.
My last point mostly acted on LB support.
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As I said...
This was my plan...
But if anyone wants to donate to someone else (here), that's perfectly fine and it's more then welcome.
Lets start and buy (raise money) first two devices...if we can buy more then two devices - fantastic...
No one would be happier then me if we could buy 20 devices.. But lets start...
Every suggestion is welcomed, absolutely but lets keep this simple and lets have fun here...
funky0308 said:
As I said...
This was my plan...
But if anyone wants to donate to someone else (here), that's perfectly fine and it's more then welcome.
Lets start and buy (raise money) first two devices...if we can buy more then two devices - fantastic...
No one would be happier then me if we could buy 20 devices.. But lets start...
Every suggestion is welcomed, absolutely but lets keep this simple and lets have fun here...
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This may be planning way far ahead but im going to be buying a new device in a year and a half and i was thinking of creating a bounty list to atleast get [NUT] just because its not easy at all making recoveries for LB
Good idea @funky0308.. We should expand the list after we get more donations.. I agree wit u.. :thumbup: