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Hello friends! I created this thread to make a proposal to the dev's and cookers ...
Well, what I mean is that we have bright developers of ROMs for our XPERIA X8
I think most of them work on your own ROMs, without the assistance of anyone (I'm NOT saying they are not able to cook a ROM)
What I mean is that I think that all the dev's of X8 ROM's (as racht, doixanh or AnDyX), cookers (like ME!) and designers (like AChep) come together and form a team, so to create an all-new custom ROM with the help and idea of all users of the Xperia X8!
The forum is for everyone to share their ideas and how they can help in the development of custom ROMs for our devices, and I believe that together we can create a perfect ROM!
That's the idea and proposed to you all, developers of ROMs of our Xperia X8 ...
I think it's a good idea!
Who agrees with me?
Remember: In unity is strength!
It sounds good in theory but I doubt they will work on a single rom. As far as I see it, racht likes gingerbread and has abandoned his floyo rom, but dx likes froyo so he started adding things from gingerbread for users to have a better experience while using it. One thing that I know for certain, if someone manages to find a fix for a problem in any rom I am sure they will share their work with others, because that's why they use these forums.
As for jerpelea he seems to focus more on the X10, which will get official gingerbread update, instead on X8 and that saddens me abit, but is his time to spend and he can do whatever he wants with it... AnDyX has done 2 modules but no rom so maybe ask him to make a rom from scratch by using knowledge gained from other devs.
I do not mean to them that I quoted ...
I refer to ALL's dev ...
I think if all agree to try to do this, we must settle on which Android will be based (Whether it will be 2.3 or 2.2, whatever), but I think that discussion is for later ...
My proposal is that all ideas come together and share their knowledge so that all interested members to create a fully-working near perfect ROM
This is my proposal and idea ...If anyone can understand me...
Salo-S said:
I do not mean to them that I quoted ...
I refer to ALL's dev ...
I think if all agree to try to do this, we must settle on which Android will be based (Whether it will be 2.3 or 2.2, whatever), but I think that discussion is for later ...
My proposal is that all ideas come together and share their knowledge so that all interested members to create a fully-working near perfect ROM
This is my proposal and idea ...If anyone can understand me...
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Hehe this is best idea i ever see on this forum ! Come one devs! Xda rocks! !! Sent from xgin 5.4
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I do not say that this not a good idea... but it's very-very difficult to work with someone else over the same project. I have never work over roms for phone but from my knowledge as a programmer i can say that it may be better working like now...
I was working with a programmer over a firefox addon (like the way you say) but it was very difficult. I was forced to inform him about everything i did, so to let him know what he should do. I started keeping notes and made a program lol...
You must be very consistent too do this...
I wish our devs have the time to set up such a project...
great idea, but... We only need to know if our devs agree with that..
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I do not say that this not a good idea... but it's very-very difficult to work with someone else over the same project. I have never work over roms for phone but from my knowledge as a programmer i can say that it may be better working like now...
I was working with a programmer over a firefox addon (like the way you say) but it was very difficult. I was forced to inform him about everything i did, so to let him know what he should do. I started keeping notes and made a program lol...
You must be very consistent too do this...
I wish our devs have the time to set up such a project...
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I feel the same way. It is very difficult to work with multiple people at the same project, each in a different place. Everyone should have from time to time the exact same code and this would necessarily mean working in shifts and not in a team.
What I see much more easy to do is try to understand what features should have the "perfect rom", such as it is doing doixanh for froyobread, posting polls and seeing what the majority prefers.
We could start with topics such as: 1) froyo base vs. gingerbread base, 2) favorite launcher, 3) basic applications preinstalled .. etc etc. ..
Then we might ask a developer to take charge of the project and prepare the ROM. As an incentive we can provide some donation, if at the end of the project will be many users of the forum to participate, there won't be too hard to put together a little cash I think.
What do you think? Could it be possible?
While I won't downplay this idea, because it does have its merit, this would be VERY hard to achieve. Devs would need to communicate everything they did to eachother, which could prove difficult. However what we COULD do is designate assignments for a specific dev. For example:
Doixanh - Porting Gingerbread features to Froyo and performance
Jerpelea & Blagus - Cracking the bootloader
And so on, so forth. Publish all the work in Google Code or Github to make easily accessible for the whole community.
This to me seems the only really viable way to go...
well I hope so !! really they are the betters and could pass something nice
So typical.
All i see are random members saying that it can't be done or that it is so hard to achieve.
Why can't you wait for devs to answer for themselves?
...I agree with all that this is difficult but... I think that the are already work in a team... xda devs' team... they already help each other enought.
First of all, this thread belongs to Genreal section.
Now on-topic:
I don't see any usefullness from this idea.
1st Devs are helping each other anyway for sure
2nd.. 2nddd?!?!?! :O
Oh, yeah... there's no second.
Point is:
Example: doixanh is stuck at something when making froyobread.. he will ask someone for tip...
racht hackdroid has camera disabled... kuya will fix it (altough he's a cooker, not dev I suppose)
You got it??
Apps preistalled, default launcher... install your favorites by yourself you lazyasses
if OP want it like cyanogenmod,
than it is freexperia project.
I don't see it working.
btw, yes, I'm not a "dev", I like and always be a newbie
Theres already a project like that, it is FreeXperia project, i suppose everyone already know that.
The point is, we should just continue that project, if someone already have a well programming knowledge, then they should just help that project, creating the libs for X8 to be used for 2.3+ Android version later.
that's good idea,newbie like me very happy to hear it
That's a good idea, but i think that we'll have more progress about a Cyanogen 7 rom soon enough.
Yes, there is a direct link between the two subjects in my discussion title.
The number of ROM’s released in this forum is about 14 (more or less).
All these bring the number of developer that released these ROM’S plus all the developers involved direct & indirect in the developing process to approx. to 20 or 25 maybe more…
Just imagining channeling all that power into one single product that will answer most if not all the user expectations on the ultimate ROM!
I am aware that it’s not easy to get consensus from all the users or even the developers for what is the ONE ROM that pleases the majority, but maybe be we should try harder to overcome these differences.
The user’s opinion we can get through a popularity poll, what features and functionality they like to see in a ROM.
To gather the developers is probably a much harder task but it is feasible to bring not all but a large number of them to the “table”.
I would like to have the forum member’s opinion on the subject and how to make this idea reality.
I posted this topic by error in the development section, can the moderator transfer it to Galaxy 3 General ?
Sorry & thanks - Itzik
great idea
How to optimize our brain power or how to produce the ultimate ROM? 2nd part
I feel the developers (or would be developers) needs, and I know that it’s a personal challenge to release a good ROM and to get the approval of his peers and users.
However, for most of the users it’s a nightmare, moving from one ROM to another, updates, kernels & themes...etc.
For every single ROM that I have installed to date something went wrong, don’t get me wrong I really believe that our group of developers is the most qualified, dedicated & smart individuals, nevertheless, we the users/ installers are going sometime through a grueling try & error process.
Today, I am on rooted stock JPQ without a single issue, but, I still love to have some of the capabilities & functions of our Galaxies S, S II big brothers & more..
The only way to achieve stability, optimize functionality & to go places where no phones got before; is unity!
And with the combine power of our developers there more chance that we will go places…
In my opinion:
It would be really nice if the following developers works together to bring an ultimate ROM (Obviously not Froyo base) which can take the user experience of G3 to a new level. I know they all are capable and do wonder if they get together. Surely they will have to forget the differences among them if there are any
1. Marcellusbe
2. Dharamg3
3. rudolf895
4. kyrillos13
5. apollo5801
6. The Dark Lestat
7. FadeFx
8. akash.gpta
9. mumbozver
10. Please add ur name if u think u can do wonder
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In my opinion:
1. Marcellusbe
2. Dharamg3
3. rudolf895
4. kyrillos13
5. apollo5801
6. The Dark Lestat
7. FadeFx
8. akash.gpta
9. mumbozver
10. Please add ur name if u think u can do wonder
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That s a frigging awesome list.
I hope this will be reality someday....but i think is only a good dream(
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I hope this will be reality someday....but i think is only a good dream
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Years back we dreamed getting to the moon...and!?
itzik_man said:
Years back we dreamed getting to the moon...and!?
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Months back we dreamed of getting Gingerbread. And now??
We are getting it.
Imagine Marcellusbe, Dharamg3 and Apollo all making one kernel and all the others making the themes/Roms that would be awesome and based on Gingerbread
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I am waiting for the first developer among those 9 to confirm that he is also interested for this good cause.
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brjshshrma said:
In my opinion:
It would be really nice if the following developers works together to bring an ultimate ROM (Obviously not Froyo base) which can take the user experience of G3 to a new level. I know they all are capable and do wonder if they get together. Surely they will have to forget the differences among them if there are any
1. Marcellusbe
2. Dharamg3
3. rudolf895
4. kyrillos13
5. apollo5801
6. The Dark Lestat
7. FadeFx
8. akash.gpta
9. mumbozver
10. Please add ur name if u think u can do wonder
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I can make a Theme
How to optimize our brain power or how to produce the ultimate ROM? 3th & last part
This is not a revolution, but we the users/installers, need to wake up and tell our developers:
We love your work, respect you effort and above all applaud your contribution, however, this forum should not become a battle ground for who produces the best ROM, it should be about; combined strategy to minimizing our frustrations by delivering the best possible solution.
Moreover, the appreciation of the users will definitely generate (my opinion) extra donations for the developer’s effort.
Rafayel, great initiative…
I can see all the issues i have/would have, already disappearing....:d
I dont really see this happening, cause I dont see a rom that can unite developers. A CM/GB port could have done that when there was no such thing going on, since it would be a great leap, but after that is done I dont see anything important/great/whatever enough to unite them under one project. A different kind of unity is more important, and which is already happening.
The unity I'm talking about is not a unity under one project, but a unity as a community, as a group of people. This is already happening. Developers should have understanding and respect for each other, should help and guide each other. Sharing what they have accomplished with each other would not provide us with one ultimate rom, but with many! Everything that is being done should be collaborative, not just one rom.
I'll stop now (since I'm pretty hungry and so I am having trouble conveying my thoughts properly), but I'll just say that I'm not trying to tell devs what to do, nor am I saying that stuff like this isn't happening(it is), I just want to express what I think would be ideal.
Good idea but you know some have already tried this... Yes, im talking about armv project they started out great but look what happened its now dead. Im not saying this is impossible but think bout it, its very hard for everyone :/ i mean we each have our own projects. (i.e marcellusbes cm7) and i dont think it would work Its hard to control a group of (10-15) devs i mean if there is no boss then its very hard to try to communicate and if there is a boss then some people would complain cuz they dont want any boss/leader. Also there is a risk of someone leaking info/tweaks/mods in such a big group. I myself think this will not happen but if it will, im happy
this is all MY OPINION
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I dont think anybody will have a complain if marcellusbe heads the group coz all the developers and the entire G3 community respects him a lot.
If any senior developer takes the initiative then this might become a possible thing happening.
*Thanks to clarkkov who originally thought this and expressed the idea in Indroid thread.
stubborn_d0nkey - If, and only if this idea (brjshshrma - I never claimed this as my original idea!) can not materialized, yes, more discussion & synchronization has to take place between the developers (will save allot of try & error of implementations).
Just an example: I read very recent, an exchange of posts between 2 dev's that bought were using the same theme…
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stubborn_d0nkey - If, and only if this idea (brjshshrma - I never claimed this as my original idea!) can not materialized, yes, more discussion & synchronization has to take place between the developers (will save allot of try & error of implementations).
Just an example: I read very recent, an exchange of posts between 2 dev's that bought were using the same theme…
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Marcellusbe sir posted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15948716&postcount=409
He says he likes to work alone!!
Let me start the thread by a warm greetings. Happy New Year Everyone.
Its been a very great year for X8 owners. Here are some review last 2011
WHAT WE HAD
Fully Working Froyo
Fully Working Gingerbread
Unlocked Bootloader
Real Dual Touch
Overclocked
Undervolt
Custom Kernels
etc..
Not to mention also there's a lot of new potential developers came and go.
WHAT WE LOST
Racth
TeamXperia
Doixanh
Indonesian Devs
etc..
WHAT IS LEFT
TROLLS
Some promising DEV's
WHAT IS THE FUTURE OF X8
Maybe we can already foresee what will happened here if we dont start changing our bad attitude that discourages devs.
Its quite sad that we had a reverse progress rather than we go up and be stronger, we fall down because of our selfishness.
What will be your resolution for this year? Hope not to troll more.
Good luck and Have fun to those who are new and old in the Community.
I totally agree. This community became already a FLAMMING ZONE.
70% are just flamming post only 30% are just useful. At the end of the year people mess this community up.
What happened with dx? been a while since his last update on gdx, i kinda miss him
The best thing we can do is to report troll comments on the forums so that the mods and adms can delete the replys and make this place a more peaceful one, and with some luck, the devs will encourage to continue developing X8!
Goodbye
PD: Sorry for my bad english.
Hes out of the scene due to stupid and demanding peoples here.
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Hes out of the scene due to stupid and demanding peoples here.
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dont start a war mike.
Lol I just answered the above question. Why do you have a better answers and explanation why DX quit?
theres also our great nAa who is still in development of our X8
FXP never leave us,,look at they github,they still update they project for x8.
maybe our "true" devs just silent,and we know 'why' they keep silent.
and look at development thread,to much rom with no dev there,just theming and change launcher people make new thread ^_^ . i'm not say DONT,but we must think; what we have done to post in "DEVELOPMENT"?
hope this year our comunnity will be better and better.
sorry for my poor english.
+1 deedii
I hope everybody is back n developing again specially CM9 for mdpi x8.
hoping in a week there's a good news about it.
but life goes on..maybe they don't have x8 anymore.. but I hope for the best.
goodluck for the new dev here.. user too.
I'm feeling so lucky being around here on early stage of development till last year.
now something weird is going on in dev sec..:? idk
and last, maybe its kinda too late..
happy new year to you all.
(sorry for my English)
Yes,
I love my X8, it is my best partner,
Even my gf envy's it,
Now when see what all is happening on the forum, really hurts,
Let encourage devs to do their best.
Forget to say ROMS threads whit no Links!
And for 2012 promisses list:
-ICS on X8!
-Trolls!
-New Devs shutting up the trolls!
-More Trolls!
-And unfortunatelly for me,a new Phone...I will miss X8 and this great comunity,although the Spammers,people here are incredible!
The X8 community isn't what it used to be anymore. Our forums are slowly decaying. At the time I signed up, there was a flame of so much interest and willingness to help others. Truthfully, I can't see that flame anymore. This place has been filled up with trolls and many useless post. I myself, was eager to learn and help others when I was able to but I'm not that active anymore. I have grown tired of this
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The X8 community isn't what it used to be anymore. Our forums are slowly decaying. At the time I signed up, there was a flame of so much interest and willingness to help others. Truthfully, I can't see that flame anymore. This place has been filled up with trolls and many useless post. I myself, was eager to learn and help others when I was able to but I'm not that active anymore. I have grown tired of this
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true,am afraid soon thd community will run out of devs too,if this kinda negative atmosophere goes on,
ur rite that earlier there was willingness to help,maybe even learn and teach,but now from wat i see is only flame throwing at each other
Its been fun on Arc/S Community on XDA
Cheers to all Arc/S users. The Sexiest Device we ever had. Sleek Design, Handy and Handful device for a Mid Range its pretty Cool.
Upon using the Phone for few months I am still love this other mid range phone out there.
Checking every 5 hrs on XDA and spending many time reading the Arc/s thread. I did developed a ROM though I discontinued it coz of some Annoying dev's out there who don't want any competition about the roms. I mean the site was intended for us to Share and Experiment with our handset. The only thing worked out is my Swap Thread and I really have good time with it and a company notice me then proposed to Buy my developing Swapler app and I give thanks all to XDA forum. I truly appreciate the Motive of setting this forum up and the Moderators on Arc/S are very nice to the users.
Before I leave the Arc/S community I will just make Roms for my Fellow Filipino mates with Chaos. I was still wanting to develop good roms here. I was planing to Tandem with Chaos to make such good roms for Arc/s. But I guess some troll will be Intimidating our Release and again Fire will spark over and over again so I got sick of these (Kid/Infant Attitude) as I guess Iridaki will Agree with me.
I will post my Creations on Android Section from this point. I will make with add Swapler and realease for free but its still on Approval.
Its been fun. I hope moderators will automatically delete Irrelevant topic of Troll here. Hammer theme with Chuck Norris :victory:
Its just when Free sharing become business donation to others.
Ciao Arc/s
My Works: The Arctic Rom (Discontinued)
Swapper: Swapper [Root Users] Reduce Lag and Save Ram
Moving to Razr and SGN.
Patambiz said:
Its been fun on Arc/S Community on XDA
Cheers to all Arc/S users. The Sexiest Device we ever had. Sleek Design, Handy and Handful device for a Mid Range its pretty Cool.
Upon using the Phone for few months I am still love this other mid range phone out there.
Checking every 5 hrs on XDA and spending many time reading the Arc/s thread. I did developed a ROM though I discontinued it coz of some Annoying dev's out there who don't want any competition about the roms. I mean the site was intended for us to Share and Experiment with our handset. The only thing worked out is my Swap Thread and I really have good time with it and a company notice me then proposed to Buy my developing Swapler app and I give thanks all to XDA forum. I truly appreciate the Motive of setting this forum up and the Moderators on Arc/S are very nice to the users.
Before I leave the Arc/S community I will just make Roms for my Fellow Filipino mates with Chaos. I was still wanting to develop good roms here. I was planing to Tandem with Chaos to make such good roms for Arc/s. But I guess some troll will be Intimidating our Release and again Fire will spark over and over again so I got sick of these (Kid/Infant Attitude) as I guess Iridaki will Agree with me.
I will post my Creations on Android Section from this point. I will make with add Swapler and realease for free but its still on Approval.
Its been fun. I hope moderators will automatically delete Irrelevant topic of Troll here. Hammer theme with Chuck Norris :victory:
Ciao Arc/s
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Even though I don't know much about your work or your support for the Arc / Arc S, it's sad to see guys leaving thanks to a bunch of morons that's envy on other guys quality work. Yes, your SWAP application is joy and quality (at the same time) that has saved me a lot of times when struggling to make ICS worth my time, and to avoid making this too fanboyish - I wish u all luck with whatever you now are going to do!
Thanks for your support, Patambiz! And a lot of greetings (hopefully) from the Arc community.
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Hey guys and girlz,
as many of you know, the developement for our device is not that great and fast because everybody (except from ivendor and arco and maybe some others) is working alone on a ROM/kernel. We could speed this up by building a dev team where all devs for our device and maybe from galaxy w can work together and improve ROM for ROM instead of doing each ROM alone.
Hope we can do this :good:
If anybody is interested, post it here or PM me
Greets and regards,
markey
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markey97 said:
Hey guys and girlz,
as many of you know, the developement for our device is not that great and fast because everybody (except from ivendor and arco and maybe some others) is working alone on a ROM/kernel. We could speed this up by building a dev team where all devs for our device and maybe from galaxy w can work together and improve ROM for ROM instead of doing each ROM alone.
Hope we can do this :good:
If anybody is interested, post it here or PM me
Greets and regards,
markey
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Hm. Mate are you blind? Look at this forum. We have a lot of roms, some are even twice there from 2 different developers.
For me, personally its perfect like it is. Arco and Ivendor as lead developers for CM10. Other devs can contribute or take their work and make a new rom out of it.
Especially for a almost 2 years old device our forum is really awesome and you should be happy for what weve got here.
Just my 2 cents.
P.s: This is the development section. You should ask things like that on the General section, in the i9001 thread.
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Hm. Mate are you blind? Look at this forum. We have a lot of roms, some are even twice there from 2 different developers.
For me, personally its perfect like it is. Arco and Ivendor as lead developers for CM10. Other devs can contribute or take their work and make a new rom out of it.
Especially for a almost 2 years old device our forum is really awesome and you should be happy for what weve got here.
Just my 2 cents.
P.s: This is the development section. You should ask things like that on the General section, in the i9001 thread.
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First of all, i appreciate all the work of ivendor , skywalker, brood, xistance and arco and others who did an amazing job of porting major roms to our device. But i must honestly say, i agree on some points with the OP. It is amazing with what we achieved on our small but awesome community, but our phone is getting old and eventually we will be left behind. So now it is the best time to combine all of the knowledge that is hidden in our i9001 section to ensure the future.
In the past year i have been in this section i saw a lot of stuff that could be fixed faster if people would communicate more, like the well known cm9 camera problem (i dont know for sure there was miscommunication as i dont know what happened in the background). A dev team would be awesome.
But i am afraid that this won't work anymore. The glorious days of the i9001 are over. Many good devs left us.
But is is worth the shot. Would be so awesome! If you have any android knowledge, please join.
(I am to stupid. I cant join. I know how qtADB works but that is all).
Also i like the idea of combining the two devices and make a giant dev team for both so we can benefit from there knowledge and they from ours!
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XeLLaR* said:
Hm. Mate are you blind? Look at this forum. We have a lot of roms, some are even twice there from 2 different developers.
For me, personally its perfect like it is. Arco and Ivendor as lead developers for CM10. Other devs can contribute or take their work and make a new rom out of it.
Especially for a almost 2 years old device our forum is really awesome and you should be happy for what weve got here.
Just my 2 cents.
P.s: This is the development section. You should ask things like that on the General section, in the i9001 thread.
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No i'm not, otherwise I couldn't have read the forum and written this here
(Just joking)
I know that we have a lot of ROMs, but there are some from 2 different developers because one of them hasn't updated very long or stopped the project and then a new dev took the work.
Thats your personal opinion and I accept it.
I mean this all because of the bugs that have to be fixed.
No its not that awesome, look at the dhd, they have a big dev team who solves most of the bugs there and they have fully functional Android 4.2 and MANY more ROMs than we have also have a look at some other 2 or more year old devices, most of them have big dev teams who do fast and great work.
I really appreciate the work of all our developers (!!we have a 3.4 kernel which even much newer and better devices don't have!!) but we can make this even better and faster.
Thanks i know this but in general section we couldn't get a team together and i also forgot about this section because i mostly (nearly only) use the developement section
Greets and regards,
markey
I seem to agree with xellar's view. Our I9001 forum is great as it is for a two year old device and development seems to be moving forward at a well-placed pace. I dont see any point in creating a ''dev team'' . Dont get me wrong , I'd love to see it happen. But Im comfortable with the pace here .
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I would also apreciate a dev. BUT the developement of the last 2 years was that good, that i can't comlpain on anything. It works very well the way it goes now. Maybe in the near future (~6 moths) when more importent (doesn't mean the other are unimportant) devs leave the s+ and 5.0 will be roll out, maybe then we need a dev-team.
But we have already s.t. like dev-teams:
Arco and Ivendor (CM9/10)
The kernel devs (Erik, castagna, Biagio, Christopher, ...)
Xistance and Doom (CM10.1)
They all share allready there knowledge and function.
So... No need to hurry in my opinion :beer:
"...nothing is more powerful than a young boy's wish. Except an Apache helicopter..." -Ted
i think we have a lack of devs contributing to really port the newer versions of android. its only arco and ivendor who are doing this and since arco wanted to concentrate more on his own device its only ivendor (arco is yet still involved with our phone). everyone else is "just" forking from ivendor, aokp, aosp and paranoid which is great and which is not necessarily easy. without them there would be nothing else but the cm rom. still its not comparable to ivendors or arcos work. i dont want to diminish the importance of the work of others (sadly i have to always mention it when saying things like that...). i just didn't see them commit to ivendors github and ivendors credits concede my point.
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I'd love to be in the team
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i think we have a lack of devs contributing to really port the newer versions of android. its only arco and ivendor who are doing this and since arco wanted to concentrate more on his own device its only ivendor (arco is yet still involved with our phone). everyone else is "just" forking from ivendor, aokp, aosp and paranoid which is great and which is not necessarily easy. without them there would be nothing else but the cm rom. still its not comparable to ivendors or arcos work. i dont want to diminish the importance of the work of others (sadly i have to always mention it when saying things like that...). i just didn't see them commit to ivendors github and ivendors credits concede my point.
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As true as this is, I still don't like the fact that you say we just fork their work. Both arco and ivendor haven't even started doing any real work on 4.2, forget giving us anything. Camcory and I have brought 4.2 by ourselves, just using arco's kernel source(which is REALLY important so I'm saying nothing to arco).
you probably saw what a mess the "perfectly working cm7" was even though mazen said hes not a real developer. when the 3.4 kernel came up it turned out to be not properly ported. no offense to both of those guys since cm7 actually was usable and the kernel had its right to exist (educk, if you read this, no need to defend yourself, i've read the whole thread).
but you must understand that im kind of suspicious with new things since i don't know if you know what youre doing. im not judging, i really don't know because i'm not qualified. also i dont see anything else going on on your github but your 4.2 porting. so i cant see any references. i also dont see any commits from camcory. thats another thing i cant get an opinion about.
but arco and ivendor have proven to be pretty skilled. i remember someone saying we would never have a 3.x kernel because someone who wanted to port it would be insane...
im still thankful for what youre doing since if ivendor quits its all on you
and im sorry you got in the "just forking" cathegory and everybody else who doesn't feel he belongs there. im just generalizing...
just actually saw your sig. still doesn't change much
dr.wtf said:
you probably saw what a mess the "perfectly working cm7" was even though mazen said hes not a real developer. when the 3.4 kernel came up it turned out to be not properly ported. no offense to both of those guys since cm7 actually was usable and the kernel had its right to exist (educk, if you read this, no need to defend yourself, i've read the whole thread).
but you must understand that im kind of suspicious with new things since i don't know if you know what youre doing. im not judging, i really don't know because i'm not qualified. also i dont see anything else going on on your github but your 4.2 porting. so i cant see any references. i also dont see any commits from camcory. thats another thing i cant get an opinion about.
but arco and ivendor have proven to be pretty skilled. i remember someone saying we would never have a 3.x kernel because someone who wanted to port it would be insane...
im still thankful for what youre doing since if ivendor quits its all on you
and im sorry you got in the "just forking" cathegory and everybody else who doesn't feel he belongs there. im just generalizing...
just actually saw your sig. still doesn't change much
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Only one thing to say:: does not make any sense at all...
What op asked is on team..wats happening here is just nonsense..if somebody interested to work with him pls do it..if u are not interested get the f** k out of here...its not must that each and everyone has to put their point of view..if u are ready to help then help..otherwise leave from this thread...simple....
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This thread needs to be closed. Its like a slap in the face for all of our developers. Shame on you! Show some respect to them. They sacrifiy a lot time to give us a better user experience for our phones but well, everyone is like "hurrdhurr dat fone is not even like a galaxy s3 now brah after flasching tis rom my fone suks bad ass".. Instead of saying thanks to the developers or donate some buck to them for a fresh beer or something.
Always remember this is a single core device, with a midrange chipset and it cant handle even close as much as a S3 or S2.
We have a fully working (vsync and tripple buffer are working and all ither stuff) Jellybean cm10. Not even the s2 or s3 have this because of the lack of sources for their exynos cpus.
I hate this unrepectless behavior.
Be happy with what you got here FOR FREE. And for a Non-flagship device like our i9001, we have A HELL OF A LOT roms and kernels!
Get your **** together people.
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Disrespectfull: YES understandeble: YES.
At our forum/development we got 1-person teams. Some ROMS are made with someone on the background (CM9/CM10/CM10.1).. But the other ROMS that are based on these are made and maintained by 1 person.
I got the feeling that some of us dont have PATIENCE..
And that is something what is very stupid.
Teams are working faster and fixing faster and better bugs in ROMS, that is true.
If the OP want to make a team just ask some developers for godssake. These topic are as disrespectfull as saying WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO UPDATE OR FIXING THIS OR THAT in every goddamm topic.
Just my opnion..
dr.wtf said:
you probably saw what a mess the "perfectly working cm7" was even though mazen said hes not a real developer. when the 3.4 kernel came up it turned out to be not properly ported. no offense to both of those guys since cm7 actually was usable and the kernel had its right to exist (educk, if you read this, no need to defend yourself, i've read the whole thread).
but you must understand that im kind of suspicious with new things since i don't know if you know what youre doing. im not judging, i really don't know because i'm not qualified. also i dont see anything else going on on your github but your 4.2 porting. so i cant see any references. i also dont see any commits from camcory. thats another thing i cant get an opinion about.
but arco and ivendor have proven to be pretty skilled. i remember someone saying we would never have a 3.x kernel because someone who wanted to port it would be insane...
im still thankful for what youre doing since if ivendor quits its all on you
and im sorry you got in the "just forking" cathegory and everybody else who doesn't feel he belongs there. im just generalizing...
just actually saw your sig. still doesn't change much
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Alright, even through, I shouldn't have any comments here as you already screw things up really bad, I feel like I must do it to clear things up a bit around here.
First of all, you said yourself that you don't have any knowledge related to software development, so why are you messing with people that actually devote time to do it? If you have no ideea what development is, why are you talking about it in this manner? I mean, it is ok to ask or to make mistakes, everybody does, nobody is perfect but I consider this post offensive and I must defend myself here.
Second, as far as I'm consern, my GitHub is MINE and I and only I will decide when to push something there. I cannot be forced by anyone to do anything. So, your sentece "I didn's see anything going on on your github" so what?!? Tell me, why should I post anything just for you to see it? Ah, you think I lack activity? Again, so what? I or any other Open Source developer cannot be forced by anyone to publish something. We do this because we like it, we are not paid for it. Maybe if you would pay me to do these things, yeah you could have the right to judge my activity. This is open source, this is Android, the developers are bringing stuff to the end user but the end user is free to choose if he wants to use that piece of software or if he doesn't want to use that software. Same applies to you, you don't have to flash anything on your phone just because it's there online, if you don't like it, don't use it .
About my 3.4 kernel. I mentioned in the OP of the thread that it is an early "alpha" nothing more. I even used the word "preview". If the end user doesn't like the way the kernel is, than he wont use it.
Oh, and I'm not supposed to say this but I'll take this opportunity just for you to see that I'm not lacking activity and actually I want to develop that 3.4 kernel, also I'll explain why I didn't update anything on github.
I worked locally, and everytime I fixed something, 2 other errors came up, after I fixed those 2, another 3 came up and so on. That's why I choosed not to push anything to git until I get something concret. I said this a million times actually: I have no ideea when that kernel will be ready and if it will be ready, I am going to decide if it will be published to git and XDA or not. This is my personal decision, you can't influence me in any way to do anything.
Also, I'm not a full time developer, I'm still a beginer, I'm still learning things here and I choosed to share my work with others, here on XDA because I thought that my work could be usefull. If you or anyone else don't find it usefull, as I said, don't use it .
Also, ivendor won't quit either and there is nothing on me...again, you are trying to push me...this is hilarious...I choosed to start the 3.4 kernel project but that doesn't mean that I must finish it... I really hope you understood something from this post, if not please, just let it go and ignore it. Also, there is no need to apologise, you were wrong by trying to put pressure on me but I ignored it, as you probaly noticed.
Cheers,
Erik
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Insulting to our developers an absolutly not development related..
Cheers
Thread Closed:
This topic has turned to a flame war and no longer serves a purpose.
Appreciate the work the devs do, as they aren't required to do anything...
~ The-Captain