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After hearing this news about the new screens coming to the nexus one it got me thinking. Will i be able to purchase an after market nexus one SLCD and install it on my "OLD" Nexus one, if not why?
We probably won't know until someone actually gets their hands on a Nexus with the SLCD and decides to disassemble it to make sure everything is the same to know if it's possible. But screen replacement is always pretty risky so unless you know what you're doing, I wouldn't try it anyways.
To me the question is why would you even want LCD over amoled. Amoled is better. They are only using LCD for lack of supply.
yeah i would never try doing that. i will get someone to do it for me and have them be responsible for any mistakes they make!
yeah i doubt anyone will tare down their N1 unless they break it...
blablum said:
To me the question is why would you even want LCD over amoled. Amoled is better. They are only using LCD for lack of supply.
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well my reason is i like being able to see my screen in the morning while on the bus. Its really about give or take in this situation. Its nice having a really nice screen with the deep blacks at night but at the end of the day i want my screen to be visible with out seeing my reflection while I'm out side..
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well my reason is i like being able to see my screen in the morning while on the bus. Its really about give or take in this situation. Its nice having a really nice screen with the deep blacks at night but at the end of the day i want my screen to be visible with out seeing my reflection while I'm out side..
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You mean you don't want your screen turning into a mirror when you're outside??
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You mean you don't want your screen turning into a mirror when you're outside??
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exactly this guys knows what im talking about!
but if there was a way to kinda provide a type filter on the screen that would help reduce the reflectiveness of the screen and not by Anti Glare, glare is not the problem its mainly reflections
Super-AMOLED displays are AMOLED displays with an integrated touch function..
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well my reason is i like being able to see my screen in the morning while on the bus.
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Ah, ok, that makes more sense. I don't know if it would help at all as I haven't tried miself, but reflected light is mostly polarized, maybe getting light sunglasses with polarized lenses would improve readability?
I just tried that, it doesn't seem to work, what almost sort of worked was putting my sun glasses on the screen and that improved the visibility very considerably. I dont know the UV rating for my glasses but only down side is that my screen a tone darker with the phone set on "auto".
solidmac said:
Its nice having a really nice screen with the deep blacks at night but at the end of the day i want my screen to be visible with out seeing my reflection while I'm outside.
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Well, at the end of the day the night starts, so the AMOLED screen in your N1 will do it just fine!
Lol lol you got me there but can someone have a answer for my filter question ?
Just noticed someone posted a question on the old 7 forum about screen polarization. Mine unfortunately blacks out with my sunglasses when it's held in landscape. I was planning on using it while flying for gps purposes so I'll have to invest in some non-polarized glasses.
48dodge said:
Just noticed someone posted a question on the old 7 forum about screen polarization. Mine unfortunately blacks out with my sunglasses when it's held in landscape. I was planning on using it while flying for gps purposes so I'll have to invest in some non-polarized glasses.
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This is really just a problem with how LCD's in general are made. Can't really do much about it other than different sunglasses as you mentioned.
I wonder if that was my question. I remember posting about it in the old N7 forum. At any rate, thanks for posting this! I'm still holding out for the LTE version.
Things can be done with the design to make lcds useable with polarized sunglasses. My xoom only blacks out on 2 of the 45deg angles. Works fine landscape and portrait. My s4 is fine during 360deg just slight color shifting mainly just at the 45deg angles.
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Things can be done with the design to make lcds useable with polarized sunglasses. My xoom only blacks out on 2 of the 45deg angles. Works fine landscape and portrait. My s4 is fine during 360deg just slight color shifting mainly just at the 45deg angles.
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That's because the S4 uses OLED, its a different type of screen technology.
Yeah forgot about that on the s4. The xoom's screen orientation would have been nice
Has anyone noticed faint horizontal white lines running across graphic images? I've noticed this most in widgets or picture thumbnails. Tried to take a screenshot but they don't seem to get captured. Very thin lines - like just a pixel or two in width. Sometimes changing screen and coming back makes them disappear. Often if I move the screen by swiping they disappear (even with a very small movement) but then reappear as soon as I let go. Don't think I've noticed on previous smartphones; wasn't sure if this was a byproduct of the 1080p resolution.
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Has anyone noticed faint horizontal white lines running across graphic images? I've noticed this most in widgets or picture thumbnails. Tried to take a screenshot but they don't seem to get captured. Very thin lines - like just a pixel or two in width. Sometimes changing screen and coming back makes them disappear. Often if I move the screen by swiping they disappear (even with a very small movement) but then reappear as soon as I let go. Don't think I've noticed on previous smartphones; wasn't sure if this was a byproduct of the 1080p resolution.
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In certain lighting, I see what looks like a dot matrix all over the screen, but from what I've heard, that's normal. Not sure what exactly that is though...
I can see it the clearest when the screen is off. I think it is part of the screen tech, not the resolution, but I could be wrong
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Has anyone noticed faint horizontal white lines running across graphic images? I've noticed this most in widgets or picture thumbnails. Tried to take a screenshot but they don't seem to get captured. Very thin lines - like just a pixel or two in width. Sometimes changing screen and coming back makes them disappear. Often if I move the screen by swiping they disappear (even with a very small movement) but then reappear as soon as I let go. Don't think I've noticed on previous smartphones; wasn't sure if this was a byproduct of the 1080p resolution.
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I cant replicate your problem, sounds like you my friend may have bad screen. I would request a replacement at your closest vendor.
And the dot matrix on the screen is part of the screen, essentially it is part of the touch system that you love and cherish!
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And the dot matrix on the screen is part of the screen, essentially it is part of the touch system that you love and cherish!
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Unfortunately this "dot matrix" looks hideous and I've never seen it on any phone that I have on that I owned several flagship phones.
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Unfortunately this "dot matrix" looks hideous and I've never seen it on any phone that I have on that I owned several flagship phones.
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I'm sure you can if you hold them a certain way in the light, you will notice it. I know on my Bionic it is visible but can only be seen if held the right way in the light with the screen off.
htc incredible was a flagship phone and had it.
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I cant replicate your problem, sounds like you my friend may have bad screen. I would request a replacement at your closest vendor.
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Hmm... might check on that. Got the phone at Best Buy - not sure how good they are about replacements. Problem is, the issue is kind of fleeting. What I mean is these lines are not static. Even when I see them it looks like there is a touch of flashing going on, and the slightest screen swipe makes them go away. Sometimes they stay gone and sometimes they come right back. I wish I could do a screen capture - maybe I will have to just photo edit some lines to illustrate what I see
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htc incredible was a flagship phone and had it.
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I'm sure you're being sarcastic, I'm talking about current flagships
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I'm sure you're being sarcastic, I'm talking about current flagships
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no but really, the inc was an awesome flagship ;D
and at the time i think HTC was one of the few phones that did the dots still..i remember the moto x didn't have them. i don't even know what the point of them is
I can see them on mine, but only in certain light and at certain angles and when off. I never see them when using it.
Finally got around to taking a picture of this with a separate camera. This is the weirdest issue! I can't capture it with a screenshot. It only happens on some images, and even those sometimes the lines disappear if I rotate the display. I tried doing a factory reset but that didn't help. Doesn't seem to be a hardware issue because I don't see it anywhere else except certain images (probably like 5 - 10% of them). Not app related - I've seen this happen in many apps that have images. This attachment was done in the Play Store app, on an app preview. Also seen it on Feedly, Android Central, Gallery, etc. Can't figure out what is going on!
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In certain lighting, I see what looks like a dot matrix all over the screen, but from what I've heard, that's normal. Not sure what exactly that is though...
I can see it the clearest when the screen is off. I think it is part of the screen tech, not the resolution, but I could be wrong
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I saw these for the first time today with the screen off in a certain light. They are vertical lines/dots though.
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In certain lighting, I see what looks like a dot matrix all over the screen, but from what I've heard, that's normal. Not sure what exactly that is though...
I can see it the clearest when the screen is off. I think it is part of the screen tech, not the resolution, but I could be wrong
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It is the digitizer. It is what registers your touch
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I saw these for the first time today with the screen off in a certain light. They are vertical lines/dots though.
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Did you ever find a solution to this?
I'm seeing the exact same lines after having a broken screen replaced.
me too, on my recently bought ebay G2 (VS980) - i think screen and digitizer are fine. i think it has something to do with the graphic card or rastering memory as it only happens when there is a high computational demand on display apparently? happened with two separate firmwares - one stock and one non-stock - so clearly it is not a software issue (i guess)
I'm pretty sure it's the screen. I had my screen replaced again and the issue is completely solved.
So after some very confusing moments I just figured out that the Z2 screen is polarized so when holding the phone in landscape for example while taking a picture, you can't see the screen if you are wearing polarized sunglasses.
Here you can see it in a video I made:
http://youtu.be/kSWo7yLdfwU
This is the first time I see this in a smartphone, it's a little bit annoying, anyone knows the reason?, maybe the polarizing filter in the screen of the Z2 is what makes it a little bit dimmer than the competition?
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So after some very confusing moments I just figured out that the Z2 screen is polarized so when holding the phone in landscape for example while taking a picture, you can't see the screen if you are wearing polarized sunglasses.
Here you can see it in a video I made:
http://youtu.be/kSWo7yLdfwU
This is the first time I see this in a smartphone, it's a little bit annoying, anyone knows the reason?, maybe the polarizing filter in the screen of the Z2 is what makes it a little bit dimmer than the competition?
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pretty sure its to make the screen more visible under water... maybe.
edit: just googled, most phones have it now to stop glare from sun. thats it.
I know polarizing glasses stops water glare.. not sure how itd work under water though.
After seeing this first hand today it's a definite deal-breaker for me, as every pair of sunglasses I own are polarized, and I have no intention of changing that. I never had an issue before seeing the screen of my HTC One X & One M7 outside wearing sunglasses & taking photos in any orientation. Since the Z2 I received this week has a gap the size a credit card will fit into on the bottom left & both cameras are very off center I was going the exchange route but after noticing this today, no thanks. It's really a shame, maybe a future Xperia will be better though.
I found a review that mentions this issue on Pocket Lint: http://www.pocket-lint.com/review/128493-sony-xperia-z2-review
FWIW I have read elsewhere that the HTC One M8 shares this same issue too.
It is pretty daft considering most holiday snaps will be taken in landscape with the sunglasses on.
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I guess Sony missed this one. Almost all LCD displays have a polarizing filter, but they are usually set to polarize at 45 degrees compared to sunglasses (or vice versa). You can try this by looking at an LCD display (not the Z2, obviously) or your digital watch through your sunglasses and then turning the glasses slowly.
BTW, my Google Nexus 7 tablet is also polarized at 90 degrees. I can see nothing in landscape view.
But my computer display and even the LCD in my car dash can be seen clearly. Unless I tilt my head 45 degrees.
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It is pretty daft considering most holiday snaps will be taken in landscape with the sunglasses on.
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Exactly! I've hated the camera on my M7 since day 1 and I was excited to finally upgrade to a phone with a high quality camera. Little did I know at the time the Z2 would also be useless on sunny days for taking photos
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I guess Sony missed this one. Almost all LCD displays have a polarizing filter, but they are usually set to polarize at 45 degrees compared to sunglasses (or vice versa). You can try this by looking at an LCD display (not the Z2, obviously) or your digital watch through your sunglasses and then turning the glasses slowly.
BTW, my Google Nexus 7 tablet is also polarized at 90 degrees. I can see nothing in landscape view.
But my computer display and even the LCD in my car dash can be seen clearly. Unless I tilt my head 45 degrees.
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That's pretty interesting, I never really knew how that worked, thanks! I have noticed in some cars I couldn't see the nav screen with my sunglasses on, and I just thought it was a poor quality screen, luckily in my Jeep there's no problem at all though. Now I must find a phone with a legible screen for taking sunny day photos.
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Pitchb3nd said:
So after some very confusing moments I just figured out that the Z2 screen is polarized so when holding the phone in landscape for example while taking a picture, you can't see the screen if you are wearing polarized sunglasses.
Here you can see it in a video I made:
http://youtu.be/kSWo7yLdfwU
This is the first time I see this in a smartphone, it's a little bit annoying, anyone knows the reason?, maybe the polarizing filter in the screen of the Z2 is what makes it a little bit dimmer than the competition?
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i wanna report this;
at first moment of using my XZ2 i tested this But Display was visible in all angles under polarized sunglasses.
compared by Note3 & Nexus5 >>
XZ2 is better than n5
but worse than note3 while wearing polarized sunglasses
i installed normal visible screen protector (comes with ultraFit Spigen Case)
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Then your sunglasses aren't polarized, because the screen definitely is.
If you research LCD technology you will see a polarizing filter is required to make the screen work. If you then have polarizing glasses then you will have this issue. AMOLED technology is superior in this respect because it does not involve the use of polarized light.
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If you research LCD technology you will see a polarizing filter is required to make the screen work. If you then have polarizing glasses then you will have this issue. AMOLED technology is superior in this respect because it does not involve the use of polarized light.
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Oh, this explains why I didn't have such a problem with Galaxy S4!..
Is it really that big of a deal to put your sunglasses on your head for the ten seconds it takes to snap a picture?
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Well my polarised rayban does work with the phone when it's in horizontal orientation. It's just quite dim, but it's not completely dark like the one on YouTube.
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Then your sunglasses aren't polarized, because the screen definitely is.
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i m sure about it cause i tested sunglasses polarization
anyway i got that result and it s good for me
After updating to .323 i don't have this problem anymore.
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beni8978 said:
After updating to .323 i don't have this problem anymore.
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Hahah,maybe it's because i put the screen protector.
But I could watch it in landscape on my rayban polarized sunglasses.
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pauley said:
After seeing this first hand today it's a definite deal-breaker for me, as every pair of sunglasses I own are polarized, and I have no intention of changing that. I never had an issue before seeing the screen of my HTC One X & One M7 outside wearing sunglasses & taking photos in any orientation. Since the Z2 I received this week has a gap the size a credit card will fit into on the bottom left & both cameras are very off center I was going the exchange route but after noticing this today, no thanks. It's really a shame, maybe a future Xperia will be better though.
I found a review that mentions this issue on Pocket Lint: http://www.pocket-lint.com/review/128493-sony-xperia-z2-review
FWIW I have read elsewhere that the HTC One M8 shares this same issue too.
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The flaws you mentioned are present on almost all Z2's, so you aren't going to find one without flaws. Also if you are going to avoid a purchase of a phone strictly because you can't lift your glasses up for 3 seconds to snap a picture once or twice a month, then I wish you luck with your other life endevours lol From what I understand most phones with LCD's have polarized screens, so you may not be able to find one that doesn't have it. The Z2 is a great phone I wouldn't consider anything else.
Z2 is probably polarised for sunlight legibility. My tablet Z is also polarised in the opposite plane.
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Just a quick heads up. Polarized glasses (mine are prescription sunglasses) and the screen don't play well together. Rainbow effects over everything. I know this might not be a new occurrence to AMOLED screens, but just wanted to throw it out there as I just came from the Iphone 6 (IPS display) and I didn't even think to consider if my glasses would have any effect. :good: Just in case anyone else is coming from an LCD type display and didn't know.
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Just a quick heads up. Polarized glasses (mine are prescription sunglasses) and the screen don't play well together. Rainbow effects over everything. I know this might not be a new occurrence to AMOLED screens, but just wanted to throw it out there as I just came from the Iphone 6 (IPS display) and I didn't even think to consider if my glasses would have any effect. :good: Just in case anyone else is coming from an LCD type display and didn't know.
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Yeah it's a general amoled effect/side effect.
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Just a quick heads up. Polarized glasses (mine are prescription sunglasses) and the screen don't play well together. Rainbow effects over everything. I know this might not be a new occurrence to AMOLED screens, but just wanted to throw it out there as I just came from the Iphone 6 (IPS display) and I didn't even think to consider if my glasses would have any effect. :good: Just in case anyone else is coming from an LCD type display and didn't know.
-Matt
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My xperia z3 has that so did htc one m8
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My nexus 5 would look like it's off in portrait. Made taking photos outside difficult. My s6 is just rainbows and I am OK with it. I can at least see what I am doing
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My nexus 5 would look like it's off in portrait. Made taking photos outside difficult. My s6 is just rainbows and I am OK with it. I can at least see what I am doing
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Yup! I should have been more specific: the device is definitely still usable, just wanted to inform people of the rainbow effect. :good:
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With my g2 if I turned it sideways with polarized glasses its black. Its not the type of screen. Its the filter on the screen. And I know the iPhone 5s would rainbow too. I wouldn't know about the 6. I got rid of polarized lenses. Irritating lol
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My nexus 5 would look like it's off in portrait. Made taking photos outside difficult. My s6 is just rainbows and I am OK with it. I can at least see what I am doing
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My Z3 looks "off" in portrait too...kind of annoying. I'm glad the S6 doesn't look "off" in portrait
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My Z3 looks "off" in portrait too...kind of annoying. I'm glad the S6 doesn't look "off" in portrait
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Yep I also had problems with polarised sunglasses looking at my Z3-C.
Pain in the arse really because I wear them while driving (prescription lenses otherwise I use regular glasses) and it makes it impossible.
That being said, it saves me from getting fines
It's better than my old M8, which was completely black in portrait mode while looking through polarized lenses.
Roflwafflez said:
Just a quick heads up. Polarized glasses (mine are prescription sunglasses) and the screen don't play well together. Rainbow effects over everything. I know this might not be a new occurrence to AMOLED screens, but just wanted to throw it out there as I just came from the Iphone 6 (IPS display) and I didn't even think to consider if my glasses would have any effect. :good: Just in case anyone else is coming from an LCD type display and didn't know.
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Funny, I see rainbows and weird colors when looking at my wife's iPhone 6 through my Maui Jims. It depends on what glasses you have as well as what type of polarizer is used for the screen. AMOLED or IPS LCD doesn't matter as they both can have these issues depending on the glasses.
I have a pair of $200 Raybans that don't rainbow on anything really other than the displays on gas pumps