After hearing this news about the new screens coming to the nexus one it got me thinking. Will i be able to purchase an after market nexus one SLCD and install it on my "OLD" Nexus one, if not why?
We probably won't know until someone actually gets their hands on a Nexus with the SLCD and decides to disassemble it to make sure everything is the same to know if it's possible. But screen replacement is always pretty risky so unless you know what you're doing, I wouldn't try it anyways.
To me the question is why would you even want LCD over amoled. Amoled is better. They are only using LCD for lack of supply.
yeah i would never try doing that. i will get someone to do it for me and have them be responsible for any mistakes they make!
yeah i doubt anyone will tare down their N1 unless they break it...
blablum said:
To me the question is why would you even want LCD over amoled. Amoled is better. They are only using LCD for lack of supply.
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well my reason is i like being able to see my screen in the morning while on the bus. Its really about give or take in this situation. Its nice having a really nice screen with the deep blacks at night but at the end of the day i want my screen to be visible with out seeing my reflection while I'm out side..
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well my reason is i like being able to see my screen in the morning while on the bus. Its really about give or take in this situation. Its nice having a really nice screen with the deep blacks at night but at the end of the day i want my screen to be visible with out seeing my reflection while I'm out side..
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You mean you don't want your screen turning into a mirror when you're outside??
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You mean you don't want your screen turning into a mirror when you're outside??
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exactly this guys knows what im talking about!
but if there was a way to kinda provide a type filter on the screen that would help reduce the reflectiveness of the screen and not by Anti Glare, glare is not the problem its mainly reflections
Super-AMOLED displays are AMOLED displays with an integrated touch function..
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well my reason is i like being able to see my screen in the morning while on the bus.
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Ah, ok, that makes more sense. I don't know if it would help at all as I haven't tried miself, but reflected light is mostly polarized, maybe getting light sunglasses with polarized lenses would improve readability?
I just tried that, it doesn't seem to work, what almost sort of worked was putting my sun glasses on the screen and that improved the visibility very considerably. I dont know the UV rating for my glasses but only down side is that my screen a tone darker with the phone set on "auto".
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Its nice having a really nice screen with the deep blacks at night but at the end of the day i want my screen to be visible with out seeing my reflection while I'm outside.
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Well, at the end of the day the night starts, so the AMOLED screen in your N1 will do it just fine!
Lol lol you got me there but can someone have a answer for my filter question ?
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Hi all guys!
Anyone has tested the screen visibility under sunshine?
I have an HTC Touch and it's horrible...
Thanks!
It is visible but I won't say it is terrific. If it is not too good, I just need to tilt it a little and the screen will contrast and brighten.
Its horrible sometimes i think my phone is off..
I can barely make out the time in huge numbers
Actually this is another area that impresses me... I tried this out when I first got the phone and it is very readable/seeable... even in full sunlight I can see the screen... much better than my Kaiser/MDA Vario III
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Actually this is another area that impresses me... I tried this out when I first got the phone and it is very readable/seeable... even in full sunlight I can see the screen... much better than my Kaiser/MDA Vario III
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Seconded.
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Actually this is another area that impresses me... I tried this out when I first got the phone and it is very readable/seeable... even in full sunlight I can see the screen... much better than my Kaiser/MDA Vario III
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What screen settings are you using -- this thread includes responses that range from 0 to 10 and I suspect there are differences in settings. For exampled, have you turned off your screen autodimming feature?
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What screen settings are you using -- this thread includes responses that range from 0 to 10 and I suspect there are differences in settings. For exampled, have you turned off your screen autodimming feature?
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I have left it on the Auto feature... at first I thought my phone had a glitch as the screen kept going dim... but it works really well... I also tried it in full light (by trying to reflect the indoor light to make the screen as obscure as possible, had to be indoors as its raining like a mother here) and even though the screen did become less readable I could still read the book I had in ubook... a plus for me...
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Actually this is another area that impresses me... I tried this out when I first got the phone and it is very readable/seeable... even in full sunlight I can see the screen...
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What he said!
maybe with a nice screen protector you may see something
I have the anti-glare one and I don't expect to see a bright screen in the afternoon
but maybe some screen protectors may help although I doubt it
it is really visible (if I'm not putting my sunglasses on), i was really impressed when i first got the phone. just make sure you set the auto dimming on.
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maybe with a nice screen protector you may see something
I have the anti-glare one and I don't expect to see a bright screen in the afternoon
but maybe some screen protectors may help although I doubt it
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I use martin fields screen protector and its great, so maybe that does have something to it...
uh, did you guys set the backlight to auto adjust? I mean at first I knew to save battery life I had to manually adjust the backlight 2nd to the dimmest. but I coudln't see anything while under direct sun. but somehow, on auto adjust, the backlight seem to work under it. I think the device has light sensor.
Hi,
I've watched numerous videos of this phone, and it looks as though the screen on the HD2 is quite reflective, has anyone had an issue with this?
Cheers
When using it in sunlight, you can see yourself. If you don't mind seeing yourself or what's behind you, then it doesn't cause a problem. Just think "any other mobile phone screen". Nearly all phone screens are glossy when off, it just dpeends on how bright you set the backlight. Set your current phone's backlight down a tad and you'll probably get the same effect. Then you can decide if it worries you.
You can also get screen protectors that are polarizing and reduce glare ......
ardsar said:
You can also get screen protectors that are polarizing and reduce glare ......
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Got a link ?
I have only seen 4 galaxy tab 7.7's so far and I noticed all 4 of them really have bad white levels as compared to my galaxy note, disabled the auto power saving and there is a difference in white levels but its still not even close to the galaxy note at the same brightness level. Even at brightness 25% on the note the vs 100% on the tab 7.7shows 'dimmer'whites. This is not a rant but I'm just asking if the screens are calibrated that way or should I keep looking?
Also I noticed that the mdine engine oon the tab provides oversharpening to a lot of my photos and its so obvious and makes the images look bd, supercurio has the same findings.
It is a pretty big screen so it may be they limited the brightnes to save battery power. While the claim is that OLED takes less power than LCD that is not always true. When displaying white, OLED tech uses like 4X as much power as LCD. The power saving comes in when displaying images with medium to darker colors.
What is the "mdine engine"? Is this something that can be bypassed by using a different picture viewing app?
It is amazing how Samsung seems to always add some crappy image "enhancement" like DnIE or such crap. Why can't they just leave our images alone, as we meant them to be? It is freakin' OLED man. You don't need any contrast or sharpness enhancement you knuckleheads! OLED by nature is sharp and has great contrast! Duh!
I don't know. My 7.7 is super bright, sharp and with way warmer colors than my Note.
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It is a pretty big screen so it may be they limited the brightnes to save battery power. While the claim is that OLED takes less power than LCD that is not always true. When displaying white, OLED tech uses like 4X as much power as LCD. The power saving comes in when displaying images with medium to darker colors.
What is the "mdine engine"? Is this something that can be bypassed by using a different picture viewing app?
It is amazing how Samsung seems to always add some crappy image "enhancement" like DnIE or such crap. Why can't they just leave our images alone, as we meant them to be? It is freakin' OLED man. You don't need any contrast or sharpness enhancement you knuckleheads! OLED by nature is sharp and has great contrast! Duh!
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I'm thinking the samr thing that samsung might ne limiting how bright the whites can go duebto the screen size but based on what I've seen on samoleds some screens juat put out better white levels, not really brighter but whiter.
For the mdine its running system wide.
clubtech said:
I don't know. My 7.7 is super bright, sharp and with way warmer colors than my Note.
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The samoled plus tends to have more warmer colors than the samoled, is the whites on your tab 7.7 'whiter' than on the note at the same brightness level?
EarlZ said:
For the mdine its running system wide.
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Is there a way to shut it off or bypass it somehow?
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Is there a way to shut it off or bypass it somehow?
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Yes I believe so, Supercurio knows more about that stuff.
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simulated example done in photoshop, anyone with the tab7.7 and better photoshop skills feel free to redo this simulated image
Perhaps one of the other reason that the 7.7's screen isn't quite as bright, apart from the obvious power saving reasons, is an effort to possibly reduce the OLED degradation (burn-in) effect.
Either way, although I certainly noticed out of the box that my 7.7 wasn't as bright as my Note (or even my GS2 for that matter!), I was never really bothered by it because (especially when you use movie mode) the colour reproduction is very accurate, and paired up with the contrast levels, it's still fantastic!
I guess, to me, white doesn't necessarily mean I need to put on a pair of sunglasses while looking at my screen lol!
I just wanted to know if the norm has lower white levels, what bothers me more is added sharpening on some images.
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I just wanted to know if the norm has lower white levels, what bothers me more is added sharpening on some images.
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Have you tried using the movie mode? Settings => Screen => Mode
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Have you tried using the movie mode? Settings => Screen => Mode
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I havent but id imagine thats gonna give a yellowish cast on the entire screen. I didnt get the tab yet as the store units I tried had very obvious screen problems. Gonna wait for a the next batch to arrive.
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I havent but id imagine thats gonna give a yellowish cast on the entire screen. I didnt get the tab yet as the store units I tried had very obvious screen problems. Gonna wait for a the next batch to arrive.
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Yellowish? Not at all! At least not with my unit anyway. Sure it makes the screen generally warmer in colour, but IMO, more than anything, it makes the colours look more accurate and natural.
Give it a try! You never know until you do...
Black Levels.. now White Levels, you are a very picky person EarlZ...
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Black Levels.. now White Levels, you are a very picky person EarlZ...
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Since when was it wrong to ask for more product information on what is the norm, if you've got nothing to contribute stay away instead of starting a flamebait.
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Yellowish? Not at all! At least not with my unit anyway. Sure it makes the screen generally warmer in colour, but IMO, more than anything, it makes the colours look more accurate and natural.
Give it a try! You never know until you do...
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Well ever since the Galaxy S changing the color mode to movie mode gives a yellowish cast, this is probably dependent on the calibration on the screen we get in the first place. I saw a friend's Tab7.7 the other day and his white levels were really brighter than my Galaxy Note. FWIW, its still a luck of the draw when it comes to color calibration on the screen. But thanks for that tip, when I'll purchase the Tab I'll make sure to also check out movie mode and see if it hits my requirements.
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Since when was it wrong to ask for more product information on what is the norm, if you've got nothing to contribute stay away instead of starting a flamebait.
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it was a friendly comment kababayan, you got it wrong
i have mine set to vibrant... rather like it like that.
it's just a shame it's SOOOO darn bright!
i cant use it t night!
even with screenfilter and other apps... no worky on amoled
FernandoMiguel said:
i have mine set to vibrant... rather like it like that.
it's just a shame it's SOOOO darn bright!
i cant use it t night!
even with screenfilter and other apps... no worky on amoled
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Very bright noticed the same with the Note ,
Nexus was somewhat easier on the eyes at night,
But probably like you I like a very dim screen at night.
When the brightness is turned all the way down on the 7.7,
is any banding or other issues seen like many report on the Note?
Blacks are black I'm sure but how are greys that are near black.
On the Nexus they were fine, but on the Notes I seen they could have been darker?
if any of you have a digital camera and white galaxy note, can you please post a picture of plain white display (via LCD Test *#0*#) in low brightness. Please let me know. thank you all in advance.
Here you go. Hopefully the file attaches (I think it may be too large).
Oh, it looks like it may have downsized it. Let me know if you need more detail.
Is that dirt or a dead pixels on that image?
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Must have been specs of dust. I checked just now and they're not there.
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Is that dirt or a dead pixels on that image?
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I bet you almost gave him a heart attack
LordManhattan said:
I bet you almost gave him a heart attack
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hahahahahaha
Thanks a lot! Do you have a screen protector applied on top of that? I see something that looks like mura lines. I'm sure those are not mura lines but the way the camera was focused on the screen. Also that display brightness was set to the lowest, right?
It would be great to see more users contribute to this thread. I'm making a tally to convince myself to buy a White note. My black note was serviced several times due to screen issues, and am getting a refund. Not letting go of the note just yet.
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Here you go. Hopefully the file attaches (I think it may be too large).
Oh, it looks like it may have downsized it. Let me know if you need more detail.
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don't know if my eyes are playing me, I do see a couple of horizontal lines, I don't know if that is due to the screen protector or the angle the picture was taken from, don't wanna scare you, but I am hoping that the next wave of batches have a better production like the S2.
The witch hunt continues
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Always Positive...
However, you can definitely appreciate the fact that the White Note has a better display than the Black. Horizontal lines or not, they definitely display less on the White compared to the Black. Hope to see more pictures soon!
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Thanks a lot! Do you have a screen protector applied on top of that? I see something that looks like mura lines. I'm sure those are not mura lines but the way the camera was focused on the screen. Also that display brightness was set to the lowest, right?
It would be great to see more users contribute to this thread. I'm making a tally to convince myself to buy a White note. My black note was serviced several times due to screen issues, and am getting a refund. Not letting go of the note just yet.
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No screen protector. And yes, I set the brightness all the way down before I took that photo.
I think if you're seeing a moire pattern it may be because of the difference in resolution between the reduced-resolution image and your monitor. I'm looking at the original photo in Photoshop and when I zoom in and out I see changing moire patterns at certain zoom levels, but don't notice anything when I look at it zoomed in at 100%, or even at 50%. And of course I don't see any moire pattern when looking at the phone itself.
Oh, and the brighter area in the lower left of the photo is my hand's reflection.
I do, however, see faint horizontal (vertical in this photo) banding on the screen when looking at the phone. I couldn't say whether it's any better or worse than the black/carbon blue version, as I've never seen one. I'd describe the banding as very faint, but visible if you're looking hard for it. And when looking at a blank white screen like this, I also have a general sense that not every part of the screen is quite the same level of brightness. Again, not major, but noticeable when looking at a solid white screen.
You'd need to reduce the brightness further with Screen Adjuster from the market. The basic brightness setting at 0% is probably only at 50% of what the screen is actually at. So you can go much dimmer to reveal the manufacturing process.
Learn to live with it. The marks don't affect the functionality of the screen. While I have noticeable marks on the bottom right half of the corner and vertical streaks, I don't let it deter me from enjoying this elegant piece of tech!
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However, you can definitely appreciate the fact that the White Note has a better display than the Black. Horizontal lines or not, they definitely display less on the White compared to the Black. Hope to see more pictures soon!
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That is bollocks My new white 32 GB Note has a much worse display than my former two blue 16 GB. Think I gonna send it back so that the white has a better display is pure dreams
I just ordered my white note today. Looking forward to it arriving on my doorstep tomorrow!
guys make sure to turnoff AUTO ADJUST SCREEN POWER in display options.
i have black unit and i done lcd test on low brightness.no lines or anything.
if you have to download app to lower brightness even more to see defect.then something is wrong with u.because ur looking for reasons to find some kind of defect.everything is not perfect.if u cant see it on normal use,then its good piece.
Hey guys, can someone else with the samsung note 4 exynos model try their phone in direct sunlight on auto brightness and tell me if the screen kicks into a super bright mode with high contrast and strange colours? You have to be in direct sunlight with auto brightness turned up. I'm getting paranoid about this and not sure whether to swap mine. I know samsung have just added assertive displays to the exynos models and possibly now snapdragon but not sure if this is whats going on.. it almost makes some colours look fluro.
Yes it does, it is normal.
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Yes it does, it is normal.
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Hope they get rid of this feature soon then.. it triggers so easily.
And it looks terrible, thought my screen had broke first time it did it.
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And it looks terrible, thought my screen had broke first time it did it.
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Glad im not the only one then.. do your colours kind of go fluro?
Hmm just took my samsung tab s outside in bright light and it did the same must just be much more pronounced on the qhd display
At first I didn't like it, comes it makes the phone look all weird, but after a while I've really come to like it, especially when driving, I've reliazed, never once was it hard to view the display. Which IMO is awesome! I've never had a smartphone I could always accurately see the screen, in every type of light
I do outdoor hiking and I use the phone for navigation and taking photos. You do have to set the auto brightness to On for it to boost the screen brightness but it triggers after u turn on the phone screen instead if consistently. Battery is not an issue because I carry spare batteries
Anyway to keep the screen on at its Max brightness consistently? II don't care about color distortions either as long as I can see things!
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Hope they get rid of this feature soon then.. it triggers so easily.
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I hope they don't, I want to be able to see my screen under sunlight.
Maybe tweak the levels a bit so that it doesn't activate until absolutely necessary, but removing it completely? Why? So people can start threads about how they can't see their screen outdoors?
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this is a great feature, why should they remove it? if people fine it annoying , just untick the auto brigtness job done
im looking for method how make super brightness constantly... but no luck... anybode know how? using stock rooted mm