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Xoom sales figures are bad? Think again

Xoom sales numbers are tagged at 100k units. This numbers was generated by a Deutsche Bank analyst in early April. The number was reached by looking at the platform distribution number posted at the Android Developer website. According to Android Developer platform breakdown, March 15 - March 31 saw 0.2% of all devices accessing the Android Market app using honeycomb. Deutsche Bank guessed at 50 million android devices in the wild, and 0.2% of that number = 100k.
So let's check the veracity of this analysis.
Point 1: does anyone know how many android devices are actually being used on a daily basis? I've searched for but cannot find any concrete figure. Is 50 million correct? Who knows...it could be 75 million or it could be 25 mllion.
Point 2: wi-fi xoom went on sale March 27, and it sold better than the 3g. The UK, European, and Canadian 3g and wi-fi units were released in late march-early april timeframe. The data Deutsche Bank used to reach 100k did not include the lions share of the US wi-fi xoom sales, nor did it include the majority of non-US sales.
Point 3: sales numbers are a hot, important topic now because many investment analysts are motivated by MMI Q1 reporting, due on April 28. Don't think for a second that a bank analyst can be trusted. If Deutsche Bank wants to take a large position in MMI, it is silly to report solid sales and positively affect MMI's stock price. The "prudent" but unethical thing to do is create a reason for the stock price to drop, and then take a large position at the bottom value directly before earnings are reported.
Happens all the time. And don't think for a second that companies don't use sites like xda to spread FUD. Any user here should be considered "suspect" unless the user is a proven, bona-fide account and not a shill for an entity looking to profit from guerilla tactics.
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I'm not buying into the guesstimates provided by financial/investment firms. Especially if you don't know the firms motives, perhaps they trade Apple stock all day long..
It's all speculation until (if) Motorola releases hard numbers and the fact is, as competition comes out the price will likely be confirmed or drop slightly. Either way, buyers holding out for something will jump in and the tablet market will move.

250,000 units sold. Told ya!

I dunno about sales figures, but the first weekend it was out in Canada, I went to 4 best buys and 2 future shops in town to pick up a portfolio case.
in all 6 stores, the xoom section was BARREN. Nothing left. No xoom, no chargers, no cases, no screen protectors. In 3 cases I asked and the guy said they even sold the demos.....

androidlurker said:
250,000 units sold. Told ya!
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250K shipped, not sold.

who really cares about sales figures ...as long as your happy with your purchase

crxtasi said:
who really cares about sales figures ...as long as your happy with your purchase
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almostinsane said:
250K shipped, not sold.
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Yes sold. Motorola is not a consigment manufacturer. Which means when they ship, its because they sold the units.
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Unless you are a shareholder it doesn't really matter. The xoom is a great piece of hardware regardless of its lifetime sales totals

crxtasi said:
who really cares about sales figures ...as long as your happy with your purchase
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Now if only they will provide us with the update so the SD card slot will work!. I hear the needed updates wont be ours untill late summer.

almostinsane said:
250K shipped, not sold.
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Somebody paid for the 250k that are sitting on store shelves/warehouses.
The supply chain pays for the goods, after they are shipped Moto could careless where they actually reside.

so to get the actual figures of how many are in consumer hands they'd have to poll every retail chain?

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so to get the actual figures of how many are in consumer hands they'd have to poll every retail chain?
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Doubt it.
The device surely has a "phone home" or "check in" of some kind and Moto can tell how many have been turned on and connected. Likely the same way that the device checks for updates. Also, Google probably has a pretty good idea of how many there are out there, the device is linked to your account, so I assume that they also track a device ID/type.
Given it is possible there are a small handful of the devices out there that don't have a market account on them, or have never been put on line (VERY small handful), but the number is probably so small it wouldn't skew the numbers.

The reason why sales numbers are important to me - I am a shareholder and I have clients that are shareholders because of my recommendation to buy mmi.
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androidlurker said:
The reason why sales numbers are important to me - I am a shareholder and I have clients that are shareholders because of my recommendation to buy mmi.
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Wow, you recommend people buy MMI? How about RIMM too?

Yeah. They are clearly pissed at the 8% gain the stock made today. The only rimm recommendation I make is to buy puts. Or wait till it is in the low teens and buy it before it is acquired for its patent portfolio.
I also recommended armh and nvda last summer.
Yeah I have a lot of angry clients.
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Well ARMH is a great long hold. So is QCOM.

nubsors said:
Yes sold. Motorola is not a consigment manufacturer. Which means when they ship, its because they sold the units.
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In relation to this thread and its reasoning shipped figures are not relevant

Microsoft Office 2013 Professional Plus - $10

Normally, I'd explain this fully, but I'm just going to post a link to slick deals here instead. If one of the staff members frowns upon that, then sorry in advance.
Microsoft Office 2013 Professional Plus - $10 (regular price $500)
EDITS:
As a side note here, this is 100% at your own risk. Some others have made comments about the possibility of MS revoking the licenses and leaving you high and dry. On the flip side, this is the exact same code from 2010 when the exact same thing happened. They didn't fix it then, and I doubt they're going to fix it now. If you need reassurance, I can assure you that every single one of the 2010 Office licenses I bought three years ago still work perfectly fine. So there you have both sides. It's up to you. This is a good deal, but no one is twisting your arm.
Worst case scenario is they pull your license. If that happens, dispute the charge with your credit card company and show proof of payment to get your refund. If you're thinking of buying 100 licenses to resell them at $500 a piece, think again. They average $20 on eBay.
Also, don't think for a second that you're cheating some company somewhere out of millions of dollars in license fees. The company codes are for bulk volume licensing. It's basically a perk of the partnership with MS, so they aren't paying the other share of your discount. Just FYI, as many people were complaining about this in the slick deals thread.

I can confirm that, I bought one code for $10 and work fine. I don't care if deactivate my key. anyway thank you.

Any benefits if 2013 over 2010? Other than metro mode
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Doesn't work for me.

the code was taken down, can someone who knows it pm or post it plz
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motrinHD said:
the code was taken down, can someone who knows it pm or post it plz
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It's still found in multiple places in the SD thread. do a search in there, or read through the pages until you come across it.

motrinHD said:
the code was taken down, can someone who knows it pm or post it plz
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DC2C9125AD
you are lucky. the code was in my clipboard. I did copy early today
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Just tried it and got this
We are sorry, but we are unable to complete your request.
The following problem(s) exist:
Please contact your benefit administrator to learn if you are eligible and to retrieve your program code.
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Current users be happy with your Mic! Nokia is about to stop sales of One!

http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/22/nokia-preliminary-injunction-against-htc-one-mic/
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Wow, you started a thread just to post a link? Nice.

Red5 said:
Wow, you started a thread just to post a link? And in the DEV SECTION?!?!
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Dev sec? Pretty sure I posted in general.
Had your medication yet?
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the ban is only in the Netherlands for now, meanwhile HTC will seek another supplier
but yes those mics are gold

townay said:
Dev sec? Pretty sure I posted in general.
Had your medication yet?
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there is lots of people here who think they are the owners of the website... is becoming really annoying ..... you can open as much threads as you want to, if he doesnt like it,he doesnt have to comment or reply ...... Thanks for the info btw

bummer about the mic situation. all i have to say is the current mic records audio quite well. i put it to the test to record some video footage with high spl levels at a race over the weekend and it did very well. zero distortion/clipping with good range. hopefully if a replacement is needed, it's at least as good as the existing mic.

pwr2wh8 said:
bummer about the mic situation. all i have to say is the current mic records audio quite well. i put it to the test to record some video footage with high spl levels at a race over the weekend and it did very well. zero distortion/clipping with good range. hopefully if a replacement is needed, it's at least as good as the existing mic.
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Exactly. HTC did a better job with these drivers than nokia did. Nokias recordings were too soft, as though its been through too much compression
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hamdir said:
the ban is only in the Netherlands for now, meanwhile HTC will seek another supplier
but yes those mics are gold
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Apologies for the cross-post, but I can't bear to let inaccurate information stand.
If you check the original post on Reuters (which I think may have been updated recently) you'll find this ban is global, it's not restricted to the Netherlands.
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[Nokia] said the injunction was effective until March 2014 and would prevent ST Micro from selling the components to Taiwan's HTC globally.
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This is so sad for us who haven't ordered our phones yet...:crying:

Shasarak said:
Apologies for the cross-post, but I can't bear to let inaccurate information stand.
If you check the original post on Reuters (which I think may have been updated recently) you'll find this ban is global, it's not restricted to the Netherlands.
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its ban on supplies so it will affect the One stocks, but its not golbal ban on the units already made
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check this...
Nokia's co-developed high-amplitude mics retain 10-month exclusivity, HTC has to look elsewhere
Nokia's injunction yesterday has now been made a little more concrete. The Amsterdam district court has apparently handing down a 10-month ban on STMicroelectronics selling its high-amplitude mics to anyone other than the Finnish phone maker. The same dual-membrane microphone is used in both the Lumia 720 and the HTC One, but Nokia (which co-developed and designed the component) had signed a 12-month exclusivity deal with the chipmaker -- a deal that STMicroelectronics apparently though was only six months long.
According to All About Phones NL, the ruling won't halt sales of One devices, with the court stating that HTC was "blameless" and that it couldn't have know about the contract between Nokia and STMicroelectronics. In short, you'll still be able to buy HTC's flagship in the Netherlands with those dual high-amp mics in tow. We've reached out to HTC and Nokia for comment, but it's shaping up to be another supply woe for HTC's new smartphone.
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here is HTC response from this article (translated)
"Although HTC limited party to this issue we regret the decision. Currently, we are in agreement with STM and look at whether it is necessary to look for alternative solutions. Meanwhile, we do not expect that this decision has a direct impact on the sale of our phones. "
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Hah! Early early adopters FTW. :good:

They usually order in big numbers well in advance. The question now is how many they got in advance to be able to supply current HTC ONE orders... If they already received 500K of them or so we should still be good for now.

Grrr, dammit. Still waiting on my order from 9th April...pleeeeeeeease please please let it be an unmodified model, as HTC intended...
Feel bad for HTC, they just keep taking hits when they should be able to just enjoy the success of designing a really great Android phone. Here's hoping it doesn't affect them too adversely - it would be such a shame to have one less competitor in the smartphone race.

desiregeek said:
They usually order in big numbers well in advance. The question now is how many they got in advance to be able to supply current HTC ONE orders... If they already received 500K of them or so we should still be good for now.
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It is more than that. Now that they know the chip is the intellectual property of Nokia, I think they may be legally liable if they continue to manufacture the One with that chip. They can ship what they have, but I think they will have to replace that chip before they manufacture any more of them - anywhere, for any market. For them to use the chip in new construction, I think they are opening themselves to lawsuits from Nokia.
I'm not a lawyer, much less an international lawyer, but this makes sense to me. They will ship what they have, but will need to change the design before they build more.

If you read into the story quite deeply, ban is in Netherlands at the moment, will not go further, It will eventually be allowed in Netherlands again, HTC Is not at fault here, They do not have to find a new supplier, the supplier has to change the part slightly, Nokia went a little over the top to be hinest, Its a MIC! Not like they copied the Whole design of the Lumia and software now is it!

dobknobby said:
If you read into the story quite deeply, ban is in Netherlands at the moment, will not go further, It will eventually be allowed in Netherlands again, HTC Is not at fault here, They do not have to find a new supplier, the supplier has to change the part slightly, Nokia went a little over the top to be hinest, Its a MIC! Not like they copied the Whole design of the Lumia and software now is it!
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The court's decision prevents the microphone from being sold to anyone else other than Nokia, he said. "This has immediate effect and is global in scope, not just in the Netherlands," Young said via email. STMicroelectronics is headquartered in Geneva, but its holding company is registered in Amsterdam.​http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...phones_for_HTC_One?taxonomyId=15&pageNumber=1
Nokia does hold a U.S. patent on the microphone which the Netherlands court said doesn't apply in the EU. So expect Nokia to seek an immediate injunction against the sale of the One (because it houses a patent offending component) in the U.S. shortly.
A claim for 'recall' of microphones already delivered however rejected because Nokia itself (in Europe) can not rely on a patent, which is currently only granted in the United States.​

BarryH_GEG said:
The court's decision prevents the microphone from being sold to anyone else other than Nokia, he said. "This has immediate effect and is global in scope, not just in the Netherlands," Young said via email. STMicroelectronics is headquartered in Geneva, but its holding company is registered in Amsterdam.​http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...phones_for_HTC_One?taxonomyId=15&pageNumber=1
Nokia does hold a U.S. patent on the microphone which the Netherlands court said doesn't apply in the EU. So expect Nokia to seek an immediate injunction against the sale of the One (because it houses a patent offending component) in the U.S. shortly.
A claim for 'recall' of microphones already delivered however rejected because Nokia itself (in Europe) can not rely on a patent, which is currently only granted in the United States.​
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Thanks, that is my reading as well. I really do think they are going to have to halt production until the new part is supplied.

I'd be more than willing to compensate the lose of dual membrane mic for a 6Ultrapixel camera Or a microsd slot

This is making my decision tougher. I have a online order on back order (after t mobile effed up my original order) mainly because I want the car dock. However it is delayed further will I get this mic which has clearly improved audio recording quality or a new mic which may not be so good?
So then do I get it from retail store tomorrow which more than likely has this mic but no car dock with it?
It would have all been so much simpler if the original order wasn't cancelled by tmobile.

Pr20 said:
This is making my decision tougher. I have a online order on back order (after t mobile effed up my original order) mainly because I want the car dock. However it is delayed further will I get this mic which has clearly improved audio recording quality or a new mic which may not be so good?
So then do I get it from retail store tomorrow which more than likely has this mic but no car dock with it?
It would have all been so much simpler if the original order wasn't cancelled by tmobile.
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HTC's target output is 2MM a month. They ran 500K in March and will hit 1.5MM this month and expect to hit full production in May. The mic is on the daughter board which is a major assembly component so I'd imagine they'd have no less than two weeks’ worth and no more than six weeks’ worth which is the typical stock on hand rate for an important component. So that means they'd be able to build 1MM to 3MM more One's before they run out of components. During that time they'd obviously be working on getting a "Plan B" implemented. It took them about four weeks to get the Wi-Fi h/w fix in place for the One X last year so I wouldn't expect the mic replacement to be done any faster. So whether there are stock shortages all depends on how many daughter boards HTC has on hand and if they can implement a new mic in less time than it takes for them to deplete their existing parts with the offending mic on it.
The biggest issue for the U.S. is the potential for an import ban and/or stop-sale. Unlike the EU, Nokia has a patent on the mic here in the U.S. A patent violation is handled by the ITC not the civil courts like an exclusivity violation would be. The ITC are the ones that issued a ban on the One X last year when Apple filed a complaint about the "app-picker" s/w. And unlike civil court, how the patent violating part came to be imported or used is irrelevant so HTC won't be held "blameless" like they were in the EU. The offending part will be banned and it's unfortunate that it's attached to an HTC phone.

HTC One sold/shipped 5 million times in a month?

After reading all the bad news yesterday about HTC (people leaving the company, articles about a "future without HTC", etc): I opened my dutch news app this morning when drinking my coffee and saw this:
http://www.nu.nl/gadgets/3481460/htc-one-vijf-miljoen-keer-verkocht.html
I expected to see an article about the Galaxy S4 being sold 10m times in the first month, but this nice dutch website preffered to focus on what HTC has done. Apparently, HTC has sold 5 million One's in "one month". So it has done 50% of what Samsung has done in the last month. And I guess that doesn't include what HTC has sold in March/April.
The weird thing is, I always read my twitter feed first. I have not seen a single report about this anywhere on Twitter. On the other side, NU.nl is a big and serious website here in the Netherlands.
What do you guys think? I am very happy to see this and it's far above my expectations. If this is true, HTC is not dying anytime soon!

Doesn't seem likely, as they had major production issues until late April.

I'm happy for them and hope they'll get through the rough time they are atm so they can continue making amazing phones!

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Doesn't seem likely, as they had major production issues until late April.
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its reported by the wall street journal quoting an official HTC exec (wsj needs subscription)
the news was just posted by Android Authority
so i would believe it
demanding outstripping supply, why is this so hard to believe?

you missed the fact which stated that it's most likely orders done by the shops and carriers, not to customers themselves. meaning they aren´t real sales yet
However, I do hope they all sell in the end anyway though. HTC deserves this, and beyond this as well. at the end of this month, which means soon enough, their capacity to create Ones will double from the amount right now. (if not already)

hamdir said:
its reported by the wall street journal quoting an official HTC exec (wsj needs subscription)
the news was just posted by Android Authority
so i would believe it
demanding outstripping supply, why is this so hard to believe?
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High demand with nothing to sell is still not a sale though, unless they are also including unfulfilled orders by their carrier partners and local stores~~ The phone has been launched in my country a whole month ago, and not a single store has more than 1 unit for sale at a time, with some stores getting 5 units per 3 days (that's on the high end) >.>
Making my 1-to-1 change for a faulty NFC chip all the more painful, as I'll have to wait 1-2 weeks for HTC to bring in stock ):

Cbxu said:
you missed the fact which stated that it's most likely orders done by the shops and carriers, not to customers themselves. meaning they aren´t real sales yet
However, I do hope they all sell in the end anyway though. HTC deserves this, and beyond this as well. at the end of this month, which means soon enough, their capacity to create Ones will double from the amount right now. (if not already)
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I didn't miss it, though I forgot to mention it in the first post. I'm not sure about the 10m from Samsung either, are those sold or orders done by shops/carriers?
Either way, I was expecting this exact message but with a 1 instead of the 5 million. Even if it's just orders done by carriers/shops, it's far above my expectations!
And it's good HTC are doubling their production, it's indeed awfull they often have 1-2 units per store also in the Netherlands.

I think samsung is aiming the same, 10 million orders but not all of them sold; they're still in storage of retailers / carriers.
Also when i went for accessory shopping, I was told everytime that they didn't have any since they got such few phones (1 - 5 maybe a day). saying it was not worth it yet buying accessories for such a scarce phone. it affects a whole deal.

5 million since launch, not just the last month:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/23/4358378/htc-one-5-million-smartphone-sales
Very respectable number to be honest, sure Samsung has double that in less time but people wanted another S3 and well, thats basically what they got.
Learned people got the One and now word of how good it is, is spreading.
But HTC, why did you release the HTC First? /sigh

5 million Seems like a stretch actually... Supply is still a serious issue..... The unlocked versions in US have been in backorder status for the entire month.... HTC ONE launch has been delayed by over 1 month in most Asia countries....
If they are counting confirmed orders then 5 million may be accurate... But it's highly unlikely that 5 million have been sold already....
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amazing to see htc do so well after all the production delays!
i think this is the first time im hearing them declare how much they sold.
go htc go!!! brilliant stuff

When executives start BS'ing you know your company has issues.

mnshzz said:
If they are counting confirmed orders then 5 million may be accurate... But it's highly unlikely that 5 million have been sold already....
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Well Samsung counts confirmed orders, and brags about those numbers. HTC would likely want to do the same in this case.
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i think if supplies are enough,it will surpass S4 sales.here in riyadh,One were sold out in two days in all carriers/online stores here..and we are not so lucky to get one..they told us stocks will be avail in 2 to 7 days ..just sayin

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And how do you know they're BS'ing? Do you have your own sources within HTC, or are you just pulling stuff from the place where the sun don't shine?

For Samsung or HTC or any other vendor the important part is shipping them. They don't care if the units are sold to end users, warehouse or aliens. The sales figures are important and they start when they exit the production storage facility. From business point of view the numbers are quite accurate. 150+ operators all around the globe importing the phones, add also independent companies, import export business, BestBuy or Media Markt type of electronics mall bla bla bla.
Samsung, LG, HTC, Apple... They all trade stocks so sales figures are important. Especially when quarterly earning reports behind the doors. Once they sign an agreement, let's say with Vodafone, for 1,000,0000 units worldwide, that goes as 1,000,000 units sold to Vodafone in sales figures. When the end users get it is not their concern.
Well, probably not so many units in reality. Never seen a "One" besides on Champions League game )
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HTC One is selling good in Turkey aswell. I saw many people who doesn't even know HTC but after seeing review unit they are amazed by quality.

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For Samsung or HTC or any other vendor the important part is shipping them. They don't care if the units are sold to end users, warehouse or aliens. The sales figures are important and they start when they exit the production storage facility. From business point of view the numbers are quite accurate. 150+ operators all around the globe importing the phones, add also independent companies, import export business, BestBuy or Media Markt type of electronics mall bla bla bla.
Samsung, LG, HTC, Apple... They all trade stocks so sales figures are important. Especially when quarterly earning reports behind the doors. Once they sign an agreement, let's say with Vodafone, for 1,000,0000 units worldwide, that goes as 1,000,000 units sold to Vodafone in sales figures. When the end users get it is not their concern.
Well, probably not so many units in reality. Never seen a "One" besides on Champions League game )
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Exactly. HTC sells to the carriers so those are their sales numbers. They have already made their money.The carriers and other suppliers sell to us, and their numbers reflect that.

ataft said:
Well Samsung counts confirmed orders, and brags about those numbers. HTC would likely want to do the same in this case.
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Samsung and the general industry counts what they have pushed through to their sales channels... That number may or may not sell but that is what gets reported... Which is why at times manufacturers take a hit on unsold inventory at a later point....remember blackberry tab?
It's possible that HTC managed to send 5 million devices through their sales channels as the article suggests... but looking at the acute supply issues that still exist this means that there are approx 5 million devices out in the wild in the hands of customers..... That appears unlikely as apart from UK and US its really not available easily anywhere....
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bnbasarir said:
For Samsung or HTC or any other vendor the important part is shipping them. They don't care if the units are sold to end users, warehouse or aliens. The sales figures are important and they start when they exit the production storage facility. From business point of view the numbers are quite accurate. 150+ operators all around the globe importing the phones, add also independent companies, import export business, BestBuy or Media Markt type of electronics mall bla bla bla.
Samsung, LG, HTC, Apple... They all trade stocks so sales figures are important. Especially when quarterly earning reports behind the doors. Once they sign an agreement, let's say with Vodafone, for 1,000,0000 units worldwide, that goes as 1,000,000 units sold to Vodafone in sales figures. When the end users get it is not their concern.
Well, probably not so many units in reality. Never seen a "One" besides on Champions League game )
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You are completely right. I would add thought that more of those 5 million units are in consumers hands then the 10 million from Samsung. HTC is pushing this phone out fast. Last one I got was made 6 days before it came into my hands. I would imagine there is a decent stockpile of S4 in some places where I do not think that is true of the ONE.
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Samsung and the general industry counts what they have pushed through to their sales channels... That number may or may not sell but that is what gets reported... Which is why at times manufacturers take a hit on unsold inventory at a later point....remember blackberry tab?
It's possible that HTC managed to send 5 million devices through their sales channels as the article suggests... but looking at the acute supply issues that still exist this means that there are approx 5 million devices out in the wild in the hands of customers..... That appears unlikely as apart from UK and US its really not available easily anywhere....
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So then where are these units. What warehouse are they hiding in? Why did some guy pay $800 on ebay for my ONE? No one has stock of the HTC ONE. There is no surplus anywhere that I have heard. I have only heard their are not enough to go around.

Really bad HTC customer service experience

Broke the screen of my HTC One Developer Edition bought from letstalk. Sent in back to HTC USA and they charged me $300 to replace it. Although the price is high, I decide to accept it (As far as I remember, the cost of a S4 is less that $250)
What's worse, I never get any updates from them for two weeks. After I called, I was told that I have to wait for a month!
I will never try HTC again.

jinrf said:
Broke the screen of my HTC ONE. They charged me $300 to replace it.
What's worse, I never get any updates for two weeks. After I called, I was told that I have to wait for a month!
I will never try HTC again.
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Where did you get your phone from? In many countries phones are brought in by an official distributor, and they handle all warranty related issues (as well as repairs). They may have regional HTC offices, but they are mostly admin branches. So maybe you should direct your rage to whoever it is you bought your phone from.

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Where did you get your phone from? In many countries phones are brought in by an official distributor, and they handle all warranty related issues (as well as repairs). They may have regional HTC offices, but they are mostly admin branches. So maybe you should direct your rage to whoever it is you bought your phone from.
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I bought my HTC ONE developer edition from Let's talk.com, US. I sent the device back to HTC USA factory. So I guess it's not a distributor issue.

HTC told me it would take them 2 days to fix my phone after receiving it (this was when I broke my One X).

ataft said:
HTC told me it would take them 2 days to fix my phone after receiving it (this was when I broke my One X).
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I was told the similar thing... please keep me posted

Just curious. Why would you buy it from let's talk.com ?
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Piaband said:
Just curious. Why would you buy it from let's talk.com ?
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because they sell the unlocked and developer edition at msrp price than ebay?
Or sole retailer for it..

Just to clarify, if you buy a phone from HTC art htc.com, letstalk handles order processing and fulfillment. So the "reason " I bought my phone from letstalk is: I didn't. I don't know who they are and I don't care. I bought my phone from HTC.
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Piaband said:
Just curious. Why would you buy it from let's talk.com ?
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because only HTC sells developer edition, and letstalk handles all the orders from HTC.

jinrf said:
Broke the screen of my HTC One Developer Edition bought from letstalk. Sent in back to HTC USA and they charged me $300 to replace it. Although the price is high, I decide to accept it (As far as I remember, the cost of a S4 is less that $250)
What's worse, I never get any updates from them for two weeks. After I called, I was told that I have to wait for a month!
I will never try HTC again.
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Are you a student? do you work for Samsung?

dahmmy said:
Are you a student? do you work for Samsung?
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This is my real experience!

Do note htc online store is not handled by htc but negotiated out to a separate company in this case letstalk whos customer service is terrible and really the entire company is bad from order processing to customer service. If you have an issue call htc main headquarters or file a better business complaint against htc to their Washington headquarters. I had an issue and they resolved it alot better and quicker than letstalk customer service ever would.
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