What will be the best version to buy, i9500 or i9505? I am talking about modding and custom roms like sammy based and aosp. Which will have the best contribution/support from this community?
i500 = better cpu. i505 better gpu.
i500 is appearing to have better battery life, HOWEVER this could be due to different/ more intensive tests being ran on the different phones. Each reviewer runs their phones through different tests, so it's hard to say as I don't think a test model for both variants has been sent to a single reviewer.
i505 is looking to have better XDA support as it will be more widely available.
IDK, let me check the other 100 or so threads about this and I'll get back to you.
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POLL: I9500 OR I9505, What will you buy?
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I do not know what to buy, On the one hand Google spends official Android to I9505.
But then again maybe it's better to buy the I9500 ?
Google will release a Official Android for all I9505 devices? Or just devices purchased from Google?
Please Help!!! I do not know what to buy: (
kobi_shalom said:
I do not know what to buy, On the one hand Google spends official Android to I9505.
But then again maybe it's better to buy the I9500 ?
Google will release a Official Android for all I9505 devices? Or just devices purchased from Google?
Please Help!!! I do not know what to buy: (
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see if u have 4g in ur country go with the i9505 it has 4g and better battery lifetime
but if u dont have 4g u cud go with the i9500
see the i9500 has an unoticeable better preformance (difference of tinybits)
but also has better gpu even if old
i bought tje i9505 because i think its better than i9500 but thats just my opinion dnt go using abusive language because i said that
qazmed said:
see if u have 4g in ur country go with the i9505 it has 4g and better battery lifetime
but if u dont have 4g u cud go with the i9500
see the i9500 has an unoticeable better preformance (difference of tinybits)
but also has better gpu even if old
i bought tje i9505 because i think its better than i9500 but thats just my opinion dnt go using abusive language because i said that
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As far as I know both devices have LTE
And I use the Hebrew language, but I have no problem with English I just need the Hebrew keyboard
I want to know if you will be able to install the I9505 (which Google bought) their official Android
kobi_shalom said:
As far as I know both devices have LTE
And I use the Hebrew language, but I have no problem with English I just need the Hebrew keyboard
I want to know if you will be able to install the I9505 (which Google bought) their official Android
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Google version of s4 isnt out yet idk maube som3ine will goodluck
qazmed said:
Google version of s4 isnt out yet idk maube som3ine will goodluck
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Google version of s4 will release a Official Android on 26 june...no???
Maybe but i dnt think u will get their version of android but surely good old devs are here to port it dnt be afraid go with the i9505 blindly its best
Pros for 9505: many roms including aosp and better community support, GPU with OpenGL 3.0, LTE, same hardware as google edition
Cons for 9505: about 10% less CPU power
Pros for 9500: about 10% more CPU power
Cons for 9500: no AOSP at least for now, worse dev community support, older GPU, no LTE (LTE version of 9500 is only in Korea), flawed CPU
No one knows if You will be able to flash google rom directly, but most probably it will be at least easily portable to 9505. For me the choice is very easy.
slig said:
Pros for 9505: many roms including aosp and better community support, GPU with OpenGL 3.0, LTE, same hardware as google edition
Cons for 9505: about 10% less CPU power
Pros for 9500: about 10% more CPU power
Cons for 9500: no AOSP at least for now, worse dev community support, older GPU, no LTE (LTE version of 9500 is only in Korea), flawed CPU
No one knows if You will be able to flash google rom directly, but most probably it will be at least easily portable to 9505. For me the choice is very easy.
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I buy the I9505 or I9500 from Korea...
kobi_shalom said:
I buy the I9505 or I9500 from Korea...
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You're buying S4 from korea?
Anyway, get i9505 as it has much more development support and has 4g.
slig said:
Pros for 9505: many roms including aosp and better community support, GPU with OpenGL 3.0, LTE, same hardware as google edition
Cons for 9505: about 10% less CPU power
Pros for 9500: about 10% more CPU power
Cons for 9500: no AOSP at least for now, worse dev community support, older GPU, no LTE (LTE version of 9500 is only in Korea), flawed CPU
No one knows if You will be able to flash google rom directly, but most probably it will be at least easily portable to 9505. For me the choice is very easy.
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So the Gpu is better on the I9505 even though it's weaker?
Which one will show better performance in the future on heavy games (I know that at the moment, no game is a challenge for any one of them...).
gabi11 said:
So the Gpu is better on the I9505 even though it's weaker?
Which one will show better performance in the future on heavy games (I know that at the moment, no game is a challenge for any one of them...).
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See the gpu in i9500 has higher mhz but it isnt noticeable as no games are that high but for the future the i9500 has no support for glse 3.0 unlike the i9505 which does so u choose
samsung made this a controversy so that both devices sell
so....I9505 ? Or I9500?
iPhone 5 definitely :good: :good:
kobi_shalom said:
so....I9505 ? Or I9500?
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Youve been given the details and pros/cons ...can you not make your own decision? Why are you asking people to choose for you
i9505
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a box of kittens said:
Youve been given the details and pros/cons ...can you not make your own decision? Why are you asking people to choose for you
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I consult....In any case I'm still not close what I want to buy I do not know what more to either pay = \
Id like to find out if there are any custom roms for the G900H or if there is anyone that has one that will be customizing the stock rom etc... Kinda sad that there is no one yet Is it because of the CPU???
Tim34 said:
Id like to find out if there are any custom roms for the G900H or if there is anyone that has one that will be customizing the stock rom etc... Kinda sad that there is no one yet Is it because of the CPU???
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I am also interested in knowing the answer to this question.. infact the s4 exynos has got the custom roms so will this device follow suit?
Dunno.
Seems people are even less interested this time.
S4 had AndreiLux for custom kernels.
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drakester09 said:
Dunno.
Seems people are even less interested this time.
S4 had AndreiLux for custom kernels.
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I dont believe that the reason is people not interested. I think its matter of time. First,this is the newest version, and also, the most difficult built with 8 different cores.
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I dont believe that the reason is people not interested. I think its matter of time. First,this is the newest version, and also, the most difficult built with 8 different cores.
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Number of cores are completely irrelevant to the difficulty of building a kernel for Exynos. It's all about knowing the platform, the capabilities and what you can and cannot do. Which comes with experience...
It's just a matter that Samsung drove away all developers from Exynos. We used to have really talented devs on this side (Entropy512, Codeworkx, among others), but the lack of support from Samsung and lack of sources for Exynos burned them out.
S4 had AndreiLux, who is an excellent dev with tons of knowledge.
N3 has halaszk, which has done a great job and also brought back features from S4's perseus to the N3.
Don't really expect much for this device. It's not a matter of time, N900 (Note 3 Exynos) doesn't has an AOSP rom and it has been several months now.
I will likely build something when I get time, I frankly want to improve a couple of small things and increase GPU clocks to offset for the lower performance compared to the Adreno 330... but it will take a while, thanks to halaszk's work, I know where to poke.
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Number of cores are completely irrelevant to the difficulty of building a kernel for Exynos. It's all about knowing the platform, the capabilities and what you can and cannot do. Which comes with experience...
It's just a matter that Samsung drove away all developers from Exynos. We used to have really talented devs on this side (Entropy512, Codeworkx, among others), but the lack of support from Samsung and lack of sources for Exynos burned them out.
S4 had AndreiLux, who is an excellent dev with tons of knowledge.
N3 has halaszk, which has done a great job and also brought back features from S4's perseus to the N3.
Don't really expect much for this device. It's not a matter of time, N900 (Note 3 Exynos) doesn't has an AOSP rom and it has been several months now.
I will likely build something when I get time, I frankly want to improve a couple of small things and increase GPU clocks to offset for the lower performance compared to the Adreno 330... but it will take a while, thanks to halaszk's work, I know where to poke.
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Will you only build a kernel or a complete rom?? I just so want stock looking custom rom hahahah
Hey,
I am sure this has been discussed many times here but i just want to know if i have a choice to buy either of these versions which one should i go for if i want to install custom roms? I mean devs release more custom rom's for the exynos version correct?
Thanks
There has always tended to be more developers releasing customs roms for the snapdragon version. The general consensus that if one wants to use customs roms and kernels etc then the best choice would be to go for the snapdragon version. Again there are developers who release exynos custom roms and kernels so don't think it will be the end to modding you note 4 if you go for the exynos version.
I am in the same situation and had a snapdragon note 4 but just felt it was laggy maybe i am finding this more of a problem due to being a iPhone user for years. I won't go to why i have not taken to the iPhone 6/plus lol.
The exynos version has been winning benchmarks over the snapdragon but what made me ultimately go for the exynos version was that it beat the iPhone 6 plus in a head to head that is incredible in my books. Choice is yours......
huseinraj said:
Hey,
I am sure this has been discussed many times here but i just want to know if i have a choice to buy either of these versions which one should i go for if i want to install custom roms? I mean devs release more custom rom's for the exynos version correct?
Thanks
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please use the search functionto find your answers as this has been asked many times and there is a long thread with questions and answers like this
tl;dr: ^ See topic text. ( I guess I would not have LTE here with that, but that's not a big issue at all. Coverage is horrible in Hungary anyway. )
A few shops* sell the 910C here as well, not just the F version.
Now I know that the Exynos version is faster, more power efficient.
And I guess all official updates will also reach this variant faster or pretty much with the same speed.
On the other hand, we have the Snapdragon, which got much more custom roms and section on XDA.
(Honestly it feels so weird that the 1.9ghz A57 can beat the S805 clocked at 2.7ghz in single-thread....)
Anyway. Personally, I used the S3, S4, Note 2, S4 Mini, Motorola phones... and every time I installed Cyanogenmod or other CM/AOSP-variant roms, it was riddled with bugs.
Don't get me wrong, the Note 2 have the DN4 Rom which is basically a Note 4 rom ported, and it's great. It's stable, it's got a few quirks, but it works.
But from that, it doesn't seem to be a good deal to trade speed, and power just for more roms. (Let alone Knox which I don't want to trip.)
Sooo... I would be pretty fine with the Exynos version.
But can I use it here?
* = all gsm shops are shady in the country, that's why I'm super-cautious.
Use Exynos in Hungary
If you mean just using it as a normal phone I don't see why not.
The type of processor will have no influence on the normal use of the phone. (as in calling, texting internet and email and such)
If you would want to root it and start working with custom ROMs it might not e the best idea. Most open source development is on the Snapdragon variant.
The AOSP ROMs have come a long way over the last couple of years. I experience hardly any bugs with the bigger devellopment teams.
All the best, Willem
Thank you! Well, I know the difference is tiny, but you cannot install roms and stuff without tripping KNOX anyway. It will be a business phone so I would like to keep my warranty.
Not sure if allowed, but please, excuse my bump.
I would like to order the phone as soon as possible.
So far I'm convinced that the Exynos will be fine for me.
But the main question remains. Can I use it in this country?
I tried to look up the chipset, the phone, everything - but there is just no information on what frequencies does it support / etc.
So I had a wild idea. Screenshot the box at unboxing on Youtube, so I can check.
Then I used this:
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
That says it should work. What do you guys think?
Hello!
I am about to buy a Samsung Galaxy S4, but I have 2 options. For 190€ a normal i9505 (Black Mist) and 215€ for a black edition i9506 (the leather one).
They are both 16GB version so the only difference between them is the model no. and obviously the processor.
Considering the price difference and the hardware, I would buy the i9506 without a doubt! But... there's XDA and development...
I'm not here for that long to be able to tell if the i9506 gets about the same love as the i9505... Performance wise, how they compare to each other?
I want to be able to unlock the bootloader, install recovery, be a flashaholic like I am with my current Galaxy Nexus. I don't need to have like thousands of roms avaiable but I wanted at least the major ones (like CM, Omni, AOSP) to be avaiable and work without a problem. Do I still have that in the i9506? I'm seriously needing help with this, which one should I buy considering this community and kernel+rom avaiability?
diogofd8 said:
Hello!
I am about to buy a Samsung Galaxy S4, but I have 2 options. For 190€ a normal i9505 (Black Mist) and 215€ for a black edition i9506 (the leather one).
They are both 16GB version so the only difference between them is the model no. and obviously the processor.
Considering the price difference and the hardware, I would buy the i9506 without a doubt! But... there's XDA and development...
I'm not here for that long to be able to tell if the i9506 gets about the same love as the i9505... Performance wise, how they compare to each other?
I want to be able to unlock the bootloader, install recovery, be a flashaholic like I am with my current Galaxy Nexus. I don't need to have like thousands of roms avaiable but I wanted at least the major ones (like CM, Omni, AOSP) to be avaiable and work without a problem. Do I still have that in the i9506? I'm seriously needing help with this, which one should I buy considering this community and kernel+rom avaiability?
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I also had to face this decision. I eventually chose for the 9506 version. On one side because of the major speed difference. But that's something you already know.
It's true that the 9505 version has more support and more roms available. It will probably last longer in terms of "custom support". But the 9506 doesn't fall behind in these terms. It has less roms, but there still are a few good ones. Also lot of new rom threads are opening, who knows where they will be in a few months. The support of the 9506 is at least better then a few other flagships released than and now.
Besides, if you purely like customization and already have an optimized rom, xposed will give you a lot and only needs root (which will always be there).
For me the choice was easy.